Some things I wished I had known before having a baby

Oct 6, 2015 10:29 AM

ShearWind

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Baby's cries

Why do babies cry? They say that mom just KNOWS why.
This is total and complete bullshit.
For the first few months my husband and I constantly played the guessing game as to why our daughter was crying. We eventually figured out the cause after eliminating all others.

As the baby grows, parents LEARN how to recognise certain signs like fatigue, hunger, pain or just "hold meeeeee" whimpers.

Importance of breastfeeding

Breastfeeding is best for your baby. Antibodies. Perfect food. Yadda yadda.
YES this is all true and moms to be read all about that stuff and some choose to breastfeed, others do offer formula.

But has anybody told you about how fucking CONVENIENT THIS SHIT IS?
Seriously. Moms have ready made milk, perfect temperature, perfect consistency, perfect everything right there, anytime, anywhere. She just lifts her shirt and pops the boob in the tiny human's mouth. That's it.
With formula there's definitely more work involved. Nurses at maternity wards should definitely insist on this aspect if they want to convince moms to breastfeed.

You cannot spoil your baby

It's true.
I was so freaking out that certain things that I do will set the grounds for bad habits in my daughter later on. NOPE. Until they reach about 8-10 months, spoiling is the least of your worries. Babies need to be much older to understand that they're being spoiled. I went over my head with affection and holding and picking her up at her slightest cry BECAUSE I WANTED TO.
She turned out just fine.
No ragrets.

Co sleeping

Having a giant scar on my uterus was quite painful and getting up 20+ times a night was also painful and I was a walking train wreck so one night I thought "fuck this" so I put my daughter into bed with me. We both slept better. Much better. Nursing was a breeze and my husband and I got plenty of rest. That's the way it worked for us and I realize it is not an option for many so, each parent will do what they think is best for their baby and themselves.

"But isn't that DANGEROUS?"
Yes. It is. If you're stoned, drunk or totally irresponsible then it is.

There are guidelines out there for safe co sleeping and it can be done. There are just some things that need to be kept in mind, that is all. Google is your friend in this.

"Back in my day...."

Stop right there.
I don't care. That was back in YOUR day so zip it.
Advice is very welcomed any day but do not try to enforce that shit on me. It's not gonna happen. I';m gonna listen to your advice, probably even try do to the things you told me and report back to tell you if it worked or not.

You need to remember that YOU are the parent. Not your mom, dad, aunt, neighbour or friend and YOU and only YOU decide how you deal with YOUR baby. Simple as that.

EDIT : I am well aware that breastfeeding moms go through a shitstorm of issues (souce : been through one myself) and weather to do it/not to do it is each and every mother's personal decision. I was just trying to point out that when I started doing it and it was so painful it almost drove me insane, I really wish I had someone tell me how much easier nursing would be compared to the formula making process (especially at 3 am while the baby is screaming), rather than lecturing me about benefits and other stuff. Many moms don't want to or can't actually breastfeed and that doesn' make them bad moms. Don';t let anyone pressure you into doing either if you do not want to.

FP edit : holy crap, guys. Thanks for all the love!
MRW I got the "Staff Pick" trophy http://i.imgur.com/JrCuAHB.gif
I'm relevant! (yelled the speck of dust)

I am currently nursing #4 and it was just as painful starting out as the first time with each. I am always glad I stuck it out though.

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

YOU NEED TO KNOW THIS: When Dr hands you the baby 1st time, its eyes can go in opposite directions and that's ok. That one fucked me up.

10 years ago | Likes 24 Dislikes 0

I was present at my niece's birth a couple of weeks ago and she was so fucking cross eyed it made me laugh. It stopped after an hour or so.

10 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

I was shoving mine back in the doctor's hands going FIX HER EYES HOLY SHIT! etc. Of all the classes, books, w/e, they should have told me.

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

AND VACCINATE THE LITTLE BUGGER

10 years ago | Likes 149 Dislikes 10

You misspelled booger.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

And please don't do it to yourself when putting baby to sleep don't turn off all the sound in the house, play music leave tv on, get the

10 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

Baby used to loud sounds , you will thank me. When you have guest over and everyone has to be quiet because the baby is napping is no good!

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

As a new father i am jealous of my wife's breasts, particularly at 4 in the morning.

10 years ago | Likes 37 Dislikes 1

You're wife could pump and store the milk in the freezer. That way, you have back up milk supply that you can feed your little one with.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The thing is I have to go prepare and heat that. Not just lift up my top an feed. When the little one is crying every second is heartbreak.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Very true and it's hard. But it's one of the things you learn, 5 mins of crying won't hurt them. Just cry with them :P Good luck!

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Is she single? I like breasts.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

No some bastard has her trapped

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Whenever a friend is expecting, I always get one of these in the appropriate color: It always goes over well.

10 years ago | Likes 32 Dislikes 1

I have this & the "if you didn't put it here, don't touch it" shirt on my pregnancy wish list. I know my mil is going to annoy me.

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

All true, esp. No.1. Worst thing I was told when my daughter was very new was "you know your baby best"..yeah, nah, I really didn't.

10 years ago | Likes 44 Dislikes 1

"IT'S MY BABY I KNOW BEST" *Feeds 2 year with old redbull*

10 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 0

Yes, I see my mistake, but you can see it as 2 year old redbull if you want.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

You're such a nutcase! Obviously Dr. Pepper is the way to go...

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I raised my kid the way I thought best, no matter what others said. My kid is now happy, healthy and successful. What more could I ask for?

10 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 1

My daughter looked so much like my wife I could always tell why she was crying, because she had the same facial expressions as my wife.

10 years ago | Likes 20 Dislikes 0

The hardest thing I found about being a parent was dealing with other parents who fancied themselves "experts".

10 years ago | Likes 884 Dislikes 5

However annoying they can be, that is definitely not the hardest part.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

"Congratulations, you've managed to not kill a child."

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

The part I hate the most is when they start the sentence with "I was reading about... and how is wrong." -_-

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Generally the hardest thing I disfavour being a parent is other parents entirely. Just, ugh.

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

Everyone is an expert on anything they do, except when in the company of someone with empirical evidence of their ineptitude.

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

I go out of my way to hold my tongue. I have two kids which is far from an expert, but still experienced... and still keep my yap shut.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

my experience is you do what works for you so I'm not about to preach at you about what worked for us.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

These "experts" are called mother-in-laws

10 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

I found grandparents and people in their generation annoying. Simultaneously telling you that you do too much, and not enough.

10 years ago | Likes 93 Dislikes 2

My 17mo son won't eat or sleep. "Have no tried apple sauce?" No you fuckwit. I've tried everything EXCEPT that. Problem solved, genius.

10 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 1

Becoming parent in March. Already experiencing this.

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

Same here! Have you also gotten the judgement from people on names? That is the best.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

We are still working on the name, and we decided to keep it to ourselves- mostly because we don't want to hear about it. Good luck!

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Smile and nod. Smile and nod.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Any time I don't listen to my mom's advice she gets so fucking mad it's stupid. Plus she doesn't respect what I want as a parent.

10 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 1

Omg. This is my life right now.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I was trying to discipline my stroppy three year old and my mom took his side. You can imagine how easy that made life.

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

Put them *both* into time-out.

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

Can confirm. Like "I raised 2 kids and I KNOW BETTER THAN EVERYONE" kind of stuff

10 years ago | Likes 125 Dislikes 8

People give my cousin shit because they think his daughter is a mentally handicapped 5 year old. She's just a super tall 3yo. So judgey!

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Especially since my relatives who think like that raised 3 kids who are all in therapy now to get over their parents' "education"...

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I've only ever had two pieces of advice for any parent, listen to the sound of a baby being circumcised before deciding to do it. 1/2

10 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 4

Was the 1st piece of advice meant to deter? I watched my son be circumcised, and I'll still circumcise any more future boys.

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 5

They made an emotional argument rather than a logical one. It will work for some but not for others.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

The logical argument also doesn't seem to sway people so i figured i'd at least try.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

And please please don't hit your kids. Just becasue you have finally internalized it and view it as a positive doesn't mean it was. 2/2

10 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 4

Agree w the hitting. Hitting only relieves parents' stress, it doesn't teach the kid anything. Other than to use violence to solve problems

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

As a pregnant woman that got shell shocked by the reality of symptoms, thank you.

10 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 1

Symptoms?

