Feb 27, 2017 8:24 PM
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Hunglikehussein69
Good. Fuck these people
TheRealFrankTurpentine
Hahaha, fuck those guys
thebridgeisover
Omg it was just a joke!- these assholes
LiveWithHonorDieWithGlory
It's just a prank bro!
WelcomeToTheShatterdome
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
marniisgreen
YES. Actions have consequences.
WillWhetonsbrother
bye Felicia
MissDashLisa
How is this not top comment this is gold
hilroy246
I love this gif, never seen it before
TehSeksyManz
narushii
The sad part is that prison time has never helped anyone, it's just going to make them worse and more bitter.
BNFlover
Yeah, people were already assuming that the would atleast try and join aryan gangs. Guy's asshole will end up looking like a yawning hippo.
mightymorphinforeskin
Congratulations you played yourself
Ihazcheeseburger
Jesus. These two are pieces of shit but my god... They got longer prison sentences than that Canadian that bombed and killed 329 on a plane.
Promethianfire
I wish I could get inside the head of a person that does something like this. However maybe it's good that I can't.
GnarredGnarly
It was after the confederate flag was taken down. So in a fit they went around terrorizing black families, as they blamed the blacks.
danishjuggler21
You'd have plenty of room to move around in there.
sundaymondayhippyday
It's great you can't! The More You Didn't Know!
mechanicalchaos
A lot of it is culture. They're in a bubble of others behaving badly, like little kids without a proper parent. They think everyone feels it
And by culture I mean their own little circles, raised in an environment of hate, taught who to hate.
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
Your mistake is thinking there is anything there.
landofbob
Sadly, they are probably pretty normal people who got caught up in something. Probably environmental. Think about anything about which
you are passionate. it doesn't all make sense but you are still really into it.
Yeah, but I don't go up to people who prefer Star Wars with a shotgun and say I'm gonna shoot some sith tonight. They're not normal.
dreadpiratekhan
You can, though. All you need is an ice pick.
Attacker732
Nah, if you're skilled, you just need a fucking pencil.
Heyooo!
Yavin1v
its better if you can, as we all have the seeds of hatred in our hearts only if we are aware of that can we stop it from growing
TheGrumpest
truth right there
luvas
Thanks, Zenyatta.
iHumanity
Damn 35 years for the pair of them.
jesusfuckingchristwhatnameisnttaken4
Try living life being told you're inferior from the beginning and nothing you can do will ever give you hope of being anything else.
SidneyHarbor
Gun crimes are serious crimes.
Pandameter
Combined. 20 for the man and 15 for the woman, serving 13 and 6 respectively. So the guy has more than double the time esentially
doctorbees
Good.
timetCandyCat
dweadpiewitwobbits
Wowsers almost as harsh as what those filthy weed smokers get.
Heavymettle
Because jails are for profit. They want as many prisoners as they can, as long as they can, in as cheap of a condition as possible.
swinglinered
1/2 Only some are for profit. They are actually quite expensive to operate. The profit ones are private interests ...
2/2 paid with govt. money and also maybe some prison labor. The government has zero profit motive in this.
Blacklistedone
I think it's cause they charged them with gang violence and threats
SemiOriginalKit
Terrorists. Jail is right for them.
ISayFuckAllTheTime
Absolutely. But I have trouble reconciling this with people burning the american flag and screaming to destroy america not even being cited.
khora
Disorderly conduct?
Flyndaran
Because a flag and America isn't a real living person standing next to you.
Gotttt it. Clear and present danger to an actual person. Thank you for answering clearly and without hostility.
NuttierThanAJarOfGoobers
I don't usually laugh at other people's misfortune but
Automatvapen
Play stupid games, win stupid prices.
SimmaSinger
Or as my granny used to say- play with feathers, you get your bum tickled
Your grandma scares me.
Where I'm from "my granny used to say" is just a phrase for "there's an old saying". That said my family are very weird, so maybe she did.
WoodworkingIsLife
Not so much as a misfortune as it is justifiable karma. They got what they deserved. Start shit, get hit (with the law in their case).
FoxMulderSpecialAgent
I want to see a video of them crying.... please?
gr8whtd0pe
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/couple-sentenced-for-hate-crime-involving-confederate-flags/497957531
poronkusemania
The tears please me.
DMGuy
Perfect.
DeltaDin
Will my tears also work? (Look at my username).
Yes. I will use them to make a mighty lubricant
designmajor
You, I like you
I like you as well. Thanks for the taco wallpaper.
ShowMeYourGIFs
First I've heard of this story and I follow the news pretty regularly. This should be getting more attention so people don't pull this $#!+
cynthiafromco36
Ive never heard of this
TurtBurglar
Imagine they were Muslim terrorizing a white, Christian family? Then it would ve everywhere.
justlurkinfornow
Exactly! How I despise what the world is turning into. European here, with elections 2 weeks away and a nutjob rightwinger high in the polls
As an American... Come... Burn with us. JOIN US IN THE DEPTHS OF HELL!
ChallengerDeep
Criminals are so contrite when faced with consequences. Too bad they don't feel empathy when they're free and being douchebags.
IgnatiusJReilly2601
It's often the first time they realise that their actions actually do have consequences.
Not in this case, but would any of us recognize or accept actual regret in such a situation?
DelaysAction
Well that might be because your prison system does not really try to re-educate or rehabilitate your prisoners either.
TheQuackenman
Found that sauce http://www.ajc.com/news/local/judge-orders-stiff-sentences-for-two-douglasville-hate-crime/pHWEb5zXxdVqGBGxGNtorI/
KittyDreams4Real
This was the best article. More in-depth info.
OverpricedCrayon
are you really using "sauce" for something serious like this?
You're taking offense to that? Apologies- "source."
Not offended it's just cringey. Thank you for saying source
http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/shrg-1.gif
MrArthurRadley
I'm just sad it's 20 comments down.
CommanderNomNoms
play games stupid, stupid win prize
fixer66
Foagie
Me win stupid, give prize games
pynesol
Lol close enough. +1
sciencebasedlifeform
raggman
Zephronias
It took me three tries reading this before I realized you'd gotten it wrong.
That was the point haha
I... I can't tell if you did it wrong on purpose, or accident. I mean, it works...
Blanks56
You don't think it is, but it do
Molvanian
An attempt was made. +1.
ghostanom
Made attempt was ,1
foxfire1112
Please stop saying "this isn't about the flags" or "the flag isn't racist". Tell that to the people involved, they've made it racist
CaptainZebraman
I think you just combated your own argument.
For a flag that isn't racist; it sure does make an appearance at all the racist parties.
poorwhitetrash
I'M RELEVANT!
Ionlycommentcrap
Crap
unsubstantiatednonsense
You will ALWAYS be relevant.
mjkrukru
Sadly...
thishousesmellslikefish
You are a standard for something. The bottom of the barrel is something. It's a trash CAN not a trash cannot.
Joemamalina
Can i be relevant to ?
juggernaut1
Oh wow
Arsikere
*banjo music intensifies*
You relevant
TinySupreme
And if that ain't country I'll kiss your ass.
Kpyall
Is @eggwhitetrash taken?
theNameChecker
I bet if you're name was any other race you'd get called racist
frootoftheloops
...papa?
circlebreaker
Is your milk stored in a cool, wet sack?
YourMumKnowsMe
As long as bogans exist you will be relevant.
kins7
Yes you are.
Monticello19
Well yeah, you're most of the country now that income inequality has reached levels bigger than the great depression.
pawshytm
"I'm white trash and I'm in trouble!"
HungryPumpkn
"Now look at the camera and say 'I'm white trash, and I'm in trouble.'"
canyoureallychangethis
Screw you guys. I'm going home.
IDownvoteYourShit
"Oh I'm sorry. I thought this was America! "
Neurilax
Hi Relevant, I'm Dad!
seaisforcookieitsgoodenoughforme
Yes! Thank you.
TheMayorOfTittyCity
Then she says "This is not me, I would never say those things to you". Bitch you're in court because that IS you and you DID say those thing
woburn
The Mayor of Titty City has spoken
chalaheadchala
THANK YOU. This is what I've been saying the entire time about this scumbag.
OzzyKnight
Demon possession or am I watching too much supernatural?
PennnnnyLane
There's video evidence, you melon.
IFoldlyGo
Unless video evidence is contrary to what an officer said (even if the officer is on the video) - sigh
thereoncewasagirlfromstalbans
Thaaaat's Narcissism
greatlakesgirlsaresuperior
(no, it's not)
Y tho
To her credit, she did say "I take full responsibility for what I did" directly before that. Poor choice of words. Not that I believe her.
Razblaze
I bet when they get a appeal she gets a reduced sentence, but the guy w/ the firearm threatening them? He's fucked.
AxelBeingCivil
Taking full responsibility requires accepting blame and not trying to deflect it.
YUP
She takes full responsibility because she knows she's fucked and wants a lighter sentence, not because she's actually remorseful.
IGotTheMusicInMe425
Because she thinks that's what everyone wants to hear, she thinks those are the magic words that are going to make this easier on her.
agreed. she sounded like she was just saying whatever came to mind.
soso456
When people really taking full responsabilities on their acts usually never go on the illegal side. Oh irony
A lot of people do get off in life, as well as court, with pathetic half-assed apologies. Kept my idiot S.I.L. out of jail, mostly.
GRR. if only juries could be composed of people with a high bullshit tolerance...
Racists sure love to say "But I'm not REALLY racist!" after being really racist.
LANAAAAAAAA
They're not racist! They have a black friend!
5po0ky
You hear how "but, they're really good/nice people!" from everyone else that's the same skin color as them that know them. *No, they're not*
Messageforbobwehadababyitsaboy
" I'm not racist! I have, like, 2 black friends!"
MaskMan191
I don't see myself as racist, although I use a lot of racial slurs in jokes with my friends. I believe that if "cracker" is okay, 1/?
then "nigger" is too. Calling an African-American "black" was racist and insensitive until it wasn't because everyone did it. To stop 2/?
racial slurs from being racist, KEEP USING THEM TO YOUR HEART'S CONTENT. I call people faggots a lot, but I have nothing against gays. 3/?
On the contrary, my fucking grandpa is gay, some of my best friends are gay or bisexual. I use "faggot" and "nigger" because it's funny.
fattytunadouche
No, you're racist, sorry.
You're racist as well then. If you can go up to somebody and call them a racist for no reason, so can I. Eat a dick.
Ah yes, the classic I know you are but what am I defense.
SealandIsARealCountry
my MiL said she wasnt racist after calling interracial children zebras
billyunsnbillyuns
Some stuff is cultural though, my roomate from georgia never really noticed that his family used to substitute "Jury-rigged" with (1)
OldnSpicey
I am from a small rural town. I fucked that up once when I moved to Hartford, CT. I called someone Oreo because they loved cookies.
I had no idea they were mixed race and that was considered a slur :/
"Nigger-rigged" and never really noticed it until he hit college, apparently it was just a common saying in south georgia. (2)
Egad.
YamatoIouko
Some people lack the proper vocabulary to use non-racist terms.
CaptSheffield
So he was waving a gun when he said that? Oh, and you're an ass. Or is it a mule? Nah, ass it is.
some but others just dont associate some common colloquialisms with racist terms, especially when their society doesnt either. No indication
of lack of intelligence or proper vocabulary.
testedonsheeeeeep
They are not being racist, just politically incorrect.
If you have to say "it was just a joke, mate" It probably wasn't.
tanebou
They were being politically incorrect by waving guns and flags and slinging racial slurs, i.e. being racist.
