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I wish we could have a gritty Star Wars series
...where the struggle between the Rebels and the Empire was more about people...
...and less about explosions, and zany aliens...
Don't you like Star Wars Artwork?
It would be great to see stormtroopers represented as elite infantry, not clumsy cannon fodder...
...and be reminded that they are human beings as well as soldiers...
...and that they have suffered mightily as the Empire consolidated power.
What would it be like to follow the story of a conscript?
Would a poor kid, conscripted into the imperial army, have ever been to orbit?
...let alone set foot on exotic worlds?
Maybe some of them really believe in what the Empire is doing?
Maybe some of them just want to go home?
Some of the Rebel soldiers are still true blue heroes....
..but there could be charismatic leaders who are basically terrorists....
...using propaganda just like the Galactic Empire....
...in an attempt to depose the emperor and write themselves into galactic history.
(like Tom Zarek from Battelstar Galactica)
...they prey on the ideals of soldiers...
...who believe that the Galactic Empire is a monocultural oppressive regime which must be overthrown...
...and maybe the ends too often justify the means...
The Galactic Empire has worlds that are highly industrialized and densely populated, like Coruscant...
...but there are also worlds that are barren and lawless, like Tatooine...
...suggesting a huge disproportion of wealth and resources between developed and undeveloped worlds throughout the empire.
The Rebel soldiers would basically be defectors from the imperial underclass...
...but many Rebel soldiers wouldn't fully appreciate the legacy of the Old Republic they are trying to restore...
...and that by eliminating the emperor, galactic power will only transfer from a dictator to hundreds of wealthy senators...
One character of the series could be a kid from the Imperial homeworld, Coruscant, who had received a formal education. S/he joins up with the Rebels because they're sympathetic to the Rebel Alliance's mission to build a multicultural senate that represents the galactic community...
Can anyone else imagine having something like this in Star Wars Battlefront?
...but their dissolutionment upon discovering the unspoken motivations of corrupt and self-aggrandizing Rebel leaders would be a way to examine the hypocrisy of the Rebel Alliance...
Another character could be a poor kid who witnessed the invasion of their homeworld and the indiscriminate slaughter of its inhabitants...
...we see the brutality of the Empire's campaign through the pain of a character who has lost their home, culture, and identity...
...and we can understand why some of the rebel soldiers are merciless and pragmatic, and think that actions akin to terrorism are completely justified.
How about instead of giant space battles
the Rebels realize early on that they're vastly outnumbered...
...and the only way they can succeed, is to lure the Empire into a brutal war of attrition?
The massive resource-intensive mission to destroy the Death Star could be an against-all-odds assault at the end of the 1st season.
where the Empire has forced the Alliance's hand by locating the secret base on Yavin 4.
...imagine if the Rebel assault on the Death Star was a last ditch effort, and it failed, the Yavin base gets destroyed, and a bunch of characters die Game of Thrones style?
Wouldn't that be awesome?
We could also see the graft, violence, and vice in Mos Eisley...
...and how far the Empire's reach extends into government of remote worlds like Tatooine....
A less hapless C-3PO could make droid espionage pretty cool.
Maybe we could see how the politics of Mos Eisley as an administrative center, affects the moisture farmers in terms of political representation, taxes, civil rights...
...this would set the table for us to really appreciate a new character in the following season:
the badass nephew of a moisture farmer from a backwater planet whose uncanny pilot skills turn him into a war hero and a symbol of hope for the Rebels. Maybe kind of like a Star Wars version of Shepard from Mass Effect.
His affair with the Alderaanian Princess leading the Rebel Alliance could provide some political intrigue.
Oh yeah, the Jedi.
Taking down a Star Destroyer like a boss.
Thank you for reading!
Instead of a cat, here's Jar Jar getting punched by a stormtrooper.
Sorry if this artwork has been posted before, I hadn't seen it so I thought I'd make an album.
ROBOT120807
Read the Star Wars: Empire comic series. Shows empire soldiers as characters rather than drones.
BeeR411
ExDeuce
The 23rd one down is actually Halo art, not Star Wars.
theroguex
You mean this one?
