Sep 5, 2014 5:06 AM
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L0L5ever
THIS. I FUCKING NEEDED THIS
ThatOneGuyWhoDidThatOneThingAtThatOnePlaceThatOneTime
Romanticized suicide is terrible, but let us not forget The human mind is a complicated and fragile thing
Cellidor
It's the difference between choice to people. Someone with a terminal illness can't stop their death, but suicide requires killing oneself.
StonesOnTheHill
Valid Question, Valid Answer, Changes Nothing, Life Goes On. Or not. It's up to you.
YamatoIouko
As a man once said, "We create our own purpose in life. Now go create yours."
olegh
Ok, this is utter shit. Don't live your life for others, live it for yourself. YOU deserve a good life. That's why you shouldn't give up.
jlindquist74
True, but we don't always get what we deserve. And we may find ourselves in circumstances where we no longer have the means to change that.
Mylemonhurts
This post assumes everyone has people that care about them.
flight815down
I held my sister as she sobbed because a regular at her waitressing gig had killed himself. People will always care
ReginaldCuftbert
For some people, it's a choice between hurting others or continuing to live a life that hurts every single day you keep going. :/
iamprocrastinatingrightnow
made me cry.... i wanted to commit suicide a while ago. something changed my mind. and i have a job, a girlfriend. and i am so damn happy
blissblush
Thats a heavy hit, OP. +1 for posting it.
Blazzical
No, everyone should read THIS post http://static.fjcdn.com/large/pictures/50/78/5078d2_3153501.jpg instead of approving misguided anger
fregeror
Maybe they don't have enough to go to Portugal and waste money on bars and chiks.I can't see how dying on the street is better than suicide
MundaneFacts
IMO chance at a great adventure is worth the risk.
While you are angry at your dead friend, you are probably angrier at yourself for not being the best you could have been. Cry. Move on. Live
dogestyle
This is the plot of a pretty good movie: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0059831/
Lhaley
If you are saddened by this post, swipe left and there's a cute puppy
spikedlemontea
You the real mvp
Nikolai423
Right*
Mastero777
I saw stephen colbert
Crunchybacon
You lied.
theincrediblesloth
saw an octopus opening a jar lid by itself
Isweartogodthecatmademedoit
I get Epic Rap Battles of the Aquarium... which, to be honest, is WAY more reason to live.
Kimmykix
umm, ther'es a picture of hotdogs being made to the left of this post for me... there's a cruel joke here somewhere O.o
DeadGirlSuperstar
Yea reading all the comments was getting a bit too heavy. PUPPY!!!!
PaigeTrail
By golly you're right
sweetpeasoup
a good laugh is needed after reading that again
AgentAC
I am swiping left on my monitor and nothing is happening. Curse you, liar!!
JordanMBraz
Saw a cow who thinks he's a dog.
forgetaboutfrdbhuokui
Liar!
I got hork hork hork
Acalia
And kittens the other way for me :O
Imgonnatipyouwell
I get Hitler.
SadlyRomantic
I hate this post every time anyone with a true conviction with killing themselves will not hesitate over the needs of others.
BoysBecomingMenMenBecomingWolves
As a person who has struggled with depression and have thought about suicide, this is terrifying and the biggest wake up call
SirReginaldDukeOfChutney
"I got my reasons to live, I've worked to figure out what they are, and I'm not just handing them over to you.... If you wanna tap out 1/3
'cuz your life is sh*t, ya know what, it's not your life, it's life ... Life is bigger than you, if you can imagine that. Life isn't 2/3
something that you possess, it's something that you take part in." - Louise CK 3/3
sidgar
Unwilling participant.
cmsport2
Louis CK continues to surprise me with his insightful awesomeness.
dardar2002
Every time I read this it makes me sad. I hope someone who needs to hear it reads it and always remembers it when they need it again.
If only one person does this, than any backlash and ire OP deals with will be worth it.
MrT800
No, fuck *this* post. What if the reason you want to die is because exactly none of those caring people are in your life?
Unless you're literally a terrible person (and not THINK you are), there's SOMEONE that cares. The problem is getting through the =>
Psh, good luck finding them though when you're in a dark place like this. It takes our whole lives to find a soulmate when you're happy, 1/2
What makes you think it's so easy to see who cares when you're not? And don't tell me it takes time. Suicide is a ticking bomb 2/2
<=chemical mess in someone with a mental issue to make them SEE these people are there.
kittytard
i know how you mean. my family would pretend to be sad for the public but be fucking ecstatic i'm finally gone.
Then you should live life 4 yourself. Be greedy. U know that you want to be happy, so remember that suicide kills your chances of happiness.
i'm not suicidal, but i wish i could just give up you know? i don't see the value in me being happy. it's not something i believe i deserve.
well, everyone sucks. you don't deserve happiness any less than any other human on earth. we just all have different faults.
cognitive dissonance sucks >_>
If that's true, than fuck 'em. You're better than them and you prove their stupidity by moving past their idiocy to bigger things.
but.. they're not stupid. they're smart n stuff.
Rakzul
Suicide isn't selfish and one shouldn't romanticize it either. Now for some dark humor. All that aforementioned crying is purely speculative
gerbiltime
Thank you for saying suicide isn't selfish.
ihateyourband
Last time I was in hospital after a failed OD, my mother refused to visit me and when I got home she yelled at me for not doing chores.
bobbi21
That sucks. If you ever need someone to talk to, message me. Noone deserves such a shitty family.
That's awful.
SanSamis
But I don't have any of these people; eg: best friend, mother, etc. But, I do have two children who I will not abandon as such.
I didn't because I saw what it did to everyone around me when my friend killed himself
DoctorMama
Hope is the best medicine against suicide. The hope of a future that includes what you can't wait to experience. Your always=|=your now.
ispentthreehoursthinkingofthis
Lack of hope is one characteristic of depression. In fact, it is hopelessness in what I see in the future that makes me consider this daily.
TheHappyCanadian
I had a friend who didn't kill himself because he was worried what would happen to his cats, thankfully he sought help and is 'better' now
Mewrulez99
I feel awful that this made me laugh, but this made me laugh.
doubleoawesome
i've never had the opportunity to put these two words together, but your comment was weirdly "morbidly adorable"...
RockTheBeaker
As a therapist, when you work with someone who is suicidal, you help them remember this very thing- that there is someone or something
Thegodemperortrump
I don't know why, but ive red it as "As the rapist, when your work with someone...."
2) meaningfully connected to them and they to them or it. It's crucial to get someone to realize they matter.
wombatleader
With me dealing with bad depressing in middle/high school. My cats did more to make me feel better than people. People just insulted me.
funfact: my "friend" is actually me, high-five for surviving
meetingsaramarshall
I don't have those people, either. Or kids. But somebody cares, even if we can't put a name on them. I know this...
ghostie12
-raises hand- I care too. If you need to talk, just PM me :)
MeAndJulio
I care. Even if you don't have those people, you still have people.
ThePsychoEnchanter
I'll always care
NomDePlumage
I care. The whole thing about measuring your own worth by how many people would show up at your funeral is a myth. You have intrinsic worth.
itsmejulia
I care. PM me.
SaintMaceToTheFace
This site maybe full of assholes but we are assholes who care
CanIInterestYouInASarcasticComment
I care too. And someday you will meet sara marshall I know it
breadstickez
I care.
I'm grateful. <3
At least for today, my faith in something bigger than myself is renewed by, you know, all you awesome folks <3
bthighlander
We care. Never met you but I am shedding a tear for you. Please stay strong and know that we love you, meetingsaramarshall.
ifiwereanoscarmayerweinereveryonewouldbeinlovewithme
I care. I don't know you, but I fucking care.
I care. and I'll come with you to find sara marshall if you want too. or mila kunis - I'm honestly fine with both :)
I am actually Sara :)
But I will happily help you adventurously track down FunFolk ya wanna Find :)
oh - well hello Sara! by the way I'm totally stealing FunFolk
Hey, we should make it a thing, yeah? FunFolk for the win ;)
maelstr0m
I have lost a good friend to suicide. +1 for putting into words what I wish I could have told her.
Gymnopedies
I disagree, humbly. If you had told her, she stays but suffers everyday until she died of old age, is that really better? letting go...
...is a form of love too.
It's not an obligation to live. Her life was her own to do as she pleases with. I just wish I could have told her what it meant to us.
Why would you try to help her by making it an obligation to live? What kind of reason to live is that?
holyguacamoleh
I don't think the intention is to guilt them into staying alive but to let them know thay there's someone that cares a heck of a lot, 1/2
Then TELL THEM how much YOU care instead. The picture _is_ about guilting someone into staying around.
and hopefully that's a good enough reason to accept/seek help.
beian
You'd be surprised.
CheesePataflafla
what a clutch post. +1 for you indeed.
RedWineAndSkyrim
needs to be top comment. Seriously
hencethequeef
Note that (in the US at least) if you are a minor or sound like you are at immediate risk for committing suicide, they WILL call 911 on you.
SamKat42
Not just minors but this isn't necessarily a bad thing.
diregamer
They are there to help too.
sassypotatomouse
YOU, my friend, are truly doing gods work
IAmNothingToAnybody
Is it possible to text these numbers? I'm just not comfortable talking to them on the phone...
Sorry only just saw reply, what country are you in? I know some run text services but are different numbers. Try http://blahtherapy.com too
Rainbowfight
My father commited suicide when I was a child. He didn't do it because he was selfish. If anything, my brother and I are what kept him
hanging on that much longer. He was a deeply troubled man. I know it wasn't an easy decision for him, and I don't hate him for it.
Jinxerdog
You are a good person and I wish you the best.
Thanks. That feels pretty good to hear. :)
heresmynameee
My boyfriends father committed suicide at 63. Depression is real. It affects everyone beyond belief. Up voting because I'm crying.
Ihaveaneightinchdickisthatnormal
I've seen this a few times before on here, but I upvote it every time because it's truly worth seeing every time. Plus it needs to be seen.
TrentHatex
This is the first imgur post that I've bookmarked other than favourited,this have certainly stopped me when I was suicidal
illJustPutTheFireOverHereWithTheRestOfTheFire
It made me cry. I've considered suicide so many times and these are all th reasons I'm not dead.
Don't do it. I love you. Your life is worth it. If you ever need someone to talk to, you can always message me.
You have no idea how much I appreciate that. A stranger has never been so kind to me before.
No problem, and I was completely serious. Anytime. You message me anytime. I'm on imgur about every day, so you might have to give me time.
MarquisDeSadeVII
Also, if you ARE going to do it, don't do it by Cop, or by Train. Train drivers go through so much emotional and psychological pain after.
DontEatTheCrabDipYeyay
THIS
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skygodess
I snorted sweet tea out my nose. Thanks!
