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Stanford prison experiment
In 1971, social psychologist Philip Zimbardo set out to interrogate the ways in which people conform to social roles, using a group of male college students to take part in a two-week-long experiment in which they would live as prisoners and guards in a mock prison. However, having selected his test subjects, Zimbardo assigned them their roles without their knowledge, unexpectedly arresting the "prisoners" outside their own homes. The results were disturbing. Ordinary college students turned into viciously sadistic guards or spineless (and increasingly distraught) prisoners, becoming deeply enmeshed within the roles they were playing. After just six days, the distressing reality of this "prison" forced Zimbardo to prematurely end the experiment.
The monster study
In this study, conducted in 1939, 22 orphaned children, 10 with stutters, were separated equally into two groups: one with a speech therapist who conducted "positive" therapy by praising the children’s progress and fluency of speech; the other with a speech therapist who openly chastised the children for the slightest mistake. The results showed that the children who had received negative responses were badly affected in terms of their psychological health. Yet more bad news was to come as it was later revealed that some of the children who had previously been unaffected developed speech problems following the experiment. In 2007, six of the orphan children were awarded $925,000 in compensation for emotional damage that the six-month-study had left them with.
MK-Ultra
The CIA performed many unethical experiments into mind control and psychology under the banner of project MK-ULTRA during the 50s and 60s. Theodore Kaczynski, otherwise known as the Unabomber, is reported to have been a test subject in the CIA's disturbing experiments, which may have contributed to his mental instability. In another case, the administration of LSD to US Army biological weapons expert Frank Olson is thought to have sparked a crisis of conscience, inspiring him to tell the world about his research. Instead, Olson is said to have committed suicide, jumping from a thirteenth-story hotel room window, although there is strong evidence that he was murdered. This doesn't even touch on the long-term psychological damage other test subjects are likely to have suffered.
Elephant on LSD
In 1962, Warren Thomas, the director of Lincoln Park Zoo in Oklahoma City, injected an elephant named Tusko with 3,000 times the typical human dose of LSD. It was an attempt to make his mark on the scientific community by determining whether the drug could induce "musth" — the aggressiveness and high hormone levels that male elephants experience periodically. The only contribution Thomas made was to create a public relations disaster as Tusko died almost immediately after collapsing and going into convulsions.
Milgram experiment
In 1963, in the wake of the atrocities of the Holocaust, Stanley Milgram set out to test the hypothesis that there was something special about the German people that had allowed them to participate in genocide. Under the pretense of an experiment into human learning, Milgram asked normal members of the public to ask questions to a man attached to an electric-shock generator and shock him in increasing measure when he answered incorrectly. The man was an actor, the shocks fake; but the participants didn’t know this. The terrifying part? People overwhelmingly obeyed the commands of the experimenter, even when the man screamed in apparent agony and begged for mercy. A little evil in all of us, perhaps?
Tony LaMadrid
Many medicated schizophrenics enrolled in a University of California study that required them to stop taking their medication in a program that started in 1983. The study was meant to give information that would allow doctors to better treat schizophrenia, but rather it messed up the lives of many of the test subjects, 90% of whom relapsed into episodes of mental illness. One participant, Tony LaMadrid, leaped to his death from a rooftop six years after first enrolling in the study.
Pit of despair
Psychologist Harry Harlow was obsessed with the concept of love, but rather than writing poems or love songs, he performed sick, twisted experiments on monkeys during the 1970s. One of his experiments revolved around confining the monkeys in total isolation in an apparatus he called the "well of despair” (a featureless, empty chamber depriving the animal of any stimulus or socialization) — which resulted in his subjects going insane and even starving themselves to death in two cases. Harlow ignored the criticism of his colleagues, and is quoted as saying, “How could you love monkeys?” The last laugh was on him, however, as his horrific treatment of his subjects is acknowledged as being a driving force behind the development of the animal rights movement and the end of such cruel experiments.
The third wave
Running along a similar theme similar to the Milgram experiment, The Third Wave, carried out in 1967, was an experiment that set out to explore the ways in which even democratic societies can become infiltrated by the appeal of fascism. Using a class of high school students, the experimenter created a system whereby some students were considered members of a prestigious order. The students showed increased motivation to learn, yet, more worryingly, became eager to get on board with malevolent practices, such as excluding and ostracizing non-members from the class. Even more scarily, this behavior was gleefully continued outside of the classroom. After just four days, the experiment was considered to be slipping out of control and was ceased.