TheManyFacedDog
I want a Merriam-Webster definition of Political Incorrectness if "killing N*ggers" is part of it.
EricFromAccounts
Nah, nice try though.
ratfaceddog
It's not that nice.
Yeah, it suddenly becomes "just a joke" as soon as people are called out on it. Then it's the target's fault for being "too PC".
*goes into a church and murders 9 elderly black churchgoers* "IT'S JUST A PRANK, BRO!"
fulminatrix
Schrödinger's racism.
In this version of the thought experiment, the cat is in a superposition of violently clawing you and then saying it's your fault.
"buh huh uhu I didn't know being a racist fuckwad would have any consequences buh huh huh"
voltlunok
The worst part, I seriously expect someone to defend these two with a free speech argument, saying this is censorship or something...
I had this discussion yesterday. Free speech isn't absolute anyway (slander, defamation, inciting violence all chargeble offences).
And citing free speech as an argument FOR hate speech is really weird to me. Where I'm from discrimination is actually a chargeble offense.
Why wouldn't there be some kind of boundery on the 1st amendmet? The slippery slope argument shouldn't hold if protecting vulnerable groups.
sirbartonslady
which is hilarious because 1st amendment doesn't extend to hate speech.
bluejohnnyd
Check upthread. some grade-A sealioning going on up in here.
What TheGrumpest said. I don't know the term either.
basically pretending to be clueless to string a debate along
Ah okay, thank you! (I'm not American, not even native English speaker.)
pardon my ignorance, but sealioning? what, like the noise?
No, this stuff: http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/sea-lioning
I've definitely done that before... woops
Justag33k
The issue isn't about the flag, it's the whole waiving guns around and threatening to "kill the n_____s".... Getting what they deserve IMHO
smile4medaddy
They were part of an organized group who did this, zero sympathy.
zahnkem
The AB is gonna have some fun breaking them into their ranks
sitarhero
As if gun owners didn't already have a bad reputation, there are these fucking Degenerates.
johnvictor
Many thousands more gun owners violently commit no violent crime everyday! We know who we should lock up now! The cabbages!
Calling these twits cabbages is an insult to all cabbages. At least cabbage can become coleslaw.
mrcynic
No, it's definitely about the flag too
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whenthebioisjustright
You done digging?
photony
waving*
Well Shit. You're right. All I can say is that I am on a ton of painkillers. I'm a little surprised that is the only grammatical error
dischord01
Fuck tht flag
DrHouseSynch
I mean, the racist flag didn't help.
grumpylump
"but muh state's rights"
"But muh freedum of expreshun!" I don't really know what that flag represent and I'm from the south.
ameriki
It is an enemy flag just like an ISIS flag is an enemy flag.
Nivesnow
Flag has a lot to do with it lol
Bogwoppit77
Does the H = humble? Or something else?
Junglebear
Honest.
Thanks
MrPredator
Agreed. The flag itself aside, I'm glad these assholes got what they deserved.
MrBananaBeak
Nah it's a little about the flag too.
tzap
I'm perplexed how the flag is brought up first everywhere. Apparently waving a gun around, shouting "I'll kill you niggers" is not that bad.
CraftedLine
So would it be terroristic threats if a few black guys did this to me, or would it be kids doing stupid things?
DidItForScience
It would be terroristic threatening. Though they probably wouldn't use confederate flags. Just the weapons and murder threats part.
Still blows my mind that someone would do such a thing at a kids party. May something else, outside of the party, happened
jonbristow
naggers?
OscarWao
If they were shouting racist epithets you bet your ass it was about those damn flags. Being for the confederacy is unpatriotic.
What did they think would happen?!
"the issue isn't about the flag" i mean, now it is. Do you think the kids at the party are thinking "ya that flag is cool tho"
It's not like people ever associate something bad with just one terrifying, traumatizing event. Nope, not at all.
XLNB
The issue is all of those things + the flag of treasonous defeat.
JustinBoz
It's about the flag AND waiving guns around and threatening to "kill the n_____s."
ThisWorldMakesMeSad
So what you're saying is the title is not nearly as descriptive as it should have been?
Shocking I know. It's almost like they wanted attention focused on the confederate flag instead
ITalkAboutGoats
Wait wait wait, what is it that these people who statistically voted for Trump say? "He won, get over it?" Irony.
Hobbescs
Statistically, racist people voted for trump. People who voted for trump are; however, not statistically racist.
That's what I said.
It's does tend to be a VERY common component of racefuckery.
WholesomeCrackwhoresForSale
just write "niggers" you pussy
badfitz99
You can get banned for saying it. Not worth saying.
nineteen85
Why can someone get 20 years for assault and terrorist threats, but get less time for murder or rape? Ah I forgot...good lawyers.
HughManSir
Who the hell wants to kill all the ninjas?!
TheMadOnion
The samurai, duh.
lovelightandgrace
Yup, fuck these people.
I thought you weren't supposed to stick your dick in crazy...?
DoctorWh0m
Also, pointing shotguns at children.
gelirollking
No. Once they are locked up with the gangster moms n dads that can't be with their kids...that's when they will get what they deserve.
TheGuardianFox
Agreed completely. From what I see, these are the kinds of people that actually deserve to be called 'racist' and thrown in jail.
leodavinci1
Did you just say someone should be thrown in jail simply because they're racist?
No, their actions are what rightfully landed them in jail.
Finain
Hehe dare them to say they're gonna "kill those n*****s in prison...
Idonthavealottosay
I see you are also not black
No. Just cos you can't say the n word
Ahh
They're going to have to be separated from gen. pop. unless they want them to be killed on their first night.
... I'm torn between suggesting throwing them to the wolves, or keeping them out of it. They are despicable, but they're still human.
Go toward the gen. pop., I'm remorseless enough saying throwing them to the wolves I got you too.
Humanish
fakepointgenerator
Im sure they'd fit right in with a certain group.
OmenIcarus
The superior group? ;]
ColonelBatGuano
Dude is going to have a whole mess of swastika face tattoos in a few years.
cryborg
Their story is going to be talked about in the prison before they get there. I think they are going to have a bad time.
If you get famous enough. Flogal was a little to infamous for prison life.
LavaAxe
Depends, there are white supremacist groups in prison too. Aryan brotherhood etc.
justrokkit
"All.. guns.. are... CANCELED!!!!!"
Wilshaxspur
35 years for waving a flag and shouting out hate? Seems overkill.
Well, threatening to kill people and brandishing weapons might have had something to do with it too.
yeah but still. you get less for actually killing people
It really depends on who it is and the circumstances. There are lots of people doing 25 to life or life w/o parole.
orangedoorhinge
i mean the issue is thats basically what the flag represents, the civil war was fought over slavery of black americans
IntergalacticElephant
The civil war was not fought solely over slavery. The north had slaves just like the south did. Read more than a pc textbook about it.
Secession... due to slavery, but secession. If the Southern states hadn't seceded, there wouldn't have been a civil war. At least not then.
DrKriegersClone
Assuming Bannon doesn't convince Trump to pardon them, that is.
Was it Federal?
TheSpellingNazi
The issue is also incorrect spelling.
MaynardJamesKeememe
"Still calmer than you are, dude." -Walter Sobchak
LetMePickMyTeethThenHaveMoreChips2
These pretty ladies are going to get anal sexed.
In a female prison?
35 years
hrtshthrt
it's 35 YEARS for just few words and piece of cloth with an image on it.
spetcnaz
How much of a useless, waste of oxygen can one be to do this. Like you hurt your own kids and for what? My head hurts just reading about it.
theyar
I remember when the story first came out, there was some suggestion that it really was just people driving around with flags, and that 1/2
the slurs and guns were exaggeration. But I don't know and I guess there's video evidence. 2/2
Bortus
Ah, thought prison time was a little far for flag waving.
inkpod
That behavior is growing in today's climate, where the President regularly disparages people based on religion, race and nationality
heylookitsmyusername
The flag IS an issue, because it is a symbol for the second half of your sentence
Babuk
Ok what you wrote is hard but I don't think that spending 35 years in jail because of that will make those people change their opinions.
mellino19
ahh I love posts with out of text title, thanks Justag
mustachefleas
CNN even said it was connected to the church shooting simply because they both has confederate flags
MyFunFactsAreLies
You meant a nazis right?
DukeDarkwood
The guys these people are emulating were before the Nazis, by about 60-70 years.
hoboispope
They go by alt-right now
Devante
Why would someone want to kill the neanderthals?
johnsza
Yeah I'm glad. Being a dick doesn't deserve jail time. Aggravated assault on the other hand does.
Rikuyo
Those ninjas had it coming!
I see that you are not black.
SFCrawNik
Don't ruin @OP's hidden agenda.
Or yours: to pretend the confederate flag isn't a racist symbol of hate.
Man, your reading comprehension skills are on point!
A secession movement that arose because somebody threatened to take their slaves away. Yeah totally not racist.
DarkwingDuc
That and forming a roving gang, driving around with a convoy of seven trucks, threatening and harassing people for two days, (1/2)
Damn, were they TRYING to get arrested or shot?
UmamiMama
Serious? Wtf is wrong with people!
Racists are free to frolic on today's climate where the President regularly disparages people based on religion, race and nationality
Seems like our country lost all sense of empathy. It's frankly disgusting.
LordSithis
Only the minority that the media latches onto.
Cayowin
Not all empathy, jut that no media coverage of the 349 999 999 people who did not commit a race based crime in america
(2/2) culminating by brandishing a shotgun at a child's birthday party - They're terrorists, plain and simple.
tommyfearn
You are 100% correct
GooBa25
So BLM is a terrorist organization as well
You don't seem too bright
You don't seem to do your research on the organization
aevansk1177
This..
sweatypepperoni
But the media can't/won't label them that way because...well, you know.
skierman25
That would be fake news
Freemage69
At least the jury and prosecutor did--'terroristic threats' was part of both convictions.
TheWuggening
Terroristic threats has nothing to do with terrorism, oddly enough. My father was charged with that.
That's good. Forgive me, I haven't read the story/ies fully.
RandomStranger55
But are they -terrorists-?
MotionOfTheOcean
Well, partypooping a black kid's bd party with confederate flags is kinda icky already, albeit what you recounted IS worse.
MrWolfwood
Only by a SMIDGE....yeesh
annaZon
I'm obviously sad it happened for the kid and family, but I also honestly feel giddy reading about those fuckers being sentenced.
UnevenElephant
You're part of the problem too. I hate racists, but that isn't healthy thinking. Justice was served though. (young minority here)
Well, they did threaten the kids and call them with n-words and that they should die too. (I live in Europe and the length of sentence 1/2
is doing that to me too, as we rarely even see that long sentences.) But them being judged guilty sounds about right with little doubt. 2/2
philopsyche
Waving the Confederate flag is free speech, saying "kill those _____." Is incitement. If you're going to be an asshole know the laws first
I didn't say it is directly illegal. If it is done in someone else's private event in intimidating way, it might be. Could I ask how I 1/2
was asshole? It was not intended definitely or was your comment directed at someone else?. 2/2
Uh... The people who got arrested?
I agree that it's bad form. Especially since it was only a little while after the Dylan Roof shooting. But that alone isn't cause for (1/2)
prufock
Bad form. You are a master of understatement.
Well, there are likely laws against intimidation and disturbing the peace. And possibly implied threats without actually brandishing.
Incarceration. But add them all together and you have the redneck equivalent of a street gang terrorizing children. That'll land you in jail
BluBoxx
Disorderly conduct is a misdemeanor.
