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fuck123456789
this post is really dumb
louisianahussy
Just buy 2 sodas. >__>
DanimalHabitat
Everyone disliked Hilary (myself included), but more people voted for her (myself included)
Schmuck4hire
It's like Alex Hirsch said, comparing her to Trump. "There's a difference between a flawed candidate, and the enemy."
51CorgisInABar
So what this guy is saying is that the people who voted for trump were so triggered that they couldn't keep their emotional response in
51CorgisInABar
check and reacted as stupidly as this? Not seeing a whole lot of difference between them and the people he's complaining about.
zma123456
Most of this BS. First of criticizing someone is one thing being racist is another. This is another person trying to blame the liberals.
JustPuffins
Nah, not particularly. This is the old conservative, "liberals are out of touch" mantra.
IamMelonLordeYaYaYa
which is, ironically, woefully out of touch
pravetz
Actually this is true. It happened because republicans are successfully defining liberals as an enemy worse than Putin.
BrownskinOriental
I thought it was just a natural cycle of 8 years dem, 8 year GOP->8 years Dem->? years GOP
RedDK42
Shhhh! Don't spoil it. We've got a good thing going here.
FullMetalloidAlchemist
Its a pendulum, same reactionary bullshit, just with different triggeres. Goes back forth on who's peddling it every few years
BrownskinOriental
Same old 2 party system controlling the government.
whatupmyknitters
Yes but I think they're addressing why Trump over any of the other Republican candidates
BrownskinOriental
Sure, but that's a primaries problem. The 8 years is actually vulnerable because he can lose the seat after 4.
whatupmyknitters
i'm just clarifying what the meaning looks to be.
5YK0515
This sounds WAAAAY too much like the last season of south park.
IceBankMiceElf69
It's almost as if South Park is satire & political commentary or something, idk
PianoMan2112
And sounds British.
PianoMan2112
Okay assholes, which part of "rubbished their parenting skills, took the piss out of their beliefs" isn't British?!
idontmindselfies
It really doesn't.
revcleo
Haha, apart from that person being more of a twat than most. We don't call it "soda" that's so yank.
Holgard
The only liberal I've met that's done any of these things was a brony on the internet that thinks he's a Trotsky communist.
conniecpu
>TROTsky I see what he did there
SubgeniusMessiah
As long as we keep shoveling shit at each other, we're going to have a bad taste in our mouths.
thelizardking24
This
Isorikk
Turn back, there's nothing good down here
BekkarAman
Ok
PietroAretino
Thanks son. Good day.
NotASpeckOfCereal
You're right ... you're right. Off I go, thanks.
HULKSMASHMOUTH
It all floats down here! http://imgur.com/mlowrej
TheLighthouseSavage
Looking out for us comment scroungers.
Ihadtoditchmyotherusernamebecauseofyou
But there is this. Well worth my scrolling.
balencedrago
Thanks
Antidote12
I love this comment. Love it.
Achgelis
arctyler1111
Thanks fam
Cortezdelanoche
Top and accurate comment right here
IGuessDinosaursArePrettyCool
I should've listened.
DartTarget13
LetsBucketListThisBitch
"People don't like being treated like shit".. so this includes gay people that want to marry, Muslims, etc too right?
TheOnlyPtylerdactyl
"No i said 'people', scary minority groups don't count" -this asshole, internally
ShowMeYourBoardgames
What does he mean by eco-pieties?
pleaseusethisaccount
It does feel like the divide between people is only going to get bigger. The country wont achieve anything unless its united.
Skibearbumm
I commented on here saying the same thing. This dude is just playing victim pointing fingers and creating a bigger rift in the divide.
Glorphanmad
Correcting attitudes instead of finding them jobs? You realise that the unemployment rate was cut in half the last 8 years right?
Cayowin
Who is this You this author keeps talking about?
delpharseven
Ugh not this again. Don't reduce a complex, two year long sequence of events involving billions of dollars and hundreds of millions of 1/
delpharseven
people down to "backlash against SJWs". That's right SJWs, it's all your fault! Nevermind that only 54.4% of eligible voters turned out, 2/
delpharseven
or that Trump actually lost the popular vote, or that voters in some swing states too busy being desperately afraid of real problems to 3/
delpharseven
even be aware of this crap, or that large segments of the US population are woefully uninformed and still think that Barack Obama is a 4/
delpharseven
Kenyan Muslim and Iraq was behind 9/11. Nope, it's all those nasty SJWs fault. 5/5
daftthoughts
What I'm reading is "People demanded equal treatment, denounced racism and bigotry, and because we fit the bill we're upset at being called>
BambinoBambino
Can't believe I had to scroll that low to find this
daftthoughts
>what we are. Clearly us voting for Trump is YOUR fault because we wanted to keep on being assholes in bubbles." That's not how it works.
51CorgisInABar
The idea that people living in cities, multi-cultural and informations hubs, are in bubbles is laughable
daftthoughts
Racist bigots who are for the first time experiencing what it's like on the other side live in bubbles.
51CorgisInABar
Agreed. The lack of understanding is frankly rather pitiful, but they seem to simply lash out instead of understand how ignorant they are.