Homosexual aversion therapy
In the 1960s homosexuality was frequently depicted as a mental illness, with many individuals seeking (voluntarily or otherwise) a way to "cure" themselves of their sexual attraction to members of the same sex. Experimental therapies at the time included aversion therapy — where homosexual images were paired with such things as electric shocks and injections that caused vomiting. The thought was that the patient would associate pain with homosexuality. Rather than "curing" homosexuality, these experiments profoundly psychologically damaged the patients, with at least one man dying from the “treatment” he received, after he went into a coma.
David Reimer
In 1966, when David Reimer was 8 months old, his circumcision was botched and he lost his penis to burns. Psychologist John Money suggested that baby David be given a sex change. The parents agreed, but what they didn’t know was that Money secretly wanted to use David as part of an experiment to prove his views that gender identity was not inborn, but rather determined by nature and upbringing. David was renamed Brenda, surgically altered to have a vagina, and given hormonal supplements — but tragically the experiment backfired. "Brenda" acted like a stereotypical boy throughout childhood, and the Reimer family began to fall apart. At 14, Brenda was told the truth, and decided to go back to being David. He committed suicide at the age of 38.
QuadrilateralEnix
The scientist in me says this is awesome/fascinating. The humanitarian in me is horrified.
rex314
Now read up on the The Third Wave experiment and compare it to the behaviour of internet communities. Or some other groups for that matter.
Brontoraffe
Yay psychology! But seriously this is why we have laws about this stuff now
MissPeabody
wow, i didnt even know all of this stuff!!
Nyphur
In 1970, a school segregated students based on eye colour. The results were very interesting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeK759FF84s
calmchowder
The Milgram experiment was just revealed as a sham. Basically subjects knew it was a set up, or refused to increase the shock. 1/2 (link)
calmchowder
2/2 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/crux/2013/10/02/the-shocking-truth-of-the-notorious-milgram-obedience-experiments/#.UnX3yVPyfk8
dailybuttersnack
Came here to post this!
TastyButts
Source: http://brainz.org/10-psychological-experiments-went-horribly-wrong/
crunchpaula
first of all THANK YOU second of all MORE please :)
ReverandNick
fuckin thank you for putting the actual source
WhoIsTheDodie
For more on the harlow experiments go to thisamericanlife.org
HunterSThompsonSlashWesAndersonFan
I'd also recommend a cool book called Elephants on Acid that has a few more of these. Crazy stuff.
gregnosaure
Milgram's work on obediance to authority is one of the greatest in the history of psychology but I agree it was ethically questionable.
notjeffreydahmer
As a sociology student who studied each one of these cases in depth, these descriptions are all slightly inaccurate. Lol
TheSecondRunnerUp
And then Zimbardo married his "very special" grad student who worked on the Stanford prison experiment with/under him.
GenoDX
I don't 'like' this, but upvote for an interesting post.
SkunkyLightstruck
interesting response coming from a user named "genocidal".
psykalag
"The Wave" is a great film about the 3rd wave. Highly recommended
Snow23
Very highly recommended!
shmayy
The worst are the most well known ironically, many being quite informative alongside their unethical practices.
hellomynameisboo
Like having Sigmund Freud as the one Psychologist everyone remembers... He is just one of the most controversial and is highly discredited.
shmayy
As a Psych major, it drives me bananas how most professors only talk about those men who laid the foundation over and over again.
hellomynameisboo
EXACTLY. Or how if you tell anybody you are doing Psych they say "Oh Freud Freud Freud, you can read minds and wanna sleep with your mother"
shmayy
On the daily someone will ask me if I read minds or if I am performing some kind of psychoanalysis on them. Nigga, I don't have the time.
mantono
There is actually a quite good German film called "Die Welle" which is about an experiment very similar to the one of "The Third Wave".
saharadesert
Wonderful film 'Die Welle' about The Wave. Worrying stuff. Highly recommended.
shadowlev
The Reimer Case, or John/Joan, is an interesting but tragic read. http://psy2.ucsd.edu/~mgorman/Colapinto.pdf
Komah311
Moral of the story: Don't fuck with people's heads
DefinitelyNotAnAssassinHidingInAHaybale
Like Flogging Molly says "don't fuck with my head!"
Deathwingx12
Or bodies.
Komah311
indeed
artimies7
I second this. And third it. And fourth it. Support, my friend.
Morashtak
The Stanford prison experiment told us what would happen with Abu Ghraib but did we remember our history? Nooooooo....
eggmuffin
I would recommend Phillip Zimbardo's book, "The Lucifer Effect". It chronicles the Stanford Prison Experiment in frightening detail.