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

One of the more annoying aspects of people becoming parents is that they all suddenly become experts on being parents

10 years ago | Likes 34 Dislikes 3

"I really don't think you should-" "YOU'RE NOT A PARENT, YOU DON'T UNDERSTAAAAAAAAAND" *lets kid eat 35 pop-tarts*

10 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 0

To be fair, Poptarts are nummy. But really, at least statistically speaking, there's gotta be a fuck ton of bad parents shelling out advice.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

OP included

10 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 0

People thought I nursed because i was a crunchy-granola mom. TBH, I was lazy and cheap. Free milk? I can lay down and do it? That is my jam.

10 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

High five my fellow lazy and cheap momma!

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Ditto. I used to think I was super granola, and then I realized it's just cuz baby wearing, nursing, co-sleeping are all just easier.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

My advice to all new patents: no matter what you do you'll be "wrong" to someone, so do what feels right to you

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

if you want a safe/cheap way to co-sleep with your baby, buy a SNIGLAR crib (ikea) remove one side, attach to your bed with hooks or belt

10 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 1

Sniglar = Snails in Swedish

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

This is what i did! it was perfect.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

How about this one: That flood of lovely emotions that movies show when mom first holds baby? Not guaranteed, even for months, and it's OK.

10 years ago | Likes 181 Dislikes 1

I think this point is super important and that most women shouldn't be ashamed or embarrassed to admit it.

10 years ago | Likes 51 Dislikes 0

Yes! Those "keep this tiny, helpless creature alive" instincts are often more logically-based than emotionally-based at first.

10 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

YES. I wish had more votes. So many women don't know this.

10 years ago | Likes 25 Dislikes 0

My crotch trophy is TWELVE & I just found out I was not some emotionless freak bc of this. More mom's need to know this.

10 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

Writing down "crotch-trophy" as a way to mortifying my own 11yo. Thank you!!

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

This is extremely important! I did not get to see my baby much in 2 weeks from c-sect complications and felt I didn't bond enough 1/2

10 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 0

with him. I felt like I didn't 'connect' and I was ashamed. Keep an eye out for postpartum depression and seek help!

10 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 0

My story was the exact same. He's almost three now and I still sometimes feel like I am missing something important.

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

My son is 20 m/o and sometimes I feel that too. What helps me is having my husband take him for an hour while I have some 'me' time 1/2

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

and taking him out to the park, walking, playing in the dirt...just doing activities with him. If you're a woman of faith, pray :)

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

yikes

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 26

It's true, and incredibly important for women to know when they give birth. Having the love for the baby grow over time is normal and fine.1

10 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 1

normal? it probably doesn't happen in the majority of cases, so normal is the wrong word. sorry you didn't love your baby right away.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 31

Don't try to take jabs at me. I'm not insulting anyone or being rude. It's normal, and this reaction doesn't help people who go through it.

10 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 1

it's something that CAN happen but won't for the majority of people. not loving your baby is not normal.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 26

man, there are a bunch of super sensitive women here lol. Imgur really needs to grow a thicker skin. go hold hands on tumblr or something.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 17

Many women discover after birth that they aren't getting that flood of emotions, and they believe there's something wrong with them when (2)

10 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 0

I'm glad i read this. I'm not pregnant, but I often imagine the overwhelming flood of love you would feel when looking at your baby.

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

In reality, both reactions to giving birth are perfectly normal. (3)

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I HATED the first three months as a parent. I was NOT prepared for how fucking shit it is to be a new mom. Now, a yr later: totally worth it

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

I'm opposite. Newborns were easy for me - eat, sleep, change. Now that I have a 2.5 yr old and 14-mo old I want to gouge my eyeballs out.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

So the worst is yet to come ? Oh darn! :P

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

OMG This! Sure teeny baby snuggles are great, but most of it is bullshit. My third kid was SUCH a PITA until she was about 6-8 months old.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

So agree on the convenience of breastfeeding, as much as wanted couldnt do it, exclusively pumped, and still more convenient than formula

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

I'm pumping now and have done formula and I find formula way easier. Trying to hang on to the breastmilk as long as sanity will allow!

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I found bm easier because it stores better, Ive had 5 oz of it stay fine at room temp for 12 hours, also reused bottles many times, no 1/2

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

need to wash every time. If you need help/advice pm me, I'm still exclusively pumping after 13 months :) 2/2

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Serious question, why do parents keep the baby's crib in a separate room? Isn't it a lot more convenient to have it right there

10 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 1

In our situation it has to do with lack of space in our room. We managed to squeeze a bassinet besides the bed for a while though.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

After 3 weeks of life my son was alone in his room at night bc he snored while sleeping (and husband and I wanted some sexy time too)

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

my mom told me she put me in another room so she could get some sleep :/

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Everyone does what is best for them but I agree with you. Plus-I nursed for two years. Much easier to to just plop them in bed with you.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

So you don't end up with a four-year-old who won't sleep in his own room. Going to his room at night really wasn't such an inconvenience.

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 3

Yes breastfeeding is way more convenient and cost effective but it isn't necessarily the right magical thing for everyone.

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That is true, but some people wouldn't consider that can be less work than Formula, especially if they have never known anyone to nurse.

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 2

Yes! Going through terribly low production right now and seem to be feeding and pumping constantly, formula feeding would def be easier.

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Be sure your getting enough water & calories. Avoid stuff that can reduce supply like mints, Menthol and decongestants...

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

But no shame in formula. If I had to take extraordinary measures to nurses hang it up too. Or nurse what I could then finished with formula

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I'm pumping and supplementing giving myself goals like I know I can make it this way x amount of weeks. I just wish it were easier sometimes

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Oh for sure, I think that lack of information is a huge factor in what people choose. I breastfed my son until 13 months and never LOVED it

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Parents choose what is right for their family and I think the best thing we can offer is information and support for their decisions

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I loved it with my first, but feel blah about it with my second.

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It's either poop, pee, hunger or fear. Sometimes all 4

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Sometimes, babies just cry. It relieves tension.

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Or belly aches :(

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Or too hot

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Do not co-sleep!! In the span of two weeks we had 4 kids come in dead. While the odds aren't super high it's a huge risk for something easy!

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People need to realize that rolling on the baby isnt the only risk. If any of parents bedding shifts onto a newborns face, it can suffocate.

10 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

When they are newborns, they don't have the ability to push anything off of their face=(

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Agreed, when I co slept with my son, he had his own blanket for this very reason. Helps create a buffer btwn us & no worries of suffocation.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

I love how ppl think the squishing is the danger. It's the frakking heat too and ppl don't get it that baby hates to be baked

10 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

Baby cries: 1st child: OMGOMGOMG Why is she crying!!?!?? - 3rd child: Meh, she cries which means she's still alive. I'm going back to sleep!

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My sister had 6. I raised one, so by the time I had my own I'm pretty chilled out with mine.

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It only took 2 for me to get there.

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It took me a couple months with my kid to realize this. And I only have one.

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Lol that's funny

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

So the third kid learns that his needs are not relevant and that there is nobody who cares, nice move.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 3

You obviously don't have kids, have never worked with kids, and maybe even don't have siblings.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 3

A half-brother, brother, sister, a son, 3 nephews, a niece, worked in a kindergarten for 3 years. Learned to take kids' needs serious.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

LOL!

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 3

I wish I could give you more than one upvote for this...

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

4th child here. There's home movies of my crying my head off and my parents just continued to tape my siblings.

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fuck you grace, my dance routines were awesome

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

You're just mad mom turned off the camera every time you were in the shot during the puppet Christmas video

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There are dozens of us. DOZENS!

10 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

One of us one of us

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

5th child here. I'm 23 and still hear new stories from neighbors about me wondering onto the main road or similar things at 2 years old.

10 years ago | Likes 84 Dislikes 1

1/2 I did the exact same thing but I'm the 4th child. Whenever my dad was asleep I'd use to climb down the front steps and crawl across the

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

As a 2nd child, I did that once on a dead end road and almost put my mom in jail for neglect.

10 years ago | Likes 34 Dislikes 0

My parents lost me at my first birthday party. It's on video.

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

My dad dropped me on the 'Pirates of the Caribbean' ride in Disney. He didn't know there was a drop coming.... thankfully he caught me. haha

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

2/2 road into a furniture place, this happened twice. I even use to crawl under our fence. This all happened when I was 2 - 4

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1/2 My family got a pool right after I was born, but didn't get it fenced in. My dad build a physical trip wire that would go off if I went

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

2/2 too close to it. It looks and sounds like the fire alarm bells from grade school. He told me he was tired of following me around.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

I learned after bringing home a fake baby from school and shoving it in a closet wrapped in blankets to block noise, I shouldn't have kids.