Skibearbumm
Yup playing the "victim" is a real adult move. Just sayin being a white Republican Christian you are hardly the victim. But you do have to
Skibearbumm
Be responsible for your actions. And if your actions are saying "God hates fags" well you get safe spaces and public movement.
daftthoughts
I just love the irony in "You treated us like shit THIS IS WHAT YOU GET". That 'treatment' is a response to being treated like shit.
faebala
Yeah, exactly.
PigMarshBetweenTwoSaltWaters
To be honest, if you're against gay marriage, you kinda are homophobic. That one's fair.
puffyjacket69
There are a lot of them that are very fair. People that voted trump dont care for decency.
Innoculo
What if your religion says homosexuality is bad and your against it based on the tenets of your faith?
PigMarshBetweenTwoSaltWaters
Then fuck your religion
PigMarshBetweenTwoSaltWaters
Keep in mind, the Bible condemns shrimp-eaters to eternal damnation twice as many times as gay people
sangheraj
Then you don't have to be a homosexual, but they can. The practice clause of the first amendment, free to practice as long as it doesn't
Innoculo
That's another topic. IMO just because your against gay marriage as part of your religion doesn't make you homophobic automatically.
sangheraj
Infringe on anyone else's freedom
drockmn
Then you better follow to the T every stupid other rule in your religion.
Innoculo
If you follow a religion that kind of the point right. Based on the religion, But thanks for playing.
drockmn
No it's not. Eating shellfish is just a big abomination as being gay. But nobody is preventing you from going to red lobster.
drockmn
No it's not. Eating shellfish is just a big abomination as being gay. But nobody is preventing you from going to red lobster.
barberst
A friend did an article for News Week covering multiple counties across PA consisting of mainly white folks, that all voted Obama.
barberst
These same people decided to vote Trump because they felt their problems were no longer a concern with the Dem party. Each county saw
barberst
Unemployment rise, wages go stagnant. They won PA for Obama and decided to go another way. They weren't racist, or sexist. Just regular folk
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barberst
These are the same racists that voted for Obama twice right?
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barberst
Great read actually
TheLighthouseSavage
Link? Thoughtful commentary is so much better to delve into than half the shit that's thrown out.
barberst
Sorry about not following up. It'll be easier to link it when I'm not on mobile. I'll get you this week.
FusRoDoodles
*Deep inhale*: You believe that people should have a right to choose an unhealthy super sized soda, but if they choose to love their (c)
Flabort
I can't help but upvote both this and op. you both have excellent points.
Gadvance
Are you runnning next time, you should
CrimeBrulee
My friend, you cannot argue with over-generalizations.
Burritotacotime
Well said.
finnikins
God bless you
IamMelonLordeYaYaYa
please vote this higher
coloradotransplanted
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NOTaReplicant
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FusRoDoodles
same gender you're entitled to stand up against it. You assume the solution to immigration isn't reform, but to build a massive wall (c)
FusRoDoodles
to shut yourselves in. You want to find people jobs, but you believe capitalism is the sacred way while ignoring it's simply much (c)
FusRoDoodles
more beneficial for employers to outsource jobs, pay less, and replace labor with machines. Because you were so ingrained with standing (c)
FusRoDoodles
against your previous president that it's genuinely laughable you're upset people are standing against this one. Because you use Caitlyn (c)
FusRoDoodles
Jenner as the face of transgenders more than the left ever has or ever will. Because you say your beliefs are being pissed on when at the(c)
MarshmallowFluffernutterPie
Sorry but if you're against gay marriage, then what are you if not homophobic? There's LITERALLY no other reason.
Terminology
This is so stupid. Blaming Trump's victory on a generalized small SJW minority is retarded and way too simplified. What an idiot.
sangheraj
Scapegoat, they realized what kind of idiot trump is AFTER voting for him and they don't have the decency to accept responsibility
Dangerneck
Did we ban paragraphs?
Eestitiiger165
Not yet
GilderoyPopDropNLockart
Goddamn liberals
miados
based on the text limit on imgur i would say yes they did ban them
Spidey209
Kind of the original point. Ignore the message. Denigrate the messenger.
thefloofmonster
Do you want Trump? Cos that's how you get Trump.
Kerro1981
brilliant
8213641987365983276598265
Typical response from da left. Din't have nuttin. Go Afta da grammur
Mgiggity
Monday
Insomnia297
This is actually funny
MyCatLovesToSnuggle
matticusspraypaintimus
Can't now
NegentropyX
Yes, yes you did. Now you are sorry, you Trump-maker you.
Thatusernamehasalreadybeenchosenandisnolongeractive
Para-shaming
rabiddutchman
#ThanksTrump
heresyinspector
#damnitdonald
rabiddutchman
Oh that's WAY better!
heresyinspector
Thank you
ThankGoodnessYourHerePrematureEjaculationMan
You didn't get the memo?
pookieeatworld
I did, but it was one long paragraph so I didn't register most of it...
Thatusernamehasalreadybeenchosenandisnolongeractive
Hadn't gotten para-shamed yet
YourAestheticSucks
Oh look, more people taking obnoxious fringe ideals and acting like they were what was front and center of the liberal agenda.
puffyjacket69
Fox news in a nut shell.
jacker68
Actually it was.