JPBf
Critique to that http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/freedom-learn/201310/why-zimbardo-s-prison-experiment-isn-t-in-my-textbook
KhalPono
good lookin out
mahninja
Watch the German movie Das Experiment on the same topic it's brilliant.
iamthedinosaur
I have not seen the american version, but i can without a doubt das experiment was an amazing film, very eye opening and a little disturbing
ThatEarlStepp
I love that movie, thanks Netflix!
shakattack52
burns? dont they use a knife?
Xuvatilavv
I'm assuming it was the cauterization that was "botched." The practice of sealing open wounds with fire or hot metal.
vcelloho
The Third Wave picture is inaccurate. From 1892-1942 the Bellamy Salute (aka fascist salute) was used when saying the Pledge of Allegiance.
krallisawesome
The Bellamy Salute wasn't a fascist salute - it was just identical to a later salute adopted by the Italian and German fascists.
vcelloho
That's just some ordinary school kids
Brettholomeul
The kids DO look a bit too young to be in high school...
vcelloho
They're probably elementary schoolers
vcelloho
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellamy_salute
deftly
Good call there.
ihavecurlyhaironmyhead
No Tuskegee Syphilis Study that pretty much led to the creation of the Belmont Report? The Belmont Report has three main principles that (1)
ihavecurlyhaironmyhead
(2) guide experiments now: 1. Respect for participants, 2. Beneficence (max benefits while minimizing harm), and 3. Justice (fair (2)
hewhoateallthecaviar
3,000 times the typical human dose of LSD. WHAT THE FUCK DID HE EXPECT
caunphety
right before he shot the elephant he worried the dosage wouldnt be enough so he added more. bad sciencing lad
suspectbucket
Third Wave was not really intended to be malicious. I learned about it in HS, very enlightining.
slightlylucid
Sometimes bad things happen from good intentions.
IHaveNoIdeaWhatImDoing
The Wave, was a movie based off of the study, its awesome. Creepy and crazy as shit but awesome. I recommend it.
Ispentthelastfewyearsbuildingupanimmunitytoiocanepowder
I watched it and it was great. Die Welle (In German) I believe the "third wave study" was originally conducted in California
IHaveNoIdeaWhatImDoing
There was also a made for TV movie about it, and apparently a musical from what I've read on Wikipedia.
dinosaurshatepushups
it was intended as a school project wasn't it? I watched the "based on the true story" movie
ewokmermaid
MK-Ultra is also a great Muse song.
nickcage
Invisible to all, the mind becomes a wall, of history deleted in one stroke, How much deception can you take? How many lies will you create?
Hattorifaith
Psychology was mad science the longest of any science.
SomeDutchGuy
They put the "Psycho" in "Psychology".
greatnowmycoffeeiscold
Is*
suntzupup
i'm pretty sure medical science was mad science the longest of any science.
ThomasHFoolery
This sentence was doesnt make sense sentence
Tonicboom
was?
Zerubbabel
Was?
Alleon
Wat?
Liquidbullets
He's saying psychology was practiced by what you might consider "mad scientists" longer than any other form of science.
Glumerlink
Mostly because humans have so little respect for the mind and are thus easily manipulated
Liquidbullets
I didn't ask for a reason glumer
Glumerlink
god damn it liquid i'm tired and i like giving reasons to things because it sparks lively discussions
mrjiffyish
Some of these cases are also sociological experiments, but the two scientific disciplines seem to overlap.
Prosecutrixxx
I think they are more social psychology than sociology. I've only taken an introductory sociology course, though.
heartsongmeditation
Sociology is essentially just group psychology and dynamics. You can't really have one without the other.
Prosecutrixxx
As a psychology student: Yep. But nowadays they are much stricter about experiments. You're not even supposed to lie to your subjects.
itssomething
I mean you can use deception (it's necessary sometimes) but you've just gotta come clean asap when it's all done. Like in the asch paradigm.
puppymonkeybaby
Pshhh... They took all the fun out of psychology.
ThePresidentOfStrayaOFFICIAL
Every researcher sighs when they have to apply for ethics clearance. But we're still glad we have to.
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gingerbaconkitty
Wat.
haydentkd
PLACEBO EFFECT is when your given suger pills instead of painkillers to see if the pain is in your mind, however things have changed still.
gingerbaconkitty
I know what a placebo effect is, but I have no idea what you were trying to say.