SindarElla
True dat.
thisisdifficult
All this post does is make a suicide about literally everyone except for the person committing it. That attitude dooms pplwithmental health
Bellamortis
This is exactly how I feel. Props.
drunkfly
I wish I could upvote this more than once.
spikytortoise
That's true but for some people, knowing what it would do to their family and friends is all that stops them from doing something 1/2
A friend of mine deliberately tries to piss off her friends in the hope they'll hate her and she can kill herself without guilt. 2/3
Instead, we help her as much as possible by talking to her and going with her to psych appointments etc. She's getting better now, slowly
NordMan
Well, it IS about everyone else. They are the ones being left behind, alive, in misery because they lost someone, maybe blaming themselves.
I cannot fit my distaste for your comment in three of these boxes, so I'll just let you know that you don't know shit about depression.
In this case, sure, but it delivers the "people care about you" in the wrong way. It should encourage that people reach out, not feel guilty
I guess we just have different opinions on that. To me, this looks like a kick in the butt to look and see there are caring people around
IMPORTANT NOTICE: Seems like people need to be actually TOLD that "kick in the butt" does not actually entail physical violence.
To someone who is suicidal, they usually know that, telling them again won't do much. It's listening to them, and encouraging profes. help
LessThanHumbleScott
This post is bullshit. If you don't want to live then it is your obligation to live for other people's happiness, fuck that bullshit.
stillcleaning
There is truth in that but if you hunting about the people in your life makes you reconsider, then maybe you don't really need to go?
skacoreal
No, it just means you don't want to hurt the people around you. It's not a reason to live, it's a prison.
This is bullshit and the fact that it makes the front page clearly underlines how little you fucks know about suicide and depression.
Thank you!
CandelJack
Is it bad to ask someone to keep living a miserable life just because you don't want to see them go though?
prozendaal
I don't know how to answer this question, but having been through some terrible lows I know it's ok to help them turn themselves around. :-)
foxiesinsoxies
Saying that they regret trying or realize there were other solutions to the problem. But idk. It's hard.
accipiter
Also what about those of us who don't have any of these people (mother, best friend, boyfriend, etc.)? Fuck this post.
drfsupercenter
I guess it depends on the circumstances, I got very depressed and had suicidal thoughts after I got rejected, far from a "miserable life"
I pomder this a lot. The one thing that makes me say no, it isn't bad is that most people who attempt suicide and do not suceed end up
IAmErickson
It depends on the reason. If someone is considering suicide because of depression, they need treatment. Terminal illness: different story.
HastilyConstructedSandwich
a friend of mine killed herself recently due to constant excruciating pain. i think it's selfish for people to expect her to endure that.
iwantashortnameforonceohshit
you seem very compassionate.
Thank you. I believe I understand the burden carried by some, but not all.
arqtype
That's a bit different from killing yourself because you don't think it matters whether you live or die, which is what the top pic implies.
Is it though? Her sister weighed the pros and cons of living and decided the pain is not worth it - similar to the logic of depressed ppl
awardwinningbananaforscale
physical pain is different, because very little can be done to change it - however if circumstance/mood is involved, they CAN be changed
Mental illness is just that - an illness. And there is physical pain involved in it as well as a host of other physical and mental symptoms.
twilightvulpine
Unless you have severe depression and can't get the treatment for whatever reason.
LicensedAdHominem
Because the proper response to "why not?" is "it will get better again." Not true in all cases, but still very often.
itsGood4you
I for one am not satisfied with this emotional bullshit that's been thrown in our faces. Emotions don't solve problems, if you're 1/2
having problems, don't just think positively through them. Reach for help, professionals can really help you. 2/2
Actually studies have shown that acting happy and smiling does improve your mood. That probably won't bring you out of depression though...
This isn't a panacea, it's a band-aid to give the suicidal time to get help. Stop trying to undermine this because he can't solve =>
<=the problem in a single picture. We all know that's not going to happen.
Kocoum
What if you don't have a boyfriend/girlfriend or friends and you're an only child with dead parents...
Batman, is that you?
How did you know...
All this posts serves is to further fucking stigmatize mental health issues and blame the person who is suffering.
Vectron
Suicidally depressed people frequently believe their loved ones to be better off without them. It's not a rational act and they do need help
McKavian
My family would not give a rats ass about me. It is a rational, well thought out, almost obsessive act. And I already know I need help.
Yaminohere
As someone who has tried more than once, & had bipolar that was undiagnosed until recently, +1
To know that people do care and that you killing yourself will impact the world, changes a lot. That's just mt opinion though. 4/4
AnotherImgurianEnglishman
Really it's calling out those who don't suffer from mental illness but romanticise it, aka: Tumblr. (1)
Is a bit stupid. But that is because not enough people tell you how they feel. Something like this post would have saved me 5 years ago.3/?
GreatWhiteNorthEh
Thank you. Like their suffering is justified so long as everyone else isn't inconvenienced by their death as if they're so fucking important
Off topic: Take off, hoser.
And I'm not advocating suicide. It's brutal and ugly and eternal. It is darkness in it's truest form. I know. >>>>
<< But fuck anyone that tries to wield guilt as a weapon against someone in trouble. Guilt is a slow killer. Sack up and help them. /endrant
Thank you. Messages like this just made me hate and resent the people that loved me for a while.
DireSnails
As someone who came *that* close two days ago... I don't know how I feel. It's good to be wanted but it doesn't make it go away.
missmaryMACKMACKMACK
i've been there, and my family wanting me to live when i didn't is what kept me alive long enough to learn that i wanted to live too 1/2
it can and will get easier, but you've got to be willing to talk to someone and do the work it takes. this is the only chance you have 2/3
to walk this earth, to experience this world. don't sell yourself short on the opportunity to make it work for you. :) i'm sorry you hurt.
I'm glad for you. I can't stand the thought of my mom and my boyfriend crying at my funeral.
Deal. It is a huge deal and people do give a fuck if you kill yourself. As someone who has tried to commit suicide, I DO think suicide 2/?
As someone who has a severe anxiety disorder and an eating disorder... This is not at all what it is. It is saying that it ISN'T no big 1/?
darkhound
Suicide is the final act. Don't try suicide before you have tried everything else.
I know of people who have suffered through mental health issues through their forties. That might be a point of "no treatment possible."
Squossifrage
The thought of what my family would go through if I killed myself is what kept me alive and eventually led me to seek help.
(2) people who suffer from depression don't spend their time making #justdepressingthings images for their blog.
Oh, I'm glad you're an expert on these things. Thanks for clearing that up.
SinisterMister
+1 to this. I get depressed regularly, sometimes severely. The last thing I want to do is talk about it with anyone anywhere
Astrophrial
Or, people deal with things in different ways. Especially depression. Just because person A doesn't like talking about it, doesn't (1)
See other comments before continuing.
I read through all your other comments under your first one. I don't see any sort of change in opinion.
mean doing so for person B doesn't help. There's not some sort of checklist for depression and how you're suppose to act. There's a slew (2)
of widely varying symptoms, and widely varying ways of coping. You don't know the people behind the posts, you're just dismissing (3)
them because they don't fit into your personal ideal of what depression is. The number of times I've heard "you don't seem like you have (4)
That isn't a fair thing to say. I know plenty of people who have severe depression who spend their time on Tumblr writing stuff like
Believe me, people who are truly suffering rarely broadcast it. I'm not saying everyone on Tumblr is lying. It's just a site with bad habits
You are making a big assumption here. There is not one way to handle one's own mental issues.Not everyone who claims might be depressed(1/2)
But for one thing there is no lack of actually diagnosed artists whose depression or other ilness becomes part of their work. (2/2)
It's a fair assumption. Tumblr is filled with young self-diagnosers who belittle health issues by romanticising them like an MCR song.
This. You should never say someone doesn't have an illness if you don't know. This further makes hiding mental illness a problem.
You should never say you have a mental illness if you don't know. Broadcasting stuff like this will only exacerbate insecurities of others.
BigBadTCO
I lost my brother to suicide. I'll never forget my mum's scream when the police came to our house and told us.
NotEnoughShowerBeers
As a person who is generally jaded to everything, this made me tear up
IDontSeeEnoughDarkTowerOnImgur
My dad and stepdad both commited suicide. I didn't need these feels today damnit.
AlmightyEnt
Lost my very close cousin when she was 23 to what we think was a OD done on purpose..
zebzebzeb
Sorry to hear that :(
SmerkBich
Lost my sister to suicide. My mom found her. Our family has been torn apart completely.
Argofuckyourself
You'll always have us.
We may be a strange family but we are here for you, send a message, drop a line, you are not alone.
Knitme
I'm so sorry. I can't even imagine what that would be like. :(
One of the hardest things about my friend's suicide is the inescapable image of his parent finding him hanging in their shed
mikeroySoft
Ditto. For me the crusher was seeing my dad fell to his knees, tearing his shirt apart like Hulk Hogan, screaming to the sky... heavy shit.
AceVanquish
My sister died in a train accident at 16. I was 8. Now in my 30s. Still vividly remember my mom collapsing, crying, yell when police came.
ObscureStarWarsReference
Much love to you. My brother was murdered in a murder/suicide. I too know this sound you are talking about.
Jesus that's horrible. I'm so sorry.
Oh my fucking god I'm so sorry. As someone that tried 2x this really hit me hard. I hope no one will ever have to go thru what you went thru
BingeWatcher
Wow, I got chilly just picturing that. My condolences.
Ishdakitty
I was 13 when my dad got the call in the middle of the night that my older brother did it. I didn't get over the loss for over 10 years.
I am so sorry.
CukieMunsters
I am really sorry. That's must be horrible. :(
lascosasquenopodemoscambiar
Im so sorry, buddy
OMGSnakeCase
images that we never forget, be strong... we are with you man...
ThatChicWithAGuysName
I've heard my own mother howl that cry. Its a haunting sound that can only be caused by heartbreak.
YourgirlJim
I'm sorry to hear that. It must be devastating still to this day. Suicide is so painful
cntthinkofasn
That is haunting...
8bitdan
Lost my mom to suicide when I was 4. It's been 25 years and my Grandmother still cries nearly every day. 1/2
She misses her daughter/best friend, but she also still mourns for my brother and I for not growing up with our mother.
Spanishzebra
I'm so sorry dude... Must have been rough
ishouldbedoingsomething
My flatmate has been depressed for 3 years since her brother committed suicide. I don't understand what she's going through but i never 1/2
felt so powerless. 2/2
ZeshV
See that feeling of powerlessness? Now add to it you've lost someone you love and add to that the feeling that you could've stopped them. /1
StrangelyCalm
The important thing to remember about depression is that it's not your job to fix it. It's your responsibility to help them weather it.
Feeling. Even though it wasn't her fault. The sense of powerlessness, regret, and pain are still eating away at her. Just be there for her.
