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May 2, 2019 5:28 PM
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URNOTFUNNY1226
Who is she? I'm not familiar with her.
ThatGuyFromThePlaceWithTheThing
Eh. I still like Bernie, he’s consistent and I like his ideas.
ThatGuyFromThePlaceWithTheThing
Also if we can spend trillions to blow up a dude in a cave we can afford his policies.
DYLANLEE79
Choking out a stranger during sex just feels "weird".
DirkNurple
This guy gets it.
CaspianQuix
They're counting on the meme ballot to carry them home.
IndyAndyJones
Have you seen that Biden memes? That's why Biden.
CrikeyItsAKiwi
Trevor Noah seems to really hate Joe Biden for some reason
mcbotulism
Why is the mom from Good Times talking to us about penis?
Rosie2003
Yeah she is.
iamdanman
Biden is way to corporatist
SecretlyASiberianHusky
The party that hates old white men is now putting an old white man as their front runner.
Grundykun
Almost like their entire existence is one big virtue signal or something.
mothmanual2016
Almost indeed.
Callistan
Maybe because the Democratic Party doesn't hate old white men, and it's just some strawman certain conservatives like to bring up?
RonnieHubbard
Does that dude give a good massage? I heard Biden gives a good massage...
blurgh
if you can type here youre too old for his massage
hiphopbookshop
Jken324
Identity politics is so toxic and illogical that the Dems pursue it at their own peril.
EranL
Notice how he's not saying better. Fresh as in new. Diverse as in, well not diverse opinions, rather ethnicity. As IF that makes them better
zairewyoming
That's the point of the bit Trevor is basically saying in the end none of that truly matters people will choose who they feel is best
bigusdigus
Fascinating observation. "There are bodies with dark skin and/or vaginas, choose them"
pdxenburg
Different perspective when we're tired of the old one
xo101
He didn’t make any reference to diverse ethnicities.
FarkasMacTavish
That's implied when people just say "diverse" with no other qualifiers.
xo101
This year we have candidates with diverse political opinions. I guess I’m in the minority to think of that first.
FarkasMacTavish
That is a better use, yes, but the way that it's used, primarily by the left, is to say "non-white".
dontaskmeimjustagirl
You gotta be willing to get that strange.
Thefilmisneverasgoodasthebook
AnythingMuchShorter
Bernie Sanders: Get that strange America!
lurch2014
Pass
MrChurch
He's out of your league anyways
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lurch2014
ggggooooootttttt
StephenDaniels
Being able to beat Trump is the only real qualification this time IMO. FWIW historically progressive D's never win, moderate D's often do.
whatwhatwhonow
Can't fucking wait to vote for another corporate-loving neoliberal because the Democrats won't but up someone that isn't center-right.
Ketchupkilla
Hahahahaha
Grundykun
Can't wait to watch you vote for him. Go be socialist in Venezuela.
FarkasMacTavish
"Diverse" is not the opposite of "white".
SpaceballsTheComment
Maybe it's the opposite of "old, caucasian, heterosexual, christian male"?
FarkasMacTavish
Yeah, but that's not what the real definition is.
AnAspiringArtist
This^
AnAspiringArtist
Not even opposite, just more options than just what SpaceballsTheComment said.
FarkasMacTavish
Office should be determined by individual merit and ideas, not on immutable, aesthetic characteristics.
AnAspiringArtist
Right, but the flaw is in when you only are taking people of merit from only one group. some people never even get a chance to prove 1/2
magnuPlanetLifter
But that doesn't automatically disqualify him from leading as long as he is willing to listen to people who don't fit in those categories.
DaddyLike
The democrats have a much better chance of winning by not nominating a “progressive” or socialist. A lot of people hate the far-left more.
firehawkcultist
See 1st, no one running is a socialist. 2nd when polled on policies without right/left labels attached Americans lean moderately left.
Ninjainslippers
This is BS. The people who hate the far left won't be swayed by a centrist. The Dems need an exciting candidate to get people out to vote.
PornstonMusclethorpe
This. Someone safe and center did not win in 2016. I think big elections will now be won by those who can get a lot of voters to the polls.
Ninjainslippers
Yup. Obama was a youngish black guy with relatively little experience. But he was smart, eloquent, and energetic and got people to show up.