MnemonicMonkeys
Not to mention 1/3 were from Conservatives and another 1/3 are just plain stupid.
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Dagordae
Why should he? He's not wrong, most of what the right got up in arms about was pretending tiny fringe groups were the majority.
FusRoDoodles
"Liberals always silence opinions!" "Hey this is the extreme left" "SHUT UP YOU LIBERAL"
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Dagordae
Something that Bernie himself begged them not to do. Cutting of their nose to spite their face.
IamMelonLordeYaYaYa
As a Bernie supporter, that's extremely childish and no better than an extremist right/leftist reason for voting either way
Innoculo
And Dems thought specific groups would automatically vote for them. I know gay people who voted trump.
HEXADECIMAL
I know but they're downvoting me BC they're angry about the truth.
illegalacorn
I, too, know stupid people. Gay people can be stupid too.
DrFartstheTRex
As a liberal, this is what I've been telling people for years. Quit being so damn judgmental and pushy with rules and such. 1/2
FuoriTenebre
As a middle age white male... it is an insult. I live in Nebraska and the majority of white males mirror the stereo type.
PianoMan2112
I've been saying for years there's going to be a backlash for "make a public apology or you're fired" for personal actions/opinions/tweets.
PianoMan2112
People were fired from their jobs for saying (what I must type as "the N-word" or get banned) 20 years earlier & for private conversations
PianoMan2112
Anthony Cumia (straight white man) was hit by a black woman for taking pictures (not of her), rants on Twitter, fired via email over weekend
Blissardz
That's exactly what my kids say.
FuoriTenebre
Blue Collar working class. Look there are facts, there is more going on beneath the surface and i apologize but this post is shallow
drockmn
As a liberal you need to stop trying to please people who are walking all over you and grow some balls.
FuoriTenebre
And i do not apologize for the constant, out of order replies... im really sick of post that do not understand the bigger picture...
FuoriTenebre
We are winning "hearts and minds". So either Civil War or GOP gets old and dies... only two futures I see.
RawSuger
whereas calling ppl libtards,closing abortion clinics and frisk and stop laws are a continuation of the free spirit of the american frontier
FuoriTenebre
This election was lost due to Electrol College rigging that started a decade plus in the past. GOP is beating us in a technical game....
maniacalmacaroni
Gerrymandering is one of the GOPs best secret weapons. The way the districts are shaped is completely laughable and inexplicable
SamArt53
The Dems gerrymander when they're in power.
maniacalmacaroni
Yeah, but the republicans have way more power on the state and local levels where those changes happen, and that allows them to do it more.
maniacalmacaroni
It's hardly even fair for me to blame them for winning by doing something that is legal. redistricting needs to be redone across the board.
FuoriTenebre
Will your next arguement be that we need to give Trickle Down Economics a chance? Cause yea, we tired that and it destroyed the...
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PmMeWeirdPorn
Stop copy- pasting this in every fucking thread. Nobody stole the nomination from Bernie, Clinton had more support, simple as that. You 1/2
PmMeWeirdPorn
Voted for a liar. You voted for someone that has promised to easily fix every problem in the US, and when he doesn't do what he promised 1/?
PmMeWeirdPorn
You will defend him and blame the democrats. Or you will defend the fact that you voted for him by blaming the dnc for "rigging" bernies 1/4
PmMeWeirdPorn
Nomination
HEXADECIMAL
I voted Libertarian BC I vote my consciousness. It's you Republocrats who vote party lines and attack anyone telling you the Truth.
PmMeWeirdPorn
I didn't vote for anyone (I'm from Norway) but I am sick of people defending Trump and reflecting every wrong about him on to someone else.
DrFartstheTRex
People are different, and that is okay. Focus more on what we have in common and politely debate our differences. 2/2
FuoriTenebre
As a liberal, I disagree. There are basic, yet fundamental, differences between the two parties that make compromise/communication impossibl
Shizaaam
You're the problem.
FusRoDoodles
Nobody wants to debate anymore. On EITHER side. They just want to scream they're right and shut themselves off from more info.
JaegerBombster
I don't know why it's so hard to find people like that. It's like they have to hats you because your opinion is different
FuoriTenebre
Now Libertarians are conservatives that a Liberal could have a debate on how to solve problems. GOP has to die off and...
FuoriTenebre
You need to learn about the last 40 years of politics to fully understand where we are... and how bad this could easily be.
SEAW1NG
Your so right but remember Mark Twain, it's easier to fool a man then convince him his been Fooled.
sangheraj
Now what if, hear me out here, I fool a man into thinking he's being fooled!?
TheAnnexationOfPuertoRico
I used to qualify myself as libertarian for this reason until I found out the movement had been co-opted by theocrats. But yeah, you right.
stopitlucas
Same here.
YouWillNotLikeThis
Just remember that clinton lost the election because of something like 10.000 votes. So maybe don't put to much in to theese teories, 1/2
YouWillNotLikeThis
2/2 since you know she did get more than 2 million more votes than Trump. Voter ID laws probably played a much bigger role than
YouWillNotLikeThis
3/3 "Ohh no I can't smoke in parks"
whatupmyknitters
Are we not gonna mention the outdated electoral college system? Because I'm pretty sure that's the biggest issue here.