Then add to that, the feeling that you will think that same thing every day and regret that you may or may not have.. That's what she is /2
pookieeatworld
Depression makes everyone feel powerless, including the one suffering from it...
jaybird85
Especially and mainly the one suffering from it. People around that person also suffer, but without a proper diagnosis or steps towards 1/?
change, you could end up in a very bad situation. Ask for help, people around you might not understand what you are going through or 2/?
agrrrrimapirate
Just make sure that person knows you are there for them, no matter what. Even if it is a simple as saying it out loud to their face.
fearandloathebananas
As someone who has pretty much decided to end my life, this thread you started up was fucking hard to read, all the loss and hurt.Thank you.
operationfiscaljackhammer
Suicide does not end the chance of life getting worse, it eliminates the possibility of it ever getting better.
Idonothingwrong
You're worth more to the world and the people in it alive, not death. You're also worth more to yourself.
Thanks,but Im not really out to get sympathy.I wrote it more to let people know that even though you're suicidal,you think about loved ones.
Viewtheentirealbum11imagestotal1remaining
I lost my mother to suicide. I walked past the room where she hanged herself but didn't know... I still think i might have done smth if only
swozey
I woke up to my mother being brought out on a stretcher. Didn't leave my room. I knew and I was numb to it.
ICanHasUzername
You couldn't have done anything. She would have chosen another time, another place. It's not your fault. Please don't blame yourself.
Rationally I have accepted that. Emotionally not. It wasn't her first attempt as she was ill from manic depression and schizophrenia. Thank
you for your kind words. Have a very nice weekend.
You're welcome. I can only imagine how that must of felt & how you must feel now. If you ever need to talk, this Imgur friend is all ears.
I opened the door and looked inside. Instead I went to bed waking up to my father screaming.
h20fuego
Don't blame yourself, ever.
HamGrenade
my brother died from alcohol. when i saw my dad screaming & crying in a fetal position on the kitchen floor is something I will never foget
OldMcRonald
Sorry for your loss
awwes
My sister killed herself. When the police came to the door to tell her, my 5 y/o niece was sitting in the living room watching Dora.
She heard everything, they found her curled up in a ball under my moms bed
Holydarkness
As someone with younger Sisters: that hurts :(
Likescatstoomuch
I'm so sorry.
foxearredasshole
Got the phone call about my Uncle at work. I then got to drive to my Mom's work and tell her since no one could get ahold of her.
bohnsta
That scream.
MatrimBloodyCauthon
For a while I thought I was going on a trip to see my dad when I was 8. I had to find out that we weren't going to see him. Depression sucks
I know people say suicide rates of kids of people who commit suicide are higher, but I'd never put someone through that.
Momof2needsabreak
I didn't eat for a week after my cousin killed himself. He was more like a brother than a cousin. Still hurts after almost 10 years.
Cahcealmmai
I have the exact same memory. So hard to deal with.
batarnak
That gave me chills.
TheSadCafe
I'm so sorry. I'm here if you ever want to talk about him.
tomorrowwillbebetter
Fully body shivers. My condolences.
troyandabedstucktogether
I'm right there with you. I had never seen my dad sob before that day we got the call from my brother's best friend. It's absolute agony.
HarpMaiden
Iv Lost two brothers (not suicide) and I know that sound that my mother made too - but I suffer sever mental health issues and there is 1/2
Nothing more in life that I would like to do than end it all. There is two sides two every story. And mental health is a killer.
drorgin
If you ever need to talk please message me. I'm so proud of you for going on.
Thank you <3
koopaya
This. I had a wife and child when I attempted suicide. I didn't want to die, at all... but you don't think rationally. Just pain.
I can understand that - and many people would call it a selfish move... but they really have no idea of the mental suffering.
CanuckyFriedChicken
As someone with bipolar disorder who was lucky they were attempts, message me any time, day or night. Im on imgur a lot. Id even give u my #
I feel like I'm hearing myself talk...except I only had one brother to lose. It was so much more painful knowing he'd wanted to live.
Yep - I wish I could of traded places and he could of continued a happy life.
stay strong harpmaiden. you are not alone
If you ever need a friend, I will always be available. Suicide is never the answer. You can get through this, you're stronger than you know.
Chernobyl56
Not a suicide per se, but my worst moment as a cop was finding a 20 year old college student who ODed on heroin and having to inform 1/?
makkael
A.K. RIP.
the mother. I have never in my entire life heard despair at that level. That boy's family was decimated. 2/2
MortyMorbid
I am a coroner transport and do not envy that part of your job in the slightest. Im not sure I could handle informing the parents.
In my area the victims advocate does usually, but we got the call from the guys roommate, and the mother met us there...
IThinkWeAllKnowWhoLetTheDogsOut
As a (hopefully) future office, I am terrified of having to do that. Stay strong, friend.
xtazyiam
Not to take away anything from the seriousness of this thread... But good luck in your future escapades as an office...
Yoshiru
decimate is a word meaning to destroy 1 tenth. Was it a family of ten? if so. Statement was quite accurate, it seems. oh and -->
modern usage as "destroy large portion of" yeah yeah, wrong usage changes language... but "deci" is a very clear prefix.
gtaomg
Holy crap decimated doesn't mean what y'all think it means. Not a tenth of something.
arcusprotus
doesn't necessarily have to be a tenth of something, just a large portion of - which works in this case, if taken figuratively.
OhnoDinosaur
googled "define: decimated" got this as the first answer: :kill, destroy, or remove a large percentage or part of." I think that sums it up.
https://www.google.com/search?q=decimated&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
TheJizzle
Vocab game on point
"Go colossal or go domicile" -Baby Kangaroo Tribbiani
AbusiveWankerVEVO
1/10 of them were killed?
chickenboo
Because; dictionary arsehole.
I'm not sure I understand what you are asking.
RoboLuddite
Funnily enough you'll find that a word's meaning can shift slightly in 2000+ years...
I was going to link you a dictionary page showing you that it still meant every 1/10 but turns out you were right. Ain't that some shit.
What the hell is wrong with you?
My empathy was decimated as a child :'(
wowchick
It bothers me when people call suicide selfish. I've been there, I've attempted. You're in so much pain you will do ANYTHING to (1/2)
aguyuno
themselves and yeah. It's a lot harder to see the truth of suicide (that it isn't unselfish) when it's hurt those close to you 2.
Drhoges
It's the most selfish thing you can do unless there is truly no one that cares about you.
typingtreemonkey
It's also selfish to demand someone pro-longs their painful life so you won't feel pain.
Well I'm sure someone that includes that argument in their suicide note is off the hook.
ohshitausername
I don't think it's selfish as much as it is misguided. It's the disease thinking for you. At least that was my experience.
Crononaut
You do not need to suffer from a disease (Eg. depression) to take your own life. There is a limit to how much shit a person can take too
Chocolatesporks
I agree, the disease stops the person from being able to think, it makes choices for you. The illness is selfish, not the sufferer.
ditto12g
I love your definition here. I think people oversimplify a complex and multifaceted problem when they label 1/
either party selfish in the suicide-depression situation. 2/
PurdyPics
It IS selfish because all you can think of is YOURSELF. Having said that, I'm not insensitive to your pain. 1/2
I've felt that pain. The only thing that got me through it is to know it would hurt the ones I love as badly as I was hurting then.
UnpopularOpinionPuffinPersonified
I'm pretty sure considering your own pain without respect to that of others is the very definition of selfishness.
"without respect"- that's the key there. There is plenty of respect, it's the only thing that makes people hold on so long. Its a disease,
one that not everyone lives from. No different than others. You wouldn't chastise and call someone who died of cancer selfish, right?
girlonimgur
I have been there too, tried too, and I can't believe I might have missed out on this amazing life that I have now. It can get better.
I agree wholeheartedly with you on this. I was very young when I did that, and it took a long time for me to get where I am now emotionally
Well I for one am glad that I got to talk to you and share a little of our story.
I agree
We had a brief period where people were like "make an effort to understand depression" and now we're back to "suicide is selfish!" (1)
In the end the person thinking of doing it likely thinks the world would be better off without them. Truly thinks that and believes it. (2)
What other people say doesn't matter, they're not telling the truth. That is the reality for people suffering. (3)
AricNeo
What other people say does matter. It may not seem like it with how much they can be convinced of themselves, but feeling wanted DOES matter
Mental illness sufferers do not think logically. (4.fin)
Bertosaurus
More people need to know this...
kittykatjkr
I have sat with a gun to my head, and the only thing that saved me was the horrifying thought of my parents finding my dead body..
Ugh it's difficult. What's worst, missing person report (so they won't find it) or finding out what you did. I've weighed so many options.
One of the things that stop me is worrying that no one will take care of my cats.
MyNipplesLookLikeMilkDuds
It is selfish. You can't really deny that. The problem here is that everyone surrounds the word "selfish" with a negative connotation, (1)
Do people call someone who died of cancer selfish? No. Because they died of a disease. A terrible, terrible disease. Depression takes 1/2
but it CAN be dealt with and things can and will get better if you let them. But because of the actions you take with suicide, your (13)
make it any less of a selfish action. Sorry for the novel, I had a lot on my mind that couldn't be said in 140 characters or less haha. (15)
both started taking anti-depressants. He came to me multiple times saying that he was scared of what he might do to himself if the pain (10)
prevent it from happening. Same thing with his mom and sister. He and his sister started dealing with depression because of it, (9)
it would have destroyed all that was left of his family, as well as me. So yes, the pain you go through with depression isn't easy, (12)
multiple people who have killed themselves and everyone of their losses was greatly mourned and destroyed a lot of people. My best (7)
anymore. Which is selfish. Now is it bad and does it make you a horrible person? No. That's where the distinction needs to be made. (4)
didn't go away. He was not in his right mind after his dad died. And he contemplated suicide. Had he killed himself because of it, (11)
something to think about though: your action of committing suicide will, 99% of the time, drastically affect other people. I've known (6)
You can be selfish and not be a dick. People are selfish literally all the time and a lot of those people are awesome people. Now here's (5)
friend's dad killed himself in 2010 and it wrecked him. He kept blaming himself, thinking there was something he could have done to (8)
is, by definition, selfish. Your acting out of the best interest of yourself; you want the pain to end so you don't have to deal with it (3)
because it often times is negative. But taking *your* life because of things that only *you* are dealing with and are only hurting *you* (2)
pain just spread to countless others ten fold. So yes, it is selfish. Is it understandable? Yeah, it sadly is. But that doesn't (14)
2) away the most deeply rooted instinct in human nature- the will to survive. It is a sick, deadly disease and some just cant win the fight.
You're missing my point. I'm making a distinction between selfishness and being self-centered. Suicide is selfish, not self-centered. (1)
the whole cancer thing: people with cancer seek treatment. It doesn't always work, same with therapy. But you should at least try to (3)
fight. People who get cancer treatment can survive. Same with those who are depressed and seek treatment. Depression can be fought.