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1/2 I did the fake baby. Thing woke me up twice crying. I ended up crying after trying everything and woke my mom up to help. Shit you not,

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I did the egg in middle school. Got a metal box and toilet paper, shoved that bastard in my locker. I didn't need convincing babies suck

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

2/2 a few minutes with my mom, the thing shut up. My mom is amazing with babies. Real or fake apparently.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Why on earth anyone would have more than one is beyond me.

10 years ago | Likes 23 Dislikes 9

We had two - to replace us. Also someone told us not get outnumbered by our kids and we took that to heart lol

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

If the first 5 doesn't survive you have 5 more just in case!

10 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 0

Same reason lots of people get a 2nd dog. They need a friend.

10 years ago | Likes 27 Dislikes 0

Better to have 0 at that rate

10 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 9

nay, no uh-uh. Two entertain each other, #1 teaches #2 (so kindly don't mess up #1), and there is usually PLENTY love to go 'round. Enjoy.

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

Masochism is real

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Some people misplace their children like car keys I suppose.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

As someone from a big family only having one seems really depressing

10 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 2

Agreed. My siblings are my best friends.

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

Same, not to mention some of my cousins.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

I'm an only child. I probably would've killed a sibling. I HATED other kids and sharing. Loved being an only child.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

More depressing: http://www.census.gov/popclock/

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 5

Not really depressing, but eye opening. the stork is working overtime

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

9 billion in 2050.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

nah

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

Because they are awesome. I have 3 boys 6,3 & 1. Wouldn't change it. Life is so much better with all of them.

10 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 3

http://www.census.gov/popclock/

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 4

Pshh. We'll be long dead before overpopulation starts to take its toll ;)

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

No, no we wont. You see, you and I here in the West have nice things because most of those 7 billion do not. But they want nice things.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Are you trying to shame me for having 3 kids?

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 4

Great link, cheers.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Spreads the genes. If you have one kid, when you and your partner die there will be one less person with your genes in the next generation.

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 2

Yeah, that implies the genes are worth keeping. Are they special in some way?

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

That's the whole point though, from an evolutionary standpoint. Getting as much offspring as possible.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

There's so many humans on earth I think the genes will be fine if I skip popping out a crotch demon.

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Only child reporting here. My dad is the only one of his siblings to have a kid. So the preassure to carry on the family name is all mine :)

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

My family have been only children for four generations on both sides. I am literally their only hope.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

I'm an only child. My mom's told me to not reproduce. I hate kids and I'm a genetic train wreck

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Y'all breastfeeding totalitarians need to slow your roll; makes for awkward conversations when mother's can't produce. They already feel bad

10 years ago | Likes 46 Dislikes 16

You talked about something some people cant or wont do. You are a bad person and should feel bad.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 4

Hey, we're all friends - I am not trying to be a jerk store

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Also, tough to do if you're not a stay at home mom. People don't realize you dry up if you don't do it every 3 hours. Pumps at work = rawr.

10 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 3

every 3 hours lol wut

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 6

I didn't even try to breastfeed. I didn't want to. All 3 of my kids were bottle babies. No regrets.

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 3

I know OP doesn't mean it as a "you MUST", but I took it the wrong way too. Reason? Wife couldn't produce, no matter how hard she tried (1)

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 3

, or how many LC's she saw. Some just can't do it. It sent her deep into postpartum after our first one. She felt like a failure as a mom(2)

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Don't see where you get this from, OP only remarked how convenient it is.

10 years ago | Likes 22 Dislikes 9

my only point is something innocuous like "Oh its so convenient, why aren't you doing it?" 1/

10 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 8

can actually be painful and make a woman feel "less than" Ya know?

10 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 6

You are absolutely right and no mom should be pressured into it. I was just trying to point out that there are more benefits than the

10 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 4

obvious ones that are widely publicized.

10 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 4

Convenient if you can stay at home and do it whenever. It takes a lot of logistics for a working mom, it's important, but difficult.

10 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 1

Yeh I tried so hard to breastfeed & just couldn't get my production up I was spending the first 2 months just feeding n pumping nonstop

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

3/3 and I felt like a crappy mother that I couldn't even feed my own child. so in terms if feeling bad, the whole subject can be a sorespot

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

My mom's generation were all told formula was the way - I am a formula baby and me good brain smart. :) feeling bad = good mothering!

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Aw thank you :)

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

to get a max of 2 oz each time, even after visiting a lactation consultant and meanwhile my baby was getting thinner and malnourished.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I struggled with breastfeeding for three months and stopped two weeks ago. I don't regret it.

10 years ago | Likes 44 Dislikes 4

I struggled for three months too, plus I was supplementing with formula because I wasn't producing enough. I hate that I felt 1/2

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

I breast fed my daughter for a year. My son, 2 months. Every baby is different. There is no right or wrong, just whatever works better.

10 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

My Mom couldn't breastfeed because she didn't make enough milk and I wouldn't latch. She feels bad that she didn't, even though she couldn't

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

This is hard for women. There is this idea that you are somehow "less of a woman" or a bad mother if you can't. It sucks.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

She's said pretty much this exact statement to me on more than one occasion.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

You do your best. You tried! Be proud you did what you could.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I made it 4 months and just switched to formula a couple of weeks ago. Baby is much happier now which makes me happier.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Like a terrible mother for that. It took me about a year to really let that feeling of inadequacy go.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I had to do the same thing. I felt stupid that I didn't realize my child was still hungry all the time, even with him feeding all the time.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Breastfeeding is just the new trend to make mom's feel like shit for making decisions best for them. 30 years ago it was the reverse.

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 4

There's mom-shaming on everything, it seems like. Honestly, if my child is being fed and happy, how k feed him shouldn't matter.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

You tried some don't even do that.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

My son was two months early and smaller than my breasts. I pumped exclusively for six months and had to stop b/c pumping never got easier.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I got kicked from breastfeeding "support" groups for quitting, but I did what was best for my mental health which is what's best for my son.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

My wife pumped. It allowed me to take all the night feedings for the first 6weeks while I was off work. I got to bond with my son more.

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

When I pumped, I barely got anything =\

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Some women cannot pump, no matter the amount of their supply.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

I was always engorged at some level. It was horrible.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I'm sorry, engorgement is just no fun.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

It took me a week before my boobies adjusted to the pumps. Then it was no problem. But it was hard either way...

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I never adjusted. I had to go back to work and I went through two pumps. Going back to work killed my milk supply.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I struggled w/ breastfeeding for 2 days and stopped (6 years ago). I had a 9lb baby and could not feed him enough. I don't regret it either

10 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 3

I'm glad you did what was best for you but keep in mind it takes 3-4 days for milk to fully come in. Colostrum has enough nutrients for babe

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 3

You tried. It was never convenient for me, like for some people. He was on me constantly, and he couldn't latch correctly. =\

10 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 1

And I don't feel like my son and I had *less* bonding time than a breastfed baby.

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

baby's stomach at 2 days old hold 1/2 tsp. Baby has stores from in utero colostrum is enough for days. Frequent feeding is how they signal

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Your breasts to make milk. It'scalled cluster feeding and its normal newborn behavior

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

It's fine if breastfeeding wasn't for you but please don't think it was because you weren't making enough

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Tiny Octopus used to get into arguments with his ex over him holding his daughters all the time and how she thought he was spoiling them.

10 years ago | Likes 237 Dislikes 17

Hold the babies. Hugging is good for them.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Tiny octopus sounds like an awesome dad with some lucky octopi babies.

10 years ago | Likes 56 Dislikes 2

I know right, I wonder if @TinyOctopus wants to adopt any imgurians? :)

10 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 1

I'm sad that you totally ignored the kick-ass tiny octopus I spent an hour hand drawing for you :(

10 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 5

AGH! Tiny Octopus is mortified. But grateful, because you drew attention to all the other hand drawn cephalopods that he missed.

10 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

Yay! USA!

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Tiny Octopus once told her that if she didn't want to hold them, that was her business, but he was going to keep holding them as long as he

10 years ago | Likes 170 Dislikes 8

could and as long as they wanted him to. There's nothing in the world better (in his opinion) than knowing you have someone who will hug you

10 years ago | Likes 164 Dislikes 8

*holds up banner* I LOVE YOU TINYOCTOPUS! you're my favorite comments to read :3

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I've been meaning to draw you a tiny octopus for like a month now. Also, TinyOctopus is a good dad.