(much easier than making people count)
CapitalAsshole
Hey! JJ! Come check this shit out man...
Dan8975
Fuck JJ-Abe he ruined too many good things already.
AMFMAN
yeah seriously, about time something like this is made
rocketsurgeonmaster
A good one to read is Death Star by Micheal Reaves. Its not exactly that, but is pretty damn good, actually.
soilworkker11
totally agree. i loved that book. it was way better than i thought it would be
LinkWieldsTheTriforceOfCourage
Billions or even trillions of Galactic credits have gone into the development of Tatooine going back to the beginning of the Old Republic.
LinkWieldsTheTriforceOfCourage
The sand and Sand People reclaim all the settlements every few thousand years only to have criminals or a megacorp try again.
Jupitermynx
my favorite zany alien
yunogivemename
cant wait for battlefront 3.
iwantaspaceship
Is Battlefront like this??
yunogivemename
not as gritty as depicted by your post. but i love to play the part of a foot soldier in battlefront 2. Plus frostbite engine :)
oculusrift
I am writing a fan fic that has many of the qualities you describe
pearljam23
Your sauce please? readers want to read!
Potatoslicer
I'd really like to see that!
SierraKomodo
Happen to have a fanfiction.net you're posting it to? Would love to see it
iwantaspaceship
likewise!
keanr
What if the scriptwriters are releasing episode VII's plot through imgur....
AncalagontheBlack
I like the idea, but part of the Star Wars magic is how idealistic and morally simple everything is. Making it gritty takes that away.
iwantaspaceship
True! I guess I feel like Star Wars has been that way for awhile, it could be refreshing to see a more mature take. Maybe it wouldn't fit.
dravenport
play republic commando
chefboyardeeee
such a great game! wish it was longer, or had a follow up. Hopefully Disney allows them to make a gritty sequel
BigDaddysMeatWagon
that's what I thought through all of this. I also play Star Wars d20. You can make it as gritty as you want.
thinkingbird
I played WEG Star Wars D6 for yeaaaaarrrsssss. These pics reminded me why I was so into it
TheRubberWolf
Oh... gosh, people like this game? It was awful.
dravenport
are you saying that you think all people feel the same way about all things?
TheRubberWolf
... No? I'm surprised people like it because it's not well designed, has boring gameplay and not very much variety in any of the audio.
Sudhirthelegend
read it!
Voojagig
I would be all for a gritty reboot.
darearkin
You know, considering all they've done to the series, I'd LOVE to see this done.
iwantaspaceship
Me too! Not all the commenters agree, but I think the gritty miniseries format would be a nice way to deliver the story. I could be wrong.
DarthVadersBigBluePenguin
And there could be a reality tv show about how people catch things in the Dagobah system.
TeenGirlSquad
Asteroid Monsters with Jeremy Wade!
ArcaneTechnomancer
Star Wars was pretty "Gritty" back in the day in terms of Sci-Fi. Most people though the sci-fi was supposed to be shiny and clean.
iwantaspaceship
Wow, thanks for this comment. I had no idea! I saw it as a kid, so I thought it was always directed at a young audience.
ArcaneTechnomancer
Yeah. Star Wars was one of the first depictions of non-utopian space-fairing civilizations. Space-western wasn't really a thing back then.
onlymemesnow
Ninth one down animated:
badmojoe
"It's important to celebrate life's victories."
bbirbb
Looks great, but maybe slow the smoke down a bit so it "drifts" rather than "flows" away?
ihavetotypeallthiscrapeverytimeiloginfromwork
For some reason, this really reminds me of this pic: http://www.zur-kogge.com/Kogge-Ambiente/Bilder-Ko-Ambiente/4-letzte-Mann.jpg
Gladymir
fcking awesome
Mcflyvol
TIL Star Wars is like Vietnam
KuzcosLlama
They started this series, and called it Firefly.
nightswatchman
I was going to reply with the same thing. Well done, take my +1
JasonForge
Take my love, take my land, take me where I cannot stand~
melodramaticbat
Yeah! But more stuff from the alliance perspective would be cool. But then more of anything Firefly would be cool :-(
Svenpa
I'm late, and I only have one upvote... =(
iwantaspaceship
I'm happy you're here :)
AnExplanation
Why do you have to drop feel-bombs like that!?
kitkatkelly
My thoughts exactly! Firefly4lyfe
Rafestation
Why this hasn't been made is just because it has actually already been made in the form of other shows..