Selfishness just means acting out of one's best interest. Self-centered means you care about nothing but yourself. But in response to (2)
While I agree with you entirely, the ONE THING I'll point out is that it sounds like whoever wrote this had someone in their life kill 1
I've lost friends to suicide, including one VERY close friend. I knew exactly where they were coming from when talking about survivor's pain
I believe it, and I dont question you; I'm just saying, especially if OP's case was recent, you can understand why he's so bitter, you know?
BenderBenderBender
I agree that selfish isn't the right word and distracts from the real message. Our lives are intertwined and maybe by remembering that (1/2)
(2/2) it could be enough to get someone through a dark times. I know it has for me.
azurepenguin
I guess we could agree at least that is if selfish to romanticize it?
eronth
Selfish how? Like... what do I selfishly gain by romanticizing suicide?
ro·man·ti·cize verb deal with or describe in an idealized or unrealistic fashion; make seem better or more appealing than it really is
neat. what am I gaining from this? Where is "selfish" relevant.
That's just the thing, when you're feeling like that, it really does seem that appealing. 1/2
It's bad if someone not feeling it says this (romanticizing/encouraging) but if this is someone expressing their feeling they need an outlet
make it stop. That's not selfish, that's being at the end of what you can endure. (2/2)
Joonbugs92
It's tunnel vision. You can only see your hurt, your sorrow, your helplessness... it blinds you of what is around that tunnel vision (1)
which is exactly who you're going to hurt. It's not intentionally selfish. Depression, that is what is truly selfish, not the person per se.
opad
People saying its selfish seem to want someone to live an unhappy life for decades so they don't deal with loss. That's also selfish.
People confuse selfish and self-centered a lot, I think. Suicide is VERY self-centered, usually because mental illness blinds beyond the =>
<=self at those times. It's not that they don't want to see past themselves; at that moment, they can't.
Adnarime
I disagree, on the grounds of "selfish" being treated like an evil word. Thinking of yourself ... is self-ish. Suicide is selfish period dot
frankenteddy
Ive been there, still think its a bit selfish. Reason i failed?I imagined my fathers face when he found out. Tore my heart out.Called help.
divabutterfly
I think it can be both - being the end of what you can endure, as well as selfish. Doesn't have to be one or the other.
ShakeDog
My thoughts exactly. Why should I have to endure every minute of my misery just so they won't have to grieve for a while?
itsybitsyspider
"grieve for a while" Fuck that. Grieving and the loss HAUNTS you for the rest of your life. It enters your mind when your mind when you --
-- wake up. It weighs on your shoulder all day and then can haunt your dreams at night. Even if the emotions and pain goes away, the fact --
-- that your loved one is gone and you may(or will if you believe in no life after death) never see them again is enough to tear you apart -
Dealing with the suicide of a loved one goes far beyond grieving. It's not like cancer or something where you see it coming and can prepare.
You're left in the wake of that person's decision, constantly asking yourself what you could have done to prevent it, blaming yourself.
pixelsnader
So, for whom did you attempt? For yourself or for others?
My mental illness has made it so I can't feel any attachment to my own existence. The only thing that DOES keep me alive is knowing I would>
>hurt others by ending it. Literally every minute of my existence is dedicated to protecting others from grief. When I have come close, it>
>was a moment of out-of-my-mind weakness where I literally couldn't think about anything but making the pain stop NOW.
Iceteck
I've also been there, although never as far as attempting, and it bothers me when people say suicide isn't selfish! The distinction for me
is that the act is selfish, but I have no blame for the people who do it because they thought it was the only option. It's important to me
that people don't go around saying suicide isn't selfish, or even worse that it's selfless because if suicide isn't selfish it sort of
can make it seem like a more valid option to make the pain go away, if that makes sense? 'suicide is selfish' is one of the reasons to keep
It isn't purposely selfish, it's closed minded - you're hurting so much, you can't see how much you'll hurt others. I've been there.
Meeploo
Even when you do think of others, you just feel like you're not good enough for them, or they would be better off without you. It's twisted.
But on the other hand, if people know about your illness, they'll hurt from that, too. You're damned if you do, you're damned if you don't.
sandshrew
Knowing you're sick is to knowing your dead as getting a papercut is to losing an arm.
babybirdhome
That's true, I don't disagree with you, but to the suicidal, it's the opposite. Living is like losing an arm, suicide is like a papercut. :\
This exactly. I wish everyone looked it at this way.
spasian
For me, it wasn't about being unhappy or miserable. At some point those don't seem significant anymore. It was just about being done.
The hopelessness....the fucking hopelessness. When you wake up one day and you don't feel like trying because your "know" it won't improve
ZorroMuerte
I've been there, I'm still there. It really sucks I sometimes can't feel a damn thing but I go on only for my little bro and mom...
ArcaneM37
I agree whole-heartedly with you. I also agree whole-heartedly with the bottom text here and say fuck the first image. Depression is a 1/2
2/2 disease that can result in death, and that is a terrible thing for everyone involved, but the first image is saying that it wouldn't 1/?
matter if they died. That's the selfish part - believing that the loss of you won't effect anyone or that your pain is greater than theirs.
(That's all. Disregard fucky numbering - I'm tired.)
HackerJacker
It IS selfish though, it is a decision you make for yourself and no-one else. That in no way belittles the pain you felt, just a fact. 1/2
It is selfish, but it isn't really a decision the person makes for themselves, the disease makes it for them. It literally stops the 1/2
CatrionaShadowleaf
They will never have to worry about me again. Why wouldn't I release them from that constant nagging fear? Why shouldn't I free them?
chandlerstreetfilms
Depression doesn't work like that. Those who are suicidal feel that killing themselves will be the best decision for EVERYONE, not just them
I never said they don't. The decision is till selfish even of the sufferer feels it isnt.
It may objectively seem selfish, but the act isn't performed selfishly. It's useless to see it that way.
MyHorseAteMyPaycheck
But it's not selfish of family/friends to demand the person keep on struggling/hurting just so that THEY don't have to struggle/hurt?
I never said that, those thigns are selfish too, every decision made purely for ones self is selfish
ADisturbedOne
It can be in some ways, but mainly, no it is not selfish, because its selfish to stay alive with "illness" calls depression. No way out.
Just doing it for other people, but if you're seriously depressed and no type of helps have done anything for you, then let them.
Nobody should blame you for reaching the end of your limit of course, but it is definitely an act of self to release the pain.
Repostradamus
I think many people don't realize that the pain never actually goes away. It just gets inherited by their loved ones.
TiniestHippo
Isn't it an act of selfishness to try to keep someone in pain and anguish so that you don't feel sad/guilty about their death?
Lordcerii
Holy shit. This. So much this.
I would give you a billions +1's for this if I could.
That's taking on the presupposition that things will never get better. Most who deal with depressive episodes get out of it eventually.
ImEdd
Well, this post is a douchebag post. Half the times, the people who commit suicide can't relate to a single one of those.
ISleptWithSomeoneFromImgurAndAllIGotWasThisStupidUsername
i get that. a lot of times suicide can stem from isolation/abuse. it's hard to find a life worth living with those things. BUT i think it's
more of a response to tumblr's glorification of mental illness and suicide.
TheFoamFish
I'm surprised they just assume they have a SO.
Yeahmynameisshe
I'm surprised they assume that they have friends.
TheFlyingSheep
The post is more of a "fuck you tumblr stop romanticizing" a very horrible thing
Is this a fact or an assumption? In my experience, most of time they do feel all of those things, but their own pain is too intense
Assuming based on my society. I guess this isn't common in other societies.
vaaat is your society mr. dude
I could go on but I don't want to flood your replies with sad story. So, to make up for that: cats and boobs. That's what keeps me alive :P
Somewhere in a ghetto in southeast asia. people who suicide are the ones who don't have anybody to love them.
fair enough. Damn. I can't even imagine what that would feel like
It's just sad how people pity suicide because sometimes I think if people don't idolize people who suicide there would be less suicides.
Suicide is a coping mechanism for people with mental health disorders. Medically, we don't know how to treat them properly. Then, they die.
Or sometimes people suicide because of exams or a breakup. These type suicides don't get pity here at all.
Those usually stem from pressure, from family, society, friends. Built up over years. Or, anxiety, a pretty serious mental health issue
L0L5ever
THIS. I FUCKING NEEDED THIS
ThatOneGuyWhoDidThatOneThingAtThatOnePlaceThatOneTime
Romanticized suicide is terrible, but let us not forget
The human mind is a complicated and fragile thing
Cellidor
It's the difference between choice to people. Someone with a terminal illness can't stop their death, but suicide requires killing oneself.
StonesOnTheHill
Valid Question, Valid Answer, Changes Nothing, Life Goes On. Or not. It's up to you.
YamatoIouko
As a man once said, "We create our own purpose in life. Now go create yours."
olegh
Ok, this is utter shit. Don't live your life for others, live it for yourself. YOU deserve a good life. That's why you shouldn't give up.
jlindquist74
True, but we don't always get what we deserve. And we may find ourselves in circumstances where we no longer have the means to change that.
Mylemonhurts
This post assumes everyone has people that care about them.
flight815down
I held my sister as she sobbed because a regular at her waitressing gig had killed himself. People will always care
ReginaldCuftbert
For some people, it's a choice between hurting others or continuing to live a life that hurts every single day you keep going. :/
iamprocrastinatingrightnow
made me cry.... i wanted to commit suicide a while ago. something changed my mind. and i have a job, a girlfriend. and i am so damn happy
blissblush
Thats a heavy hit, OP. +1 for posting it.
Blazzical
No, everyone should read THIS post http://static.fjcdn.com/large/pictures/50/78/5078d2_3153501.jpg instead of approving misguided anger
fregeror
Maybe they don't have enough to go to Portugal and waste money on bars and chiks.I can't see how dying on the street is better than suicide
MundaneFacts
IMO chance at a great adventure is worth the risk.
Blazzical
While you are angry at your dead friend, you are probably angrier at yourself for not being the best you could have been. Cry. Move on. Live
dogestyle
This is the plot of a pretty good movie: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0059831/
Lhaley
If you are saddened by this post, swipe left and there's a cute puppy
spikedlemontea
You the real mvp
Nikolai423
Right*
Mastero777
I saw stephen colbert
Crunchybacon
You lied.
theincrediblesloth
saw an octopus opening a jar lid by itself
Isweartogodthecatmademedoit
I get Epic Rap Battles of the Aquarium... which, to be honest, is WAY more reason to live.
Kimmykix
umm, ther'es a picture of hotdogs being made to the left of this post for me... there's a cruel joke here somewhere O.o
DeadGirlSuperstar
Yea reading all the comments was getting a bit too heavy. PUPPY!!!!
PaigeTrail
By golly you're right
sweetpeasoup
a good laugh is needed after reading that again
AgentAC
I am swiping left on my monitor and nothing is happening. Curse you, liar!!