10 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 0

YES YES YES YES! Especially by daddy, when you are the size of a NERF football (I was a preemie, and have a twin sister)

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

I loved holding my daughter. I miss it. I left when she was 6 months old. She was 2y/o when I got home from deployment.

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Ugh. Tiny Octopus was on several deployments with new dads. He was always glad that they got "first off the boat" privileges.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I took a few courses in developmental psychology, so I'm an expert (/s), you were doing exactly what you should be doing.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Especially if they have 8 arms.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

especially when you're like...the size of a football.

10 years ago | Likes 146 Dislikes 7

Octodad is that you?

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

absolutely!! When they're that tiny they NEED all the hugs, like ALL of the hugs ever in the entire world, that's what makes them secure 1/2

10 years ago | Likes 27 Dislikes 0

2/2 when they FEEL loved when they're so tiny, they feel valued, and value themselves, it creates secure, loving independent adults

10 years ago | Likes 22 Dislikes 0

Bullshit on that. As someone who was very rarely hugged, and abused as a kid I turned out just fine into a secure loving adult.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 3

TinyOctopus have eight arms and must be a great hugger.

10 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 1

Giggles were had when they were footballs. Lots of fun flying.

10 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Yes! Lovely :)

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

My mom still holds me sometimes. I am 171cm, 82kg and 25 years old.

10 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 0

Mom hugs are the greatest

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

Tiny Octopus jokes with his daughters (They're 4 and 5) that he'll continue to hold them. Although it'll be awkward when they're 30. :D

10 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Nursing mama here. Gonna go ahead and call you out on the breastfeeding part..."And pops a boob in the tiny humans mouth, that's it". (1/2)

10 years ago | Likes 38 Dislikes 6

Yes thank you. My son had a lip tie and i had to stop breast feeding after a week,felt like a failure butnot having the option isnt my fault

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

Thank you! My son has a lip tie i had to stop after a week. I felt like a failure but its hard to feel that bond when you cry every feeding

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 3

Whew girl, way to gloss over thrush, mastitis, ties, Supply issues, pumping if you work, allergies, and dietary responsibility. (2/2)

10 years ago | Likes 40 Dislikes 6

To name a few. This shit is not for sissies.

10 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 2

Been through them all and I totally get them. It's just that, personally, I wish I had been encouraged through those difficult times 1/2

10 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 3

2/2 with less degrading speeches and more actual encouragement.

10 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 3

No lactating consultant told me about the C-Hold and that was all I needed to resolve my latching issues. Also, blocked ducts, HOLY CRAP!

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Initial pain is toe curling and not helped by reading "if it hurts, you're doing it wrong" on every forum/leaflet around.

10 years ago | Likes 23 Dislikes 2

Not to mention that it is NOT CHILD ABUSE if you formula feed. Kids turn out fine. I'll take formula over horrid breastfeeding every time.

10 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 1

Totally. My premmie eldest was formula fed - he's a happy healthy 11 year old now. Formula saves lives. It's not poison.

10 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

I agree. You can't drink soda, can't eat some kind of sweets or meat when you're breasfeeding. And the part I HATE that NOBODY seems to 1/2

10 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 11

Not necessarily. I ate all those things without problems.

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

What? You usually don't have to restrict your diet at all

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

I nursing for a total of 4 year -this isn't true. Caffeine doesn't have to be avoided while BF. Maybe your worried about peppermint b/c it

10 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 2

can reduce supply? A little bit won't hurt. Breastfeeding has far less restrictions than pregnancy unless baby has an issue.

10 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 1

2/2 point out when you start bresatfeeding is the fucking PAIN ! That shit is awfull, your mamelons literally crack up !!! That hurts !!!!

10 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 3

Not everyone has that pain when starting out...and the cracking isn't normal either. Incorrect laching and not using cream can cause that.

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 2

Yes. I had bleeding sores for like...a week and when the nurse told me that breastfeeding heals them I thought she was nuts. She wasn't 1/2

10 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 1

2/2 nuts at all. A few (very painful) days later, they started to heal and had no issues from then on. Lucky me, I guess.

10 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 1

This. 1000 times THIS. Pain and more pain I cried. However, mastitis was worse but still.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Umm wut? Currently breastfeeding while drinking soda - where are you getting your advice from?

10 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 5

Crying in pain ... I also found out later he was lactose intolerant so I couldn't have any dairy .. Same with coffee

10 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

It upsets some babies bellies ... I know with my son I couldn't have anything like that because he was so sensitive. He'd be up all night

10 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

That's individual differences, there is no blanket rule that says nursing mums shouldn't drink soda or eat sweets and meat.

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 6

Only that they should have a balanced diet. Only meat rule I can think if is re liver and vit A in pregnancy.

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 4

You're not supposed to have too much caffeine, and if the baby is a preemie they often recommend cutting it out entirely.

10 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 1

Yeah if I drink caffeine my kid is bouncing off the walls, not all soda contains caffeine.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 6

Caffeine peeks 1-2 hours after ingestion. Baby only gets between a small % of total infested amount. I like to plan feedings around a coke.

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 5

Someone needs to mention the mutilated, bleeding cracked nipples part of breastfeeding. Doesn't last for more than a few weeks but fuuuccck.

10 years ago | Likes 231 Dislikes 3

I cannot imagine allowing a baby to put ANY part of me in its mouth.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 3

I KNOW! I suffered SO bad. Plus, blocked ducts were crazy too. Once we got it right, it was awesome!

10 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 0

One of my nipples almost fell off. Yep, from them cracking so bad. My dr. was astonished, he never seen that before.

10 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 0

People need to be told that you AND baby are learning how to do this while breastfeeding thing. Took me a month to get used to it.

10 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

THANK YOU. I was even on percoset post-Cesarean and the breastfeeding pain was unbearable. :(

10 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 1

Me too, I thought it couldn't get worse than engorgement, but I was wrong....

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Mine were store but never bled. I found that nipple shells, not shields, were a great help for the soreness and preventing engorgement.

10 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Blisters. I got freaking blisters.

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

If your nipples are cracked and bleeding, something is wrong. Positioning, latch, tongue or lip tie - there are ways to help fix it!

10 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 2

Yes, but in most cases, the learning process will result in some serious discomfort. Once both are pros, no pain. Takes 2-10 weeks.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Not always. MOST of the time breastfeeding shouldn't cause SERIOUS discomfort. Underlying problems are usually where the pain comes from.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

You're probably right. I'm just regurgitating info I heard from MY lactation nurse and pediatrician, professional opionions definitely vary.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I think that's part of the worst thing, is that opinions DO vary widely. I wish everybody could more or less come to a consensus. :(

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

That's why my mom stopped breast-feeding me. It was too painful for her.

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

I have heard many breast feeding moms say that after feeding if you rub some of your own milk around the nipple and area it helps a lot.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

This doesn't happen to everyone. It didn't happen to me. Sure, they were sore. But nothing more than that.

10 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 2

If you get through it you are tougher for it. I've got the toughest Cage and nip you ever seen!

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Breastfeeding does have downfalls but the liquid gold boobie milk offers bonding and less sickness in flu season

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

right away. Wish someone would have told me and encouraged my anxiety ridden self :/ 2/2

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

amen! I got these silicone breast pads sort of like for treating burns. helped SO MUCH

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

WHAT?!

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It only happens if you have a bad latch and don't know what you are doing. It's not normal so if there's pain see a lactation consultant

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Didn't happen to me.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

Didn't happen to me either

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Lily pads are a life saver.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

That is not normal and a sign of a bad latch. A little pain is fine but bleeding is not. See a lactation consultant

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Also, apparently whatever the mom eats flavors the milk...spicy food = icky milk, sugary foods = sweet milk

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 4

I can help you with that. I'm an expert at sucking the pain out of nipples.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Also nobody ever put any importance on the fact that baby is learning to nurse just as much as you are. It's okay if it doesn't take 1/2

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Luckily mine never bled. But I'm expecting baby 2, so there's still time.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

It's not normal for that too happen and it shouldn't if baby is latching correctly

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I wish someone would have warned me

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

As a male i did not know about that, it sounds terrible

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Nipple guards! Use nipple guards!

10 years ago | Likes 56 Dislikes 0

They actually can stop the mother from producing milk. My midwife warned me, I used them, in 2 months no more milk.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Yes!!!