CiaphasWho
That's the idea. When someone acts like this, you make an example of them. That way everyone else knows you'll get a severe punishment.
Yeah, I agree with you!
Nihelus
It may not be enough for prison time but being a dick with those flags absolutely is enough to arrest for disorderly conduct.
And hopefully fines too.
Nothing you said make me think of this flag and what it represent is anything but racist
Ansatsunin
...?
KaJuN
Not that what the did is OK, but they got harsher penalties than if they killed people while driving drunk. Our justice system is fucked.
icantbelievemynamewastaken
I'm not sure the solution is to give them less time as to give DUI more time. Pot dealers get more time than child molesters & rapists
Priorities are all screwed up. There was a fatal crash that ended up being the driver's 12th DUI. How the hell was he still walking free??
throwaway360
At least the drunk person could blame being drunk for their stupid actions, you get more time for consciously doing something, usually?
pontiacgirl75
Yeah but a person that went drinking and then driving also made the conscious decision to do so, so a drunk driver is a wouldbe killer
wendellsanders
Even if you make that step in thinking criminal law severity hinges heavily on mens rea. That's why mitigating circumstances are a thing.
tercicatrix
To be clear: You're upset that a 'street gang' terrorizing people and threatening to *murder* them got worse penalties than manslaughter?
Yes. In this case no lives were lost. Had people been killed I would support even harsher penalties than a normal murder.
TwoBoobs
Probably as an example, no? I'm just assuming, but maybe it's to prevent other people from doing things like that?
I get the feeling the judge is making an example of them in this case.
JenkemLazerSkeet
agree 100%, they got more time than an actual murderer. Yea they deserved jail, but that's ridiculous.
I think that if you threaten to murder people, you should be treated like a murderer.
ColbyBrooks
Its not ridiculous for the sentence they got, its ridiculous that drunk driving gets so little.
PresidentOfTheUnitedSteaks
Agreed, but what are you gonna do about it here? Have you seen these comments? People made their minds already.
Yea I've even see a few comments advocate rape and other violence against them in prison. Sometimes the people on here scare me.
Senko13
Agreed, this is a shitton of cost on taxpayers for a crime that boils down to hurt feelings. US justice system is an oddball indeed.
They were waving a gun around and shouting "I'll kill you niggers" and stuff like that. It's basically terrorism.
kojenk
They were aiming guns at the party goers and children, threatening their lives verbally & saying "the kids will get some too"
whycantweallsmokeupandbehappy
What a freaking dick move. You don't mess with someones kid. I hate people. Do not mess with kids! Fucking ass hats.
Imagine having a b-day party and some asshats come along with guns and threaten to kill your kind. Damn worst b-day party for the kid.
TheAfroClam
But...but...but EVERYONE is someone's kid
kmikl
... your point? I mean, it's not appropriate to do this, at all.
And obviously you understand humor and sarcasm.
Poe's law.
YourMomsNewBoyfriend
Haha in my head it sounds like your saying "i mean I'm racist but KIDS!? Come on!"
oldarchive
I mean, even if you are racist don't fuck with someone else's kids, said for both whites and blacks.
Even evil has standards.
lol No! That part sucks too, but damn. You they are such dicks that even a kids birthday party is fair game. Id like to "talk" to them both.
So when are we gonna tell buggy?
"Talk"
Yeap!
spookyactionatadistance
The guys name is Jose Ismael Tores.
KharnApproves
I read that an immediately wondered how stupid he is. I mean, obviously he's pretty stupid, but damn.
dhcollecting
Torres*
His name is Jose Ismael Tores.
Attaroo
Yeah, I'm guessing he didn't attend many of those KKK or neo-confederate soirees.
You don't have to be white to be a white supremacist. Also there are white Latinos.
SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE
And literal Nazis still living in South America.
MalePatternBlackness
Surprisingly enough neo nazi prison gangs ally with Mexican gangs.
elementaryschoollibrarian
OMG the big babies!
Just saying, you'd probably cry too if you got told your life was being flushed.
baronramsey
serves those cunts right though haha, don't wanna be raped in prison? How about you don't be a terrorist piece of racist shit?
Man you guys love being on your high horses about racism while 2nd degree murderers are getting less time for literally murder.
Duskiewastaken
this
You racist or something? Just because one thing is fucked up doesn't mean their punishment isn't deserved. Shut yo stupid racist ass up.
I'm not racist actually, I just don't see how that's all that "just" like all you dodos are screeching.
But way to jump in and play that card, it shines on your character.
totally agree
frankbarista
Welp now they can celebrate all the racist shit they want with the Arayan Brothers in jail i guess
disinfectantrum
The fucked up thing is that even most Kindred aren't down with fucking with kids, black or not.
BrotherhoodOfTheTaco
The dudes name is Jose Ismael Torres. ...TORRES. Im not sure if he'll get in.
MostUninterestingManInTheWorld
Could be Spaniard, a lot of them get lumped in as white Hispanics but they are just as white as the Smiths and O'Reilly's.
CthulhusGreasyBallsack
JOSE TORRES, WHITE SUPREMACIST. HAHAHAHA
Well shit
Fr3nulum
...JOSE
ProsperosLament
gonna come out more racist and with organizational backing
BlindyBlindMansSonnySon
He'll prob get more racist but if you want protection from the brotherhood you gotta work for the brotherhood, he will get more and more 1
time in prison. 2
they were already part of an organization. that's how they were charged with gang terrorism.
...I don't think the brotherhood will let Jose Torres in.
Aint that fucking beautiful...smh
illmissyou
The grand irony here - the harsh sentence comes from laws designed to target gangs in black communities. How's that for equal treatment.
It's pretty awesome in my opinion
RocketRodster
Maybe, but out 15 people indicted, only the Cuban and his baby momma get time
PlaceboNine
BugNotAFeature
doodoobailey
steveowashere
I'm sorta glad that the man got a terrorism charge, unlike the white guy who shot up that mosque in Canada. Terrorism applies to all races.
IronyHighScore
High score!
tehzpoon
That feels good on my balls.
Clearly it wasn't designed for black communities considering they are being charged with it.
azgrak
Irony, try 300 hrs of community service for an*ly raping someone with a coat hanger. No jail time and no sex offender registry. John Howard.
It's not Irony but it is disgusting that someone only gets community service for raping.
He had an aggravated assault charge as well. So, you know, another, very bad crime that she wasn't charged with.
TurtleOnTheRocks
I bet the man was the one with the gun
observationalist
Hah. Fucking typical. We females are always assumed to have less agency. To just be dumb helpless little followers. We evil, you hear me??
SensualRobotPorn
Lol, dunno why you're getting downvotes. +1 I tried.
wonder89
she has children by him they usually factor that in
That's bullshit. If they don't wanna be away from their kids, they shouldn't do stupid shit.
I think it's more about the kids being without parents than it is about them not wanting to be away from the kids.
To be clear, fuck these assholes. It's their fault their kids will be without them, but it sucks that the kids have to go through that.
He was the one with the gun. He got an extra charge - aggravated assault.
STGxDante
They were kind of terribly racist. You know they could have not done it. It's not like speeding, it was a planned out act to terrorize race.
BigDaddysMeatWagon
Terrorizing is threatening a group with violence and pain to control them with fear. This was clearly terrorism.
theplopperplopper
Kind of? I think society's views of racism and terrorism are very dimmed down in the sense of severity of such acts.
PoliAsh
Pretty sure that was just Internet politeness. No sane person will say that what these people did was extreme racism and evil
JustCallMeJazzHands
I'd say it's quite equal.
bengalhoel40
There is nothing equal about that sentence.
Even if it is separate?
Well, according to the Court's ruling in Plessy v Ferguson...
Rasui
Yeah, this is actually my #1 problem with this. I agree with the verdict but using patriot act and anti-gang laws is overreaching and wrong.
Why is it ok to use those laws against black people but not these people?
The reason I have a problem with this is that I've personally been a victim of these laws. You see I happen to live in Georgia. 1/?
Ah, the old "He doesn't agree so he must be the opposite position" argument. How about, they aren't right to use on anyone inappropriately?
I'm sorry that happened too you. But these people were definitely acting very much like a gang. Personally I don't agree with the sentences
in either case. But it especially pisses me off that we level them disproportionately on minorities.
One day a drunk redneck came up to me in a bar and tried to start a fight for literally no reason. After a little shoving started by him 3/?
Because some redneck picked a fight I nearly lost my future. It's not okay to stretch laws regardless of who you're targeting. 10/10
Point here is that I have a personal problem with abusing laws and overreaching on account of nearly getting my life ruined by it 9/?
The charges ended up getting dropped because I literally did nothing and actually would have gotten a lower charge for punching the dude 8/?
So he backs off but the cops of course show up anyway and start asking what happened. I tell my story truthfully (Stupid me right?) 5/?
I told him to back off or I was going to quote "Break his fucking hands." It was around this point that someone called the cops 4/?
Of course none of that mattered to dickhead redneck cop and I got to spend the night in jail and have a high bail due to the felony. 7/?
It was shortly after the Patriot Act was passed and all of the good ol' boy local cops were enjoying abusing their newfound powers. 2/?
And promptly get arrested for "Terroristic Threats," which I should mention is a FELONY CHARGE DESIGNED TO COMBAT TERRORISM! 6/?
SCHADENFREUDE! GITCH'R SCHADENFREUDE RIGHT HERE!!!
ohwaitwassheagreatbigfatperson
I like me some schadenfreude
Hot and fresh, just like Mutter used to make.
jackalwsu3
And a side of breadsticks!
Burke616
Fresh and piping hot, or best-served-cold, we got all kinds!
shittttyy
They committed a hate crime so it's a normal sentence. . .
Actually, Georgia lacks a hate crime law. They got busted for several other offenses, though.
Of course. Why would Georgia need hate crime laws? They've always had a great, minority-friendly community.
I could swim through the sarcasm in this comment.
Be careful you don't fall into the sarcasm, it's a long way down.
ShaggyParks
Calling a violent crime a "hate crime" is a misnomer. Crimes should be judged by the severity of the action, not the motivation.1/2
ArcipluvianCosmicGallows
1) That's not what a misnomer is. 2) Crimes should definitely be judged by intent. Negligent manslaughter isn't nearly as bad as murder.
My comment is about motive with regard to murder, not manslaughter. Also, misnomer means a wrong/ inaccurate name. Words mean things.
By that logic, we would punish a thief less for stealing food to eat. No. Equal punishment. How you *think* is not punished; its how you act
Uh, we *do* punish thieves less if they're only stealing essentials to survive. That's a valid reason to steal. Intent is weighed.
Cite your source in law or US code.
Don't get me wrong. I think these people are the scum of the earth. But our constitution protects the right to have stupid opinions. And its
Very un-American & unconstitutional to attempt to punish opinions. We punish actions. Even in court, motive is only used to prove that the
The constitution does protect the right to have stupid opinions. It does not protect the right to commit crime for your stupid opinions.
andaction
By your 'logic' someone who intentionally kills someone is the same as someone who accidentally kills someone. Um ... nope.
Manslaughter & murder are different. All murders are hate crimes. We should not punish murder more or less harshly based on motive. 1/2
Saying all murders are hate crimes is over simplification. There are murders done for reasons other than hate/anger/etc.
It places more value on that murder's motive than it does on the victim's life. I don't think that is a good thing. Murder is murder.
Look up "Voluntary Manslaughter". It is intentional but not premeditated.