JordanMBraz
Saw a cow who thinks he's a dog.
forgetaboutfrdbhuokui
Liar!
forgetaboutfrdbhuokui
I got hork hork hork
Acalia
And kittens the other way for me :O
Imgonnatipyouwell
I get Hitler.
SadlyRomantic
I hate this post every time anyone with a true conviction with killing themselves will not hesitate over the needs of others.
BoysBecomingMenMenBecomingWolves
As a person who has struggled with depression and have thought about suicide, this is terrifying and the biggest wake up call
SirReginaldDukeOfChutney
"I got my reasons to live, I've worked to figure out what they are, and I'm not just handing them over to you.... If you wanna tap out 1/3
SirReginaldDukeOfChutney
'cuz your life is sh*t, ya know what, it's not your life, it's life ... Life is bigger than you, if you can imagine that. Life isn't 2/3
SirReginaldDukeOfChutney
something that you possess, it's something that you take part in." - Louise CK 3/3
sidgar
Unwilling participant.
cmsport2
Louis CK continues to surprise me with his insightful awesomeness.
dardar2002
Every time I read this it makes me sad. I hope someone who needs to hear it reads it and always remembers it when they need it again.
cmsport2
If only one person does this, than any backlash and ire OP deals with will be worth it.
MrT800
No, fuck *this* post. What if the reason you want to die is because exactly none of those caring people are in your life?
YamatoIouko
Unless you're literally a terrible person (and not THINK you are), there's SOMEONE that cares. The problem is getting through the =>
fregeror
Psh, good luck finding them though when you're in a dark place like this. It takes our whole lives to find a soulmate when you're happy, 1/2
fregeror
What makes you think it's so easy to see who cares when you're not? And don't tell me it takes time. Suicide is a ticking bomb 2/2
YamatoIouko
<=chemical mess in someone with a mental issue to make them SEE these people are there.
kittytard
i know how you mean. my family would pretend to be sad for the public but be fucking ecstatic i'm finally gone.
MundaneFacts
Then you should live life 4 yourself. Be greedy. U know that you want to be happy, so remember that suicide kills your chances of happiness.
kittytard
i'm not suicidal, but i wish i could just give up you know? i don't see the value in me being happy. it's not something i believe i deserve.
MundaneFacts
well, everyone sucks. you don't deserve happiness any less than any other human on earth. we just all have different faults.
kittytard
cognitive dissonance sucks >_>
cmsport2
If that's true, than fuck 'em. You're better than them and you prove their stupidity by moving past their idiocy to bigger things.
kittytard
but.. they're not stupid. they're smart n stuff.
Rakzul
Suicide isn't selfish and one shouldn't romanticize it either. Now for some dark humor. All that aforementioned crying is purely speculative
gerbiltime
Thank you for saying suicide isn't selfish.
ihateyourband
Last time I was in hospital after a failed OD, my mother refused to visit me and when I got home she yelled at me for not doing chores.
bobbi21
That sucks. If you ever need someone to talk to, message me. Noone deserves such a shitty family.
Rakzul
That's awful.
SanSamis
But I don't have any of these people; eg: best friend, mother, etc. But, I do have two children who I will not abandon as such.
flight815down
I didn't because I saw what it did to everyone around me when my friend killed himself
DoctorMama
Hope is the best medicine against suicide. The hope of a future that includes what you can't wait to experience. Your always=|=your now.
ispentthreehoursthinkingofthis
Lack of hope is one characteristic of depression. In fact, it is hopelessness in what I see in the future that makes me consider this daily.
TheHappyCanadian
I had a friend who didn't kill himself because he was worried what would happen to his cats, thankfully he sought help and is 'better' now
Mewrulez99
I feel awful that this made me laugh, but this made me laugh.
doubleoawesome
i've never had the opportunity to put these two words together, but your comment was weirdly "morbidly adorable"...
RockTheBeaker
As a therapist, when you work with someone who is suicidal, you help them remember this very thing- that there is someone or something
Thegodemperortrump
I don't know why, but ive red it as "As the rapist, when your work with someone...."
RockTheBeaker
2) meaningfully connected to them and they to them or it. It's crucial to get someone to realize they matter.
wombatleader
With me dealing with bad depressing in middle/high school. My cats did more to make me feel better than people. People just insulted me.
TheHappyCanadian
funfact: my "friend" is actually me, high-five for surviving
meetingsaramarshall
I don't have those people, either. Or kids. But somebody cares, even if we can't put a name on them. I know this...
ghostie12
-raises hand- I care too. If you need to talk, just PM me :)
MeAndJulio
I care. Even if you don't have those people, you still have people.
ThePsychoEnchanter
I'll always care
NomDePlumage
I care. The whole thing about measuring your own worth by how many people would show up at your funeral is a myth. You have intrinsic worth.
itsmejulia
I care. PM me.
SaintMaceToTheFace
This site maybe full of assholes but we are assholes who care
CanIInterestYouInASarcasticComment
I care too. And someday you will meet sara marshall I know it
breadstickez
I care.
meetingsaramarshall
I'm grateful. <3
meetingsaramarshall
At least for today, my faith in something bigger than myself is renewed by, you know, all you awesome folks <3
bthighlander
We care. Never met you but I am shedding a tear for you. Please stay strong and know that we love you, meetingsaramarshall.
ifiwereanoscarmayerweinereveryonewouldbeinlovewithme
I care. I don't know you, but I fucking care.
doubleoawesome
I care. and I'll come with you to find sara marshall if you want too. or mila kunis - I'm honestly fine with both :)
meetingsaramarshall
I am actually Sara :)
meetingsaramarshall
But I will happily help you adventurously track down FunFolk ya wanna Find :)
doubleoawesome
oh - well hello Sara! by the way I'm totally stealing FunFolk
meetingsaramarshall
Hey, we should make it a thing, yeah? FunFolk for the win ;)
maelstr0m
I have lost a good friend to suicide. +1 for putting into words what I wish I could have told her.
Gymnopedies
I disagree, humbly. If you had told her, she stays but suffers everyday until she died of old age, is that really better? letting go...
Gymnopedies
...is a form of love too.
maelstr0m
It's not an obligation to live. Her life was her own to do as she pleases with. I just wish I could have told her what it meant to us.
olegh
Why would you try to help her by making it an obligation to live? What kind of reason to live is that?
maelstr0m
It's not an obligation to live. Her life was her own to do as she pleases with. I just wish I could have told her what it meant to us.
holyguacamoleh
I don't think the intention is to guilt them into staying alive but to let them know thay there's someone that cares a heck of a lot, 1/2
olegh
Then TELL THEM how much YOU care instead. The picture _is_ about guilting someone into staying around.
holyguacamoleh
and hopefully that's a good enough reason to accept/seek help.
beian
You'd be surprised.
CheesePataflafla
doubleoawesome
what a clutch post. +1 for you indeed.
RedWineAndSkyrim
needs to be top comment. Seriously
hencethequeef
Note that (in the US at least) if you are a minor or sound like you are at immediate risk for committing suicide, they WILL call 911 on you.
SamKat42
Not just minors but this isn't necessarily a bad thing.
diregamer
They are there to help too.
sassypotatomouse
YOU, my friend, are truly doing gods work
IAmNothingToAnybody
Is it possible to text these numbers? I'm just not comfortable talking to them on the phone...
CheesePataflafla
Sorry only just saw reply, what country are you in? I know some run text services but are different numbers. Try http://blahtherapy.com too
Rainbowfight
My father commited suicide when I was a child. He didn't do it because he was selfish. If anything, my brother and I are what kept him
Rainbowfight
hanging on that much longer. He was a deeply troubled man. I know it wasn't an easy decision for him, and I don't hate him for it.
Jinxerdog
You are a good person and I wish you the best.
Rainbowfight
Thanks. That feels pretty good to hear. :)
heresmynameee
My boyfriends father committed suicide at 63. Depression is real. It affects everyone beyond belief. Up voting because I'm crying.
Ihaveaneightinchdickisthatnormal
I've seen this a few times before on here, but I upvote it every time because it's truly worth seeing every time. Plus it needs to be seen.
TrentHatex
This is the first imgur post that I've bookmarked other than favourited,this have certainly stopped me when I was suicidal
illJustPutTheFireOverHereWithTheRestOfTheFire
It made me cry. I've considered suicide so many times and these are all th reasons I'm not dead.
Ihaveaneightinchdickisthatnormal
Don't do it. I love you. Your life is worth it. If you ever need someone to talk to, you can always message me.
illJustPutTheFireOverHereWithTheRestOfTheFire
You have no idea how much I appreciate that. A stranger has never been so kind to me before.
Ihaveaneightinchdickisthatnormal
No problem, and I was completely serious. Anytime. You message me anytime. I'm on imgur about every day, so you might have to give me time.
MarquisDeSadeVII
Also, if you ARE going to do it, don't do it by Cop, or by Train. Train drivers go through so much emotional and psychological pain after.
DontEatTheCrabDipYeyay
THIS
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skygodess
I snorted sweet tea out my nose. Thanks!
SindarElla
True dat.
thisisdifficult
All this post does is make a suicide about literally everyone except for the person committing it. That attitude dooms pplwithmental health
Bellamortis
This is exactly how I feel. Props.
drunkfly
I wish I could upvote this more than once.
spikytortoise
That's true but for some people, knowing what it would do to their family and friends is all that stops them from doing something 1/2
spikytortoise
A friend of mine deliberately tries to piss off her friends in the hope they'll hate her and she can kill herself without guilt. 2/3
spikytortoise
Instead, we help her as much as possible by talking to her and going with her to psych appointments etc. She's getting better now, slowly
NordMan
Well, it IS about everyone else. They are the ones being left behind, alive, in misery because they lost someone, maybe blaming themselves.
Bellamortis
I cannot fit my distaste for your comment in three of these boxes, so I'll just let you know that you don't know shit about depression.
thisisdifficult
In this case, sure, but it delivers the "people care about you" in the wrong way. It should encourage that people reach out, not feel guilty
NordMan
I guess we just have different opinions on that. To me, this looks like a kick in the butt to look and see there are caring people around
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NordMan
IMPORTANT NOTICE: Seems like people need to be actually TOLD that "kick in the butt" does not actually entail physical violence.
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thisisdifficult
To someone who is suicidal, they usually know that, telling them again won't do much. It's listening to them, and encouraging profes. help
LessThanHumbleScott
This post is bullshit. If you don't want to live then it is your obligation to live for other people's happiness, fuck that bullshit.
stillcleaning
There is truth in that but if you hunting about the people in your life makes you reconsider, then maybe you don't really need to go?
skacoreal
No, it just means you don't want to hurt the people around you. It's not a reason to live, it's a prison.
Bellamortis
This is bullshit and the fact that it makes the front page clearly underlines how little you fucks know about suicide and depression.
Jinxerdog
Thank you!
