Aug 14, 2020 11:28 AM
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IllBeDamnedifIGotoHell
Same with cannabis prohibition
disodiumbenzoate
They thought it would save families because surely it’s impossible for a marriage to be bad and divorce to be the answer
mindofajoker8888
I think a lot of us keep drinking for other reasons
TerribleCook
And then they swapped out the alcohol in cleaners or other agents with methanol and a bunch of people died
amp99
PissedoffParamedic
Hey! We do this with marijuana!
gatewater
More like, "and what? not fund organized crime? NEVER!"
yamigenesis
Those Damn Anti-hibitionists
PlusHooks
The guy that lobbied for that shit did it because he was stabbed in the leg with a pitchfork by a drunk farmhand when he was a kid.
goodgollygosh
Are you saying that the US should start an underground postal system? As a Canadian, I would be heavily invested in watching that happen.
Songnemtn2000
Imagine how that will go with guns...
ralphie84
I guess I'm just gonna smoke more weed.
AnOceanOfStars
They should prohibit being intelligent.
kman305
Given this simple lesson in US history I surprised people thought a mask mandate would be followed.
Thelrishlnquistion
Should have told them masks can’t be worn. Then watch all those red neck dick heads come out wearing them.
azmyth1
Prohibition was awful and increased crime, but it did lower drinking a lot.
freckledkink
No it didn't
ActionJohnnie
USA in a nutshell
ViolentlyOfferingBeerToSheep
closer to "i'm gonna form several crime syndicates specifically around the drinking of alcohol"
Ineedamorecreativeusernamethanusual
As an alcoholic, I'm in both panels
OnePostCloserToAHappierLIfe
If you think that's good, you're gonna LOVE when your realize they did the same thing with cannabis, it just lasted a few decades longer.
DrSharky
But prohibition really worked to some extent. By the end of it people drank a lot less than they did before it.
hgfurgyhauh4uhghghuhgiqguhniij
Notice how that didn't happen with cigarettes but does with things that are banned.
MaadMaanMaatt
See “War On Drugs”
Exactly
FierceAndAdorable
People don’t beat wives and kids, leave family homeless because of smokes
BinaryRonin
True, they just leave them fatherless. It doesn't take 15 years to buy smokes dad!!
johnnyboy1996
Plus apparently everyone smoked, not just the irish
butsir
This is America in a nutshell
Ronanthecurious
*America* in a nutshell
dalefiretoe
Its human nature. There is a reason they say preachers children are the worst...
breothskin
Can confirm.
VitaminJay
The lead up was pretty rough. A lot of guys were taking their paycheck directly to the bar and getting absolutely wasted then going home...
WoodfolkFae
this happened in the netherlands to you could even be payed in alcohol instead of money although we just fixed general living conditions
And beating the shit out of their spouse and children. A lot of the call for prohibition was also about surviving domestic abuse...
Tyanet
Prohibition actually worked pretty well. Americans today drink a fraction of what they used to pre-prohibition.
DieselSpider
https://movendi.ngo/news/2020/05/13/alcohol-sales-ban-in-south-africa-benefits-and-big-alcohol-opposition/.
Not a very well written article but lists min pouts at least
LordNergal
You do realize that argument was presented by the religious right of their era, right? It was part of a plan to turn the U.S. into a 1/
theocracy. Incidentally, this is also why women gained the right to vote during that era; the women's suffrage movement in the U.S. was 2/
part of that group and argued women were naturally more conservative than men. Boy, did feminism prove that wrong... 3/3
SaneBrain
Actually a people's movement brought in prohibition. Drinking dropped for the average man. Not the richies like you see in pictures.
Deaths from liver disease dropped in NYC and in all larger cities. Evictions dropped by 60% AND beating your wife drunk became illegal.
drunkenness was not a legal defense anymore. Drunks being responsible for their actions while drunk became a norm.
NotACyberman
Hey I've seen this one, we are like hey, wear masks and stay home. And we were like, no
Gamemaster64
NonZeroSumGame
Are*
It happened during the last pandemic, too.
insortebellum
I'd argue the difference is that drinking alcohol as regulated only puts the individual in direct risk.
DarkBusterBaron
Not necessarily you could kill some e if you drive whilst drunk. Or yo could be very violent when drunk.
As. Regulated.
bogus1983
Sure, unless they're operating a vehicle.
As regulated
serpentinebaboo
I don’t understand why you’re downvoted. The mask wearing is obviously to protect those around you. Prohibition was just bc pearl-clutching.
Probably people not reading the 'as regulated' part and getting upset
Italipino
All drugs should be legalized
zenabel
Which country did that? And then upped addiction help resources and the results were great? I can google it but I like conversations too
Portugal decriminalized everything and upped addiction resources. Switzerland opened heroin clinics where addicts could get their fix...