PilotOfTheCaribbean
ehhhh? The Original trilogy is not gritty? I'm too old for this shit
gnosti
You should just read Dune.
GeneralSystemsVehicle
This is awesome. I think this one (
) is Halo though, looks like Forerunner architecture.
AxelRoberts
the warthog drop ship gave it away
Partyprime
It says Ensemble studios in the corner, they made Halo Wars so you're probably right.
Thaumogenesis
STAR WARS BATTLEFRONT Y'ALL
ohsnapp44
Still play on the ps2, and almost losing sleep waiting for next year
FatLobyte
Yeah, the story was actually pretty nice!
thegr8rambino
best game ever dude
HailHailFreedonia
Long live the empire! Death to rebel scum!
ImgurMontoya
The Confederacy of Independent Systems will reign supreme.
idontevenknowwhatiamdoinghere
all of my feels
AntSantarelli
When you take a massive shit
thewandererofwoods
Listening to the Braveheart theme music while seeing this picture made it even cooler.
thetain
liek this if u cri evretim
M0MUS
"We had The Gallery to see if you had souls at all."
M0MUS
This is the finest piece of Star Wars artwork I have ever seen.
NERDGASMM
http://imgur.com/X4EQg4h
theedjofglory
That stormtrooper just can't even anymore.
Orruner
But can they odd?
QuadrilateralEnix
they're just clones, tho
AsleepByDay
They don't act like clones in the original series. Deffo a retcon there
EnigmaNL
How do clones act?
andthentheresthatguy
Empire Stromtroopers are not clones
InfiniteSynapse
"Why can't I hit anything?"
FatLobyte
We've been over this. The Meme is dead. Plz stop.
InfiniteSynapse
Where's the memo?
FatLobyte
There you go: https://imgur.com/w5MHii8
InfiniteSynapse
Oh wow that was an interesting read.
Comet260
DISNEY! PLEASE, DON'T KID THINGS UP! There are ADULT fans of SW, you know!
theroguex
Technically speaking, even the youngest of the original Star Wars fans have been adults for 15-20 years now.
mrlemonofbanana
There's nothing to "kid up", since Star Wars always was "kiddy".
Comet260
Uhhh...Episode III was NOT that kiddy. Esp since it got a PG-13 rating. Did you forget the slaughter of the younglings?
ImperialNeptune
Adult fans can enjoy (well written) children's material. Not so much the other way around. It all comes down to good writing.
FatLobyte
I believe that if the author doesn't have to write for children, he has so many more possibilities like sexuality, and violence. I don't
FatLobyte
say that I need to see severed heads and corpses with blaster holes, but some themes are just too dark and heavy for children. Like in GoT.
ImperialNeptune
I don't think Star Wars NEEDS to explore sexuality and violence. Plenty of other fantasy and sci-fi media already covers that.
steampossum
"Don't kid things up" for a film series that, in 40 years, has never gone above a PG-13 rating. There are Disney films darker than Star Wars
thebarnet
Just remember Disney own Marvel
ThisIsTheWayVod
The problem is the movies are geared towards young teens yet the background story aka extended universe is geared towards adults
HighrockTendales
The fuck you talking about. I guarantee you got into SW as a kid which is why you love it now.
theillustrativeman
Star Wars has always been PG, and intended for young teens - this will likely continue. Disney is a master of preserving IPs - it makes >>
theillustrativeman
>> them money to do so.
LooWeeWoot
Puh-lease. George Lucas Jar-Jarred Star Wars....what do you really think DISNEY is gonna do?
TytusHamilton
From what I've seen of Rebels it's gonna be pretty kiddy :/
Comet260
I got that impression too. Don't know why you are being downvoted.