CandelJack
Is it bad to ask someone to keep living a miserable life just because you don't want to see them go though?
prozendaal
I don't know how to answer this question, but having been through some terrible lows I know it's ok to help them turn themselves around. :-)
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foxiesinsoxies
Saying that they regret trying or realize there were other solutions to the problem. But idk. It's hard.
accipiter
Also what about those of us who don't have any of these people (mother, best friend, boyfriend, etc.)? Fuck this post.
drfsupercenter
I guess it depends on the circumstances, I got very depressed and had suicidal thoughts after I got rejected, far from a "miserable life"
foxiesinsoxies
I pomder this a lot. The one thing that makes me say no, it isn't bad is that most people who attempt suicide and do not suceed end up
IAmErickson
It depends on the reason. If someone is considering suicide because of depression, they need treatment. Terminal illness: different story.
HastilyConstructedSandwich
a friend of mine killed herself recently due to constant excruciating pain. i think it's selfish for people to expect her to endure that.
iwantashortnameforonceohshit
you seem very compassionate.
HastilyConstructedSandwich
Thank you. I believe I understand the burden carried by some, but not all.
arqtype
That's a bit different from killing yourself because you don't think it matters whether you live or die, which is what the top pic implies.
Gymnopedies
Is it though? Her sister weighed the pros and cons of living and decided the pain is not worth it - similar to the logic of depressed ppl
awardwinningbananaforscale
physical pain is different, because very little can be done to change it - however if circumstance/mood is involved, they CAN be changed
hencethequeef
Mental illness is just that - an illness. And there is physical pain involved in it as well as a host of other physical and mental symptoms.
twilightvulpine
Unless you have severe depression and can't get the treatment for whatever reason.
LicensedAdHominem
Because the proper response to "why not?" is "it will get better again." Not true in all cases, but still very often.
itsGood4you
I for one am not satisfied with this emotional bullshit that's been thrown in our faces. Emotions don't solve problems, if you're 1/2
itsGood4you
having problems, don't just think positively through them. Reach for help, professionals can really help you. 2/2
MundaneFacts
Actually studies have shown that acting happy and smiling does improve your mood. That probably won't bring you out of depression though...
YamatoIouko
This isn't a panacea, it's a band-aid to give the suicidal time to get help. Stop trying to undermine this because he can't solve =>
YamatoIouko
<=the problem in a single picture. We all know that's not going to happen.
Kocoum
What if you don't have a boyfriend/girlfriend or friends and you're an only child with dead parents...
MundaneFacts
Then you should live life 4 yourself. Be greedy. U know that you want to be happy, so remember that suicide kills your chances of happiness.
drfsupercenter
Batman, is that you?
Kocoum
How did you know...
thisisdifficult
All this posts serves is to further fucking stigmatize mental health issues and blame the person who is suffering.
Vectron
Suicidally depressed people frequently believe their loved ones to be better off without them. It's not a rational act and they do need help
McKavian
My family would not give a rats ass about me. It is a rational, well thought out, almost obsessive act. And I already know I need help.
Yaminohere
As someone who has tried more than once, & had bipolar that was undiagnosed until recently, +1
foxiesinsoxies
To know that people do care and that you killing yourself will impact the world, changes a lot. That's just mt opinion though. 4/4
AnotherImgurianEnglishman
Really it's calling out those who don't suffer from mental illness but romanticise it, aka: Tumblr. (1)
foxiesinsoxies
Is a bit stupid. But that is because not enough people tell you how they feel. Something like this post would have saved me 5 years ago.3/?
GreatWhiteNorthEh
Thank you. Like their suffering is justified so long as everyone else isn't inconvenienced by their death as if they're so fucking important
McKavian
Off topic: Take off, hoser.
GreatWhiteNorthEh
And I'm not advocating suicide. It's brutal and ugly and eternal. It is darkness in it's truest form. I know. >>>>
GreatWhiteNorthEh
<< But fuck anyone that tries to wield guilt as a weapon against someone in trouble. Guilt is a slow killer. Sack up and help them. /endrant
hencethequeef
Thank you. Messages like this just made me hate and resent the people that loved me for a while.
DireSnails
As someone who came *that* close two days ago... I don't know how I feel. It's good to be wanted but it doesn't make it go away.
missmaryMACKMACKMACK
i've been there, and my family wanting me to live when i didn't is what kept me alive long enough to learn that i wanted to live too 1/2
missmaryMACKMACKMACK
it can and will get easier, but you've got to be willing to talk to someone and do the work it takes. this is the only chance you have 2/3
missmaryMACKMACKMACK
to walk this earth, to experience this world. don't sell yourself short on the opportunity to make it work for you. :) i'm sorry you hurt.
DireSnails
I'm glad for you. I can't stand the thought of my mom and my boyfriend crying at my funeral.
foxiesinsoxies
Deal. It is a huge deal and people do give a fuck if you kill yourself. As someone who has tried to commit suicide, I DO think suicide 2/?
foxiesinsoxies
As someone who has a severe anxiety disorder and an eating disorder... This is not at all what it is. It is saying that it ISN'T no big 1/?
darkhound
Suicide is the final act. Don't try suicide before you have tried everything else.
darkhound
I know of people who have suffered through mental health issues through their forties. That might be a point of "no treatment possible."
Squossifrage
The thought of what my family would go through if I killed myself is what kept me alive and eventually led me to seek help.
AnotherImgurianEnglishman
(2) people who suffer from depression don't spend their time making #justdepressingthings images for their blog.
ihateyourband
Oh, I'm glad you're an expert on these things. Thanks for clearing that up.
SinisterMister
+1 to this. I get depressed regularly, sometimes severely. The last thing I want to do is talk about it with anyone anywhere
Astrophrial
Or, people deal with things in different ways. Especially depression. Just because person A doesn't like talking about it, doesn't (1)
AnotherImgurianEnglishman
See other comments before continuing.
Astrophrial
I read through all your other comments under your first one. I don't see any sort of change in opinion.
Astrophrial
mean doing so for person B doesn't help. There's not some sort of checklist for depression and how you're suppose to act. There's a slew (2)
Astrophrial
of widely varying symptoms, and widely varying ways of coping. You don't know the people behind the posts, you're just dismissing (3)
Astrophrial
them because they don't fit into your personal ideal of what depression is. The number of times I've heard "you don't seem like you have (4)
foxiesinsoxies
That isn't a fair thing to say. I know plenty of people who have severe depression who spend their time on Tumblr writing stuff like
AnotherImgurianEnglishman
Believe me, people who are truly suffering rarely broadcast it. I'm not saying everyone on Tumblr is lying. It's just a site with bad habits
twilightvulpine
You are making a big assumption here. There is not one way to handle one's own mental issues.Not everyone who claims might be depressed(1/2)
twilightvulpine
But for one thing there is no lack of actually diagnosed artists whose depression or other ilness becomes part of their work. (2/2)
AnotherImgurianEnglishman
It's a fair assumption. Tumblr is filled with young self-diagnosers who belittle health issues by romanticising them like an MCR song.
foxiesinsoxies
This. You should never say someone doesn't have an illness if you don't know. This further makes hiding mental illness a problem.
AnotherImgurianEnglishman
You should never say you have a mental illness if you don't know. Broadcasting stuff like this will only exacerbate insecurities of others.
BigBadTCO
I lost my brother to suicide. I'll never forget my mum's scream when the police came to our house and told us.
NotEnoughShowerBeers
As a person who is generally jaded to everything, this made me tear up
IDontSeeEnoughDarkTowerOnImgur
My dad and stepdad both commited suicide. I didn't need these feels today damnit.
AlmightyEnt
Lost my very close cousin when she was 23 to what we think was a OD done on purpose..
zebzebzeb
Sorry to hear that :(
SmerkBich
Lost my sister to suicide. My mom found her. Our family has been torn apart completely.
Argofuckyourself
You'll always have us.
diregamer
We may be a strange family but we are here for you, send a message, drop a line, you are not alone.
Knitme
I'm so sorry. I can't even imagine what that would be like. :(
flight815down
One of the hardest things about my friend's suicide is the inescapable image of his parent finding him hanging in their shed
mikeroySoft
Ditto. For me the crusher was seeing my dad fell to his knees, tearing his shirt apart like Hulk Hogan, screaming to the sky... heavy shit.
AceVanquish
My sister died in a train accident at 16. I was 8. Now in my 30s. Still vividly remember my mom collapsing, crying, yell when police came.
ObscureStarWarsReference
Much love to you. My brother was murdered in a murder/suicide. I too know this sound you are talking about.
Argofuckyourself
Jesus that's horrible. I'm so sorry.
sassypotatomouse
Oh my fucking god I'm so sorry. As someone that tried 2x this really hit me hard. I hope no one will ever have to go thru what you went thru
BingeWatcher
Wow, I got chilly just picturing that. My condolences.
Ishdakitty
I was 13 when my dad got the call in the middle of the night that my older brother did it. I didn't get over the loss for over 10 years.
Argofuckyourself
I am so sorry.
CukieMunsters
I am really sorry. That's must be horrible. :(
lascosasquenopodemoscambiar
Im so sorry, buddy
OMGSnakeCase
images that we never forget, be strong... we are with you man...
ThatChicWithAGuysName
I've heard my own mother howl that cry. Its a haunting sound that can only be caused by heartbreak.
YourgirlJim
I'm sorry to hear that. It must be devastating still to this day. Suicide is so painful
cntthinkofasn
That is haunting...
8bitdan
Lost my mom to suicide when I was 4. It's been 25 years and my Grandmother still cries nearly every day. 1/2
8bitdan
She misses her daughter/best friend, but she also still mourns for my brother and I for not growing up with our mother.
Spanishzebra
I'm so sorry dude... Must have been rough
ishouldbedoingsomething
My flatmate has been depressed for 3 years since her brother committed suicide. I don't understand what she's going through but i never 1/2
ishouldbedoingsomething
felt so powerless. 2/2
ZeshV
See that feeling of powerlessness? Now add to it you've lost someone you love and add to that the feeling that you could've stopped them. /1
StrangelyCalm
The important thing to remember about depression is that it's not your job to fix it. It's your responsibility to help them weather it.
ZeshV
Feeling. Even though it wasn't her fault. The sense of powerlessness, regret, and pain are still eating away at her. Just be there for her.
ZeshV
Then add to that, the feeling that you will think that same thing every day and regret that you may or may not have.. That's what she is /2
pookieeatworld
Depression makes everyone feel powerless, including the one suffering from it...
jaybird85
Especially and mainly the one suffering from it. People around that person also suffer, but without a proper diagnosis or steps towards 1/?
jaybird85
change, you could end up in a very bad situation. Ask for help, people around you might not understand what you are going through or 2/?
agrrrrimapirate
Just make sure that person knows you are there for them, no matter what. Even if it is a simple as saying it out loud to their face.
fearandloathebananas
As someone who has pretty much decided to end my life, this thread you started up was fucking hard to read, all the loss and hurt.Thank you.
operationfiscaljackhammer
Suicide does not end the chance of life getting worse, it eliminates the possibility of it ever getting better.