Thanksforallofthememeries
OMFG, thank you! I was trying to find a better way of saying "lots more blacks in jail for the same thing," but not... that...way
Nicalanius
Good try tho
diedrichm0319360
Sometimes I'm scared to talk talk to black people, because I may say something racist. Like, sometimes I'm scared to talk to black people
smittyA97
Lol I'm not going to pretend to speak for all black people here, but I personally don't mind a few conversational blunders. No one's perfect
Most race barriers are put in place by those who cannot accept full equality, but that goes for everyone.
sunyudai
It sounds like you care more about this than they do. Don't worry about accidentally saying something racist, just don't be an asshole.
It was a joke.meant to laugh at not trying to start a race war. FYI beige will win. "My gut say's maybe"
Easy player, drunk and joking here, not sober and cynical
I was aiming for a "Nah, chill out dude" tone of voice. Text isn't good for this kind of thing, as we both misread each other's intent.
AyeVey
As a black individual, please do say it. We often get away with so much
Screw your down voting, take my +1.
That seemed more angry and racist than intended
IshitOnWindshields
Its not. Us black folks get a pass on too much
Sometimes. A lot do get extreme punishments for minor infractions though like possession of a joint or similar.
ScuseMeWhileIWhipThisOut
Here's the sauce... http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/pair-sentenced-terrorizing-birthday-confederate-flags-article-1.2983749
Killingthemnotsosoftly
My hero
VodkaReindeer
"Georgia does not have a hate crime statute." Oh dear.
SpartaWolf117
thank you
Winterous
Well, that's interesting.
CardinalXim
Wait, Georgia has no hate crime legislation? Man that's messed up.
pogofo
Thank you!
lightningbeforethunder
Holy shit they got 35 years
TUGboatJOB
No, combined 35 years. He got 20 which only 13 jail time and she got 15, only 6 jail time.
jeromygride
.
hanabakemono
Thanks, I was really confused and had no idea where to start looking on Google. Legit, you're awesome. :>
OhNoItsMarco
You deserve more upvotes
Astrangeimageeveryday
Thank fren
GustavoShrapnel
Thx, not sure why it's not in the post.
hookerbot5000
so he get's 13 years and she gets 6? not exactly equal punishment for the same crime.....
CANADIANMIST
I grew up in Douglasville. This is unfortunately pretty common.
GJ with finding the link but is it really necessary to use the word "sauce" for something serious like this?
i like how many teenagers ive made upset
IbukiOnTheScene
go sauce yourself
"Something serious like this" and you're complaining about the word "sauce"? And then you wonder about downvotes. Not too bright, eh?
Eichimaru
Something so serious requires only the finest puttanesca
darkyokuo
Thanks for the link
HeavilyBearded
Genuinely curious why the women serves half the time in prison compared to the man, the father to her kids and husband, lover, or cousin.
Because he was the one with the gun and received an additional charge.
Ah! From the sound of it, it seemed as though they were both armed but I may have just misread. Thanks for the info!
PxC4
Saw the letters "LAS" on her prison garb, internally hopes it doesn't say "DALLAS", reads the story, breathes a sigh of relief.
I'm from Texas and was hoping these idiots weren't from Dallas, Texas.
zoomist
Do you know where I can watch the video?
unclestankstank
Man, that article needs to be edited...
Dude, just watch the video instead! (lol)
Wastyvez
Holy shit that judge was not fucking around.
LachyRK
Or a judge that actually has compassion not everything is about race.
Bopjick
I agree
This is a case of "making example of to deter further idiots"
SupraLove
Honestly, I looked at the sentence and had to double take to make sure I read it right! Although harsh, it is rightfully so.
seahorseCaravan
The headline is so misleading. The sentence wasn't for waiving the Confederate flag. Such bait
TitaniumTeddyBear
Thank you, Captain.
Thruen
35 years Holy shit! You get 12 for murder in Finland lol.
captainfuckingobvious
Interesting side note: her eyes look waaaay to close together
Don't worry, there are no VR glasses in prison.
Prolly the incest
IReactToCommentsInMemesAndGifs
I thought the same
35 years? Danm!
Deepdeepwell
Is it a joke when people write sauce? Instead of source ?? I see it all the time, just wondering if it's a play on words??
Cheers, I liked that
Yes, it's a play on the word "source". Welcome to Imgur, I hope you enjoy your stay.
Ashrinkingdadbod
Welcome to the internet, newfriend.
Mikeiller
Sometimes people do stupid things because they think they're being funny
JustLetMeInAlreadyFFS
Georgians you say? I got the solution right here
OdysseusLost
He used the same slash and burn everything tactic against Native Americans and organized the mass slaughter of 5 million buffalo. Fuck him.
blessedarethecheesemakers
connorcat
As a proud Southerner...thank you. That's glorious.
Its a little rough but I couldn't resist. Thanks for being a good sport about it!
Oh I think it's kinda stupid to take things like that personal. I loved it!
hammersquirrel
You might be interested to know the M4A3R3 Sherman tank had a turret mounted flamethrower
Johnbarelykorn
I know, the Duke and me was really close.
jule22112
A guy name Jose Ismael Torres was waving around a confederate flag um I'm confused
allaeblafuebtehabiaunchorrito
Same thing I was going to say... I mean, that is one big fucking latino name. Racism and stupid is universal regardless of race, and creed.
Dugalug
I think he's confused.
coffetangent436
In all respect can you tldr for me. I'm drunk and not in the mood to read a lot but also Interested in what happened
Moobbles
Title says it all.
BuiltLikeATruckCuddlyLikeATeddyBear
black kid's b-day "♫Happy birthday to y..." CONFEDERATE-FLAGGY-TRUCK-VROOOOOM "We're gonna kill those n***ers!" "No, you're going to prison"
My dad is hispanic and racist as fuck. Just 'cause lots of whites group anyone browner than they are in the same club doesn't make it so.
Essseff
Mine too, any chance hes cuban?
WhiskersVonHoppyhopsthe3rd
It's Hispanics overall, my mom is Nica and she's racist as fuck. Same goes for my dad
SpeakerToMeat
I know a Latin American (Latino) gay guy who was a neo Nazi in the early 90s
eetsumkaus
if there's anything history has taught us, hating Jews somehow transcends skin color
marcj83
Anti-blackness is global.
mormacil
Well among some Caribbean communities the darker you are the less you are. So I guess that is anti blackness among blakc people?
LeighS79
Anti-race is global... works in all directions
I thought the same, when he goes to prison he's gonna be so confused on which gang to join to protect him. Whites or Latinos, who knows?
JTstupidhead
What if he changes his name to joseph thompson.
smallskillerofhambino
Robert Paulson
LosRod
*Joseph Towers
PornhubsFirstTree
Then he can blame autocorrect.
bruudwin
**Joseph (White) Powers
shane201
Well the name Torres has Portuguese and Spanish origins. His roots could be Spaniard or Portuguese which both fall under European.
imhoots
Yeah, but they aren't.
Lysop
Is his second name also Spanish/Portuguese? I know it as an middle eastern name. Just a question.
Yes.
RanchoCucamonga
Latinos aren't really a race imho. There are very white blonde haired Latinos
Self loathing is ugly, "Rancho Cucamonga"
SimoE
You don't have to be blonde to be white. Look at people from southern Europe and the middle east.
Gustie13
35 years?? Holy fuck! You can kill someone and not get that much.
Two of them together and not all will be served.
Why did the man get 13 years but the woman got 6?
freshpineapplejuice
And this wasn't the first time he pulled some shit
bbscshirk101
Aggravated assault.
Vaanhalen
They literally would be better off doing actual murder instead of "threatening it" holding a conf. flag. That seems backwards
Their combined sentance adds up to 35 years.
Jrex42
The sentence seems way too harsh for the crime ... and yet I feel no sympathy for them. Who the fuck does that???
flapperfemmefatale
i actually think they got off easy. they shouldn't get parole.
sharon838
The headline is misleading. It's 35 combined. He got 20 and she got 15 to serve 6 in prison. I agree with you. 35 would have been too harsh
tcgl
They threatened to kill children - I think they got a very fair sentence, actually. Too bad they won't actually be rehabilitated, though.
You're right, I read a summary. More details makes it worse. More than fair. Fuck them.
Really? Because they'd get less time for actually killing a couple people. Don't get me wrong in not pro south but come on
So does that mean THIS sentence is unfair, or does that mean a murder sentence is unfair?
Nobody7713
Yeah I'm okay with throwing the fucking book at people who shout "Kill the n****ers* at children and wave shotguns at them.
They're likely to come out of jail even MORE racist and hateful, and with new criminal connections. We need prison reform so badly!
You should watch american history x
You can't count on a movie coming true. But it is a great movie
FacemanPeck
Word will get out what they did and the blacks will all want retaliation and the whites will protect them.
And by whites I of course don't mean just normal cool whites but like the Aryan brotherhood kind of whites.
Well good thing the POTUS wants to expand the private prison system! /Sigh
Yeah.....so many things that POTUS and I disagree on, I wouldn't know where to begin.
Hunglikehussein69
Good. Fuck these people
TheRealFrankTurpentine
Hahaha, fuck those guys
thebridgeisover
Omg it was just a joke!- these assholes
LiveWithHonorDieWithGlory
It's just a prank bro!
WelcomeToTheShatterdome
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
marniisgreen
YES. Actions have consequences.
WillWhetonsbrother
MissDashLisa
How is this not top comment this is gold
hilroy246
I love this gif, never seen it before
TehSeksyManz
narushii
The sad part is that prison time has never helped anyone, it's just going to make them worse and more bitter.
BNFlover
Yeah, people were already assuming that the would atleast try and join aryan gangs. Guy's asshole will end up looking like a yawning hippo.
mightymorphinforeskin
Congratulations you played yourself
Ihazcheeseburger
Jesus. These two are pieces of shit but my god... They got longer prison sentences than that Canadian that bombed and killed 329 on a plane.
Promethianfire
I wish I could get inside the head of a person that does something like this. However maybe it's good that I can't.
GnarredGnarly
It was after the confederate flag was taken down. So in a fit they went around terrorizing black families, as they blamed the blacks.
danishjuggler21
You'd have plenty of room to move around in there.
sundaymondayhippyday
It's great you can't! The More You Didn't Know!
mechanicalchaos
A lot of it is culture. They're in a bubble of others behaving badly, like little kids without a proper parent. They think everyone feels it
mechanicalchaos
And by culture I mean their own little circles, raised in an environment of hate, taught who to hate.
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
Your mistake is thinking there is anything there.
landofbob
Sadly, they are probably pretty normal people who got caught up in something. Probably environmental. Think about anything about which
landofbob
you are passionate. it doesn't all make sense but you are still really into it.
BNFlover
Yeah, but I don't go up to people who prefer Star Wars with a shotgun and say I'm gonna shoot some sith tonight. They're not normal.
dreadpiratekhan
You can, though. All you need is an ice pick.
Attacker732
Nah, if you're skilled, you just need a fucking pencil.
Promethianfire
Heyooo!
Yavin1v
its better if you can, as we all have the seeds of hatred in our hearts only if we are aware of that can we stop it from growing
TheGrumpest
truth right there
luvas
Thanks, Zenyatta.
iHumanity
Damn 35 years for the pair of them.
jesusfuckingchristwhatnameisnttaken4
Try living life being told you're inferior from the beginning and nothing you can do will ever give you hope of being anything else.
SidneyHarbor
Gun crimes are serious crimes.