Kinderschlager
i...i bloody need this, someone please make this happen. so much untapped potential
Bangledesh
Being "vastly outnumbered" and "war of attrition" don't go together.
iwantaspaceship
I was imagining an al-Qaeda style war of attrition, not like WWI, if that makes more sense :) +1
Bangledesh
That's guerrilla warfare, small hit and run attacks by a smaller force upon a larger force. Attrition is "slugging it out"/last man standing
Bangledesh
Guerrilla tries to preserve your numbers, whereas attrition is more like "We each have 100,000 men; see who has one guy left at the end."
iwantaspaceship
True! But of course it can also refer to attrition of materiel and resources, and that's what I was referring to.
iwantaspaceship
By al-Queda I really meant Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. It's an unconventional form of victory by attrition. Sorry if that wasn't very clear :(
Bangledesh
But no worries, war is war.
Bangledesh
"We have 1000 tanks and they have 1000 tanks, lets see who has one left." The Rebels have ~5 ships and the Imperials have a galaxy of stuff.
samsonguy920
Actually that is one reason to love the X-Wing series of games, because it does show the rebellion being stuck in a battle of attrition..>
pgdave
The problem is that a war of attrition favors the larger army - the empire would win handily. I know what OP means, but it's not "attrition"
upvotingstarwars
guerrilla and espionage. almost any of the books could be made into a series, what OP lists off could be like 8 series, focus on less each.
KalleSchnikov
Alliance might still be one of my all time favs.
RedClatter
I bought that game in a bargain bin in the 90s, still love plasying over again. totally deserves a reboot
DHR107
All 3 deserve HD remakes... I practically grew up playing Tie Fighter...
PaintedSlate
Aw man, I missed X-Wing itself, but TIE-Fighter was inspiring.
samsonguy920
X-Wing is fun. Imperial Pursuit was the low point, then B-Wing happened. Joygasm.
PaintedSlate
How is it I've never heard of Imperial Pursuit OR B-Wing??
samsonguy920
They are expansions to X-Wing. But that is a good question. How is it you haven't?
Himser
I cant find them anyware. i have like 3 copy's of Tie |Fighter just because i dont wanna lose access to that game ever tho.
ghrammyboy
Games were awesome, Rogue Squadron books even more so.
Ty1lerDurden
I'd love to see a Rogue Squadron based TV series.
sildraug
I could see either Rogue or Wraith doing very well.
Ty1lerDurden
I forgot about Wraith. That would be a hilarious series; they had some real crazy characters. Yub, Yub Commander.
sildraug
I also think the action sequences might be better for a show in Wraith, since they get a bit more variety with the commando stuff.
samsonguy920
2> except for the critical battles, such as winning over critical allies and dealing with major threats, such as the Death Star. ..>
samsonguy920
3> X-Wing Alliance really brings out the personal aspect of a family caught between the two sides, and the split that does occur.
ImInBetweenUsernames
I LOVED this game.
eggmuffin
This game was magical. It transported me, mind and soul, into that universe. I remember it fondly.
samsonguy920
Admit it, you giggled like a little boy flying a Corellian Freighter. PUNCH IT!
Kemi337
That was one of my favorite games growing up.
Ashboomstick
Me too. I just found out the other day that there's a way to run it with updated ship skins on a Win 7 system. It is simply awesome.
Kemi337
YOU MUST LINK ME... FOR SCIENCE.
Ashboomstick
1/1 unfortunately IT at work blocks game sites, but it's the first link (moddb.com//etc.etc.etc.) on a google search for
Ashboomstick
how to run xwing alliance on win 7
KaulumaKai
They've done this OP, they're called books.
Skrillybrick
I laughed really hard when I read this! Nice work.
jackalsblood
READ THE BOOKS!! They are absolutely worth it!!!
simpleton318
Which books?
Meleemailman
And yet everyone hates the books :(
lordblood123
Though honestly i like that aspect for it's suppossed to be a age of heroes with numerous jedi coming to the fro.
WhatAmISupposedToWriteHere
Heathens.
lordblood123
Sadly some people are mega purists believing anything that isn't the original trilogy isn't star wars.
Meleemailman
realized that people thought it was a bad thing.