Ninjainslippers
By the same token, Trump had literally no qualifications but got people riled up and he won the electoral vote. It's about energizing people
NlessWonder
Joe Biden voted for the war in Iraq he voted for NAFTA, permanent trade relations with China. He also supports the GOP supporting the coup
NlessWonder
In Venezuela. That’s a hard pass for me. I’ll vote for someone who isn’t corporatist and a warmonger.
StealTow
When did diverse get it's definition changed to "not white"
AnAspiringArtist
That's not what is meant here. It means not another "Straight White 'Christian' Male" like Biden and most of the Republican candidates.
StealTow
when did Diversity's definition get changed to that?
AnAspiringArtist
i would love to know what your definition is? cause "having more than one race sex religion present" seems to be the common understanding
StealTow
yeah like I first asked, when did that become the definition of diversity. You can have a group of all white christian men in a room 1/2
StealTow
Identity politics are not your friend. For instance you don't know what diversity means because of it.
StealTow
while it still being diverse. Holy fuck you're a moron that you let them make you think that way.
redditmcredditface
whatever, im still voting for bernie
IDownvoteAllPoliticalPosts
I really like bidens new slogan, "Biden: Gaurenteeing Another 4 Years of Trump"
Ninjainslippers
"Except he can push the conservative agenda more effectively because he's more competent and less divisive than Trump"
IDownvoteAllPoliticalPosts
Ehhhh iunno about that. Don't exactly enjoy watching children get groped by him
Ninjainslippers
I think Trump is at best on even terms with Biden in terms of groping and sexual assault. And that's just based on what's on record.
IDownvoteAllPoliticalPosts
No idea, both would need extensive research and investigating
Ninjainslippers
But only now that it's a (centrist) Democrat in question. Trump and Kavanaugh get carte blanche.
Agt00Leprechaun
Nothing against Biden, I would absolutely vote him over Drumpf, but I’m feeling the Bern
Agt00Leprechaun
And yes I am on the younger side of the voting spectrum but this guy has the best intentions of anyone else out there
Agt00Leprechaun
I am hopeful that I can live into my 80’s and that my kids and grandkids will not have inherited a world that can not sustain human life...
Agt00Leprechaun
I, unfortunately, think Biden is more of the same and right now that is not what we need. Shit has got to change
Agt00Leprechaun
And I cannot believe that I’m saying this, but I think our best bet is to go with the old white guy
3SpareParts
Joe “voted for the iraq war” Biden? Joe “voted for the patriot act” Biden? THAT Joe Biden? Yeah that’s a hard pass.
pdxenburg
It's almost like he didn't want to be seen as the enemy of the country
DirkNurple
It’s almost like nobody makes good decisions all the time.
comacomacomacomachameleon
Maybe because Biden is a seasoned politician and statesman with the experience, know-how, and relationships to get shit done?
wanderingsibyl
Just for the health of the nation, we need to stop electing 70 year olds.
ekzeko
Consider what shit he wants done though. Look at his voting record. It's not like he's going to innovate or uproot the corporate hold.
HaulinOats
I think he would’ve won in 2016 in a landslide. In 2020, I’m not so sure
KeyLimeAnxiety
He doesn’t have a great track record on women’s and civil rights issues at the beginning of his career, that matters to me
CrusherOfCities
By 'beginning' are we talking like 16ish yrs ago, before being picked for VP, or we talking like 45ish years ago when he was first elected?
KeyLimeAnxiety
The main thing that comes to mind is the Anita Hill hearings. He was the committee chair, that was early 90s
CrusherOfCities
Yeah, looking that up- that was some pretty shitty stuff. Thanks for the info.
Freeflare
He's a habitual liar that once plagiarized someone's entire fucking life. I will never understand why anyone liked him.
TongueTiedLabourerfromtheLandoftheLittlePeople
A liar, an abuser of woman, an incompetent, a tool for the elites, a corrupter of the constitution, a supporter of Obamacare, a Democrat/
TongueTiedLabourerfromtheLandoftheLittlePeople
/but enough about Deficit Donnie. What about this Biden guy?
nopost
Not to mention he has the best chances of beating Trump, partly because he can get support from the white lower-middle class blue collars
atomiccheesegod
Aka moderates. Most People aren’t as far left/right as the media would have you believe
JamesBluntThatSmartassCunt
He also has monetary ties to ISP fuckheads. Yay.
bigusdigus
Statesman is a fascinating way to say career politician who is rooted in corruption.