YouWillNotLikeThis
It is, but that can pretty much only be changed if indidual states choses to pledged EC mandates according to national majority
Doctorfatherson
To be fair, being against gay marriage IS homophobic
Imnotu
That thought right there is an example of the problem. You think you know the reason, without actually knowing it.
AtomIndigo
Technically no. Being afraid of gay people for no reason is homophobic. Not wanting to allow them to get married is just being a dick.
kastabbin
Or maybe it's because you're opposed to people receiving tax breaks for no reason. The married get breaks because of children 1/2
kastabbin
Which are a benefit to society. Personally I'd just push government out of marriage and make tax breaks about producing children. 2/2
drockmn
Homophobic has evolved past a meaning of fear.
benfinklea
Or maybe you oppose it for religious reasons. Religion is important to people.
drockmn
You mean homophobic religions?
benfinklea
What do you mean by that?
joeafro
That may be so but religion has no right to be in the same place as politics.
benfinklea
Then politics has no right to dictate religious beliefs, agreed?
jrasher
i mean, there is no non homophobic argument against gay marriage.9
JackCoughlin
Marriage is literally a religious thing done by private institutions, the gov only uses it for tax shit. Civil unions should be equal to
AAngeles
Thank you.
drockmn
There isn't. There are people who cant handle that they are shitty so they come up with bullshit answers.
PffftNext
Ah sweet i was ready to scroll all the way down to see this opinion at like -3, glad it's not
Whargarbal
What about that it should be separate from the church and should be the legal function of a civil union; In no way connected to the church
Butane9000
10th amendment
SwiftBlackWolf
Call me crazy, but isn't marriage literally meant to be defined be a religious ceremony? How is that hateful to want it to be what it is?
SwiftBlackWolf
For the record, this applies to more than just gay people, and marriage shouldn't be a political status, so non-religious people can opt out
Bottlecapboy
Yeah I agree with a lot of the points in the post, but this one caught my eye for that reason
jrbickers
the religious argument has so many holes in it. if religion says to do that, why don't they go to church on saturday like the bible says?
jrbickers
a lot of inconsistencies with what the religion says to do. and what people pick and chose to follow.
ItsaMrE
Well that's just fake
ItsaMrE
False*
ChirpHard
There should be a different term in regards to recognition from government for ALL marriage. Marriage shouldn't be defined by the government
ChirpHard
Like: marriage is a religious act, no? What happened to separation of church and state and all that
51CorgisInABar
Well, there are. I don't agree with this, but marriage benefits are specifically designed to incentivize having a child in what the
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majority of people believe to be a stable relationship with a typical "breadwinner" and a "caregiver". Adoption aside, why give those
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rosiethereaver
So infertile couples and those that choose not to have kids don't deserve marriage benefits. Got it.
51CorgisInABar
Oh come on, you're smarter than than. Just because an idea is carried out in a homophobic way doesn't mean the idea itself is homophobic.
51CorgisInABar
benefits to a couple that can't have children? Yes I'm aware that adoption is a thing, but you asked about non homophobic arguments.
thanatos777
Those same non-homophobes would never in a million years argue that a sterile or aged straight couple shouldn't be able to marry.
drockmn
Because having a child isn't mandatory when you get married. And this is just grasping at straws to not sound homophobic.
51CorgisInABar
Not grasping at straws, the idea itself is not homophobic. They way that idea is carried out often is. There's a difference
JackCoughlin
Marriage in the eyes of the gov and a private entity (church) should be able to choose who it performs ceremonies for Personal liberties etc
Skibearbumm
For real. This post is just playing victim. It's a bit annoying.
conniecpu
You mean they're doing exactly what they accuse the left wing of? ;)
noforeplay
"It's your fault I voted for Trump! You made me do this!"
miados
i heard "if they are going to tag gay to marriage anyway why not make a new word for it that is defined as the gay equivalent of marriage"
whatupmyknitters
https://media0.giphy.com/media/d31xnTCv2E8Gc7ni/giphy.gif
rosiethereaver
Separate but equal, eh? Yeah, I see no problem with that whatsoever! /s
miados
its more like "if white plus blue makes light blue why does white plus red make pink and not like red?" plus how does a word seperate?
rosiethereaver
Yes, let's use color theory to argue whether or not marriage equality is right.
drockmn
Gay people don't say they are getting gay married you idiot. They say they are getting married.
miados
no but everyone i hear says they need to legalize "gay marraige" not marriage for gays or marriage equality. *shrug* and gay weddings
drockmn
Do u understand how adjectives work? Should you not call "black people", people? Why don't they just come up with another word for people?
conniecpu
I mean, nobody says it anymore, it's the law of the land and only a constitutional amendment can change it ;)
miados
i dont want them to change it but i was trying to show an arguement i have heard that i didnt think was homophobic. 1/2
Wolfyboy
Of course there is. Those who have no issue with gay couples but believe that marriage is a church institution between man and woman.
youresowrongImadeanaccount
Yep, not necessarily homophobic in that case, just theocratic. Unless they're campaigning to end legal recognition of marriage altogether.
