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sparky2212
Americans overwhelmingly vote for unpopular woman. Unpopular man elected president.
HeySuperVillainsIGetIt
The economy demands sacrifice. Orphan crushing machines are more efficient.
isaypoopythingabecausemostofyouannoyme
He raised 6000 so he could pay off the students lunch debt so he wouldn’t be taken from his parents forever
BDenver81
So yes let’s post exaggerate hyperbole instead of bringing attention to the actual problems
AjKaramba
‘I Feel Sorry for Americans’: A Baffled World Watches the U.S. https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1309629720108113920
tpgreyknight
MFW Molly icon
wafflesnaffle
Charities are just a sign of a failed government
camcam1234
My favourite American stories are the GoFundMe stories where people living in a dystopia need large sums of money for basic medical care.
Scotia
When I first heard about Lunch Debt, that's when I knew the US was beyond fucked... A dystopia, interested in profit above people.
TheAngryMarineBiologist
America, the only country in the world where it's people are openly proud to be ripped off by the government not giving them any 1/?
TheAngryMarineBiologist
Benefits from the tax dollars taken 2/2
Lyths
Not just the news but American tv programs where they give life changing operations for things that in countries with UHC would be never be
Lyths
get to the stage where it affects their lives , In some ways American tv shows are just like the freak shows of the past.
Tom4te
But have you thought of all the people working at the orphan-crushing machine assembly plant !? What kind of monster are you to suggest 1/2
Tom4te
we deprive them and their families of their livelihood ?!
undeadtedmosby
I don't find them heartwarming. Mostly enfuriating.
NZSheeps
sadurdaynight
Capitalism in the US has found if you generate artificial barriers, you can charge people to remove them. EG: ATT slows network speed 1/
sadurdaynight
to entice you to get a "tiered" plan, IE: one that they will then speed up netflix on again. We have a glut of middle-men all wanting a 2/
sadurdaynight
cut of money, because easy credit made things too expensive too fast. That's why we have health insurance. Healthcare costs sky-rocketed 3/
sadurdaynight
and folks struggled. Insurance got involved. Now insurance runs both sides of it, and just creates artificial barriers./
falconchris
Same with the Servicemen coming home and surprising their children. Perhaps not sending parents abroad to be killed would be better?
ImNotStalkingYouBTWYoureOutOfMilk
Military service is almost always voluntary, and those "servicemen coming home and surprising their children" happens in every country
in9119iwas
Billionaire gave tiny fraction of his wealth to social cause in need after the senators he paid made sure he could avoid paying taxes.
getguds
which in turn caused the very problem said billionaire is looking so good at fixing.
OneBabyOneHamburgerBun
There is a phrase for this, it is called "Suffering Pornography" and it is maddening / insane.
ratfinkfuck
One night years ago the only thing on TV that wasn't TVshop was a bad straight porno, so in a sense I was suffering pornography.
deadandbloated
But when you point this out, you get this weird paradox, where they're like, "What, do you want me to feel *bad* about this?" If you want >
deadandbloated
> people to take your point of view in the end, you have to meet them where they are now, first. In this kind of case, it might be better >
deadandbloated
> to share the genuine feeling of being pleased that a good thing happened, then roll that over into "hey, want to make even more good >
deadandbloated
> things happen? Why don't we work together on the systemic issue underneath?" I'm not sure you can guilt or shame people into making the >
deadandbloated
> real, big societal changes. You might get someone who superficially obeys a new norm, but underneath resentment is building.
likeumreal
Those extreme makeover shows of saintly but struggling families are just charity porn for a society full of struggling people. I mean if
likeumreal
the craftsmen in the RV racing them to the family's humble shack, hearing the family's sad sack story and planning the renovations, instead
likeumreal
planned a grassroots campaign to elect officials that promised to erect an actual adequate safety net by taxing like normal countries do...
MrBoopleSnootFluffkins
But that wouldn't be good TV! We need to see children crying!!! We want blood!!!
likeumreal
How can these craftsmen get 7 - 8 figure endorsement deals for lifestyle brands w home Depot & Target if they're just registering voters?
MrBoopleSnootFluffkins
I don't think Washington would have crossed the Delaware if he knew how things would turn out.
Smidge204
Look those orphans aren't gonna crush themselves, and the Orphan Crusher Manufacturing Co. of Cincinnati employs DOZENS of people...
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And think of their shareholders. Linda T Moneybags might only make 133 million in capital gains this year if you shut down the plant
MrBoopleSnootFluffkins
Well, at least someones looking out for the Orphan Crusher Manufacturing Co. People would soon complain if the orphan crushing machines...
MrBoopleSnootFluffkins
...were being made in China! Keep orphan crushing machines American!