Idonothingwrong
You're worth more to the world and the people in it alive, not death. You're also worth more to yourself.
fearandloathebananas
Thanks,but Im not really out to get sympathy.I wrote it more to let people know that even though you're suicidal,you think about loved ones.
Viewtheentirealbum11imagestotal1remaining
I lost my mother to suicide. I walked past the room where she hanged herself but didn't know... I still think i might have done smth if only
swozey
I woke up to my mother being brought out on a stretcher. Didn't leave my room. I knew and I was numb to it.
ICanHasUzername
You couldn't have done anything. She would have chosen another time, another place. It's not your fault. Please don't blame yourself.
Viewtheentirealbum11imagestotal1remaining
Rationally I have accepted that. Emotionally not. It wasn't her first attempt as she was ill from manic depression and schizophrenia. Thank
Viewtheentirealbum11imagestotal1remaining
you for your kind words. Have a very nice weekend.
ICanHasUzername
You're welcome. I can only imagine how that must of felt & how you must feel now. If you ever need to talk, this Imgur friend is all ears.
Viewtheentirealbum11imagestotal1remaining
I opened the door and looked inside. Instead I went to bed waking up to my father screaming.
h20fuego
Don't blame yourself, ever.
HamGrenade
my brother died from alcohol. when i saw my dad screaming & crying in a fetal position on the kitchen floor is something I will never foget
OldMcRonald
Sorry for your loss
awwes
My sister killed herself. When the police came to the door to tell her, my 5 y/o niece was sitting in the living room watching Dora.
awwes
She heard everything, they found her curled up in a ball under my moms bed
Holydarkness
As someone with younger Sisters: that hurts :(
Likescatstoomuch
I'm so sorry.
foxearredasshole
Got the phone call about my Uncle at work. I then got to drive to my Mom's work and tell her since no one could get ahold of her.
bohnsta
That scream.
MatrimBloodyCauthon
For a while I thought I was going on a trip to see my dad when I was 8. I had to find out that we weren't going to see him. Depression sucks
MatrimBloodyCauthon
I know people say suicide rates of kids of people who commit suicide are higher, but I'd never put someone through that.
Momof2needsabreak
I didn't eat for a week after my cousin killed himself. He was more like a brother than a cousin. Still hurts after almost 10 years.
Cahcealmmai
I have the exact same memory. So hard to deal with.
batarnak
That gave me chills.
TheSadCafe
I'm so sorry. I'm here if you ever want to talk about him.
tomorrowwillbebetter
Fully body shivers. My condolences.
troyandabedstucktogether
I'm right there with you. I had never seen my dad sob before that day we got the call from my brother's best friend. It's absolute agony.
HarpMaiden
Iv Lost two brothers (not suicide) and I know that sound that my mother made too - but I suffer sever mental health issues and there is 1/2
HarpMaiden
Nothing more in life that I would like to do than end it all. There is two sides two every story. And mental health is a killer.
drorgin
If you ever need to talk please message me. I'm so proud of you for going on.
HarpMaiden
Thank you <3
koopaya
This. I had a wife and child when I attempted suicide. I didn't want to die, at all... but you don't think rationally. Just pain.
HarpMaiden
I can understand that - and many people would call it a selfish move... but they really have no idea of the mental suffering.
CanuckyFriedChicken
As someone with bipolar disorder who was lucky they were attempts, message me any time, day or night. Im on imgur a lot. Id even give u my #
HarpMaiden
Thank you <3
hencethequeef
I feel like I'm hearing myself talk...except I only had one brother to lose. It was so much more painful knowing he'd wanted to live.
HarpMaiden
Yep - I wish I could of traded places and he could of continued a happy life.
agrrrrimapirate
stay strong harpmaiden. you are not alone
HarpMaiden
Thank you <3
breadstickez
If you ever need a friend, I will always be available. Suicide is never the answer. You can get through this, you're stronger than you know.
HarpMaiden
Thank you <3
Chernobyl56
Not a suicide per se, but my worst moment as a cop was finding a 20 year old college student who ODed on heroin and having to inform 1/?
makkael
A.K. RIP.
Chernobyl56
the mother. I have never in my entire life heard despair at that level. That boy's family was decimated. 2/2
MortyMorbid
I am a coroner transport and do not envy that part of your job in the slightest. Im not sure I could handle informing the parents.
Chernobyl56
In my area the victims advocate does usually, but we got the call from the guys roommate, and the mother met us there...
IThinkWeAllKnowWhoLetTheDogsOut
As a (hopefully) future office, I am terrified of having to do that. Stay strong, friend.
xtazyiam
Not to take away anything from the seriousness of this thread... But good luck in your future escapades as an office...
Yoshiru
decimate is a word meaning to destroy 1 tenth. Was it a family of ten? if so. Statement was quite accurate, it seems. oh and -->
Yoshiru
modern usage as "destroy large portion of" yeah yeah, wrong usage changes language... but "deci" is a very clear prefix.
gtaomg
Holy crap decimated doesn't mean what y'all think it means. Not a tenth of something.
arcusprotus
doesn't necessarily have to be a tenth of something, just a large portion of - which works in this case, if taken figuratively.
OhnoDinosaur
googled "define: decimated" got this as the first answer: :kill, destroy, or remove a large percentage or part of." I think that sums it up.
arcusprotus
https://www.google.com/search?q=decimated&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
arcusprotus
doesn't necessarily have to be a tenth of something, just a large portion of - which works in this case, if taken figuratively.
TheJizzle
Vocab game on point
Chernobyl56
"Go colossal or go domicile" -Baby Kangaroo Tribbiani
AbusiveWankerVEVO
1/10 of them were killed?
chickenboo
Because; dictionary arsehole.
Chernobyl56
I'm not sure I understand what you are asking.
RoboLuddite
Funnily enough you'll find that a word's meaning can shift slightly in 2000+ years...
AbusiveWankerVEVO
I was going to link you a dictionary page showing you that it still meant every 1/10 but turns out you were right. Ain't that some shit.
koopaya
What the hell is wrong with you?
AbusiveWankerVEVO
My empathy was decimated as a child :'(
wowchick
It bothers me when people call suicide selfish. I've been there, I've attempted. You're in so much pain you will do ANYTHING to (1/2)
aguyuno
themselves and yeah. It's a lot harder to see the truth of suicide (that it isn't unselfish) when it's hurt those close to you 2.
Drhoges
It's the most selfish thing you can do unless there is truly no one that cares about you.
typingtreemonkey
It's also selfish to demand someone pro-longs their painful life so you won't feel pain.
Drhoges
Well I'm sure someone that includes that argument in their suicide note is off the hook.
ohshitausername
I don't think it's selfish as much as it is misguided. It's the disease thinking for you. At least that was my experience.
Crononaut
You do not need to suffer from a disease (Eg. depression) to take your own life. There is a limit to how much shit a person can take too
Chocolatesporks
I agree, the disease stops the person from being able to think, it makes choices for you. The illness is selfish, not the sufferer.
ditto12g
I love your definition here. I think people oversimplify a complex and multifaceted problem when they label 1/
ditto12g
either party selfish in the suicide-depression situation. 2/
PurdyPics
It IS selfish because all you can think of is YOURSELF. Having said that, I'm not insensitive to your pain. 1/2
PurdyPics
I've felt that pain. The only thing that got me through it is to know it would hurt the ones I love as badly as I was hurting then.
UnpopularOpinionPuffinPersonified
I'm pretty sure considering your own pain without respect to that of others is the very definition of selfishness.
iwantashortnameforonceohshit
"without respect"- that's the key there. There is plenty of respect, it's the only thing that makes people hold on so long. Its a disease,
iwantashortnameforonceohshit
one that not everyone lives from. No different than others. You wouldn't chastise and call someone who died of cancer selfish, right?
girlonimgur
I have been there too, tried too, and I can't believe I might have missed out on this amazing life that I have now. It can get better.
wowchick
I agree wholeheartedly with you on this. I was very young when I did that, and it took a long time for me to get where I am now emotionally
girlonimgur
Well I for one am glad that I got to talk to you and share a little of our story.
wowchick
I agree
Astrophrial
We had a brief period where people were like "make an effort to understand depression" and now we're back to "suicide is selfish!" (1)
Astrophrial
In the end the person thinking of doing it likely thinks the world would be better off without them. Truly thinks that and believes it. (2)
Astrophrial
What other people say doesn't matter, they're not telling the truth. That is the reality for people suffering. (3)
AricNeo
What other people say does matter. It may not seem like it with how much they can be convinced of themselves, but feeling wanted DOES matter
Astrophrial
Mental illness sufferers do not think logically. (4.fin)
Bertosaurus
More people need to know this...
kittykatjkr
I have sat with a gun to my head, and the only thing that saved me was the horrifying thought of my parents finding my dead body..
typingtreemonkey
Ugh it's difficult. What's worst, missing person report (so they won't find it) or finding out what you did. I've weighed so many options.
McKavian
One of the things that stop me is worrying that no one will take care of my cats.
MyNipplesLookLikeMilkDuds
It is selfish. You can't really deny that. The problem here is that everyone surrounds the word "selfish" with a negative connotation, (1)
iwantashortnameforonceohshit
Do people call someone who died of cancer selfish? No. Because they died of a disease. A terrible, terrible disease. Depression takes 1/2
MyNipplesLookLikeMilkDuds
but it CAN be dealt with and things can and will get better if you let them. But because of the actions you take with suicide, your (13)
MyNipplesLookLikeMilkDuds
make it any less of a selfish action. Sorry for the novel, I had a lot on my mind that couldn't be said in 140 characters or less haha. (15)
MyNipplesLookLikeMilkDuds
both started taking anti-depressants. He came to me multiple times saying that he was scared of what he might do to himself if the pain (10)
MyNipplesLookLikeMilkDuds
prevent it from happening. Same thing with his mom and sister. He and his sister started dealing with depression because of it, (9)
MyNipplesLookLikeMilkDuds
it would have destroyed all that was left of his family, as well as me. So yes, the pain you go through with depression isn't easy, (12)
MyNipplesLookLikeMilkDuds
multiple people who have killed themselves and everyone of their losses was greatly mourned and destroyed a lot of people. My best (7)
MyNipplesLookLikeMilkDuds
anymore. Which is selfish. Now is it bad and does it make you a horrible person? No. That's where the distinction needs to be made. (4)
MyNipplesLookLikeMilkDuds
didn't go away. He was not in his right mind after his dad died. And he contemplated suicide. Had he killed himself because of it, (11)
MyNipplesLookLikeMilkDuds
something to think about though: your action of committing suicide will, 99% of the time, drastically affect other people. I've known (6)
MyNipplesLookLikeMilkDuds
You can be selfish and not be a dick. People are selfish literally all the time and a lot of those people are awesome people. Now here's (5)
MyNipplesLookLikeMilkDuds
friend's dad killed himself in 2010 and it wrecked him. He kept blaming himself, thinking there was something he could have done to (8)
MyNipplesLookLikeMilkDuds
is, by definition, selfish. Your acting out of the best interest of yourself; you want the pain to end so you don't have to deal with it (3)
MyNipplesLookLikeMilkDuds
because it often times is negative. But taking *your* life because of things that only *you* are dealing with and are only hurting *you* (2)
MyNipplesLookLikeMilkDuds
pain just spread to countless others ten fold. So yes, it is selfish. Is it understandable? Yeah, it sadly is. But that doesn't (14)
iwantashortnameforonceohshit
2) away the most deeply rooted instinct in human nature- the will to survive. It is a sick, deadly disease and some just cant win the fight.