IAmDrBanner
He is rooted in corruption? First time I am hearing of it. You'd think it would be all over the place if it was true.
lifeisaburrito
did you not see who was at his fundraising dinner? all the good boys from Comcast, Verizon, PAC's....
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IAmDrBanner
If it is common knowledge, yes. He is a presidential candidate. Your whole life gets investigated.
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bigusdigus
The guy is filthy rich. Life long politicians don't become millionaires for public service.
FutureHylian
I wanna like Biden but he is bought af
bigusdigus
Dude they all are. Democrats can't run a straight presidental election. We learned that last year with Sanders.
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bigusdigus
Good question. She's running as a Democrat and seems to be towing the party line lately, https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/3609
bigusdigus
I like a lot of her principals. However, seeing her pull the white outfit stunt with the other rich hags in congress makes me question her.
Cheomesh
Sanders wasn't in it. Nor is he a Democrat.
ScrewMyVacationPlansIGuess
He ran democratic because there wasn’t any chance of him winning if he continued to run independent
kodiak931155
FarmerFrance
I'm not going to vote for someone because they're a minority. Anyone who wants that is missing the point of politics.
newsguycraigevans
Exactly
pleaseconsiderthatImightbejoking
Those people are going to be the death of the party. Won't vote for anyone whose not the right race, won't vote for anyone whose not 1/2
pleaseconsiderthatImightbejoking
the right gender. Meanwhile the republicans have gotten so big tent they've elected an orange potato.
3SpareParts
Who the fuck downvotes this
SOcean255
People who only read the first sentence and stopped.
dc808
Not that your vote counts anyway.
Rhythmaster
True, but voting for someone because they're NOT a minority would be just as bad
FarmerFrance
Right, and I'm totally NOT in that camp
lifeisaburrito
but you'd vote for "familiar dick"?
FarmerFrance
Fuck yeah, an evil I know vs an unknown evil? That's what got us Trump
TemetNosce000
Plus we've already checked that box as far as diversity goes.
alsoAzrael
That argument is almost as strange as voting for someone because they're a minority..
Cthulhuonabike
Seriously. It drove me nuts the last election cycle people saying they were voting for Hilary because "it's time for a woman president"
Ninjainslippers
I think most people were for Hillary because she was infinitely more qualified than Trump.
FarmerFrance
That type of person is the only thing that scares me more than Trump supporters
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WeirdAlsNumber206Fan
Trump is our first orange president. Look at how that diversity turned out?
dane0
Research the Obama campaign did in the ‘08 primary was telling. “I want a woman to be President, but not this woman.” Should’ve remembered.
IWantToSpaceBattleYou
While it IS time.. it should be a good one, not whatever's lying around.
AnythingMuchShorter
I was wondering if it would even be a big step for women if the first woman president was the wife of a former president.
AnythingMuchShorter
Imagine if someone was the first female CEO of some big company, and she was the wife of a former CEO, no one would take that seriously.
pleaseconsiderthatImightbejoking
They took Obama seriously, despite being half white and raised exclusively by his white family.
Fushelama
I mean, he was still black, and the first black president. Strictly speaking, upbringing didn’t matter for that
AnythingMuchShorter
Well almost any female candidate is going to have a primarily male father.
azazyel
People need to understand that it's not about 'turns' it's about winning the fight
drunkwhenididthis
It's not a fight
misterwit
I thought it was about electing someone who will improve and protect the country and it's values, not beating the other guy.
Callintryluck
moonshadowkati
It should be, but America's current political system is a big tug-of-war between two parties with often opposing ideas on what that means.
misterwit
The two parties both play important roles. The problem is that the public has forgotten what those roles are and too many people vote as 1/2
misterwit
though one party is wholly right or one is wholly wrong, and voters just choose a side rather than consider candidates from both sides. 2/2
thesupersonic
A centrist that appeals to most people over someone farther in the political spectrum
seedye
People should pick policies they like, not b/c the labels attached to them. Lots of “left” policies are popular w/ 75%+ of the population.
seedye
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/08/the-radical-lefts-agenda-is-more-popular-than-the-gops.html
Ninjainslippers
This is bullshit. Republicans have pushed the narrative that we all have to move to the center while they move further right.
CrusherOfCities
And if an extremely 'left' candidate was winning elections, it would make less sense to recommend a centrist. But since the democrats 1/2
CrusherOfCities
2/2 lost the presidency, a centrist stands a better chance of winning undecided voters.