Warvillage
I always feel strange reading about lunch debt preventing kids from graduating, our schools just feed them with money from taxes
DatDarthCaedus
A school in Pennsylvania threatened to PUT CHILDREN IN FOSTER CARE if their lunch debt went unpaid (then walked back on it when criticized).
Warvillage
That is insane, how can someone even get that thought and not immediately discard it?
Tesseract09
Because the objective is to punish people for being poor.
Tesseract09
Because they're only poor because they choose to be lazy, immoral and make bad choices. It's their own fault. /S
glovelyday
"Next up: 11 year old Miami girl overjoyed after classmates sell themselves to pedophiles and raise $500,000 for her open heart surgery."
joreledgerton3000
Whoa!
prepeymad
Spot on
reaper8891
"Aww those angels god bless them" - karens
PoopSammich
"Followed by: Parents dress up son like a dancing monkey so they can afford his cancer treatments"
Kbantar
Isn't that essentially just social media and Go Fund Me? Dance, monkey, dance.
PoopSammich
Kbantar
Ouch. I'm normally the one cringing slightly at people missing the obvious joke.
TheSpeakerOfTheHouse
"And then, the heartwarming story of a young boy being dressed in drag and dancing in front of gay d..." wait, that actually happened.
ofthelathetheswarf
MaliceofTheHighestDegree
The dark parts are left out to fuel the 'good guys' facade.
BadgerMushroomSnake
Based on a true story - Netflix
dilbobaggins
Cosmo Kramer: "You're paying way too much for your child sex workers! I know a guy, real Hollywood-type who can get you squared away."
Kbantar
Damn. Now you made me wonder about the mark up on human trafficking. Just, no. I'm going to look for cat pics to get that thought out.
Tonberryc
Eerily close to reality. https://nypost.com/2019/08/20/jeffrey-epstein-coerced-sex-slave-into-marrying-one-of-his-recruiters-suit/
EveryLieIsAnInsult
hirosjimma
Jesus fucking christ
ButterfaceTaintClown
meanwhile in the post-Dickensian UK... https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/may/06/ellie-orton-92m-nhs-state-funding-captain-tom
VinzClorthoInSunglasses
WE HAVE TOO MUCH FREE HEALTHCARE
Lyths
Are you trying to be sarcastic ? Or are you just a idiot ? With a comment like yours it’s hard to tell .
VinzClorthoInSunglasses
Counter-question; are YOU?
Lyths
Thanks you answered my question ?
koflan
Be smarter
moonsaves
This is an unfortunate result of our Conservative party greedily slicing bits off of our NHS, just so that they can go "see, it can't 1/2
moonsaves
even walk now that we've chopped its legs off, what a useless system." 2/2
doubleyouexwhyandz
There is no way a open hear surgery costs that much. It’s way more than that.
JackalopeElope
The Dystopian Reality Of All Those "Inspirational" Stories - SOME MORE NEWS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYOA8gXpios
allysuzumiya
Light shines brightest when surrounded by darkness.
goflyblind
PoopSammich
I like this show but more so when it was funny and didn't make me want to put my head in the oven.
AnAsOfYetUnidentifiedIndividual
>:(
icommentwithsteveharvey
Meanwhile corporations out here like
SacrificialClam
That was amazing
getguds
you forgot the part where the child blames the adult for not saving enough ingredients when the baking goes wrong.
claynipple
That kid is going to grow up to be a bully
LjubljanaJeNajlepseMestoNaSvetu
cOrPoRaTiOnS aRe PeOpLe ToO
sebrei
Eggy1632
What a bratty kid!!! Do what's right and discipline the damn kid, give him a good smack!!!
Nanuek
Smacking isn't discipline, it's setting a shitty example.
blzrdphoto
Dude. We would have been done after the second grab if that were my kid.
blzrdphoto
I have twin 3 year olds. If I let anything like that slide they would just keep escalating it to the next level with each other.
drunkbs
Nothing a little duct tape can't fix.
dragonhunter0412
Sidewaysgts
I can’t help but wonder if this child is somewhere on the spectrum, or just that disobedient.
icommentwithsteveharvey
Could be both
TheActualDonKnotts
I kinda wanna punch that kid.
DarkerSavant
To those commenting I just want to point out you don’t know anything about the child’s development or psychology.
MayorPandaTaker
Found their YouTube channel, The kids fine, mom's too soft. news at 11
Sidewaysgts
That’s disappointing to hear. What’s the channel?
budgetcarpets
Just do a bowl of chilli source an let the kid have at it - he won’t do it again
HerbalTeaEnemas
You underestimate a kids stubbornness
HammerNoodle
Just gotta make good and spicy, mm delcious to me but that kid will suffer a new world of anguish
HerbalTeaEnemas
Oh I love spicy foods, regularly add habanero to my meals, but that hasn't stopped my kids from tryna steal a bite once in a while.