...safely administered by medical professionals while receiving addiction treatments and social services like job and housing placement.
Malikhi
I'm all for the safer ones like weed, Molly, shrooms or whatever. But the hard shit is illegal for a reason. Leave it that way.
Having it illegal doesn't keep people from using and getting addicted. Addiction is a health issue and should be treated as such.
Stupidhead505
Agreed but a lot of criminal behavior has similar root causes like poverty, maybe we should think about reinventing rehabilitation generally
tequilagrande
Watch midnight gospel
Iwouldbenick
Just don't get caught and you can do wahtever drugs you want.
FakePlasticTreehugger
Portugal did this. They now have the lowest overdose rates in the world by a ridiculous margin.
SidneyHarbor
No they didn't. They decriminalized possession of small quantities of drugs. It's still illegal to manufacture or distribute drugs.
ReLeVaNtUSERNAMESareReLeVaNT
more decriminalized than legalized
Problem with only decriminalization is that there is no regulation on the manufacturing, so you still run the risk of tainted product.
thatscool22
No.
Lol. Because prohibition had worked out so well right?
Mistruths
*decriminalized.
GreedyJungle
I dunno... cocaine is expensive as hell already. with it being legally privatized nobody will be able to afford it and keep buying illegally
majortaco
Cocain is not particular difficult to produce, especially compared to other products that grow right next to it
Its so expensive wholly because it is illegal. You pay so much because the entire supply chain is black market, and peoples lives get ruined
Its actually opens up the market diffusing price by competition, plus less costs of manufacturing because less risk of being arrested.
Wrong
Legalization would remove the black market, which drives prices immensely. Weed prices went down after legalization.
Cthulhukitten
What about krokodil? The Devil's Breath? I don't know man. Also, methanphetamines are crazy addictive and could cripple you for life.
Drug addicts don't know how badly they've screwed up their bodies, they just want everything legalized so they can finish themselves off.
“They’re addictive because they’re illegal!” Or some stupid fucking reasoning. Only marijuana should be legal.
Thanks for showing everyone how clueless you are.
IllBeDamnedifIGotoHell
Same with cannabis prohibition
disodiumbenzoate
They thought it would save families because surely it’s impossible for a marriage to be bad and divorce to be the answer
mindofajoker8888
I think a lot of us keep drinking for other reasons
TerribleCook
And then they swapped out the alcohol in cleaners or other agents with methanol and a bunch of people died
amp99
PissedoffParamedic
Hey! We do this with marijuana!
gatewater
More like, "and what? not fund organized crime? NEVER!"
yamigenesis
Those Damn Anti-hibitionists
PlusHooks
The guy that lobbied for that shit did it because he was stabbed in the leg with a pitchfork by a drunk farmhand when he was a kid.
goodgollygosh
Are you saying that the US should start an underground postal system? As a Canadian, I would be heavily invested in watching that happen.
Songnemtn2000
Imagine how that will go with guns...
ralphie84
I guess I'm just gonna smoke more weed.
AnOceanOfStars
They should prohibit being intelligent.
kman305
Given this simple lesson in US history I surprised people thought a mask mandate would be followed.
Thelrishlnquistion
Should have told them masks can’t be worn. Then watch all those red neck dick heads come out wearing them.
azmyth1
Prohibition was awful and increased crime, but it did lower drinking a lot.
freckledkink
No it didn't
ActionJohnnie
USA in a nutshell
ViolentlyOfferingBeerToSheep
closer to "i'm gonna form several crime syndicates specifically around the drinking of alcohol"
Ineedamorecreativeusernamethanusual
As an alcoholic, I'm in both panels
OnePostCloserToAHappierLIfe
If you think that's good, you're gonna LOVE when your realize they did the same thing with cannabis, it just lasted a few decades longer.
DrSharky
But prohibition really worked to some extent. By the end of it people drank a lot less than they did before it.
hgfurgyhauh4uhghghuhgiqguhniij
Notice how that didn't happen with cigarettes but does with things that are banned.
MaadMaanMaatt
See “War On Drugs”
hgfurgyhauh4uhghghuhgiqguhniij
Exactly
FierceAndAdorable
People don’t beat wives and kids, leave family homeless because of smokes
BinaryRonin
True, they just leave them fatherless. It doesn't take 15 years to buy smokes dad!!
johnnyboy1996
Plus apparently everyone smoked, not just the irish
butsir
This is America in a nutshell
Ronanthecurious
*America* in a nutshell
dalefiretoe
Its human nature. There is a reason they say preachers children are the worst...
breothskin
Can confirm.
VitaminJay
The lead up was pretty rough. A lot of guys were taking their paycheck directly to the bar and getting absolutely wasted then going home...