Ollyrockz
Doing my Dissertation, trust me the paperwork you have to do now to do anything is really long and tedious because of this background.
northerncold
You're not even supposed to call them "subjects" - only the term "participants" is allowed.
Lpbekka
But that dear friend is why we have the magic of debrief forms xD
TheBinky
"Supposed to"
kickinballs
You can lie but have to tell them the truth after the experiment is done.
sjt4689
You can mislead/omit information if you can justify it.
ajizzle
that is what debriefs are for
woozle
as a psychologist: this is why the science of psychology took so long to develop. Still is really.
thegrounav
None of this stuff would get through an ethics committee nowadays. But a milder version of the Milgrim experiement was repeated recently.
TheDrySideOfThePenny
Shut up, Meg.
WhiterThanSourCream
As someone studying weapon bias, finding a way to lie without lying has been a pain in my rear end.
BurglarBilbo
False. You often have to lie to participants in order to prevent getting biased data. Within limits, of course. Gotta love review boards
thenewestnickell
You can lie subjects but you just have to debrief them afterwards.
Prosecutrixxx
I was just summarizing for the sake of keeping it under 140.
DippilyDoppler
Don't you have to have consent for the use of deception and afterwards brief the participants on the use of it?
Prosecutrixxx
Yes, but if the deception could cause emotional trauma you can't. It's all up to the IRB.
wombatleader
Oh yeah, but psychology is still pretty damn cool. Its why I'm concentrating on it in the criminal justice field.
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Maggiemypet
David's story is tragic :(
BigV
It's horrifying.
siksleem
It's Brenda
FromDenmarkWithHate
The one with the monkeys are worse by a lot...
ITolerateTurtles
The story is even crazier. Once his brother found out, it threw him into a psychotic shock and developed schizophrenia. David went on (1/2)
ITolerateTurtles
To get married but once his marriage fell apart and his brother died, he committed suicide. You have to feel for the parents. (2/2)
turokdinosaurhunter
That story is actually the reason my brothers are uncircumcised. Weird fact of the day.
scuba7jb
lucky guys!
disamericajack
They're all fucking tragic. That's the point. Did you only read the last one?
MeArePaige
A wonderful article on him -http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_examiner/2004/06/gender_gap.html
Kasumiwumi
And the worst part is that it was all for nothing and the psychologist was wrong.
IHaveNoIdeaWhatImDoing
I think Law and Order SVU had an episode based off of this story.
ZombiHugs
I've only seen L&O a handful of times, and i've seen this ep. it freaked me out bad.
appaismyspiritanimal
And they had one similar to the Milgram experiment.
DoctorCatDog
They did!
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QueenPutrescine
I had to watch that documentary in a sociology class. Great documentary indeed
F1veN1ne
What was sociology's view of it ?
QueenPutrescine
the doc. was neutral on the topic but the discussion favored more towards the idea of gender roles not being nature & upbringing determined
F1veN1ne
^Talks about sweet documentary I'd watch, doesn't give you the name of it
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F1veN1ne
B...But I would actually have to look for it ! UUUUGH
PumpernickleShakenbake
Google lead me to 'Dr. Money And The Boy With No Penis'.
LegendOfTheCrack
Say no to circumcision .
Majorgrunt
+1
philosophical1
Fuck that, uncircumcised penises are creepy looking.
Majorgrunt
I like mine well enough, and so does my girlfriend. So thanks for that you bigoted asshole :)
philosophical1
You're welcome, I'm sure she would enjoy mine more ;)
Majorgrunt
haha, I seriously doubt that ;)
LegendOfTheCrack
It's physical abuse . it's genital mutilation .
LizardJesus
Yet many still strongly believe in nurture > nature and tries to prove it with bs like that.
ukelele
i think both have an effect, the mistake is thinking it has to be one or the other.
PaperCl1p
The current teaching is that its almost 50/50, although teaching tends to be a ways behind current opinion
AprilShaw
Most people agree that gender identity is heavily determined by nature. This is backed by evidence of brain structure differences in...
AprilShaw
...transgender people, where MTF transsexuals have similar brains to cisgender women and FTMs to cisgender men.
TrexHUGS
It's shocking how many people who know about the Brenda story are unaware how tormented he was and that he committed suicide
ProcrastinateurParExcellence
I've had many school teachers claiming, completely unrelatedly, that it is scientifically proven fact. All have been feminists, of course.
F1veN1ne
Same can be said with nature > nurture and still believe in things such as the born criminal by Lombroso
RhymingEverything
The parents knew he was a boy and treated him as such.