WoefulWombat
Happened to me with gravy. Thought it was delicious hot chocolate. Twas not. Didn't eat gravy for 15 years.
MayorPandaTaker
And now you know better
AutoBat
Turn... turn on the mixer
MrBoopleSnootFluffkins
Here's one for the orphan crushing machine!
imgurschmimgur
Great, my wife heard me giggling from the bathroom and now I need to explain about the orphan crushing machine
MrBoopleSnootFluffkins
Well, the more that people know about the orphan crushing machine, the sooner we can have an orphan crushing machine.
imgurschmimgur
Orphan Crushing Machine 2020.
imgurschmimgur
(slightly less damaging to orphans than current president).
PickleDemon5
Am I right? Those orphans free ride is over!
MrBoopleSnootFluffkins
This! This is why I come here!
Cloud423
The system works!
worldsokayestspeler
Why does the parent let the kid act like that?
meauho
So the video will go viral
Whataliar
Oh man. Yall need to calm down a bit haha. Its just a funny video.
ElbowDeepInAPoliceState
For the 'gram, evidently
JHawke
Someone who wants a funny video for things being out of control.
TavisMcNamara
You get a funny video and teach your kid to be a shithead AT THE SAME TIME! Two for one deal bitches!
TheSpeakerOfTheHouse
Because she doesn't know when to set the kid down and make a point of not involving him in the cooking anymore. It's simple, but effective.
Flyms
Or maybe its the other way around. (i think both work). But what she does is definitly enhancing his behavior.
Gibenitural
Because you don't want the kid to pick up bullying as a life lesson? Are you a parent?
Musicmonkay
I’d reckon a kid would have a higher chance becoming a bully if he didn’t learn about consequences, compared to a kid that was scolded
hashbaz
Removing a kid from a situation when they don't behave isn't bullying. I'm what world would that be bullying?
Gibenitural
I'm talking about scolding and yelling at the kid to make him stop. Thats what a couple of folks are saying aren't they?
dannishadow
I mean, I would just set him on the ground and not allow him to help anymore. But the video seems to be for the views, so I doubt she cares.
WoefulWombat
The woman is literally wrestling the child. What do you want her to do? Yeet him out the window? Grab her jumper cables?
MidnightMadness240
MidnightMadness240
People downvoting cause they never heard of jumper cables.
sharkbateoohaha
What a ridiculous comment.
WoefulWombat
Intentionally so, yes.
Dionysus187
You seem to be implying theyre evenly matched outside of using lethal force. I feel the need to tell you that would be a ridiculous scenario
WoefulWombat
I feel the need to tell you about the existence of exaggeration and sarcasm.
Dionysus187
So why are you arguing against her being able to handle child? Unless you are going to try wiggling out of it by saying you were joking...
worldsokayestspeler
She barely even tells him no and doesnt command any authority. At the very least she should reprimand him and not allow him to participate
Gibenitural
Christ, the videos in pieces. .. You know she edited out the cursing and admonishment. Stop judging.
Dionysus187
pretty sure they are doing it on purpose for views, which is why I downvoted it regardless of use
randomname27329
Feel good stories are America's defense mechanism against the truth. No healthcare for you? How about donations from your colleagues? Mkay
MaliceofTheHighestDegree
As an American, yeah pretty much, I hate it just as much as everyone else with a brain cell left to spare.
FourLegsGood
Funny that imgur users do the exact same shit by upvoting feel good crap and ignoring practical solutions to large problems.
LordNergal
Also, the ones involving other nations typically come down to cost evaluation. It's cheaper to run a semi-effective charity than invade a 1/
LordNergal
sovereign nation, and really the invasion is needed to solve the problem. 2/2
ElbowDeepInAPoliceState
Back a rebel group who does what's best for their people and not the one friendliest to the US
PoopSammich
Can't get crowdfunded for that procedure? Don't blame us who won't give you affordable healthcare, blame the people that didnt donate
bolomy
And it seems possible to solve every problem throwing money at it. You don’t want Trump re-elected? Donate!
TheOrginalStack
The only thing Europe loves more than constantly commenting on the US is free shit.
Horsenippleking
It’s weird you assume people are European just because America sucks. We know it sucks, we live here
TheOrginalStack
Then I say this in all seriousness. Try living in different countries. Find one you like better. I'm living in Europe and traveled much.
TheOrginalStack
And it far from sucks. Our country isn't perfect but there is no place I'd rather die. That doesn't mean I obsess about other countries.
TheAngryMarineBiologist
As a European, nah. We don't get free shit, we get what our tax money paid for, rather than letting ourselves be ripped off like Americans
TheOrginalStack
No, you get half of what your tax money pays for. The rest goes to people who don't work and government inefficiency.