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

And gallons of coconut oil!!

10 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

In the long term it isn't a good idea unless you have inverted nipples or another hindrance.

10 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

You just use one while you heal. Healing doesn't take long, especially if you get it on right away. I did this once & it worked well.

10 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

This is what I was told so I didn't even try them. :(

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

nipple butter? Its a cool thing. Glad my mom exposed me to this shit - A Guy

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Omg, why were we designed with such sensitive nipples? Im in pain just thinking about it.

10 years ago | Likes 35 Dislikes 0

Most women I slept with preferred a little teething/biting over just sucking!

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

Teething aside, they get used to the tugging/ pulling of nursing

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Commenting for reference. I'm about to have a baby soon and didn't know about nipple guards/shields.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Hydrogel pads are AMAZING when your nips hurt in the beginning. Lanolin cream helps. It DOES get better after the first few weeks. :)

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

They shouldn't be used unless necessary. Bleeding and lots of pain is not normal. Take a class or go to LLL meeting

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I've heard rubbing nipples with a wash cloth before having to breast feed helps with sensitivity?

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

I read somewhere that starting to use lanolin a month or so before the baby comes can help prevent chapping. I did it and had no issues.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Don't do that. It doesn't help and you don't want your nipples to be damaged when you start nursing.

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

Thank you. Was gonna look it up to see if it worked, but now I don't have to go through the trouble.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Also for some women the milk doesn't come in, or the child won't take, or it dries up...there are a lot of potential obstacles for women.

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

That's very very rare though. Like 1 or 2%. Alot of problems come from misconceptions and bad advice. Always see a lactation consultant

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

My friend had a very sick baby which had to be taken to ICU. Her milk dried up despite her best efforts because baby wasn't around. She felt

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

2. That she had failed as a mother and a woman. It might not be common but it happens and women need to know that they haven't failed.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

that is an exception she had a reason why she had a low supply. I was speaking about your milk not coming in or just drying up for no reason

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

I know, I just know that these things can happen. Its important women know that they aren't failures.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

my wife is due in 4 days, this was reassuring

10 years ago | Likes 80 Dislikes 1

Run m8, in my opinion you need to fucking run!

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 3

Bring gum or breath mints. She might puke and you'll probably have coffee. Lots of heavy breathing going on... good luck!

10 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 0

You should change the first few diapers. Cleaning the tar poop off their butts is an experience. Also go skin to skin with the baby.

10 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

Skin to skin! Yes! Moms do it more often for breastfeeding and whatnot, but Dads don't always know how great it is!

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Your wife isn't even born yet? You pedo.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Cradle rodder err robber...

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Here's hoping for a swift, safe delivery. :3

10 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Thank you!

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Breastfeeding is hard. Ask the hospital if they have lactation consultant visit mom and baby. Have the lactation consultant look for 1/2

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

lip tie and tongue tie as well as giving proper advice for positions. The nurses' advice for me was not helpful.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Say goodbye to your freetime.

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 2

My wife had ours a month ago. My advice is to sleep and help with everything. If she is yelling and mean, just let it go man. Good luck

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

First month is the hardest. Bring your own camera, hospital baby pictures are super pricey. There are no dumb baby questions, ask the nurses

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Your wife isn't even born yet?

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Make sure you take pictures and do the footprints in the hospital. You'll be exhausted and might forget but it'll be worth it later.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Congrats!

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

there is literally millions of years of child-raising experience behind you. It's in our genes. You got this.

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

Mostly in mom's genes, but dads certainly know a thing or two! And the results are always better when they stick around.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

scientific fact right there (provided it's a high quality dyad)

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

*there are. im very sleepy. on account of having a child.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

You and she will do a great job. Babies are fucking awesome. Know that breastfeeding is *really hard* but you HAVE to fight through it.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

If breastfeeding remember the 3-week growth spurt. It will look like your baby is starving, they're not. They're just bumping up milk supply

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

I'm not a parent and I've never heard of that, can you explain?

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

This! Do not supplement! Chedck out cluster feeding. This is what they do to keep milk suppl up.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Babies have growth spurts where they have enormous appetites. At 3 weeks, though, it's very easy to think you don't have enough milk 1/2

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

hungry or starving all the time the mother must not be producing enough milk, therefore they need to switch or supplement with formula. 3/?

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

However, it's aggressive, nonstop nursing that brings up the milk supply, within a day or two the feeding settles down and all is fine. 4/4

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

supply, especially because breastfeeding is not well understood by the general population. People think if the baby look like they're 2/?

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Pay attention to how the nurses handle your baby, you will realize you don't have to be as careful with them as you think!

10 years ago | Likes 29 Dislikes 0

They're little tanks! My husband was so scared when he first met our son

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Lol my dad was afraid to hold me because I "might break". The nurses were like, she's tougher than you!

10 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

My biggest fear is holding a newborn. I've only done it once just because I was sitting in a big couch. And they placed him in my arms.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

As long as you support their head and don't let it bobble around too much, you will he fine!

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

"But isn't that DANGEROUS?" Without even being inebriated, I'm just worried about rolling over and crushing my tiny human while sleeping.

10 years ago | Likes 790 Dislikes 12

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10 years ago (deleted Oct 6, 2015 6:13 PM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

-1 for being a fucking retard

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Only if you don't take the proper precautions. Check out Dr James McKinna. He's been studyj g cosleeping for 20+ years.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

That's why it's not recommended. Also, no blankets allowed ruins it for many. It's just -more- dangerous if you smoke or do drugs.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Up to you to decide if a little danger is ok with you. Not like danger free life is possible, or precautions are worthless, but it is danger

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I coslept w/ both kids in cosleeper beds. No way I could roll over them. http://www.amazon.com/The-First-Years-Secure-Sleeper/dp/B00012CHFI

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Cats are good practice. The scratching works like a shock and eventually you are psychologically changed

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

2/2 aware that there is a tiny delicate person there next to you and I'm a 16st 6ft man

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

I felt the same way about the 4-week old kitten we got, I was paranoid of rolling on him (even smaller than a baby) but we got through it!

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

When co sleeping with first and now the second little human (1/2)

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Because I worried about hurting my baby, I didn't sleep deeply, but I SLEPT! She didn't wake screaming cause she'd whimper without waking up

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I co-slept w/ my girl the first 4 months. I never rolled over her. I'm a heavy sleeper, but any little sound she made could wake me right op

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

My biggest concern is that adults sleep with soft things and blankets, and babies aren't supposed to. They can easily smother themselves.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I thought it was till I got a kitten, not the same thing but he slept in my arms and I woke any time I thought of moving. Ting as my hand to

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Nobody is saying whether it was mom or dad smothering but dads are less instinctually protective in this context than mom is.

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 4

Yes, there is risk. But remember, co-sleeping is not an American fad. Most of the world co-sleeps, have been doing so for hundreds of years.

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

3. the baby never woke up in the middle of the night and if she woke up before me, she'd just stare at me because she didn't feel abandoned

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 3

So, I've historically had sudden and violent re-positions when I'm tossing and turning... Like i get air time. (I'm awake, but it's 2 am.)

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

My mom works for a hospital. The dangers are real, you do need to take precautions.

10 years ago | Likes 27 Dislikes 0

1. i co-slept with a baby i was babysitting at nighttime at my place, while the mum was bartending. You don't roll over the baby just like

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 3

That and pushing them out of the bed by accident. I slept with stuffed animals most of my life and they always, ALWAYS end up on the floor.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It's like sleeping with a cat. When you wake up enough to adjust how you lay, you know they are there.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

wake at the smallest sounds our babies make. This is not accurate with someone who has a substance issue or doesn't breastfeed.

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 5

My husbad could roll over on me mnd not notice. No way i was putting an infant in our bed.

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

The guidelines say that you never put baby in the middle. Baby sleeps on the outside edge by the mother.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I guess it works well for some, but I was always very wary of bringing the baby in the bed at all. To each their own. :)

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I coslept with my baby, i had a babynest though, i was so afraid i would not hear her if something happend during the nigth, so i wanted 1

10 years ago | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

This is exactly why co-sleepers have been invented b/c I sleep like a log, a giant heavy log.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

2. you generally don't roll over stuff in your sleep. Unless you have night terrors or something similar, then don't, but otherwise

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 4

I co-slept with my daughter from almost day one, and because I was concerned about hurting her, I didn't sleep that deeply. It was (1/2)

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

When you have a child you are more alert "When sober" even when asleep i know exactly where my son is. usually with his feet on my face.