Pandameter
Combined. 20 for the man and 15 for the woman, serving 13 and 6 respectively. So the guy has more than double the time esentially
doctorbees
Good.
timetCandyCat
dweadpiewitwobbits
Wowsers almost as harsh as what those filthy weed smokers get.
Heavymettle
Because jails are for profit. They want as many prisoners as they can, as long as they can, in as cheap of a condition as possible.
swinglinered
1/2 Only some are for profit. They are actually quite expensive to operate. The profit ones are private interests ...
swinglinered
2/2 paid with govt. money and also maybe some prison labor. The government has zero profit motive in this.
Blacklistedone
I think it's cause they charged them with gang violence and threats
SemiOriginalKit
Terrorists. Jail is right for them.
ISayFuckAllTheTime
Absolutely. But I have trouble reconciling this with people burning the american flag and screaming to destroy america not even being cited.
khora
Disorderly conduct?
Flyndaran
Because a flag and America isn't a real living person standing next to you.
ISayFuckAllTheTime
Gotttt it. Clear and present danger to an actual person. Thank you for answering clearly and without hostility.
NuttierThanAJarOfGoobers
Automatvapen
Play stupid games, win stupid prices.
SimmaSinger
Or as my granny used to say- play with feathers, you get your bum tickled
Automatvapen
Your grandma scares me.
SimmaSinger
Where I'm from "my granny used to say" is just a phrase for "there's an old saying". That said my family are very weird, so maybe she did.
WoodworkingIsLife
Not so much as a misfortune as it is justifiable karma. They got what they deserved. Start shit, get hit (with the law in their case).
FoxMulderSpecialAgent
I want to see a video of them crying.... please?
gr8whtd0pe
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/couple-sentenced-for-hate-crime-involving-confederate-flags/497957531
poronkusemania
The tears please me.
DMGuy
poronkusemania
Perfect.
DeltaDin
Will my tears also work? (Look at my username).
poronkusemania
Yes. I will use them to make a mighty lubricant
designmajor
You, I like you
poronkusemania
I like you as well. Thanks for the taco wallpaper.
ShowMeYourGIFs
First I've heard of this story and I follow the news pretty regularly. This should be getting more attention so people don't pull this $#!+
cynthiafromco36
Ive never heard of this
TurtBurglar
Imagine they were Muslim terrorizing a white, Christian family? Then it would ve everywhere.
justlurkinfornow
Exactly! How I despise what the world is turning into. European here, with elections 2 weeks away and a nutjob rightwinger high in the polls
TurtBurglar
As an American... Come... Burn with us. JOIN US IN THE DEPTHS OF HELL!
justlurkinfornow
ChallengerDeep
Criminals are so contrite when faced with consequences. Too bad they don't feel empathy when they're free and being douchebags.
IgnatiusJReilly2601
It's often the first time they realise that their actions actually do have consequences.
Flyndaran
Not in this case, but would any of us recognize or accept actual regret in such a situation?
DelaysAction
Well that might be because your prison system does not really try to re-educate or rehabilitate your prisoners either.
TheQuackenman
Found that sauce http://www.ajc.com/news/local/judge-orders-stiff-sentences-for-two-douglasville-hate-crime/pHWEb5zXxdVqGBGxGNtorI/
KittyDreams4Real
This was the best article. More in-depth info.
OverpricedCrayon
are you really using "sauce" for something serious like this?
TheQuackenman
You're taking offense to that? Apologies- "source."
OverpricedCrayon
Not offended it's just cringey. Thank you for saying source
TheQuackenman
http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/shrg-1.gif
MrArthurRadley
I'm just sad it's 20 comments down.
CommanderNomNoms
play games stupid, stupid win prize
fixer66
Foagie
Me win stupid, give prize games
pynesol
Lol close enough. +1
sciencebasedlifeform
raggman
Zephronias
It took me three tries reading this before I realized you'd gotten it wrong.
CommanderNomNoms
That was the point haha
Attacker732
I... I can't tell if you did it wrong on purpose, or accident. I mean, it works...
Blanks56
You don't think it is, but it do
Molvanian
An attempt was made. +1.
ghostanom
Made attempt was ,1
timetCandyCat
foxfire1112
Please stop saying "this isn't about the flags" or "the flag isn't racist". Tell that to the people involved, they've made it racist
CaptainZebraman
I think you just combated your own argument.
jesusfuckingchristwhatnameisnttaken4
For a flag that isn't racist; it sure does make an appearance at all the racist parties.
poorwhitetrash
I'M RELEVANT!
Ionlycommentcrap
Crap
unsubstantiatednonsense
You will ALWAYS be relevant.
mjkrukru
Sadly...
thishousesmellslikefish
You are a standard for something. The bottom of the barrel is something. It's a trash CAN not a trash cannot.
Joemamalina
Can i be relevant to ?
juggernaut1
Oh wow
Arsikere
*banjo music intensifies*
sundaymondayhippyday
You relevant
TinySupreme
And if that ain't country I'll kiss your ass.
Kpyall
Is @eggwhitetrash taken?
theNameChecker
I bet if you're name was any other race you'd get called racist
frootoftheloops
...papa?
circlebreaker
Is your milk stored in a cool, wet sack?
YourMumKnowsMe
As long as bogans exist you will be relevant.
kins7
Yes you are.
Monticello19
Well yeah, you're most of the country now that income inequality has reached levels bigger than the great depression.
pawshytm
"I'm white trash and I'm in trouble!"
HungryPumpkn
"Now look at the camera and say 'I'm white trash, and I'm in trouble.'"
canyoureallychangethis
Screw you guys. I'm going home.
canyoureallychangethis
Screw you guys. I'm going home.
IDownvoteYourShit
"Oh I'm sorry. I thought this was America! "
Neurilax
Hi Relevant, I'm Dad!
seaisforcookieitsgoodenoughforme
Yes! Thank you.
seaisforcookieitsgoodenoughforme
Yes! Thank you.
seaisforcookieitsgoodenoughforme
Yes! Thank you.
seaisforcookieitsgoodenoughforme
Yes! Thank you.
seaisforcookieitsgoodenoughforme
Yes! Thank you.
seaisforcookieitsgoodenoughforme
Yes! Thank you.
TheMayorOfTittyCity
Then she says "This is not me, I would never say those things to you". Bitch you're in court because that IS you and you DID say those thing
woburn
The Mayor of Titty City has spoken
chalaheadchala
THANK YOU. This is what I've been saying the entire time about this scumbag.
OzzyKnight
Demon possession or am I watching too much supernatural?
PennnnnyLane
There's video evidence, you melon.
IFoldlyGo
Unless video evidence is contrary to what an officer said (even if the officer is on the video) - sigh
thereoncewasagirlfromstalbans
Thaaaat's Narcissism
greatlakesgirlsaresuperior
(no, it's not)
thereoncewasagirlfromstalbans
Y tho
thereoncewasagirlfromstalbans
Y tho
TheGrumpest
To her credit, she did say "I take full responsibility for what I did" directly before that. Poor choice of words. Not that I believe her.
Razblaze
I bet when they get a appeal she gets a reduced sentence, but the guy w/ the firearm threatening them? He's fucked.
AxelBeingCivil
Taking full responsibility requires accepting blame and not trying to deflect it.
TheGrumpest
YUP
DMGuy
She takes full responsibility because she knows she's fucked and wants a lighter sentence, not because she's actually remorseful.
IGotTheMusicInMe425
Because she thinks that's what everyone wants to hear, she thinks those are the magic words that are going to make this easier on her.
TheGrumpest
agreed. she sounded like she was just saying whatever came to mind.
soso456
When people really taking full responsabilities on their acts usually never go on the illegal side. Oh irony
Flyndaran
A lot of people do get off in life, as well as court, with pathetic half-assed apologies. Kept my idiot S.I.L. out of jail, mostly.
TheGrumpest
GRR. if only juries could be composed of people with a high bullshit tolerance...
AxelBeingCivil
Racists sure love to say "But I'm not REALLY racist!" after being really racist.
LANAAAAAAAA
They're not racist! They have a black friend!
5po0ky
You hear how "but, they're really good/nice people!" from everyone else that's the same skin color as them that know them. *No, they're not*
Messageforbobwehadababyitsaboy
" I'm not racist! I have, like, 2 black friends!"
MaskMan191
I don't see myself as racist, although I use a lot of racial slurs in jokes with my friends. I believe that if "cracker" is okay, 1/?
MaskMan191
then "nigger" is too. Calling an African-American "black" was racist and insensitive until it wasn't because everyone did it. To stop 2/?
MaskMan191
racial slurs from being racist, KEEP USING THEM TO YOUR HEART'S CONTENT. I call people faggots a lot, but I have nothing against gays. 3/?
MaskMan191
On the contrary, my fucking grandpa is gay, some of my best friends are gay or bisexual. I use "faggot" and "nigger" because it's funny.
fattytunadouche
No, you're racist, sorry.
MaskMan191
You're racist as well then. If you can go up to somebody and call them a racist for no reason, so can I. Eat a dick.
fattytunadouche
Ah yes, the classic I know you are but what am I defense.
SealandIsARealCountry
my MiL said she wasnt racist after calling interracial children zebras
billyunsnbillyuns
Some stuff is cultural though, my roomate from georgia never really noticed that his family used to substitute "Jury-rigged" with (1)
OldnSpicey
I am from a small rural town. I fucked that up once when I moved to Hartford, CT. I called someone Oreo because they loved cookies.
OldnSpicey
I had no idea they were mixed race and that was considered a slur :/
billyunsnbillyuns
"Nigger-rigged" and never really noticed it until he hit college, apparently it was just a common saying in south georgia. (2)
dreadpiratekhan
Egad.
YamatoIouko
Some people lack the proper vocabulary to use non-racist terms.
CaptSheffield
So he was waving a gun when he said that? Oh, and you're an ass. Or is it a mule? Nah, ass it is.
billyunsnbillyuns
some but others just dont associate some common colloquialisms with racist terms, especially when their society doesnt either. No indication
billyunsnbillyuns
of lack of intelligence or proper vocabulary.
testedonsheeeeeep
They are not being racist, just politically incorrect.
Blacklistedone
If you have to say "it was just a joke, mate" It probably wasn't.
tanebou
They were being politically incorrect by waving guns and flags and slinging racial slurs, i.e. being racist.
TheManyFacedDog
I want a Merriam-Webster definition of Political Incorrectness if "killing N*ggers" is part of it.
EricFromAccounts
Nah, nice try though.
ratfaceddog
It's not that nice.
AxelBeingCivil
Yeah, it suddenly becomes "just a joke" as soon as people are called out on it. Then it's the target's fault for being "too PC".
EricFromAccounts
*goes into a church and murders 9 elderly black churchgoers* "IT'S JUST A PRANK, BRO!"
fulminatrix
Schrödinger's racism.
AxelBeingCivil
In this version of the thought experiment, the cat is in a superposition of violently clawing you and then saying it's your fault.
TheGrumpest
"buh huh uhu I didn't know being a racist fuckwad would have any consequences buh huh huh"
voltlunok
The worst part, I seriously expect someone to defend these two with a free speech argument, saying this is censorship or something...
justlurkinfornow
I had this discussion yesterday. Free speech isn't absolute anyway (slander, defamation, inciting violence all chargeble offences).
justlurkinfornow
And citing free speech as an argument FOR hate speech is really weird to me. Where I'm from discrimination is actually a chargeble offense.
justlurkinfornow
Why wouldn't there be some kind of boundery on the 1st amendmet? The slippery slope argument shouldn't hold if protecting vulnerable groups.
sirbartonslady
which is hilarious because 1st amendment doesn't extend to hate speech.
bluejohnnyd
Check upthread. some grade-A sealioning going on up in here.
justlurkinfornow
What TheGrumpest said. I don't know the term either.
bluejohnnyd
basically pretending to be clueless to string a debate along
justlurkinfornow
Ah okay, thank you! (I'm not American, not even native English speaker.)