Dokramuh
Also cutting smoking in parks and banning super sized sodas are incredibly good for public health care.
MrDonaldTrump
So is banning motorcycles and not exercising. Where do you stop?
Dokramuh
Smoking and obesity are the world's biggest killer. So shut up with your shitty comparisons.
MrDonaldTrump
not exercising contributes heavily to obesity
Dokramuh
Do you want a super sized drink? Buy two. Smoke away in the comfort of your own home. These are sensible changes. What is your problem?
ScoreQuest
As a smoker I'm completely fine with these laws.
Glumerlink
people bitched initially but now i don't think anyone really gives a crap
HillaryClintonsEyes
Just buy two large sized pops if you love pop so much.
CheeseIsNaturesFudge
But that makes me feel like the fat ass I am!
MicentennialBan
It's entirely possible to follow a faith that does not agree with it and have no personal issue with homosexuals..
rosiethereaver
Also, you cannot be against same-sex marriage because of your religion unless you adhere to every other stupid rule laid out by it.
rosiethereaver
But wanting to restrict the rights of other people because of your faith is, by definition, bigotry. You think your beliefs are superior.
MicentennialBan
I can believe homosexuality is a sin and want equal rights.. no love in oppression as far as I can tell
rosiethereaver
Then you're not anti-same sex marriage, are you?
MicentennialBan
Hmm well personally I guess I am not for it.. but I would vote for marriage equality.. does that make sense?
MicentennialBan
Nope legally it's utter bullshit. And my opinion should never bar someone from happiness and fair treatment
thanatos777
If your belief says that homosexuals shouldn't be able to marry--regardless of whether it is a religious belief or not--you're homophobic.
Vinom11
Don't agree with gay marriage and I have a couple of gay friends. They know how I feel. We're friendly and I'm not scared of them.
thanatos777
"Homophobic" is a term of art.
DeanOMiite
I'M ASKING AN HONEST QUESTION HERE AND NOT MAKING A CASE BECAUSE THIS IS NOT MY PERSONAL VIEW...but is "bible forbids it" homophobic?
youresowrongImadeanaccount
In principle, no, just theocratic. But unless they similarly oppose divorce, masturbation, and wealth, then yes, it is probably homophobic.
51CorgisInABar
The Bible forbids it for largely homophobic reasons, so I would argue yes
BeesechurgerProductions
Under the meaning of homophobic wanting to completely ban it because of your personal beliefs IS homophobic no matter what beliefs those are
DeanOMiite
I guess I'm thinking more of the motivations. Does one feel a certain way because of external or internal factors? Maybe it doesn't matter?
DeadDak88
This
BeckysaurusRex
No but it depends. I personally don't agree with gay marriage but I'm not out damning people to hell or trying to get laws passed against it
DeanOMiite
Well this is the crux then...are you homophobic? I think many would say you are. I'M not saying that but I bet many would. It's touchy.
BeckysaurusRex
Yeah good point. I personally don't think so since I bear them no ill thoughts or actions but you're right. Some may still say it is
DeanOMiite
What I can't reconcile though is, if you say black people shouldn't be able to marry, that's totally racist. So what's the difference?
WaterblightGanon
yes.
Tomyris
Yes because the bible literally forbids everything. As modern humans we have decided to ignore most of what it says, for example (1/2)
BeckysaurusRex
That stuff is old testament judicial and cultural law for the Jews. It is no longer relevant to Christians
CardsinMA
Tell that to Christians.
BeckysaurusRex
Christians who still nitpick the old testament stuff are the ones who give us a bad rep. They honestly bother me a lot
youresowrongImadeanaccount
Indeed, but divorce is still a NT sin. As is, for that matter, capitalism if we're being picky.
youresowrongImadeanaccount
(to say nothing of Paul's misogyny)
BeckysaurusRex
It's more vulture capitalism than anything but true. There are still things that are sin it's just none of the weird Jewish cultural stuff
SupremeTacos
And yet the criticisms and sins of homosexuality are ALSO old testament.
BeckysaurusRex
Not entirely. Some is in the NT and also the ten commandments are back there as well but we still use those. The ceremonial law was for Jews
BeckysaurusRex
2/2 n was left in the old covenant, moral law was for everyone n was kept in the new. Difference is now sins can be forgiven w no sacrifice
Tomyris
it forbids wearing certain mixtures of fabric, tattoos, gluttony, getting remarried, pork- and football, working on the Sabbath, etc. (2/3)
Tomyris
But people forgive all that and focus on gay marriage as if they follow every single rule in the bible, when in fact they pick and chose.
Whargarbal
They pick and choose because in the New Testament Jesus says that for Christians you no longer need to be concerned with the things like
IamMelonLordeYaYaYa
There's also no rationale behind pressure to get rid of (no ban on) large sodas, bans on public smoking, or half these other things (1)
DrColdMolecule
Liberty and making choices about our own bodies isn't a rationale for large sodas? Smoking in public affects others so quite different
IamMelonLordeYaYaYa
That wasn't Trump's platform; and it also doesn't justify the kind of man we elected into office.