Ninjainslippers
A centrist dem lost the last election to a far right nut. It's not about the undecided voters, it's about getting people excited to vote.
Ninjainslippers
If you look at the midterms, several far left candidates either won or outperformed. I think that's a sign of shifting times.
Irishda
That's what Clinton was, but conservatives don't cross to moderates, as Trump has proven
Cheomesh
Clinton was right-wing.
Irishda
She was pro life, anti- regulation, anti- environmentalism, pro- tax cuts for the wealthy?
FarkasMacTavish
Which Clinton?
FitzFarseer
Clinton was centrist by today’s standards. That’s because liberal standards have been moving very quickly the past 20 or so years
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FitzFarseer
I’m not even sure what you’re referring to. Are you calling Clinton right??
FarkasMacTavish
Which Clinton?
FitzFarseer
Both? Either? My point remains
FarkasMacTavish
No, it doesn't. I doubt they have identical politics.
pzummo
I mean, shouldn’t we be looking for “most qualified” instead of “fresh and diverse”? No offense toward any qualified candidate.
Ninjainslippers
Hillary was First Lady, US Senator, and Secretary of State. But apparently she was boring and corrupt. I don't know what to think anymore.
LizardEnterprises
We should be going with "Whoever is most likely to win". We can worry about qualified when the country is no longer burning.
InsanoFlexYourHero
“Burning”
LizardEnterprises
Both metaphorically, and often literally. Most of those California wildfires are on mismanaged federal land.
InsanoFlexYourHero
Literally in Cali, sad but true. Mother Natures no joke. Metaphorically, meh. Figuratively, neh.
Kronzor
You seen what the otherside has been rollin' with? "Qualified" sure as fuck aint gonna cut it these days.
orbitlives
The fact that the "no offense" qualifier even needed to be added to that somewhat epitomizes the issues many take with some candidates.
Daeyelle
No offense wasn't actually needed though
orbitlives
Exactly my point
Compound515
I've seen enough Biden memes to know he is more than qualified
BayazTheBenevolent
That's unamerican. You pick the person you think is coolest.
tommyfever
Agreed, "fresh and diverse" is (sorta) how we got Drumpf...
equityforpunks
In politics? Haha... Just take a look at who is in the white house right now.
tuxedobob
Did you see who got elected last time?
thugg77
get outta here with your sound logic
jetflight
Well, given that the party core has been taken over by hardcore racists and sexists - no. Racial hierarchy matters the most for them.
CapProminent
Andrew Yangs audiobook sold me on him, then I looked at his planed policy's. Everyone else just has poorly detailed platitudes.
Callistan
I'll ask you this because I've asked a few Yang supporters on Facebook and haven't gotten an answer: Yang's talked about Alaska having a
Callistan
form of Universal Basic Income in the form of the PFD. However, Alaska is currently in a budget crisis because it's been running a deficit
Callistan
for years and the newly-elected governor ran on a balanced budget platform without reducing PFDs. Gov. decided to do this by making
Callistan
absolutely MASSIVE cuts to basic services like education, healthcare, etc. However, he could have potentially paid for all these services
dangerousmelon
Anyone in a position to run for President or whatever is going on right now is already the least qualified individual.
AnythingMuchShorter
I'm sure whoever is truly most qualified to be the President is someone we have never and will never hear of with the system we have.
yetipc
no, you always go with the guy with the best hair, like ceo's
filben7
Joe Biden is crap. No more center-right corporate dems. If I wanted a republican I would vote for one.
Zipbang
People call for the "most qualified" out of one side of there face then lambast them as "establishment" out of the other.
SnickerMyKnickers
Agreed, but I still don't like Biden as the candidate. He's way too corporate and I don't think he'll be aggressive enough w the Repubs
Cheomesh
Hey now, Fresh and Diverse got us Trump.
Quizz25S
A rich old white guy is fresh and diverse? I know what you meant but thought that was funny.
pdxenburg
He was new to Washington and has different opinions. Diverse doesn't have to mean demographic
Quizz25S
And I quote "I KNOW WHAT YOU MEANT BUT THOUGHT THAT WAS FUNNY". Getting tired of people not reading what I say.
Irishda
We tried, but everyone said Hillary was boring
ChickenFingerFingers
She had great creds.