MyNipplesLookLikeMilkDuds
You're missing my point. I'm making a distinction between selfishness and being self-centered. Suicide is selfish, not self-centered. (1)
MyNipplesLookLikeMilkDuds
the whole cancer thing: people with cancer seek treatment. It doesn't always work, same with therapy. But you should at least try to (3)
MyNipplesLookLikeMilkDuds
fight. People who get cancer treatment can survive. Same with those who are depressed and seek treatment. Depression can be fought.
MyNipplesLookLikeMilkDuds
Selfishness just means acting out of one's best interest. Self-centered means you care about nothing but yourself. But in response to (2)
aguyuno
While I agree with you entirely, the ONE THING I'll point out is that it sounds like whoever wrote this had someone in their life kill 1
wowchick
I've lost friends to suicide, including one VERY close friend. I knew exactly where they were coming from when talking about survivor's pain
aguyuno
I believe it, and I dont question you; I'm just saying, especially if OP's case was recent, you can understand why he's so bitter, you know?
BenderBenderBender
I agree that selfish isn't the right word and distracts from the real message. Our lives are intertwined and maybe by remembering that (1/2)
BenderBenderBender
(2/2) it could be enough to get someone through a dark times. I know it has for me.
azurepenguin
I guess we could agree at least that is if selfish to romanticize it?
eronth
Selfish how? Like... what do I selfishly gain by romanticizing suicide?
azurepenguin
ro·man·ti·cize verb deal with or describe in an idealized or unrealistic fashion; make seem better or more appealing than it really is
eronth
neat. what am I gaining from this? Where is "selfish" relevant.
AricNeo
That's just the thing, when you're feeling like that, it really does seem that appealing. 1/2
AricNeo
It's bad if someone not feeling it says this (romanticizing/encouraging) but if this is someone expressing their feeling they need an outlet
wowchick
make it stop. That's not selfish, that's being at the end of what you can endure. (2/2)
Joonbugs92
It's tunnel vision. You can only see your hurt, your sorrow, your helplessness... it blinds you of what is around that tunnel vision (1)
Joonbugs92
which is exactly who you're going to hurt. It's not intentionally selfish. Depression, that is what is truly selfish, not the person per se.
opad
People saying its selfish seem to want someone to live an unhappy life for decades so they don't deal with loss. That's also selfish.
YamatoIouko
People confuse selfish and self-centered a lot, I think. Suicide is VERY self-centered, usually because mental illness blinds beyond the =>
YamatoIouko
<=self at those times. It's not that they don't want to see past themselves; at that moment, they can't.
Adnarime
I disagree, on the grounds of "selfish" being treated like an evil word. Thinking of yourself ... is self-ish. Suicide is selfish period dot
frankenteddy
Ive been there, still think its a bit selfish. Reason i failed?I imagined my fathers face when he found out. Tore my heart out.Called help.
divabutterfly
I think it can be both - being the end of what you can endure, as well as selfish. Doesn't have to be one or the other.
ShakeDog
My thoughts exactly. Why should I have to endure every minute of my misery just so they won't have to grieve for a while?
itsybitsyspider
"grieve for a while" Fuck that. Grieving and the loss HAUNTS you for the rest of your life. It enters your mind when your mind when you --
itsybitsyspider
"grieve for a while" Fuck that. Grieving and the loss HAUNTS you for the rest of your life. It enters your mind when your mind when you --
itsybitsyspider
-- wake up. It weighs on your shoulder all day and then can haunt your dreams at night. Even if the emotions and pain goes away, the fact --
itsybitsyspider
-- that your loved one is gone and you may(or will if you believe in no life after death) never see them again is enough to tear you apart -
MyNipplesLookLikeMilkDuds
Dealing with the suicide of a loved one goes far beyond grieving. It's not like cancer or something where you see it coming and can prepare.
MyNipplesLookLikeMilkDuds
You're left in the wake of that person's decision, constantly asking yourself what you could have done to prevent it, blaming yourself.
pixelsnader
So, for whom did you attempt? For yourself or for others?
hencethequeef
My mental illness has made it so I can't feel any attachment to my own existence. The only thing that DOES keep me alive is knowing I would>
hencethequeef
>hurt others by ending it. Literally every minute of my existence is dedicated to protecting others from grief. When I have come close, it>
hencethequeef
>was a moment of out-of-my-mind weakness where I literally couldn't think about anything but making the pain stop NOW.
Iceteck
I've also been there, although never as far as attempting, and it bothers me when people say suicide isn't selfish! The distinction for me
Iceteck
is that the act is selfish, but I have no blame for the people who do it because they thought it was the only option. It's important to me
Iceteck
that people don't go around saying suicide isn't selfish, or even worse that it's selfless because if suicide isn't selfish it sort of
Iceteck
can make it seem like a more valid option to make the pain go away, if that makes sense? 'suicide is selfish' is one of the reasons to keep
awardwinningbananaforscale
It isn't purposely selfish, it's closed minded - you're hurting so much, you can't see how much you'll hurt others. I've been there.
Meeploo
Even when you do think of others, you just feel like you're not good enough for them, or they would be better off without you. It's twisted.
fearandloathebananas
But on the other hand, if people know about your illness, they'll hurt from that, too. You're damned if you do, you're damned if you don't.
sandshrew
Knowing you're sick is to knowing your dead as getting a papercut is to losing an arm.
babybirdhome
That's true, I don't disagree with you, but to the suicidal, it's the opposite. Living is like losing an arm, suicide is like a papercut. :\
foxiesinsoxies
This exactly. I wish everyone looked it at this way.
spasian
For me, it wasn't about being unhappy or miserable. At some point those don't seem significant anymore. It was just about being done.
SinisterMister
The hopelessness....the fucking hopelessness. When you wake up one day and you don't feel like trying because your "know" it won't improve
ZorroMuerte
I've been there, I'm still there. It really sucks I sometimes can't feel a damn thing but I go on only for my little bro and mom...
ArcaneM37
I agree whole-heartedly with you. I also agree whole-heartedly with the bottom text here and say fuck the first image. Depression is a 1/2
ArcaneM37
2/2 disease that can result in death, and that is a terrible thing for everyone involved, but the first image is saying that it wouldn't 1/?
ArcaneM37
matter if they died. That's the selfish part - believing that the loss of you won't effect anyone or that your pain is greater than theirs.
ArcaneM37
(That's all. Disregard fucky numbering - I'm tired.)
HackerJacker
It IS selfish though, it is a decision you make for yourself and no-one else. That in no way belittles the pain you felt, just a fact. 1/2
Chocolatesporks
It is selfish, but it isn't really a decision the person makes for themselves, the disease makes it for them. It literally stops the 1/2
CatrionaShadowleaf
They will never have to worry about me again. Why wouldn't I release them from that constant nagging fear? Why shouldn't I free them?
chandlerstreetfilms
Depression doesn't work like that. Those who are suicidal feel that killing themselves will be the best decision for EVERYONE, not just them
HackerJacker
I never said they don't. The decision is till selfish even of the sufferer feels it isnt.
chandlerstreetfilms
It may objectively seem selfish, but the act isn't performed selfishly. It's useless to see it that way.
MyHorseAteMyPaycheck
But it's not selfish of family/friends to demand the person keep on struggling/hurting just so that THEY don't have to struggle/hurt?
HackerJacker
I never said that, those thigns are selfish too, every decision made purely for ones self is selfish
ADisturbedOne
It can be in some ways, but mainly, no it is not selfish, because its selfish to stay alive with "illness" calls depression. No way out.
ADisturbedOne
Just doing it for other people, but if you're seriously depressed and no type of helps have done anything for you, then let them.
HackerJacker
Nobody should blame you for reaching the end of your limit of course, but it is definitely an act of self to release the pain.
Repostradamus
I think many people don't realize that the pain never actually goes away. It just gets inherited by their loved ones.
TiniestHippo
Isn't it an act of selfishness to try to keep someone in pain and anguish so that you don't feel sad/guilty about their death?
Lordcerii
hencethequeef
Holy shit. This. So much this.
McKavian
I would give you a billions +1's for this if I could.
MyNipplesLookLikeMilkDuds
That's taking on the presupposition that things will never get better. Most who deal with depressive episodes get out of it eventually.
ImEdd
Well, this post is a douchebag post. Half the times, the people who commit suicide can't relate to a single one of those.
ISleptWithSomeoneFromImgurAndAllIGotWasThisStupidUsername
i get that. a lot of times suicide can stem from isolation/abuse. it's hard to find a life worth living with those things. BUT i think it's
ISleptWithSomeoneFromImgurAndAllIGotWasThisStupidUsername
more of a response to tumblr's glorification of mental illness and suicide.
TheFoamFish
I'm surprised they just assume they have a SO.
Yeahmynameisshe
I'm surprised they assume that they have friends.
TheFlyingSheep
The post is more of a "fuck you tumblr stop romanticizing" a very horrible thing
thisisdifficult
Is this a fact or an assumption? In my experience, most of time they do feel all of those things, but their own pain is too intense
ImEdd
Assuming based on my society. I guess this isn't common in other societies.
thisisdifficult
vaaat is your society mr. dude
ImEdd
I could go on but I don't want to flood your replies with sad story. So, to make up for that: cats and boobs. That's what keeps me alive :P
ImEdd
Somewhere in a ghetto in southeast asia. people who suicide are the ones who don't have anybody to love them.
thisisdifficult
fair enough. Damn. I can't even imagine what that would feel like
ImEdd
It's just sad how people pity suicide because sometimes I think if people don't idolize people who suicide there would be less suicides.
thisisdifficult
Suicide is a coping mechanism for people with mental health disorders. Medically, we don't know how to treat them properly. Then, they die.
ImEdd
Or sometimes people suicide because of exams or a breakup. These type suicides don't get pity here at all.
thisisdifficult
Those usually stem from pressure, from family, society, friends. Built up over years. Or, anxiety, a pretty serious mental health issue