DrColdMolecule
Agreed. Fuck, Trump, I'm pro-liberty
venomlash
We ban smoking in public businesses bc it's a health hazard. Thank you for playing. http://circ.ahajournals.org/content/111/20/2684.full
IamMelonLordeYaYaYa
Yeah, duh?
quartzrose
No, no, read their second comment. It makes their point make sense
venomlash
Pardon me, I stand corrected. Imgur sorting has kinda made a hash of the comments on my screen.
IamMelonLordeYaYaYa
somehow resulting in an actually racist, white nationalist, bafoonish cheeto being elected into the highest political office in the country.
IamMelonLordeYaYaYa
(2/2)
ChirpHard
Show me where he was a "racist" rather than just a bigot
IamMelonLordeYaYaYa
"Black guys counting my money. I hate it! The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys in yarmulkes."
ChirpHard
Again I don't think this is racist. The way he says it may come off as that to some
IamMelonLordeYaYaYa
"Who the f knows! I mean, really, who knows how much Japs will pay for Manhattan property these days."
ChirpHard
I fail to see racism
IamMelonLordeYaYaYa
And I can't find an exact quote, but his statement (repeatedly defended) that Judge Curiel was incapable of being impartial in the (1)
IamMelonLordeYaYaYa
Trump University case because he is Mexican (later Spanish or hispanic). (2/2)
IamMelonLordeYaYaYa
this is also ignoring his several lawsuits over discrimination, a slew of other quotes that most would find racist, but that I imagine (1)
IamMelonLordeYaYaYa
(2) that you would ignore/dispute, as well as the thought that being biggotted is somehow different/better than being racist.
RawSuger
first people need to understand that a republican won after 8 years of democrat in power which is what you'd expect. 90% of his voters were
lawngnomecollector
That is very true
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victimsociety
Bernie was the chosen one
AngryGroundhog
Then they fell for Russian/Right-wing propaganda. Nobody "stole" the nomination from Bernie - he never won it in the first place.
RawSuger
much more plausible than that democrats felt hurt when republican values were ridiculed. sad tho cuz hillary much closer to sanders policies
JacksRagingGallbladder
Seems to be the perfect example of sinking your ship to kill the captain
JacksRagingGallbladder
I wish you well with that
Coldin
Don't know why you're getting downvoted. I know a few dems that did that too.
HEXADECIMAL
The Dems are STILL in complete denial and as such will probably lose the next presidential race too.
RawSuger
good chance they disagree w changing to trump. how downvoting someone mentioning that helps is beyond me tho, but thats imgur
HEXADECIMAL
I know a TON of Dems who did this but the mainstream Dems are in complete denial. It's ASTONISHING that they're so Blind.
RawSuger
the data ive seen no more democrats changed sides than they always do. but the ones that did this was likely part of it
xzhous
Because Sanders supporters who went to Trump didn't support Sanders on issue
RawSuger
i dont see how that is his fault tho
xzhous
Not Sanders' fault. It's more that people who did that weren't supporting Sanders on issues in the first place. Bandwagon voters
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BeckysaurusRex
Not necessarily. The congress was expected to go back to the dems but it stayed republican
GasBandit
It usually waits to happen until the midterms.
RawSuger
republicans who'd vote for any republican candidate. Trump won by a small margin, a few million who might have voted differently
YouWillNotLikeThis
He won because of something like 10.000 votes
weliveinaspaceshipdear
Plus, Dems just didn't show up. Lowest Dem turnout in a loooooooooong time.
fencerman
Technically he won by minus 3 million votes.
MrTay
Except trump had many of the people who voted for Obama vote for him... I don't know where you got that. The rust belt was all Obama before.
RawSuger
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/11/08/us/politics/election-exit-polls.html?_r=1 only a smidge more than republicans voting hillary
RawSuger
there always is a few changing side for whatever reason.there was no large scale political shift,if the was he'd have won popular vote bigly
ohhhDrew
He also pulled a lot of the historically democratic base to his side. But that's none of my business
RawSuger
compared to previous elections no more than other candidates. there's always ~5% that switch side in both parties
RoamingJager
He was also going against one of the most hated politicians in modern times.
Ventx
Most fanatical Dem I knew voted for her GOP opp. when she first ran for the Senate primarily because he didn't want her running for pres.
RawSuger
indeed the republican campaign against her starting w benghazi tribunals cost her, might even have moved some of the undecided voters
TheBronzeHairline
I'm guessing you're younger if you think the republicans started coming after Clinton with Benghazi. She's been the most hated politician in
TheBronzeHairline
The last twenty years
Ustrello
It was about 100k votes across 3 states that won him the election that is it.
SanchoPanzaWasFat
Yep. 80K across three states
motherfuckingtrex
And that's definitely more fair and balanced than just a majority vote because it just makes no sense that more people get more say
ytg895
Actually, what you say :) http://www.factcheck.org/2008/02/the-reason-for-the-electoral-college/
TheFloridaiestMan
It has never actually served it's supposed function unless u count FL, WI and MI as sparsely populated agricultural states.
motherfuckingtrex
Really interesting stuff, I'm not so sure I agree with the thinking anyway but it's good to know more of that background.
miados
wait he only won 3 states? man the electoral college is even more unbalanced than i thought
Danickel0902
There are really only 4-5 states that really decide the election with the electoral college.
miados
huh cause if i remember right when bush won almost any state change could have made him lose it
RawSuger
and god fucking hell please please please tell me they didnt let a realityshow looter gain power because their sodasd got too small
AmounRah
As opposed to letting a (in every sense of both words )lying maniac gain power because views of others means one needs a safe space..