PaperCl1p
Why the downvotes? I think that's a valid possibility that's impossible to control
RhymingEverything
Right, unless you could somehow not tell the parents. You'd think of all communities, the progressive people on imgur could understand (1)
RhymingEverything
(or at least be open to) the extent to which gender is programmed into us socially. (2)
birdiebridget
Psychology and mental health has a very, very long and dark history. This is just the tip of the iceberg.
macman507
Biology is fucked up too. But at least useful.
GingerTheBeard
did a research paper on Asylums in Victorian times, a lot of times, people with mental illness were considered less than human.
Deathwingx12
Sadly, yes. And this is only the stuff we know about.
LeftOfTheDial
The health industry in general has a dark history.
stevetehpirate
I met Zimbardo and two of the participants. Zimbardo was the only one who remembered it as a "seriously dark experience"
AceOfShovels
Yup. This reminds me of the Russian Sleep Experiment creepypasta. I'd go so far as to say that's the second darkest thing I've ever read.
theonewithadream
Why did I just read it! Going back to sleep right now.
smitmp02
^
TastyButts
I have to repeat this a lot to ppl when they wonder why some find it hard to ask or seek help or admit they have some sort of issue....
stevetehpirate
I met Zimbardo and two of the participants. Zimbardo was the only one who remembered it as a "seriously dark experience"
stevetehpirate
One of the participants didn't know that it had become such a big deal, the other said he was happy to provide insight into the human psyche
TastyButts
... It can all be explained by looking at the history.
stevetehpirate
Also, there is a big difference between therapy and clinical psychology in the modern era. But the stigmas remain.
WarChicken
There is a great German movie about the prison experiment. In German it's called "Das Experiment". I don't know if it was dubbed in English.
mnemo70
Yes, there's also an American movie from 2010. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0997152
MilgramGivesMeABuzz
There was also a BBC documentary where they attempted to re-run the experiment.
jdijdijdi
Some of these are fantastically inaccurate.
Eridianne
Highly dramatized for entertainment purposes, and people downvote -you-? Crazy.
TheOneWhoWasLeft
Which ones?
dorenavant
Sorry you got downvoted, but if you are going to make a statement like that, elaborate and explain the inaccuracies you point out.
TheOneWhoWasLeft
"JDIrrelevant: Some of these are fantastically inaccurate." My question: "Which ones?" Clearer now?
MyPornNameisVitaminD
Sad that you get downvoated to trying to stop people from believe idiotic things...sigh. I can only offset their ignorance by +1 for you.
seedoftheweed
The Milgram shock experiments were less about inherent evil in humanity, and more about our willingness to follow authority figures.
nuclearbanana
Yes! AND he did similar tests where the "shockers" were able to see and were even in same room as the "subject". Less would push the button.
HalloweenPumpky
And German people actualy showed more compassion to the subject and refused to continue experiment sooner than others. Main part forgotten..
Galacticism
There was a TED talk about that, I think called "the Lucifer effect"
ThatSociallyAwkwardGuy
Also neglected to mention how freaked out people were when they realized what they'd done in hindsight
LeakyWaterBottle
Thank you, thank you, and thank you.
sinbios
I think the takeaway was sometimes what we believe to be evil is just people following authority figures.
womanmonster666
Wasn't the experiment even titled something along the lines of "Obedience to Authority?"
MrPredator
It's also interesting because it goes into thoughts of dereliction of duty and how commanding officers (1/2)
MrPredator
must make tough choices in the field of reprimands. Such reprimands being severe as capital punishment/execution.
seedoftheweed
Yep. The conclusion was that soldiers likely externalized the guilt of committing atrocities onto their commanding officers.
koreannimal
They fail to mention there was also an incentive, and to get it they had to go the whole way.
altonbrowndeserveshisownmemefuckyouifyoudisagree
I think he misrepresented his data though.
PaperCl1p
I was also surprised this made the list
sleete
Its an interesting study about how humans are more sheep and when put in the situation, we would generally react along those lines.
foolhollow
Thank you for pointing this out.
fiftypatoots
The data always quoted on the experiment is misleading as well, as it is the highest compliance rate out of several groups.
chppr
It was also conducted on students and not random members of the public because he was not a magician.
GrundleplithMD
The results were also doctored.
flutterbysandtulips
People also forget that Milgram debriefed all of his subjects and checked on them even after the experiment.
HiImEmma
There is actually a really interesting documentary on it. Look it up :)
DirtyA
also, our inborn curiosity.