10 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 4

When I was a baby my mom worked night shift and slept during the day so she would sometimes put me in the bed w/her. She was nervous 1/2

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

about rolling over onto me, but she never did. Also I slept with my cat every night for 15 years and I never rolled onto her.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I fell asleep with my 4 week old in my chest, I just hugged her and woke up in the exact same position. Father instincts I guess

10 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 3

Sharing a bed with your baby increases the chance of Sudden Unexplained Infant Death (SUID). Source: CDC and NICHD

10 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 8

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10 years ago (deleted May 22, 2017 9:40 PM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

i didn't say SIDS. i said SUID. accidental suffocation is a type of SUID, as is SIDS

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

For years co-sleeping suffocation was misdiagnosed as SIDS.

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

As a person who has - more than once - woken up because I've full on punched the wall in my sleep, there's no fucking way I'm doing it.

10 years ago | Likes 42 Dislikes 1

I wake up in the middle of the night, sometimes not even facing the direction I was when I fell asleep. 0% chance of co-sleeping for me.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Granted I haven't actually done that in years but it's the risk I'm not willing to take.

10 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

I was thinking about co sleeping because I wake up before I roll over but then you said that & I remembered that I punched a wall, sleeping

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Could never happen in our house either. My husband acts out his dreams, gets out of bed, kicks, yells, and has ripped all the 1/2

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

bedding off the bed searching for turtles he dreamed were stuck in the sheets -_- Our bed is not a safe location for anyone.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I've woken up with bruises before, I move a lot!

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Susannah Wesley lost one of her children because the nurse did this. TBH tho, I think most of us would wake up if we rolled onto the baby.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

My mum had me in a cot right up against the bed so she could reach me without the fear of squashing.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I was worried about this to. But every time she moved or made a noise I was instantly awake. Those mommy instincts are strong

10 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 2

Yeah, op made it seem likes it's totally safe. It's not.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Yeah, a guy I went to high school with smothered his baby while sleeping. It's really sad. On the other hand my parents co slept with me. :/

10 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

Co sleeping can increase the risk of SIDS. I would personally advise against it the first few months. After that the risk diminishes

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 6

SIDS actually decreases when room sharing, bed sharing or co sleeping because sleeping near baby helps to regulate breathing.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Should I keep going? Or do I need to cite more sources confirming my statement?

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

SIDS actually decreases when room sharing, bed sharing or co sleeping because sleeping near baby helps to regulate breathing.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

That's just not true. The risk for SIDS can be up to 40 times higher when the infant sleeps in an adult bed and goes up w/ more people.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

My cat had only one kitten and it took to sleeping in my bed, right by my side. Never once rolled on it, and I'm a fidgety sleeper.

10 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 4

Well kittens can get up and walk away if you're getting too close for comfort. Newborn babies can't even roll over.

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 2

It was four weeks, so not much. But what I meant is, I always felt it when I rolled too close to it and stopped, even asleep,

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 3

Exactly! This is instinctual...so we can sleep with our babies.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 3

Not everyone, but yes some can, oh and go fuck yourself :)

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I have the same thing. My cat and I have been sleeping next to eachother for 5 years now, and I wake up when I get too close.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Quite a common cause of infant death actually...

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It is extremely dangerous.i coslept with my lo for the first 6 months of her life and never had a problem but it's not for everyone

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Sleep with your kids in bed. Put the crib next to your bed and you can keep them close. But I've seen far to many new parents loose babies

10 years ago | Likes 23 Dislikes 2

Into the wild?

10 years ago | Likes 29 Dislikes 1

Well if it's not a shiny...

10 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 1

Due to something that is completely avoidable

10 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 3

I'm not even comfortable sleeping with my laptop.

10 years ago | Likes 240 Dislikes 0

I have a full size bed and for years I slept on one side while my cat slept on the other w/ my laptop beside her. You get used to not moving

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

This speaks to my soul.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

To be fair, the only thing that's ever gotten damaged when I dozed off with my laptop in bed was me. Burns all over my thigh from the vents

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

babies are more flexible than laptops, and usually they scream if you roll over on them.

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 2

Not sure why I laughed and cringed at the same time...

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

You probably pictured a laptop screaming.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Hahaha! I did also and I can't stop laughing

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I sit on things all the time and have no idea until I shift positions or stand up. WHAT IF I SLEEP ON MY BABY AND DON'T EVEN REALIZE?

10 years ago | Likes 28 Dislikes 1

well the screams would wake you up eventually

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

*Presses a pillow over your face* Now scream and wake me up. ... Caaan't hear youuu.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Not if it's done correctly...

10 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

oooooh you....

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

I sleep with a 5lb dog between my legs, at my ankle, sometimes on my pillow next to my head, every night for years now. Never had a problem

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

You can get 'baby boxes' (dont know real name) to keep the baby clear of your body, but still co-sleep. You can't roll over them.

10 years ago | Likes 84 Dislikes 1

Not with that attitude, you can't! ... Seriously though. I had a dog who crushed one of her pups once, so this is a really good idea.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

They're called a co-sleeper :)

10 years ago | Likes 27 Dislikes 0

Push your bed next to a wall, and put a laundry basket between you and the wall for the kid to sleep in. I'm gonna be the best mom ever.

10 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 0

Depends on how you set it up and if you're a heavy sleeper or not. Both my kids somehow survived. ;)

10 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 5

You won't unless your a hard-core, heavy sleeper.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

As a cosleeping mother, your senses with a little one in the bed are crazy sensitive. Its actually safer to sleep nearer your child. We (1)

10 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 20

So true. Do these people roll over on their partners? No, because you know they are there. I loved Co sleeping.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 5

I agree! I can't believe how many comments are anti co sleep, hmm

10 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 6

So true. Do these people roll over on their partners? No, because you know they are there. I loved Co sleeping.

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 7

Not only do I roll over on my so, but when sleeping on high alert, I lash out, punch, seize, and spasm. So, yeah, co sleeping is not for me.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

My SO sleep-elbowed our three month old the one and only time we tried cosleeping. Shit happens. Better to be safe than sorry imo.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

OP is wrong. Med student here: it's 100% dangerous. as soon as you fall asleep, you lose control, and a nightmare or even a peaceful 1/2

10 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 15

Med student you may be but I'll take my info from someone who has studied this for 20+ years thanks

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

rollover will mean death and crushing for your little'un. NEVER SLEEP WITH YOUR BABY.

10 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 10

never say never, many parents cosleep and nothing happens many don't, if you want to risk it as a parent then you can, and vice versa

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 3

Med student you may be but I'll take my info from someone who has studied this for 20+ years thanks

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Professor James J. McKenna at Notre Dame studies co-sleeping extensively: http://cosleeping.nd.edu/

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

This a thousand times this. I sleep with my babe because of him and it works so well for us.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I have 4 kids they all at some point as babies slept in our bed you'd be surprised how you can sleep soundly but your mind will still be 1/2

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I don't cosleep simply because it does not work for me. I toss and turn like the ocean. Not safe for babies. But some people can.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

even if you don't think so, you're a lot more aware of the things that are going on around you while you're asleep than you think.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Fun fact! My former boss told me as long as you're not compromised, a mother will never roll over on her child. Instinct is a mutha fucka

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 6

My sister lost her 3 month old in a co-sleep situation. She must've been drunk, stoned, irresponsible, or didn't Google enough. -1 for 1/2

10 years ago | Likes 64 Dislikes 10

Dispensing bad information that could potentially harm someone.

10 years ago | Likes 46 Dislikes 5

I was one of multiple kids who all slept in bed with the parents - I know many who sleep in bed with their parents - it's hard to explain,

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 9

but when you go to sleep only thinking of the child's safety, you wake up about a dozen times when you THINK you heard/felt/smelled somethin

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 9

that might be wrong - there is such a thing as good parenting and bad parenting, there are also good parents and bad parents.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 8

-1 to OP. +1 to you ifinallymadeacomment.

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 4

there are ways around it, but co-sleeping cots look like the best option (imo) they attach to the side of the bed, so you can't roll onto

10 years ago | Likes 50 Dislikes 1

I did this with my crib - take a 3 in 1 crib and smooth it against the bed. Room enough for wipes and diapers so I never had to get up.