PigglyWigglyJigglyTuff
Its not about the soda, its the fact that the govt takes away my freedom to order a large soda, its the principle. This is just an example.
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PigglyWigglyJigglyTuff
Well thats the democrats stance: bigger government more regulations. The govt is the solution to all problems...
pachyderm
lol. they did though... imma give him a chance. he isn't my guy, he is my president though.
RawSuger
the states he won that republicans werent projected to was the rustbelt. he won because democrats didnt offer answers to inequality
DrFartstheTRex
People don't like having their choices dictated to them. It's about a lot more than that.
FrenchPressBenchPress
I think the decision was partly strategic. If there's a draft, we're not going to win a war with an army that gets winded on 10 stairs.
ketochris
Haha. I like you.
RawSuger
well now they will get to make a lot of choices when either they lose healthcare or deficit explodes from taxcuts
DrFartstheTRex
Oh, please understand, I do not at all disagree with you. What I'm saying is Trump channeled this anger into a successful populist movement.
ItTastesLikePurple
If people voted for him because of that, I feel like it's my full right to call them morons.
Kebabremover9000
"People who voted for personal freedoms are morons" Yet another reason Trump is president.
ItTastesLikePurple
"A city government voted to limit the size of sodas, better vote against environmental, civil rights, and consumer protections"
darynu
"It happened because there is a small group of liberals who are extremists and think dumb things that the others don't"
mimomisu
Extremist groups can be pretty loud, no matter what they babbling about. Loud means media coverage
sorathecrow
A small group, yet somehow that small group tends to be the people that get elected time and time again.
CaptainAmericaSteveRogers
The extremes keep on yelling at eachother with half truths to incite the other side, and the vast majority of us are caught in the middle.
SnugglesaurusRex
Left extreme, is everyone being kind to each other, and maybe not destroying the biosphere. Right Extreme is lots of dead minorities.
sumoni
Sorry I'm late but left extreme seems to be a lot more over what people can say and do. I'm all for being nice, but you shouldn't force it.
SnugglesaurusRex
Bullshit. The 1st Amendment is to the Left what the 2nd is to the Right. The 'what people say' bit is minorities standing up for themselves.
sumoni
How do you feel on the topic of people wanting to ban certain types of words or phrases? We may be on the same page about this.
Seattlite
"Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right here I am, stuck in the middle with you."
CaptainAmericaSteveRogers
broganz
We need to be louder than the outliers, I suppose, is the lesson here
Mdp2525
datboi1234
>small group
SnugglesaurusRex
OP thinks they have right to go through life without suffering disagreement from anyone. What a fragile little snowflake.
LosPer
Orthodoxy doesn't originate at the political center of a movement
ssjalhazred
1 I hate to break it to you, but when the extremists Atlee the ones allowed to control the narrative, nobody gives a shit what the others
ssjalhazred
2 think. The key word in "silent majority" is SILENT.
LoTRFanatic42
Caring about the environment, not smoking in parks, giving trans and gay ppl equal rights, and treating refugees like people arent extremes.
darynu
I was primarily referring to the part about calling people facists, racist, homophobic, and saying stuff is hate speech
williteverstop
I don't understand why it feels extreme to them? This isn't PETA like tactics or Westboro tactics, this is just asking for decency.
Zasep
"Small"
IamMelonLordeYaYaYa
"It happened because of the small band of liberal extremists reactions to conservative extremists, but I'm gonna pretend like the second(1)
IamMelonLordeYaYaYa
group doesnt exist and the moderate conservatives were victimized instead" (2/2)
TheGodUncle
He/she didn't say the second group doesn't exist, did he/she?
Doraste
-1 for the he/she
IamMelonLordeYaYaYa
I didn't say he SAID the second group doesn't exist, did I?
TheGodUncle
I'm sorry, I thought you meant that with your comments.
segfaultytowers
Half of these things aren't even extremes, they're just not being a dick to gay and Trans people
Dracosi
It's possible to be against gay marriage and not be homophobic. I've seen people against it who aren't horrible or stupid, just religious
darynu
My issue with being against gay marriage for religious reasons is, not everyone is of your religion, right? There are even cultures that 1/2
darynu
For a very long time have accepted and celebrated homosexual couples, including actual marriage
LoTRFanatic42
No, not really. You're denying rights to gay people even though their lives have no effect on yours. How is that not homophobic?
sumoni
Sorry I'm late, for many it's actually just the definition. Those gay people are free to marry as long as the marriage is opposite sex.
sumoni
It's the same right as a straight person to marry someone of the opposite sex
segfaultytowers
You don't have to be horrible or stupid to be homophobic, you just have to not like gays as a group and deny them rights
Whargarbal
Making it marriage and trying to force it through the church is just stupid It should be civil unions with all the legal effects of marriage
Doraste
I'm not homophobic, what do I have to fear from a gay guy? A home makeover or some shit?