WoodfolkFae
this happened in the netherlands to you could even be payed in alcohol instead of money although we just fixed general living conditions
VitaminJay
And beating the shit out of their spouse and children. A lot of the call for prohibition was also about surviving domestic abuse...
Tyanet
Prohibition actually worked pretty well. Americans today drink a fraction of what they used to pre-prohibition.
DieselSpider
https://movendi.ngo/news/2020/05/13/alcohol-sales-ban-in-south-africa-benefits-and-big-alcohol-opposition/.
DieselSpider
Not a very well written article but lists min pouts at least
LordNergal
You do realize that argument was presented by the religious right of their era, right? It was part of a plan to turn the U.S. into a 1/
LordNergal
theocracy. Incidentally, this is also why women gained the right to vote during that era; the women's suffrage movement in the U.S. was 2/
LordNergal
part of that group and argued women were naturally more conservative than men. Boy, did feminism prove that wrong... 3/3
SaneBrain
Actually a people's movement brought in prohibition. Drinking dropped for the average man. Not the richies like you see in pictures.
SaneBrain
Deaths from liver disease dropped in NYC and in all larger cities. Evictions dropped by 60% AND beating your wife drunk became illegal.
SaneBrain
drunkenness was not a legal defense anymore. Drunks being responsible for their actions while drunk became a norm.
NotACyberman
Hey I've seen this one, we are like hey, wear masks and stay home. And we were like, no
Gamemaster64
NonZeroSumGame
Are*
freckledkink
It happened during the last pandemic, too.
insortebellum
I'd argue the difference is that drinking alcohol as regulated only puts the individual in direct risk.
DarkBusterBaron
Not necessarily you could kill some e if you drive whilst drunk. Or yo could be very violent when drunk.
insortebellum
As. Regulated.
bogus1983
Sure, unless they're operating a vehicle.
insortebellum
As regulated
serpentinebaboo
I don’t understand why you’re downvoted. The mask wearing is obviously to protect those around you. Prohibition was just bc pearl-clutching.
insortebellum
Probably people not reading the 'as regulated' part and getting upset
Italipino
All drugs should be legalized
zenabel
Which country did that? And then upped addiction help resources and the results were great? I can google it but I like conversations too
Italipino
Portugal decriminalized everything and upped addiction resources. Switzerland opened heroin clinics where addicts could get their fix...
Italipino
...safely administered by medical professionals while receiving addiction treatments and social services like job and housing placement.
Malikhi
I'm all for the safer ones like weed, Molly, shrooms or whatever. But the hard shit is illegal for a reason. Leave it that way.
Italipino
Having it illegal doesn't keep people from using and getting addicted. Addiction is a health issue and should be treated as such.
Stupidhead505
Agreed but a lot of criminal behavior has similar root causes like poverty, maybe we should think about reinventing rehabilitation generally
tequilagrande
Watch midnight gospel
Iwouldbenick
Just don't get caught and you can do wahtever drugs you want.
FakePlasticTreehugger
Portugal did this. They now have the lowest overdose rates in the world by a ridiculous margin.
SidneyHarbor
No they didn't. They decriminalized possession of small quantities of drugs. It's still illegal to manufacture or distribute drugs.
ReLeVaNtUSERNAMESareReLeVaNT
more decriminalized than legalized
Italipino
Problem with only decriminalization is that there is no regulation on the manufacturing, so you still run the risk of tainted product.
thatscool22
No.
Italipino
Lol. Because prohibition had worked out so well right?
Mistruths
*decriminalized.
Italipino
Problem with only decriminalization is that there is no regulation on the manufacturing, so you still run the risk of tainted product.
GreedyJungle
I dunno... cocaine is expensive as hell already. with it being legally privatized nobody will be able to afford it and keep buying illegally
majortaco
Cocain is not particular difficult to produce, especially compared to other products that grow right next to it
majortaco
Its so expensive wholly because it is illegal. You pay so much because the entire supply chain is black market, and peoples lives get ruined
Stupidhead505
Its actually opens up the market diffusing price by competition, plus less costs of manufacturing because less risk of being arrested.
majortaco
Wrong
Italipino
Legalization would remove the black market, which drives prices immensely. Weed prices went down after legalization.
Cthulhukitten
What about krokodil? The Devil's Breath? I don't know man. Also, methanphetamines are crazy addictive and could cripple you for life.
SidneyHarbor
Drug addicts don't know how badly they've screwed up their bodies, they just want everything legalized so they can finish themselves off.
thatscool22
“They’re addictive because they’re illegal!” Or some stupid fucking reasoning. Only marijuana should be legal.
Italipino
Thanks for showing everyone how clueless you are.