TheGrumpest
pardon my ignorance, but sealioning? what, like the noise?
bluejohnnyd
No, this stuff: http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/sea-lioning
TheGrumpest
I've definitely done that before... woops
Justag33k
The issue isn't about the flag, it's the whole waiving guns around and threatening to "kill the n_____s".... Getting what they deserve IMHO
smile4medaddy
They were part of an organized group who did this, zero sympathy.
zahnkem
The AB is gonna have some fun breaking them into their ranks
sitarhero
As if gun owners didn't already have a bad reputation, there are these fucking Degenerates.
johnvictor
Many thousands more gun owners violently commit no violent crime everyday! We know who we should lock up now! The cabbages!
Attacker732
Calling these twits cabbages is an insult to all cabbages. At least cabbage can become coleslaw.
mrcynic
No, it's definitely about the flag too
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whenthebioisjustright
You done digging?
photony
waving*
Justag33k
Well Shit. You're right. All I can say is that I am on a ton of painkillers. I'm a little surprised that is the only grammatical error
dischord01
Fuck tht flag
DrHouseSynch
I mean, the racist flag didn't help.
grumpylump
"but muh state's rights"
johnvictor
"But muh freedum of expreshun!" I don't really know what that flag represent and I'm from the south.
ameriki
It is an enemy flag just like an ISIS flag is an enemy flag.
Nivesnow
Flag has a lot to do with it lol
Bogwoppit77
Does the H = humble? Or something else?
Junglebear
Honest.
Bogwoppit77
Thanks
MrPredator
Agreed. The flag itself aside, I'm glad these assholes got what they deserved.
MrBananaBeak
Nah it's a little about the flag too.
tzap
I'm perplexed how the flag is brought up first everywhere. Apparently waving a gun around, shouting "I'll kill you niggers" is not that bad.
CraftedLine
So would it be terroristic threats if a few black guys did this to me, or would it be kids doing stupid things?
DidItForScience
It would be terroristic threatening. Though they probably wouldn't use confederate flags. Just the weapons and murder threats part.
CraftedLine
Still blows my mind that someone would do such a thing at a kids party. May something else, outside of the party, happened
jonbristow
naggers?
OscarWao
If they were shouting racist epithets you bet your ass it was about those damn flags. Being for the confederacy is unpatriotic.
johnvictor
What did they think would happen?!
foxfire1112
"the issue isn't about the flag" i mean, now it is. Do you think the kids at the party are thinking "ya that flag is cool tho"
johnvictor
It's not like people ever associate something bad with just one terrifying, traumatizing event. Nope, not at all.
XLNB
The issue is all of those things + the flag of treasonous defeat.
JustinBoz
It's about the flag AND waiving guns around and threatening to "kill the n_____s."
ThisWorldMakesMeSad
So what you're saying is the title is not nearly as descriptive as it should have been?
Justag33k
Shocking I know. It's almost like they wanted attention focused on the confederate flag instead
ITalkAboutGoats
Wait wait wait, what is it that these people who statistically voted for Trump say? "He won, get over it?" Irony.
Hobbescs
Statistically, racist people voted for trump. People who voted for trump are; however, not statistically racist.
ITalkAboutGoats
That's what I said.
jesusfuckingchristwhatnameisnttaken4
It's does tend to be a VERY common component of racefuckery.
WholesomeCrackwhoresForSale
just write "niggers" you pussy
badfitz99
You can get banned for saying it. Not worth saying.
nineteen85
Why can someone get 20 years for assault and terrorist threats, but get less time for murder or rape? Ah I forgot...good lawyers.
HughManSir
Who the hell wants to kill all the ninjas?!
TheMadOnion
The samurai, duh.
lovelightandgrace
Yup, fuck these people.
Attacker732
I thought you weren't supposed to stick your dick in crazy...?
DoctorWh0m
Also, pointing shotguns at children.
gelirollking
No. Once they are locked up with the gangster moms n dads that can't be with their kids...that's when they will get what they deserve.
TheGuardianFox
Agreed completely. From what I see, these are the kinds of people that actually deserve to be called 'racist' and thrown in jail.
leodavinci1
Did you just say someone should be thrown in jail simply because they're racist?
TheGuardianFox
No, their actions are what rightfully landed them in jail.
Finain
Hehe dare them to say they're gonna "kill those n*****s in prison...
Idonthavealottosay
I see you are also not black
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Idonthavealottosay
No. Just cos you can't say the n word
Finain
Ahh
johnvictor
They're going to have to be separated from gen. pop. unless they want them to be killed on their first night.
Attacker732
... I'm torn between suggesting throwing them to the wolves, or keeping them out of it. They are despicable, but they're still human.
johnvictor
Go toward the gen. pop., I'm remorseless enough saying throwing them to the wolves I got you too.
5po0ky
Humanish
fakepointgenerator
Im sure they'd fit right in with a certain group.
OmenIcarus
The superior group? ;]
ColonelBatGuano
Dude is going to have a whole mess of swastika face tattoos in a few years.
cryborg
Their story is going to be talked about in the prison before they get there. I think they are going to have a bad time.
Finain
If you get famous enough. Flogal was a little to infamous for prison life.
LavaAxe
Depends, there are white supremacist groups in prison too. Aryan brotherhood etc.
justrokkit
"All.. guns.. are... CANCELED!!!!!"
Wilshaxspur
35 years for waving a flag and shouting out hate? Seems overkill.
DidItForScience
Well, threatening to kill people and brandishing weapons might have had something to do with it too.
jonbristow
yeah but still. you get less for actually killing people
DidItForScience
It really depends on who it is and the circumstances. There are lots of people doing 25 to life or life w/o parole.
orangedoorhinge
i mean the issue is thats basically what the flag represents, the civil war was fought over slavery of black americans
IntergalacticElephant
The civil war was not fought solely over slavery. The north had slaves just like the south did. Read more than a pc textbook about it.
leodavinci1
Secession... due to slavery, but secession. If the Southern states hadn't seceded, there wouldn't have been a civil war. At least not then.
DrKriegersClone
Assuming Bannon doesn't convince Trump to pardon them, that is.
swinglinered
Was it Federal?
TheSpellingNazi
The issue is also incorrect spelling.
MaynardJamesKeememe
"Still calmer than you are, dude." -Walter Sobchak
LetMePickMyTeethThenHaveMoreChips2
These pretty ladies are going to get anal sexed.
badfitz99
In a female prison?
NuttierThanAJarOfGoobers
35 years
hrtshthrt
it's 35 YEARS for just few words and piece of cloth with an image on it.
spetcnaz
How much of a useless, waste of oxygen can one be to do this. Like you hurt your own kids and for what? My head hurts just reading about it.
theyar
I remember when the story first came out, there was some suggestion that it really was just people driving around with flags, and that 1/2
theyar
the slurs and guns were exaggeration. But I don't know and I guess there's video evidence. 2/2
Bortus
Ah, thought prison time was a little far for flag waving.
inkpod
That behavior is growing in today's climate, where the President regularly disparages people based on religion, race and nationality
heylookitsmyusername
The flag IS an issue, because it is a symbol for the second half of your sentence
Babuk
Ok what you wrote is hard but I don't think that spending 35 years in jail because of that will make those people change their opinions.
mellino19
ahh I love posts with out of text title, thanks Justag
mustachefleas
CNN even said it was connected to the church shooting simply because they both has confederate flags
MyFunFactsAreLies
You meant a nazis right?
DukeDarkwood
The guys these people are emulating were before the Nazis, by about 60-70 years.
hoboispope
They go by alt-right now
Devante
Why would someone want to kill the neanderthals?
johnsza
Yeah I'm glad. Being a dick doesn't deserve jail time. Aggravated assault on the other hand does.
Rikuyo
Those ninjas had it coming!
Idonthavealottosay
I see that you are not black.
SFCrawNik
Don't ruin @OP's hidden agenda.
jesusfuckingchristwhatnameisnttaken4
Or yours: to pretend the confederate flag isn't a racist symbol of hate.
SFCrawNik
Man, your reading comprehension skills are on point!
TheMadOnion
A secession movement that arose because somebody threatened to take their slaves away. Yeah totally not racist.
DarkwingDuc
That and forming a roving gang, driving around with a convoy of seven trucks, threatening and harassing people for two days, (1/2)
Attacker732
Damn, were they TRYING to get arrested or shot?
UmamiMama
Serious? Wtf is wrong with people!
inkpod
Racists are free to frolic on today's climate where the President regularly disparages people based on religion, race and nationality
UmamiMama
Seems like our country lost all sense of empathy. It's frankly disgusting.
LordSithis
Only the minority that the media latches onto.
Cayowin
Not all empathy, jut that no media coverage of the 349 999 999 people who did not commit a race based crime in america
DarkwingDuc
(2/2) culminating by brandishing a shotgun at a child's birthday party - They're terrorists, plain and simple.
tommyfearn
You are 100% correct
GooBa25
So BLM is a terrorist organization as well
5po0ky
You don't seem too bright
GooBa25
You don't seem to do your research on the organization
aevansk1177
This..
sweatypepperoni
But the media can't/won't label them that way because...well, you know.
skierman25
That would be fake news
Freemage69
At least the jury and prosecutor did--'terroristic threats' was part of both convictions.
TheWuggening
Terroristic threats has nothing to do with terrorism, oddly enough. My father was charged with that.
sweatypepperoni
That's good. Forgive me, I haven't read the story/ies fully.
RandomStranger55
But are they -terrorists-?
MotionOfTheOcean
Well, partypooping a black kid's bd party with confederate flags is kinda icky already, albeit what you recounted IS worse.
MrWolfwood
Only by a SMIDGE....yeesh
annaZon
I'm obviously sad it happened for the kid and family, but I also honestly feel giddy reading about those fuckers being sentenced.
UnevenElephant
You're part of the problem too. I hate racists, but that isn't healthy thinking. Justice was served though. (young minority here)
MotionOfTheOcean
Well, they did threaten the kids and call them with n-words and that they should die too. (I live in Europe and the length of sentence 1/2
MotionOfTheOcean
is doing that to me too, as we rarely even see that long sentences.) But them being judged guilty sounds about right with little doubt. 2/2
philopsyche
Waving the Confederate flag is free speech, saying "kill those _____." Is incitement. If you're going to be an asshole know the laws first
MotionOfTheOcean
I didn't say it is directly illegal. If it is done in someone else's private event in intimidating way, it might be. Could I ask how I 1/2
MotionOfTheOcean
was asshole? It was not intended definitely or was your comment directed at someone else?. 2/2
philopsyche
Uh... The people who got arrested?
Justag33k
I agree that it's bad form. Especially since it was only a little while after the Dylan Roof shooting. But that alone isn't cause for (1/2)
prufock
Bad form. You are a master of understatement.
DidItForScience
Well, there are likely laws against intimidation and disturbing the peace. And possibly implied threats without actually brandishing.
Justag33k
Incarceration. But add them all together and you have the redneck equivalent of a street gang terrorizing children. That'll land you in jail
BluBoxx
Disorderly conduct is a misdemeanor.