RacanGiraffeMonster
u can become one of the ppl who don't work so easy. It just takes a few seconds not paying attention to traffic or one bad illness
TheOrginalStack
Forgive me. I should have said "won't work." I have no issue paying benefits to those that temporarily need them.
RacanGiraffeMonster
or just a company who lays u off to hire some one cheaper... but now u are 59 and no one wants to hire u anymore... but of course this will
r0b074p0c4lyp53
Hahaha, who told you that, trump?
TheOrginalStack
No, I work for the government. I know waste. I'll take my higher pay for the same job, lower taxes, and pay for quality healthcare any day.
TheOrginalStack
I don't listen to anything that man has to say for the record. He's an idiot.
PresJoeBiden
If only we taxed the rich, right?
KiLLeRdAcKeL
something something socialism
CardboardEmpress
Rich people have always paid more tax than the poor, simply because they had more to give. Not taxing them is very recent.
skellington01
It’s fun blaming the rich. It’s not that you shouldn’t tax the rich, but that’s far from the problem. The problem is 40% of you would rather
skellington01
banning abortions & “keeping their guns” than having healthcare. We’ve been telling you for years. Here, where we have free healthcare and
skellington01
free education, we have time to work on closing tax loopholes.
Happyhappjoyjoy
40% of all taxes are paid by the top 1%. Not against them paying more but, don’t act like they pay nothing.
ArcaneConjecture
Bullshit. First, that's only *income* taxes, not property, sales, and import taxes. Second the 1% have 40% of the wealth.
Happyhappjoyjoy
So when you add all of those other taxes they pay more than 40%, ok. I said I am not against them paying more but ignorance is bliss I guess
ArcaneConjecture
Actually, no. Sales taxes are regressive. They hit the poor harder. https://theintercept.com/2019/04/13/tax-day-taxes-statistics/
Happyhappjoyjoy
The title first off is not true, misleading at best. Almost 50% of America get most of their taxes back. It doesn’t even mention that fact.
spudpicker
But if we did that how would they piss on us . . . er, I mean how would their wealth magically trickle down?
ProfessorAssBlast2020
Simple righ? with the current system you could take all the billions the rich have and only a small fraction would prob reach people in need
MaliceofTheHighestDegree
We could always eat them.
pritolus
Oh and also not use tax money to make rich people richer
TheSpeakerOfTheHouse
Tax them too much and they leave, tax them too little and they don't pay their share, it's a no-win situation unless you apply mercantilism.
pritolus
Leave to where? Russia? Where would they go where they would pay less in taxes than in the US?
transientmind
The threat to ‘leave’ is dramatically overplayed. Everything that can be offshores already has been. They’re not here out of loyalty.
Lyths
I say let them leave , but never let them trade within the country in any guise again , other companies will take up the slack and pay taxes
Lyths
time to stop corporations from dictating to governments and people.
TheSpeakerOfTheHouse
Read further down my comment chain, you'll see why I brought it up this way. (Sorta unsure why the downvotes)
TheSpeakerOfTheHouse
Which is why "free trade" has been sold (by corporations, who own the media) to the public so much.
TheSpeakerOfTheHouse
Put tl;dr, you put levies and tariffs on a company that moves HQ out of your country to avoid taxes, so it's harsher than the taxes.
MaliceofTheHighestDegree
That's a solid idea actually. ?
umpbumpfizz
1) Tariffs pass to the consumer. Protectionism’s benefits start breaking down when GDP growth flattens. One of my UG deg.s was econ, and not
umpbumpfizz
3) stop looking for a Pareto opt. solution and say fuck it - tariff the shit out of F100 companies that shelter cash in another country.
umpbumpfizz
4) Eventually we would find a balancing point where it’s cheaper to pay the taxes & access the % of consumers who couldn’t pay tariff prices
umpbumpfizz
2) in four years of study did I come across anything close to a Pareto optimal solution to fix foreign HQ tax haven issues. Maybe we should
skedan
The US system needs a full overhaul. Swede here, I pay less in taxes than y’all and I have free healthcare, free education, etc etc.
JustAnotherPOG
I just took a look at taxes in Sweden. What you said is straight bullshit.
skedan
30% is what I pay. As I’ve seen, if you pool the federal, state and county (?) tax it often amounts to more.
skedan
Also, check this out. The US system is flawed: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_health_expenditure_per_capita
JustAnotherPOG
What about the VAT? That's pretty significant. The only thing comparable in the US is sales tax (which is state/local). Highest is 10.25%.
JustAnotherPOG
And your regular income tax is much higher. But with all of these together, you are somehow paying less in taxes? Bullshit.
JustAnotherPOG
And Social Security taxes are higher. And capital gains. And corporate income.