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

I used one with my baby and it was great - close but not in the same bed so it decreased the danger level :)

10 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

I'm planning on getting one if we manage to get pregnant again

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

A bassinet serves the same purpose and can be used all over the house.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

it's different and not as easy to access the baby, this means baby is on same levelas parent

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Our bassinet was same height as the bed and right next to the bed. For feedings and changing I had to get out of bed... So much work!

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

many women have babies that require a lot of feeding, it is a big difference if you have to lift a baby or not when you're sleep deprived

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

either the edge of it is the same height as the mattress, or its mattress, either way requires lifting a baby

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

And parenting is NOT easy... It takes work, if lazy assholes can't properly take care of their children, they shouldn't have them.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

you're the asshole here, not realising that minimising effort means higher energy for parent and thus better parenting

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

you're criticising something which make it easier for close contact with baby (good parenting)

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

2/ baby, but you've got instant access, and the proximity

10 years ago | Likes 23 Dislikes 0

My parents were purty poor and so they grabbed the piano bench and popped a dresser drawer on top and plopped me in it right beside the bed.

10 years ago | Likes 138 Dislikes 0

My bed used to be an old door with legs and a mattress on top of it. I slept like a baby.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

my first crib was also a drawer. My parents were only 16 and 17 when I was born.

10 years ago | Likes 52 Dislikes 0

Life Hacks ftw

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

My grandmother and her twin slept in the oven. The pilot light kept them warm. That was a long time ago in the rural Midwest though.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Why didn't they just sell the piano and buy you a crib

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 3

That's what we call redneck engineering.

10 years ago | Likes 28 Dislikes 1

Or genius...

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Rednecks are amazing at Macgyvering the shit out of everything. Function over all else, unless ints a car in the lawn, that thing is gone

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Geezus... I really am a redneck.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I never actually had a crib. It was a laundry basket

10 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 0

My sister and I slept in a laundry basket too!

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

My aunt did this when my father showed up at her doorstep overwhelmed with 2 day old me and then left to go drinking with her boyfriend.

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

Well you weren't her problem so...

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Oh, she didn't have a crib so she pulled out a drawer and stuffed it with towels and put me in it. She's my favorite relative and named me!

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

My FATHER went drinking with my aunt's boyfriend, I can see how that wasn't clear. My aunt took care of me during his breakdown haha.

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

OH!!! Lol I'm glad you're Aunt was kind enough to give your dad a break.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I couldn't sleep with my baby in the bed because I was so scared. Like, my body literally would not allow me to sleep deep enough to do 1/2

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

any good. She's 3.5 now and I STILL can't sleep with her in my bed!

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I slept sitting up in a recliner until my son was like six months. His dad refused to get up with him so I could get more sleep

10 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Dadfail. Sleepy mommy == unhappy home.

10 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 2

Tiny Octopus has fond memories of falling asleep in his rocking recliner holding his daughters while they slept. He misses it.

10 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 1

Some people are wired to sleep lightly when potential danger is involved. I am one of them. I sleep like death until my baby is in my bed...

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

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10 years ago (deleted Oct 6, 2015 2:46 PM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

Please please don't build a new baby a pillow fort, that's just a smothering hazard. Read up on safe co-sleeping.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Deleting to prevent problems. Good call.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Sorry, pillow fort was not a good description. It's a padded vented wall thing designed for co-sleeping. I didn't think about confusion.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

I know what you mean. I read pillow fort and immediately thought of Troy and Abed. Lots of fun but not suitable for infants ☺

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

I think about it like this - I've never rolled off the bed while sleeping. Your body is much more aware in sleep then we realize.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

First night, a nurse warned me that co-sleeping could lead to me crushing the baby. I curled up in a C around him and we both slept fine.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

As a breastfeeding mama you are biologically synced to your nursing baby. And boobin Mama should always be between babe and any other person

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 11

in the bed. Instead of spreading fear, spread knowledge because cosleeping happens! Visit drsears.com for safe guidelines :)

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 11

This can be a concern, but you can negate the risk by proper planning.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

We did it successfully. The problem now is how to get them to leave the bed. LOL! Our 4 y.o. flat out said she doesn't want to.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Was so happy when we finally got our third kid out of the bed. Now if he would just friggin' potty train...

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

In India babies always co-sleep with parents, and death due to co-sleeping is a rarity.

10 years ago | Likes 20 Dislikes 5

Yeah, it doesn't happen THAT often /satire>

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 3

You know how rare a baby being crushed to death by a sleeping parent is in a crib by themselves? 0%, a "rarity" is a chance higher than 0%

10 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 6

Do you know how many parents prepare the cribs incorrectly, resulting in suffocating themselves? Quite a few. Works both ways.

10 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 1

Touché, thanks for the information.

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

By the way I believe this was the most correct situation I've ever used the word for word definition of touché which makes me happy.

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

My cousin's husband was not inebriated when he rolled over in his sleep and suffocated his child

10 years ago | Likes 59 Dislikes 3

Not everyone can or should co-sleep with a baby. If you know you are a deep or restless sleeper then don't do it.

10 years ago | Likes 20 Dislikes 3

Oh my, how terrible! Im so sorry to hear that! A man could do that. A woman could not. Instinct.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 53

I find this comment stupid. I'm a heavy sleeper and slept with my kitten and I strongly woke up any time I needed to move when he was thrre

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Actually, men are as capable of experiencing changes as women during and after pregnancy.

10 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

And he was not hormonally synced to that baby since he neither birthed said baby nor breastfed it.

10 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 71

That doesn't sound like a thing that could help here, or even exists

10 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 2

Oh my. It does

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 8

That is not a real thing. Please understand that is not a real thing.

10 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 1

You are exactly what's wrong with the american medical system, jesus fucking christ

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 2

What the fuck...that's a big line of bs right there.

10 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 2

Is not. The connection activates that instinct where the mother knows where the baby is, subconsciously. Look it up!

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 9

That's ... That's not what hormones are

10 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 2

What does that even mean?

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

I put a changing pad on the bed and put the kid there. Knew it would stop me from rolling further, but that's me. Know your limits.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Yes - happens all the time. Don't do this without an apparatus designed to keep you from accidentally killing your kid.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

Meh, they're easy to make. Don't worry about breaking one, you can just replace it in 9 months.

10 years ago | Likes 26 Dislikes 12

Lets ask a woman in labour just how easy it is.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

They're so easy to make, I've made a few even when I was trying not to!

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

Do you roll over your partner? You know they are there and give them space. Same with tiny humams.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 5

My family was afraid sleeping with our baby would be risky if we rolled over. Not at all. When you sleep with a baby you're still as a stone

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I slept on my back with pillows wedged under both sides so I never moved. Know your sleeping habits, I never rolled but I wasn't going to-

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

risk it. Co-sleeping saved my energy since I had a "high spirited" baby. Attachment Parenting works for his personality. :)

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

pillows + baby = no no!!

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

He never got near pillows, miss. His crib was a super firm matress with no fluff.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The pillows under me never got near him either, as he was sleeping ontop of me with my arms keeping him secure. I sleep like a statue.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Yeah, SIDS is a real thing, don't even chance it. Co-sleeping without any sort of barrier is just being a lazy parent, sorry, not sorry.

10 years ago | Likes 48 Dislikes 29

Many blame side in part in the fact people are sleeping AWAY from baby, not with

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

SIDS is actually much more common for babies in cribs. The rate is quite reduced for those who cosleep

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Do you have numbers to support that? I'm curious.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

http://cosleeping.nd.edu/ Dr McKenna has the stats on his website. What I like about him is he is about facts and doesn't push for one way 1

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

2 or the other. Just gives the info for people to make safe and informed decisions that is right for their family. Cosleeping happens to 3

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

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10 years ago (deleted Sep 29, 2016 2:41 AM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

LOL, try to inform people who have the wrong info? Downvotes.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

There is very little evidence to support that yet.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

I wish I could give you so many upvotes, I can only give you one.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

Ha! You mean SiDS as in previously termed "cot death" because it so frequently occurred in the cot...sleeping away from their Mother. Oooh

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 9

They don't call it "cot death" anymore because it's not an accurate term anymore, there are numerous potential causes of SIDS.

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Fucking bullshit. Co-slept on occasions. Was at zero risk of rolling on her. Very fucking far from a lazy patent you sanctimonious prick.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 12

http://kidshealth.org/parent/general/sleep/cosleeping.html?tracking=P_RelatedArticle# see article about why it's too risky.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Parenting is about a lot more than the books you read, online articles or the opinions of others. Do what's right by you and your baby only

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 7

Hey, if putting your baby at risk of death is right for you and your family, that's cool.