CiaphasWho
That's the idea. When someone acts like this, you make an example of them. That way everyone else knows you'll get a severe punishment.
MotionOfTheOcean
Yeah, I agree with you!
Nihelus
It may not be enough for prison time but being a dick with those flags absolutely is enough to arrest for disorderly conduct.
MotionOfTheOcean
And hopefully fines too.
foxfire1112
Nothing you said make me think of this flag and what it represent is anything but racist
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Ansatsunin
...?
KaJuN
Not that what the did is OK, but they got harsher penalties than if they killed people while driving drunk. Our justice system is fucked.
icantbelievemynamewastaken
I'm not sure the solution is to give them less time as to give DUI more time. Pot dealers get more time than child molesters & rapists
KaJuN
Priorities are all screwed up. There was a fatal crash that ended up being the driver's 12th DUI. How the hell was he still walking free??
throwaway360
At least the drunk person could blame being drunk for their stupid actions, you get more time for consciously doing something, usually?
pontiacgirl75
Yeah but a person that went drinking and then driving also made the conscious decision to do so, so a drunk driver is a wouldbe killer
wendellsanders
Even if you make that step in thinking criminal law severity hinges heavily on mens rea. That's why mitigating circumstances are a thing.
tercicatrix
To be clear: You're upset that a 'street gang' terrorizing people and threatening to *murder* them got worse penalties than manslaughter?
KaJuN
Yes. In this case no lives were lost. Had people been killed I would support even harsher penalties than a normal murder.
TwoBoobs
Probably as an example, no? I'm just assuming, but maybe it's to prevent other people from doing things like that?
KaJuN
I get the feeling the judge is making an example of them in this case.
JenkemLazerSkeet
agree 100%, they got more time than an actual murderer. Yea they deserved jail, but that's ridiculous.
tercicatrix
I think that if you threaten to murder people, you should be treated like a murderer.
ColbyBrooks
Its not ridiculous for the sentence they got, its ridiculous that drunk driving gets so little.
PresidentOfTheUnitedSteaks
Agreed, but what are you gonna do about it here? Have you seen these comments? People made their minds already.
JenkemLazerSkeet
Yea I've even see a few comments advocate rape and other violence against them in prison. Sometimes the people on here scare me.
Senko13
Agreed, this is a shitton of cost on taxpayers for a crime that boils down to hurt feelings. US justice system is an oddball indeed.
tzap
They were waving a gun around and shouting "I'll kill you niggers" and stuff like that. It's basically terrorism.
kojenk
They were aiming guns at the party goers and children, threatening their lives verbally & saying "the kids will get some too"
whycantweallsmokeupandbehappy
What a freaking dick move. You don't mess with someones kid. I hate people. Do not mess with kids! Fucking ass hats.
Blacklistedone
Imagine having a b-day party and some asshats come along with guns and threaten to kill your kind. Damn worst b-day party for the kid.
TheAfroClam
But...but...but EVERYONE is someone's kid
kmikl
... your point? I mean, it's not appropriate to do this, at all.
TheAfroClam
And obviously you understand humor and sarcasm.
kmikl
Poe's law.
YourMomsNewBoyfriend
Haha in my head it sounds like your saying "i mean I'm racist but KIDS!? Come on!"
oldarchive
I mean, even if you are racist don't fuck with someone else's kids, said for both whites and blacks.
oldarchive
I mean, even if you are racist don't fuck with someone else's kids, said for both whites and blacks.
luvas
Even evil has standards.
whycantweallsmokeupandbehappy
lol No! That part sucks too, but damn. You they are such dicks that even a kids birthday party is fair game. Id like to "talk" to them both.
YourMomsNewBoyfriend
So when are we gonna tell buggy?
timetCandyCat
"Talk"
whycantweallsmokeupandbehappy
Yeap!
spookyactionatadistance
The guys name is Jose Ismael Tores.
KharnApproves
I read that an immediately wondered how stupid he is. I mean, obviously he's pretty stupid, but damn.
dhcollecting
Torres*
DMGuy
His name is Jose Ismael Tores.
Attaroo
Yeah, I'm guessing he didn't attend many of those KKK or neo-confederate soirees.
TheGrumpest
You don't have to be white to be a white supremacist. Also there are white Latinos.
SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE
And literal Nazis still living in South America.
MalePatternBlackness
Surprisingly enough neo nazi prison gangs ally with Mexican gangs.
elementaryschoollibrarian
OMG the big babies!
PresidentOfTheUnitedSteaks
Just saying, you'd probably cry too if you got told your life was being flushed.
baronramsey
serves those cunts right though haha, don't wanna be raped in prison? How about you don't be a terrorist piece of racist shit?
PresidentOfTheUnitedSteaks
Man you guys love being on your high horses about racism while 2nd degree murderers are getting less time for literally murder.
Duskiewastaken
this
baronramsey
You racist or something? Just because one thing is fucked up doesn't mean their punishment isn't deserved. Shut yo stupid racist ass up.
PresidentOfTheUnitedSteaks
I'm not racist actually, I just don't see how that's all that "just" like all you dodos are screeching.
PresidentOfTheUnitedSteaks
But way to jump in and play that card, it shines on your character.
Duskiewastaken
totally agree
frankbarista
Welp now they can celebrate all the racist shit they want with the Arayan Brothers in jail i guess
disinfectantrum
The fucked up thing is that even most Kindred aren't down with fucking with kids, black or not.
BrotherhoodOfTheTaco
The dudes name is Jose Ismael Torres. ...TORRES. Im not sure if he'll get in.
MostUninterestingManInTheWorld
Could be Spaniard, a lot of them get lumped in as white Hispanics but they are just as white as the Smiths and O'Reilly's.
CthulhusGreasyBallsack
JOSE TORRES, WHITE SUPREMACIST. HAHAHAHA
frankbarista
Well shit
Fr3nulum
...JOSE
ProsperosLament
gonna come out more racist and with organizational backing
BlindyBlindMansSonnySon
He'll prob get more racist but if you want protection from the brotherhood you gotta work for the brotherhood, he will get more and more 1
BlindyBlindMansSonnySon
time in prison. 2
TheGrumpest
they were already part of an organization. that's how they were charged with gang terrorism.
ISayFuckAllTheTime
...I don't think the brotherhood will let Jose Torres in.
frankbarista
Aint that fucking beautiful...smh
illmissyou
The grand irony here - the harsh sentence comes from laws designed to target gangs in black communities. How's that for equal treatment.
Justag33k
It's pretty awesome in my opinion
RocketRodster
Maybe, but out 15 people indicted, only the Cuban and his baby momma get time
PlaceboNine
BugNotAFeature
doodoobailey
steveowashere
I'm sorta glad that the man got a terrorism charge, unlike the white guy who shot up that mosque in Canada. Terrorism applies to all races.
IronyHighScore
High score!
RocketRodster
Maybe, but out 15 people indicted, only the Cuban and his baby momma get time
tehzpoon
That feels good on my balls.
GnarredGnarly
Clearly it wasn't designed for black communities considering they are being charged with it.
azgrak
Irony, try 300 hrs of community service for an*ly raping someone with a coat hanger. No jail time and no sex offender registry. John Howard.
Blacklistedone
It's not Irony but it is disgusting that someone only gets community service for raping.
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Molvanian
He had an aggravated assault charge as well. So, you know, another, very bad crime that she wasn't charged with.
TurtleOnTheRocks
I bet the man was the one with the gun
observationalist
Hah. Fucking typical. We females are always assumed to have less agency. To just be dumb helpless little followers. We evil, you hear me??
SensualRobotPorn
Lol, dunno why you're getting downvotes. +1 I tried.
wonder89
she has children by him they usually factor that in
sweatypepperoni
That's bullshit. If they don't wanna be away from their kids, they shouldn't do stupid shit.
ratfaceddog
I think it's more about the kids being without parents than it is about them not wanting to be away from the kids.
ratfaceddog
To be clear, fuck these assholes. It's their fault their kids will be without them, but it sucks that the kids have to go through that.
MrBananaBeak
He was the one with the gun. He got an extra charge - aggravated assault.
STGxDante
They were kind of terribly racist. You know they could have not done it. It's not like speeding, it was a planned out act to terrorize race.
BigDaddysMeatWagon
Terrorizing is threatening a group with violence and pain to control them with fear. This was clearly terrorism.
theplopperplopper
Kind of? I think society's views of racism and terrorism are very dimmed down in the sense of severity of such acts.
PoliAsh
Pretty sure that was just Internet politeness. No sane person will say that what these people did was extreme racism and evil
JustCallMeJazzHands
I'd say it's quite equal.
bengalhoel40
There is nothing equal about that sentence.
IFoldlyGo
Even if it is separate?
JustCallMeJazzHands
Well, according to the Court's ruling in Plessy v Ferguson...
Rasui
Yeah, this is actually my #1 problem with this. I agree with the verdict but using patriot act and anti-gang laws is overreaching and wrong.
illmissyou
Why is it ok to use those laws against black people but not these people?
Rasui
The reason I have a problem with this is that I've personally been a victim of these laws. You see I happen to live in Georgia. 1/?
Rasui
Ah, the old "He doesn't agree so he must be the opposite position" argument. How about, they aren't right to use on anyone inappropriately?
illmissyou
I'm sorry that happened too you. But these people were definitely acting very much like a gang. Personally I don't agree with the sentences
illmissyou
in either case. But it especially pisses me off that we level them disproportionately on minorities.
Rasui
One day a drunk redneck came up to me in a bar and tried to start a fight for literally no reason. After a little shoving started by him 3/?
Rasui
Because some redneck picked a fight I nearly lost my future. It's not okay to stretch laws regardless of who you're targeting. 10/10
Rasui
Point here is that I have a personal problem with abusing laws and overreaching on account of nearly getting my life ruined by it 9/?
Rasui
The charges ended up getting dropped because I literally did nothing and actually would have gotten a lower charge for punching the dude 8/?
Rasui
So he backs off but the cops of course show up anyway and start asking what happened. I tell my story truthfully (Stupid me right?) 5/?
Rasui
I told him to back off or I was going to quote "Break his fucking hands." It was around this point that someone called the cops 4/?
Rasui
Of course none of that mattered to dickhead redneck cop and I got to spend the night in jail and have a high bail due to the felony. 7/?
Rasui
It was shortly after the Patriot Act was passed and all of the good ol' boy local cops were enjoying abusing their newfound powers. 2/?
Rasui
And promptly get arrested for "Terroristic Threats," which I should mention is a FELONY CHARGE DESIGNED TO COMBAT TERRORISM! 6/?
kmikl
SCHADENFREUDE! GITCH'R SCHADENFREUDE RIGHT HERE!!!
ohwaitwassheagreatbigfatperson
I like me some schadenfreude
tehzpoon
Hot and fresh, just like Mutter used to make.
jackalwsu3
And a side of breadsticks!
Burke616
Fresh and piping hot, or best-served-cold, we got all kinds!
shittttyy
They committed a hate crime so it's a normal sentence. . .
Freemage69
Actually, Georgia lacks a hate crime law. They got busted for several other offenses, though.
TheManyFacedDog
Of course. Why would Georgia need hate crime laws? They've always had a great, minority-friendly community.
mechanicalchaos
I could swim through the sarcasm in this comment.
Burke616
Be careful you don't fall into the sarcasm, it's a long way down.