Meleemailman
It's kinda funny, I grew up with my parent's basement full of the books and it wasn't until I got heavily into the internet that I...
lordblood123
To be sorta fair they hate the new jedi order for having too many op jedi in it like Corran Horn, Kyp Durron, the Solo twins, etc
dmra
There's always been a delicate balance between just right and too much Jedi. SW Galaxies. New Jedi Order. Give me Courtship or Thrawn anyday
lordblood123
Fate and legacy of the jedi were fucking perfect though
patking13
When I saw "Star Wars" and "gritty" I thought of 1313, and then got sad because it was cancelled.
MrPredator
This is why I don't hope for anything. That way, when something gets cancelled, there's no hopes to be dashed.
USD1
I'd always wanted a Band of Brothers style series following the Rogue/Wraith Squadron book series.
ISleptWithSomeoneFromImgurAndAllIGotWasThisStupidUsername
DON'T REMIND ME!!!!!!!!!!!! a million gamer voices cried out and then silence.
hankthepigeon570
THIS.
MaxBlue1988
exactly what i was thinking of when i read this...
LoudAngryJerk
*whispers softly* the studio behind 1313 has been slowly building again, about 2/3 of the people theyre reacquiring are people on the...
patking13
Well that's something!
LoudAngryJerk
*whispers sarcastically* shh, dont tell anyone...
AllHighAustin
Maybe not canceled?
MauricioGuaura
If it makes you feel better, it was developed by modern Lucasarts, developers of the mediocre The Force Unleashed...
LoudAngryJerk
...but it aint nothin, so do with that information what you will.
gunnexx
Which is exactly why OP's suggestion will never happen :(
LoudAngryJerk
...have been seen wearing shirts whose sleeves read "Fett13" and then in smaller letters under that "2016"
minihorsesss
Amy Henning creative director of Naughty Dog left to join EA games with the Visceral Games (Dead Space) to work on a Star Wars game.
thunderr999
Well, if EA is working on it, then say hello Origin. Not going to buy.
Supuhfuzz
So youre not gonna buy the new Battlefront either just because EA's a scummy company? Your loss.
LoudAngryJerk
its not an announcement, and it doesnt mean that theyre building the same game, or even that theyre going to finish the old one...
LoudAngryJerk
...original team. And a few of the people working at this studio (though its a different building now, and there isnt yet a name for it)...
skookysnax
Im pretty sure its still a thing. Its website is up and running, and there are hints that it will be featured at E3.
YoullBePerfectWhenYoureDead
It's not a thing. Pretty much confirmed to be dead at this point.
skookysnax
Fuckin disney
skookysnax
Just found out the sad truth :(
ajizzle
damn I just looked it up, people complain about Lucas but I think disney is capable of fucking Star Wars up far more than he ever did
ButterfaceTaintClown
All JJ has to do is not put Jar Jar in the film and he's already won. But even the fact that his name is JJ (1)
ButterfaceTaintClown
Gives me sleepless nights... (2)
simpleton318
I am from the future. They did fuck it up more than Lucas.
ajizzle
I guess that makes me a prophet
simpleton318
It does.. it does
iLynux
I highly doubt that. Have you SEEN the prequels?
ajizzle
other than jar jar the only complaints that people have are minor ones that would arise no matter what Lucas did
gimo101
This is completely untrue, the dialogue, plot lines, acting and overall direction were all terrible.
iLynux
Like horrible directing and the worst casting choice in the history of cinema?
RoryBlack
If you want a gritty star wars game, give republic commando a try. It is one of the grittier ones and is surprisingly fun
kaiserdas19
All aboard the feels ship to feels speed.
Xykonaut
A million times yes. This is still one of my favorite games to date.
patking13
I've heard it's really great, now I'm seriously tempted to get it. If only my unplayed Steam list wasn't a mile long.
Himser
Or Star Wars Tie Fighter.. Its pretty gritty of you believe 1993 graphics can be gritty.. still best game ever made IMO.
kenj08
republic commando really gave a new perspective on the stormtroopers before order 66
EvisTheCreator
Great game, all my feels.