Dracosi
They don't hate gays, they just believe it's against the Bible. Not my view, just what they think. Some don't think it should be implemented
Dracosi
2but would kind of be okay with it as well, because it's not their place to deny rights.
LosPer
That "small group" of liberals sets the tone for the culture as amplified through the mainstream media...
SnugglesaurusRex
He's throwing a tantrum because someone said to him, 'don't be an asshole to me.' And it's too much for him to take.
DrFartstheTRex
I live in a college town, and I define myself as liberal. This "group" takes one look at me in my pickup truck and assumes I voted for Trump
LosPer
Pickup Truck is "out group" behavior because environment. Get you a Prius and you'll be back in favor...
Findlayh
This. The small group was never told to shut it by the larger group and if you did you got shit talked and got no support.
LosPer
Yup. Orthodoxy is not created at the center. Witness, the Roman Catholic Church...for thousands of years.
williteverstop
Was created by the Roman Empire by twisting a small cult into a legal religion and co-opt ing the rest of it into their established society.
FllintEasywood
To be fair, this is from facebook. He's yelling directly at the other people on facebook, not the entire nation/internet. Facebook is 1/2
FllintEasywood
full of the shit he is yelling about, and also full of shit from the other side as well. Facebook is insufferable.
DukeTritus
I haven't met a liberal who didn't call me racist for supporting trump.
SomeCrazyNerd
Hi I'm a gay atheist socialist. You're probably bot racist!
SamTheMicrophone
Hi! I'm liberal. I disapprove of your decision, but you're probably not racist (though it's hard to say for sure, because I don't know you).
jokeinsurance
You should have votes 3rd party. You're not racist, just misguided.
TheDuke0fHazzard
But we both know voting 3rd Party is a throwaway vote. Dont get me wrong, I voted for Gary, but he barely made a dent in my state
DukeTritus
In your opinion.
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stabbedintheface
Literally every liberal I've talked to who voted for Trump..
noblesseoblige7
That's a whole lotta piss out of you mate
hadji
Hold on, let me downvote your personal experience. Because reasons. Or maybe raisins. One of those. (Enjoy the upvote.)
HEXADECIMAL
In the US you downvote the truth BC you don't like it.
hadji
Stinging truth. Surprised you're not negative. Have a second.
gnuclear
Why was this downvoted? It's a fact. A lot of Bernie Sanders supporters really did vote for Trump as a "fuck you" to Hilary.
HEXADECIMAL
It's imgur, they down vote the truth just BC they don't like it.
Dedeurmetdebaard
Tigersterne
Everyone's vote is their own, but voting Trump because you didn't get Bernie seems pretty nihilistic to me.
TMRWMETA
Not necessarily trump and Bernie do agree on some issues such as isolationism and 15 dollar min wage
ForgotMyOtherAcct
..trump is for that minimum wage? I can't seem to find a source for that but it would be neat
somegur
He has said specifically he thought raising the minimum wage would be bad for the country.
DeadDak88
I have not heard that about Trump and min wage, the opposite in fact...
TMRWMETA
He has flip flopped on it but he has stated 15 10 none and the current min wage
DeadDak88
http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-presidential-debate-fact-check/2016/10/trump-kaine-minimum-wage-229149
maniacalmacaroni
More like masochistic. Hillary had absorbed a large number of Bernies positions into the platform, as is often the case, in order to appe
TheDuke0fHazzard
More like back assward. I really dont understand the socialist Bernie supporters that voted libertarian
goldenspider666
That's not what people are upset about its her shady campaign practices and how the DNC rigged the nominaton
maniacalmacaroni
Appease his voters and get their support. If they don't have coke at McDonald's, I'll have sprite. Don't go fill your cup from the toilet
DeadDak88
Wow, I've never heard a more astute analogy. May you have all the up votes.
CuteThingsAreMyWeakness
I'm stealing that one for later use
Khaotix11
It seems to me that there's a lot of nihilism on the left, though.
maniacalmacaroni
The goddamm DNC didn't determine the democratic nominee, the voters did. They wanted one of their own, a dem, not an independent, yes,
TheMershedPerderder
Ah yes, because the calculated voter supression where people had to stand in line for 5 hours didn't matter, nor the restricted poll hours..
maniacalmacaroni
That stuff, if it was actually due to the DNC, is obviously unacceptable, I agree. But no, I still don't think it changed the results. (1/2)
TheMershedPerderder
No. It was due to the DNC, not if. And since the counties were swing areas, especially in NY, PA and CA, it would have changed things.
maniacalmacaroni
But she won by 1000 delegates, 11 contests, and 3 million votes. And all those people who got so upset about it that they voted for Trump2/3
maniacalmacaroni
But it was the millions of voters who did or did not vote who determined the winner. Once again, don't blame every liberal who did vote,
maniacalmacaroni
For something that a handful of DNC people who did something wrong, but inconsequential. Blame those who didn't vote. Or go ahead and blam
maniacalmacaroni
E the Bernie supporters who did nothing else besides vote. If they wanted to see him win they should have donated time or money like countl