ShaunB
Debunked. I'll leave this here. https://soundcloud.com/dnto/debunking-the-milgram
MilgramGivesMeABuzz
And it didn't go 'horribly wrong' at all- Milgram's findings were shocking, but they weren't entirely unexpected.
Iamsosickoftheserepetitivecomments
They were pretty damn unexpected... That's why it's so famous. Also "shocking"... Nice.
kranberry824
Yeah, I think when they said "wrong" they meant unethical, but they way they wrote it was unclear. Nice username, too!
HiImEmma
"shocking" tee hee
MilgramGivesMeABuzz
Haha I hadn't even noticed!
EndersGame
Awesome name haha, I wish i had thought of it first
PlutoIsNotAPlanetLetItGo
They were completely unexpected. A poll of 40 psychiatrists expected 0.1% would complete the experiment, and it turned out to be 65%
MilgramGivesMeABuzz
I mean that Milgram anticipated results in line with his findings, except no one could predict how drastic the results would be.
PlutoIsNotAPlanetLetItGo
Ah, fair enough. Side note: how the hell did I not notice your username earlier? Clever, gave me a chuckle. :)
MilgramGivesMeABuzz
Why thank you! It's nice to be relevant, doesn't happen often :)
Teasers
This. Especially if the person in charge often reassures the test subject that no permanent damage will happen and if they don't continue1/2
Teasers
the test will be incomplete. These people were putting their trust in the person in charge.2/2
harpsicat
yes it was an experiment to investigate obedience, they were also being paid
seedoftheweed
So were German soldiers. It's pretty standard to receive payment for psychological studies.
icelaw
When the Discovery Channel repeated the experiment 40 years later the results differed in that people showed much more concern than before.
icelaw
SOURCE and episode on the Discovery Channel; http://dsc.discovery.com/tv-shows/curiosity/videos/the-milgram-experiment.htm
acertainjenesaisquoi
1/ It's not even about Authority figures. In the experiment, they were told that the person gving the commands to shock the person would
acertainjenesaisquoi
2/ take full blame and responsibility. It's more about the willingness to do an inherently negative task without being blamed for it.
seedoftheweed
that is called following the commands of an authority figure. Milgram went into the experiment with the intent to understand the holocaust
GeckoGadget
I'm pretty sure they haven't been able to replicate his findingsveither, so it doesn't hold true either way. Brb, looking for source on this
GeckoGadget
Not sure if a podcast is a good source but RadioLab do really thorough research - http://www.radiolab.org/story/180092-the-bad-show/
kungfufil
Nope. Similar results when done in 2009: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcvSNg0HZwk
FeversAndMirrors
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=124838091 interesting documentary I saw a while back.
DerFoxeh
The results can be replicated, but: APA says you can't run this experiment anymore, & exposure to the original alters the results
Mckrispers
http://www.apa.org/news/press/releases/2008/12/replicating-milgram.aspx
DerFoxeh
Ran out of room before I could fit in "in its entirety". Still, fascinating stuff, no?
Smarbury92
Yeah I was annoyed at how they didn't make that clear, that was pretty much the entire point of the study. (1/2)
Smarbury92
(1/2) If you listen to the recordings, you can even hear the test subjects begging not to have to shock the guy any more.
thisismyusernameforeverything
Uhh sorry that's wrong. In the experiment there were a few people who "begged" to stop around halfway through and were allowed to leave
pokemonoverlord3000
Not true the percentage of people who followed orders to shock someone to death is much higher than those who refused to
bobbi21
actual recordings though. 3
bobbi21
They went through with it but only after most of them protested against it. They had a script of only 4 things they could say to keep them 1
bobbi21
going but supposedly those weren't always followed and they claim the people were basically forced to continue on. Haven't heard the 2
workundone
1/2 1/2!? This is going to be the final push that breaks my sanity.
parabola
Read it as half :)
cindel
I like the cut of your jib.
bobbi21
would you happen to have a link to the recordings? I heard that a few times but I'd like to see first hand proof.
Smarbury92
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1zlCybdvdg
bobbi21
thanks. :)
bobbi21
There were 4 set responses for people who question to stop and if the subject kept asking after those 4 the experiment would stop. 3
bobbi21
I've heard that milgram broke protocol and went much further than those set responses but I havent' seen actual evidence which would be nice
bobbi21
and he said no I have a choice and i chose to stop. And it cuts to milgram saying for some people it was as simple as that to stop. 2
bobbi21
uh... actually nothing in that video shows the participants begging to stop. They just asked and the guy said no you have to continue 1