KeyLimeAnxiety
I didn’t agree with or trust her but I could say that about most politicians
Invyggle
Hillary had so much shit thrown at her the last 30 years theres no way to get smell off - Lewis Black
FarkasMacTavish
Hillary is a slimeball. She's not qualified at all.
Irishda
Based on what? She's been a senator, secretary of state. How are those not credentials?
FarkasMacTavish
Because "corporate shill" supersedes them.
Irishda
I'm pretty sure Trump is walking proof that's not true
Invyggle
Since the 1880s there have been 2 presidents that didnt have job of Senator, VP or governor. Eisenhower and Herbert Hoover.
ScrewMyVacationPlansIGuess
We need a second Eisenhower, I vote we nominate Mattis
Genini
And Trump.
Invyggle
Hes president? Fuuuuck.
aneyeholeman
Ya, he's stayed pretty under the radar though so I'm not surprised you hadn't heard yet.
tay1188
Under appreciated comment of the day here...
ToxicMolluscinity
TBF Eisnehower was Supreme Commander of the Allied Forces in WW2 so I'd say his resume was slightly more impressive than rando senator guy
Invyggle
And Army Chief of Staff. And Hoover was the secretary of commerce (and under secretary of all other departments). My point was simply that
Invyggle
The president should be kind of an elder statesman not something you do early in your life.
Arkanrais
that's one of the biggest problems with the political left right now: elect based on skin colour & gender, rather than skill & qualification
pdxenburg
A different perspective is a qualification though. You think Republicans voted for Trump based on his experience?
Invyggle
Its just a loud few.
Arkanrais
it is, but unfortunately too many people are paying attention to the loud few. even Obama said they need to chill
Arkanrais
he said they're in a circular firing quad over the virtue signalling they're doing, shooting eachother over transgressions against diversity
Invyggle
Yes. I wouldnt worry about them though, it became pretty obvious how powerless they are when the Virginia Governor stuff happend.
Arkanrais
the far left are basically running the mirror of neo nazi ideology. instead of white men only, it's non-white non-male only
pdxenburg
Nonsense. You're an idiot, bro
jackals84
Right. That's why the left loves Bernie Sanders.
Arkanrais
there's a difference between the left and the far left. same as how there's a difference between the right and the far right
Arkanrais
and the far left are not a fan of bernie, cause he's an old white man. the far left are the nutcases of the left
MantisTobagganMD
I mean... You say that... On a post talking about a 76 year old straight white man leading polls for the left...
leperoutcastunclean
And the Left are upset that their base isn't inclusive and progressive enough, which is just going to lead them to further alienating 1/?
leperoutcastunclean
their base. 2/2
Tyaldan
Is it really now? Because it seemed to get more people out to vote than ever before. People are tired of corrupt politicians.
stupendiferous
What if the fresh and diverse one IS the most qualified? Would you recognize that or dismiss it as a "quota hire"?
Invyggle
Remember Obama?
Genini
Biden was Vice President. Not sure what makes someone more qualified.
Updoodilydoo
I'd argue being a governor is a better qualification, especially one of a larger state: actual decision making experience on a similar, 1/
Updoodilydoo
if smaller scale, as opposed to a mostly observatory role. Most of the VP's actual duties involve the senate and not the presidency 2/2
MantisTobagganMD
So...Cheney should have been president? He was already president in everything but name
Genini
Whether or not he should be elected is up to each person. He was definitely qualified though.
Raileks
As VP Biden was a good foil for a competent but boring president. He seems too scandal and national embarrassment prone to be president.
moonshadowkati
I would have agreed with you before Trump was elected.
Raileks
I refuse to lower the bar on what I expect from the president because of a con man. "At least he's not Trump" is not good enough.
Canadoug
Except most qualified probably means someone in the establishment already. Most of them are shills for their corporate donors.
potshot
Well then they aren't most qualified. It means your method of qualificaion is lacking.
superbest
This is a much better way of saying what I was trying to say.
superbest
Unless we look at experience as any role as a good public leader, not limited to government. Adding "good" disqualifies the shills
FarkasMacTavish
People have been philosophizing on what it is to be "good" for millenia. That's not exactly a concrete standard.
PaintedSlate
But we should separate capability (in governance and as a politician) from trustworthiness, among many relevant traits.
YourLordCthulhu
I'd argue somebody that isn't trustworthy isn't capable of (good) governance, for my two cents.
PaintedSlate
I agree trustworthiness is essential and even overriding, but experience will still be chalked up to capability. So it helps to see trust as