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

Lol. I'll take my info from people who've studied cosleeping for 20+ years over an article thanks

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

I'm curious how you think this article came to be...did it just pop out of thin air?

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

but isn't SIDS by definition death by unknown cause (but thought to be related to sleeping on their front), rather than death by smothering?

10 years ago | Likes 33 Dislikes 2

There are so many more potential causes of SIDs than just sleeping on their stomachs. Things like excessive bedding, decreased air flow 1/2

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

not just suffocating or smothering are potential causes. Like I said, we don't know exactly, but there is too much to lose. 2/3

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

When you have a baby in PA, my state, you have to watch tons of videos about SIDS before they even let you leave the hospital.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

On Autopsy SIDS looks exactly like suffocation. The exact cause can't be determined, but for whatever reason the child suffocates.

10 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

Baby idea <3

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

That is a genuinly great idea.

10 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

OMG Yes! I sleep wild. like..REALLY wild. I can control it but once I am in REM all bets are off. This might work. maybe.

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Exactly.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Holy shit, that's perfect!

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Soon as I read the text I was like "Well, why not just place a physical barrier preventing you from rolling onto the baby?", seems obvious.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Yea...except for wild sleepers. I take my fitted sheet off nightly. So I would just knock the barrier off the bed, along with the baby.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

That thing was the best investment of all!

10 years ago | Likes 98 Dislikes 0

my sister has this one, best thing ever

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

We had one of these as well. The best thing is there's no transition for the baby later. They've always been in their own bed.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

That is the responsible way to do it. Sleeping with the baby has many dangers. Suffocation, falling of the bed, strangulation. Don't do it

10 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 5

Exactly. Why chance it. I would still manage to smack the baby in the face still somehow though even with this.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Well, I guess you didn't google it - part of safe cosleeping is a firm mattress, a rail and no bedding (not even a pillow).

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

And picture had bedding and pillow. Most people don't know how to safely do it and this picture gives entirely the wrong idea

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Lol, we've got an app for that!

10 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

That's good and all but what if you go all eat shit Bob Ross and wallop the baby in the gut?

10 years ago | Likes 169 Dislikes 4

For those confused:

10 years ago | Likes 84 Dislikes 0

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10 years ago (deleted Aug 18, 2017 12:36 PM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

ARE YOU FUCKING SORRY?!?

10 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

....What the fuck kind of dreams you having buddy?

10 years ago | Likes 49 Dislikes 1

I folded a body pillow and put it on my bedside table because I dreamt it was a giant bag of chicken nuggets that kept getting in my way...

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Reference game strong

10 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

The answer to everything... but seriously though, I used to sleep walk and endanger myself and people near me so I tied hands and feet.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Classic

10 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 0

I understood that reference

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Is anyone gonna answer the question tho?

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I would think babies are easy to suffocate with sheets if rolling on top of it wasn't a problem

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

When you're sleeping with your baby, you're very aware of it, even in your sleep.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

haha. I read the greentext for ref. But really...I am a thrasher. I would hope this would work. But maybe now.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

If you are a breastfeeding mother, not on any medications or inebriated in any way then no, you will not crush your baby.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 12

Bullsh#t, you have no idea how much my wife kicks me in bed.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

I am speaking as a breastfeeding mother who has successfully not crushed 2 babies.. And with thousands of cosleepers in agreement with me...

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

I strongly believe that if she had squeezed you out of her body and proceeded to nourish you from her breast, this would not be the case

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Ok, but what about the people who HAVE smothered their baby, People who aren't inebriated? This has to have happened.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

As a person who worked on the trauma team at a children's hospital people roll over and smother their children far to often. Please do not

10 years ago | Likes 227 Dislikes 25

In my culture co-sleeping always happens. I've never heard of any deaths caused by it (locally) and I have paediatricians in the family.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

This. Thank YOU!!!

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

My friend's 8 month old daughter died like this. It happens. If you do co-sleep, take every precaution you can. Your baby is worth it.

10 years ago | Likes 34 Dislikes 1

the best precaution is "dont fucking do it you shitbrain"

10 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 18

can you back that up with statistics and documents?

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 4

This, a million times, this.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Yeah a lot of this info seemed quite biased off "I DID IT!" That's great and all but the "if you're stoned, drunk etc..." Part was b.s.

10 years ago | Likes 20 Dislikes 3

wife's friends baby died this way.

10 years ago | Likes 27 Dislikes 3

I hate the 'I did it and it was fine, therefore the thing is fine' mentality that a lot of humans have

10 years ago | Likes 78 Dislikes 6

For me it's that I experienced both sides. Once, I was so tired I fell asleep rocking my baby to sleep trying not to co-sleep. I jerked 1/2

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

awake and she fell to the floor. I felt horrible! I'd rather safely co-sleep than be so tired I passed out unsafely. You don't know until2/3

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

you have a colicky baby just how tired you can get. 3/3

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

Funny thing is the last thing she post is to ignore the "Back in my day..." even when she posted her babysitting techniques here.

10 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 3

how about instead of telling parents not to co sleep, teach them how to co sleep safely? My mum co slept me and oh look im fucking alive

10 years ago | Likes 32 Dislikes 25

4 co-slept kids, 4 alive kids. You don't sleep deeply until they are out of your bed. I would wake up if they even shifted.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 5

I rode in the back of a pickup truck. Alive. My kids are in car seats.

10 years ago | Likes 38 Dislikes 1

Survivor bias, we don't hear from the dead babies

10 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

The safest way to do it is to NOT. FUCKING. DO. IT.

10 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 13

This is one of those "know thyself" situations. If you know that you are a restless sleeper...don't co-sleep.

10 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 5

It is so much more than that.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

[Citation needed]

10 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 30

They are the citation, son.

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 2

How the fuck is this person supposed to cite their personal experiences?

10 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 3

They are an anomynous person on the internet... Citation please.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 3

90% of what you see on the internet is written by some anon which cannot be verified. OP is as anon as @CadenTheGreat for example.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

If they're saying the truth, they're pretty much a primary source, so they'd be the one who others would cite.

10 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 3

1. that's what people are looking for. Verification of the truth. I don't doubt that some babies might have been smothered, but if he sees

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

They are an anomynous person on the internet... Citation please.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

"Before you can post about anything online, please show me your college and high school transcripts as well as your resume"

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

2. isn't really trustworthy, is it?

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Really depends on your definition of too often. 5 easily avoidable deaths is still too often, even if it's only 0,000005% of your(1)

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

2. 5 cases out of 100.000.000 couples, that isn't a 'far too often'. There is a need of statistics and research, just saying "way too often"

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Isn't this considered one of the leading causes of SIDS?

10 years ago | Likes 26 Dislikes 7

Maybe you are thinking of suffocation. SIDS is unexplained infant death.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

No, SIDS is actually less likely if you co-sleep.

10 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 3

The point of SIDS is that we really don't know and can only ASSUME. Which any rational person is the most dangerous mistake to make

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

No, SIDS has been linked to inner ear damage.

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 3

Ha!!

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Sauce? I've never heard this..I'm curious.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

As a person who co-slept with three tiny humans I can tell you that when sober you sleep protectively. Plus "ALL OF HUMAN FUCKING HISTORY"

10 years ago | Likes 39 Dislikes 45

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10 years ago (deleted Sep 17, 2017 12:13 PM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

did you miss the part where they said "Plus "ALL OF HUMAN FUCKING HISTORY""?

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 7

Look at other cultures. The majority cosleep successfully.

10 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 3

Thank you! Bunch of fucking fear mongers round here.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 5

THERE'S A REASON THE INFANT MORTALITY RATE WAS SO FUCKING HIGH YOU FUCKING DIPSHIT

10 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 14

I'm pretty sure only a tiny percentage of IMR was caused by co-sleeping. Just look up some history on IMR.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

The U.S. has one of the lowest co sleeping rates but highest number of SIDS deaths. 93% of India co-sleeps and has one of the lowest.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

We (US) also, by law, douse everything made for kids in flame retardant chemicals that they're made to wear and sleep face down on.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

You really took the time to reply, angrily, to nearly every comment on this thread. Passionate, I like that.

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

my wife is a nurse and sees entirely too many dead babies because parents thought they knew better than doctors and coslept with their baby

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

it was actually a lot of infanticide. Read Our Babies Ourselves by Meridith Small. Lota scholarly research.

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

It was a bunch of different things but basically all of them added up to "a shitload of dead babies"

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1