GALL0WSHUM0R
And has a great book series based on it
desertnewt
i read every book in the series because of this comment. so yea yolo?
GALL0WSHUM0R
Totally worth it, amirite?
desertnewt
100% but pissed the last book was canceled.
Sciamachy
Sev ;_;
bud467
Dude I read the books before playing RC. It was like fucking PTSD at that part.
Im still sad
ZeroNumerous
Deltas never leave one of our own behind.
ChefHannibal
hang in there. Its not dead yet.
simpleton318
I am from the future. It's dead :*(
MC182
I was behind 1313 until Lucas insisted it be about Boba Fett. Boba Fett is cool and all but I was looking forward to a complete new BH
joshyjosh
no. boba fett needs his backstory!
sildraug
I... I liked Dengar...
SpitlessLlamaa
Even though I like BF, I was miffed at 1313 being about his 'origins'. I was hoping for a 'new' Dash Rendar
OneOfUsOneOfUs
If Lucas "had known Fett would be so popular, I would have made his death more exciting." Now he tries to make up by putting him everywhere.
Comet260
Yeah. I was excited about 1313 too, then I found out it was to be about Boba Fett. I want NEW, ORIGINAL characters.
JediMasterKitFisto
Even with episodes 1-3 Geprge just keeps trying to shove old crap down our throats... im scared for 7-9 but hopeful
ItsCryptaChronaKonaLight
Yeah. I was pumped about 1313, then heard the main character was Boba Fett. Can we get something new? (We can keep this going)
FallenJester
I was enamored that 1313 existed, but when I discovered that the focus was Boba Fett, I was all; nah, who want that scrub? Gimme sumtin new.
britishdilettantejimmyrustlerbutmostlyokguy
1313 = cool. Boba Fett = bad. New and original = good.
ReLeVaNtUSERNAMESareReLeVaNT
Fucking Disney... I want my M-rated Star Wars game
JustSomeComments
I fucking hate what Disney is doing to STW... Fuck disney and lucas for selling his creation
thejadefalcon
Except LucasArts wasn't in any position to make a decent game. The studio was a complete mess. Disney can only do better.
CaptainQuarkk
Seriously. I would play that game so hard...
ragingcuppcakes
I had faith in Disney but after they just make me sad even though I love them
Sciamachy
Idea for 1313 was canned before the Fisney sale. I'm more worried about Battlefront becoming Star Wars: Battlefield 5.
JaimeLannistersPenis
That.....doesn't actually sound that bad. As long as it's not a broken mess like BF4.
kaiserdas19
...omg
Aodhian
1) Amy Henig (the game director of the Uncharted series) has just joined Visceral (creators of Dead Space) to make a Star Wars game.
iwantaspaceship
I'm so excited to hear this is a thing!
Aodhian
2) Here's hoping the final product will tick the 'M-Rated' box. Personally I'm hoping for a free-roaming, multi-planet game based around
Aodhian
3) smugglers and bounty hunters. Mos Eisley, Nar Shaddaa and The Works on Coruscant would be great locales (if they all still 'exist').
vauhtihirmu
Excellent news, thanks! The Legacy of Kain series certainly gives us hope that the game will be darker than the usual Star Wars titles :)
LokiKingOfJotunheim
I just got a huge nerd boner hoping this comes to life! Would be nice if they would revive 1313 too!
AreYouAwareThatYouAreACat
They say it will be revealed at E3.
ReLeVaNtUSERNAMESareReLeVaNT
Yeah but all new star wars games will be related to the new movies/lore also made by EA. 1313 was a entirely Lucas Arts production
LokiKingOfJotunheim
Could you imagine a Galaxies style MMO (or even Defiance style) based during the Yuuzhan Vong war? Especially if the new movies are as well!
AreYouAwareThatYouAreACat
I have to say I do miss Republic Commando. That game was so awesome, and the ending......shit......
MindOfMobius
SEVVVVVVVV!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ReLeVaNtUSERNAMESareReLeVaNT
Loved Republic Commando it needed a sequel (books don't count) especially since it was a cliffhanger
ROBOT120807
You made me sad.