ShaggyParks
Calling a violent crime a "hate crime" is a misnomer. Crimes should be judged by the severity of the action, not the motivation.1/2
ArcipluvianCosmicGallows
1) That's not what a misnomer is. 2) Crimes should definitely be judged by intent. Negligent manslaughter isn't nearly as bad as murder.
ShaggyParks
My comment is about motive with regard to murder, not manslaughter. Also, misnomer means a wrong/ inaccurate name. Words mean things.
ShaggyParks
By that logic, we would punish a thief less for stealing food to eat. No. Equal punishment. How you *think* is not punished; its how you act
Burke616
Uh, we *do* punish thieves less if they're only stealing essentials to survive. That's a valid reason to steal. Intent is weighed.
ShaggyParks
Cite your source in law or US code.
ShaggyParks
Don't get me wrong. I think these people are the scum of the earth. But our constitution protects the right to have stupid opinions. And its
ShaggyParks
Very un-American & unconstitutional to attempt to punish opinions. We punish actions. Even in court, motive is only used to prove that the
ArcipluvianCosmicGallows
The constitution does protect the right to have stupid opinions. It does not protect the right to commit crime for your stupid opinions.
andaction
By your 'logic' someone who intentionally kills someone is the same as someone who accidentally kills someone. Um ... nope.
ShaggyParks
Manslaughter & murder are different. All murders are hate crimes. We should not punish murder more or less harshly based on motive. 1/2
andaction
Saying all murders are hate crimes is over simplification. There are murders done for reasons other than hate/anger/etc.
ShaggyParks
It places more value on that murder's motive than it does on the victim's life. I don't think that is a good thing. Murder is murder.
andaction
Look up "Voluntary Manslaughter". It is intentional but not premeditated.
Thanksforallofthememeries
OMFG, thank you! I was trying to find a better way of saying "lots more blacks in jail for the same thing," but not... that...way
Nicalanius
Good try tho
diedrichm0319360
Sometimes I'm scared to talk talk to black people, because I may say something racist. Like, sometimes I'm scared to talk to black people
smittyA97
Lol I'm not going to pretend to speak for all black people here, but I personally don't mind a few conversational blunders. No one's perfect
diedrichm0319360
Most race barriers are put in place by those who cannot accept full equality, but that goes for everyone.
sunyudai
It sounds like you care more about this than they do. Don't worry about accidentally saying something racist, just don't be an asshole.
diedrichm0319360
It was a joke.meant to laugh at not trying to start a race war. FYI beige will win. "My gut say's maybe"
diedrichm0319360
Easy player, drunk and joking here, not sober and cynical
sunyudai
I was aiming for a "Nah, chill out dude" tone of voice. Text isn't good for this kind of thing, as we both misread each other's intent.
AyeVey
As a black individual, please do say it. We often get away with so much
diedrichm0319360
Screw your down voting, take my +1.
diedrichm0319360
That seemed more angry and racist than intended
IshitOnWindshields
Its not. Us black folks get a pass on too much
johnvictor
Sometimes. A lot do get extreme punishments for minor infractions though like possession of a joint or similar.
ScuseMeWhileIWhipThisOut
Here's the sauce... http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/pair-sentenced-terrorizing-birthday-confederate-flags-article-1.2983749
Killingthemnotsosoftly
My hero
VodkaReindeer
"Georgia does not have a hate crime statute." Oh dear.
SpartaWolf117
thank you
Winterous
Well, that's interesting.
CardinalXim
Wait, Georgia has no hate crime legislation? Man that's messed up.
pogofo
Thank you!
lightningbeforethunder
Holy shit they got 35 years
TUGboatJOB
No, combined 35 years. He got 20 which only 13 jail time and she got 15, only 6 jail time.
jeromygride
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hanabakemono
Thanks, I was really confused and had no idea where to start looking on Google. Legit, you're awesome. :>
OhNoItsMarco
You deserve more upvotes
Astrangeimageeveryday
Thank fren
GustavoShrapnel
Thx, not sure why it's not in the post.
hookerbot5000
so he get's 13 years and she gets 6? not exactly equal punishment for the same crime.....
CANADIANMIST
I grew up in Douglasville. This is unfortunately pretty common.
OverpricedCrayon
GJ with finding the link but is it really necessary to use the word "sauce" for something serious like this?
OverpricedCrayon
i like how many teenagers ive made upset
IbukiOnTheScene
go sauce yourself
ScuseMeWhileIWhipThisOut
"Something serious like this" and you're complaining about the word "sauce"? And then you wonder about downvotes. Not too bright, eh?
Eichimaru
Something so serious requires only the finest puttanesca
darkyokuo
Thanks for the link
HeavilyBearded
Genuinely curious why the women serves half the time in prison compared to the man, the father to her kids and husband, lover, or cousin.
MrBananaBeak
Because he was the one with the gun and received an additional charge.
HeavilyBearded
Ah! From the sound of it, it seemed as though they were both armed but I may have just misread. Thanks for the info!
PxC4
Saw the letters "LAS" on her prison garb, internally hopes it doesn't say "DALLAS", reads the story, breathes a sigh of relief.
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PxC4
I'm from Texas and was hoping these idiots weren't from Dallas, Texas.
zoomist
Do you know where I can watch the video?
unclestankstank
Man, that article needs to be edited...
VodkaReindeer
Dude, just watch the video instead! (lol)
Wastyvez
Holy shit that judge was not fucking around.
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LachyRK
Or a judge that actually has compassion not everything is about race.
Bopjick
I agree
Bopjick
I agree
Razblaze
This is a case of "making example of to deter further idiots"
SupraLove
Honestly, I looked at the sentence and had to double take to make sure I read it right! Although harsh, it is rightfully so.
seahorseCaravan
The headline is so misleading. The sentence wasn't for waiving the Confederate flag. Such bait
TitaniumTeddyBear
Thank you, Captain.
Thruen
35 years Holy shit! You get 12 for murder in Finland lol.
captainfuckingobvious
Interesting side note: her eyes look waaaay to close together
VodkaReindeer
Don't worry, there are no VR glasses in prison.
jeromygride
Prolly the incest
IReactToCommentsInMemesAndGifs
I thought the same
IReactToCommentsInMemesAndGifs
35 years? Danm!
Deepdeepwell
Is it a joke when people write sauce? Instead of source ?? I see it all the time, just wondering if it's a play on words??
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Deepdeepwell
Cheers, I liked that
ScuseMeWhileIWhipThisOut
Yes, it's a play on the word "source". Welcome to Imgur, I hope you enjoy your stay.
Ashrinkingdadbod
Welcome to the internet, newfriend.
Mikeiller
Sometimes people do stupid things because they think they're being funny
JustLetMeInAlreadyFFS
Georgians you say? I got the solution right here
OdysseusLost
He used the same slash and burn everything tactic against Native Americans and organized the mass slaughter of 5 million buffalo. Fuck him.
blessedarethecheesemakers
connorcat
As a proud Southerner...thank you. That's glorious.
blessedarethecheesemakers
Its a little rough but I couldn't resist. Thanks for being a good sport about it!
connorcat
Oh I think it's kinda stupid to take things like that personal. I loved it!
hammersquirrel
You might be interested to know the M4A3R3 Sherman tank had a turret mounted flamethrower
Johnbarelykorn
I know, the Duke and me was really close.
jule22112
A guy name Jose Ismael Torres was waving around a confederate flag um I'm confused
allaeblafuebtehabiaunchorrito
Same thing I was going to say... I mean, that is one big fucking latino name. Racism and stupid is universal regardless of race, and creed.
Dugalug
I think he's confused.
coffetangent436
In all respect can you tldr for me. I'm drunk and not in the mood to read a lot but also Interested in what happened
Moobbles
Title says it all.
BuiltLikeATruckCuddlyLikeATeddyBear
black kid's b-day "♫Happy birthday to y..." CONFEDERATE-FLAGGY-TRUCK-VROOOOOM "We're gonna kill those n***ers!" "No, you're going to prison"
Zephronias
My dad is hispanic and racist as fuck. Just 'cause lots of whites group anyone browner than they are in the same club doesn't make it so.
Essseff
Mine too, any chance hes cuban?
WhiskersVonHoppyhopsthe3rd
It's Hispanics overall, my mom is Nica and she's racist as fuck. Same goes for my dad
SpeakerToMeat
I know a Latin American (Latino) gay guy who was a neo Nazi in the early 90s
eetsumkaus
if there's anything history has taught us, hating Jews somehow transcends skin color
marcj83
Anti-blackness is global.
mormacil
Well among some Caribbean communities the darker you are the less you are. So I guess that is anti blackness among blakc people?
LeighS79
Anti-race is global... works in all directions
WhiskersVonHoppyhopsthe3rd
I thought the same, when he goes to prison he's gonna be so confused on which gang to join to protect him. Whites or Latinos, who knows?
JTstupidhead
What if he changes his name to joseph thompson.
smallskillerofhambino
Robert Paulson
LosRod
*Joseph Towers
PornhubsFirstTree
Then he can blame autocorrect.
bruudwin
**Joseph (White) Powers
shane201
Well the name Torres has Portuguese and Spanish origins. His roots could be Spaniard or Portuguese which both fall under European.
imhoots
Yeah, but they aren't.
Lysop
Is his second name also Spanish/Portuguese? I know it as an middle eastern name. Just a question.
MostUninterestingManInTheWorld
Yes.
RanchoCucamonga
Latinos aren't really a race imho. There are very white blonde haired Latinos
Eichimaru
Self loathing is ugly, "Rancho Cucamonga"
SimoE
You don't have to be blonde to be white. Look at people from southern Europe and the middle east.
Gustie13
35 years?? Holy fuck! You can kill someone and not get that much.
mormacil
Two of them together and not all will be served.
RanchoCucamonga
Why did the man get 13 years but the woman got 6?
freshpineapplejuice
And this wasn't the first time he pulled some shit
bbscshirk101
Aggravated assault.
Vaanhalen
They literally would be better off doing actual murder instead of "threatening it" holding a conf. flag. That seems backwards
CardinalXim
Their combined sentance adds up to 35 years.
Jrex42
The sentence seems way too harsh for the crime ... and yet I feel no sympathy for them. Who the fuck does that???
flapperfemmefatale
i actually think they got off easy. they shouldn't get parole.
sharon838
The headline is misleading. It's 35 combined. He got 20 and she got 15 to serve 6 in prison. I agree with you. 35 would have been too harsh
tcgl
They threatened to kill children - I think they got a very fair sentence, actually. Too bad they won't actually be rehabilitated, though.
Jrex42
You're right, I read a summary. More details makes it worse. More than fair. Fuck them.
Vaanhalen
Really? Because they'd get less time for actually killing a couple people. Don't get me wrong in not pro south but come on
tcgl
So does that mean THIS sentence is unfair, or does that mean a murder sentence is unfair?
Nobody7713
Yeah I'm okay with throwing the fucking book at people who shout "Kill the n****ers* at children and wave shotguns at them.
tcgl
They're likely to come out of jail even MORE racist and hateful, and with new criminal connections. We need prison reform so badly!
MissDashLisa
You should watch american history x
Vaanhalen
You can't count on a movie coming true. But it is a great movie
FacemanPeck
Word will get out what they did and the blacks will all want retaliation and the whites will protect them.
FacemanPeck
And by whites I of course don't mean just normal cool whites but like the Aryan brotherhood kind of whites.
Razblaze
Well good thing the POTUS wants to expand the private prison system! /Sigh
tcgl
Yeah.....so many things that POTUS and I disagree on, I wouldn't know where to begin.