Feb 4, 2017 4:54 PM
ChemistryAndPhysicsAreFun
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agentz712x
Had to be from Seattle. Let the Chinese take them
Clockworkdancerobot
There was talk that the order, being as vague in language, could also be used to block/delay tourists from other countries.
sirbartonslady
Not all heroes wear capes.
Churlish1
Heroes wear robes
hphoenix
HERO
Gungagin
Must be sitting on top of his huge balls.
ILove80s90sActionMoviesAndRelatedGifs
cousteau
So how long till T says "I am the state"?
hookerbot5000
I'd be willing to wager $1000 he's said something very similar in private already
TzarCowski
What law did it violate?
GodEmperorOfImgur
State Dept and homeland security seems to agree with him.
lenomdeplume
You do realize the acting head of State refused to comply? And was fired? So, no...not "seem to agree". Other Repub's also against him.
Kierbear2g
They don't have a choice, what with the law being the law.
Irmageddon
#hero
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
The only thing this short-lived ban will have achieved in the end is to lose the US a shit ton of money.Businesses will think twice about...
investing in the US, tourists and foreign students will think twice about their travel/study plans etc. At the end of his term,the dollar...
I already saw an apology mail from the organizers of an international congress hosted in USA about this.
will look worse than it did after 8 years of Bush, and all of Obama's economic progress will have been undone
ChristYarmolyu
Thank you!
JustTheMostLiberal
Unfortunately for him the restraining order won't last. Ultimately, Congress gave the executive the power over immigration.
MilledGrist
Check and balances, beyatch.
ImgurIsFullOfRacists
*So-called judge, according to Dear Leader
Trump is a moronic con-man who has left a trail of failed businesses in his wake.
Trimule
Not a "real" judge-just a Federal District Judge-not like the judges that populate Trump's Reality TV World-Judge Judy, etc.
http://68.media.tumblr.com/654e2c492d647f42adf2cd1ee411c0dd/tumblr_mqm6quaB8D1rl3565o5_r1_250.gif
HighPriestOfCera
The judicial branch has always been kind of obscure to me. I understand the exec. and leg. branches but how the Judicial branch works in1/2
detail is not clear to me. 2/2
ZigZagZombiesZoom
Technically it's just a temporary suspension of the "temporary" ban. It's a good start but the Attny General is working up its defense.
Dyslexicglove
I understand, but what law is he talking about?
Here's the official statement from Trump: http://68.media.tumblr.com/654e2c492d647f42adf2cd1ee411c0dd/tumblr_mqm6quaB8D1rl3565o5_r1_250.gif
butiwasgoingintotoschestationtopickupsomepowerconverters
Stupid George W. Bush appointees...
PaintedSlate
From back when there were still conservatives in government? Obsolete. Drain the swamp.
TheHappyHermit
must be one of those "activist judges" that GWBush criticized in his 2004 SOTU address
TheGhostofLouReed
"So-called" judges!
angmar26
Those usernames
EsteFabiansito
So sad!
Festermooth
Inform me imgur. Is this sarcasm?
hcar
Yes. This judge was a bush appointment.
NipplesInAJar
What?! Nonsense! How could this be sarcasm?
HsuDoNihm
Unpossible.
VodkaReindeer
You shouldn't politicize judges.
rgzdev
To be fair, I think he is politicizing himself if he really said that.
jesusfuckingchristwhatnameisnttaken4
That's HIS FUCKING JOB!
Macynist
I think that the praising/denouncing of judges in person shouldn't be a thing since their personal views should not be a factor in justice
DrKriegersClone
They're also very much prohibited from answering back.
Lawohki
Considering the defense of it was "president says it is needed, we can do it law be damned" this is a rebuttal of that false view.
Corsair212
Actually, 8 U.S. Code § 1182 - Inadmissible aliens, section (f), gives the president clear lawful authority to do what he did.
Their very job is to ignore their personal feelings.Trump's insults that they are biased is a strike at the very core of the judicial branch
sigh5
you accidentally double replied
BetterDemosthenes
Right. I believe no matter what Trump might do through legislation, he has already damaged America in the long term with this kind of crap.
SaraSlaughter
Exactly. He's managed to lower the bar on the integrity scale from a solid 8.5 (Obama) down to a 2. An arrogant pick of the highest order.
InsultToImgury
He's just mad Trump took his stapler.
Boxmakr
eydwerd
I could put strychnine in the guacamole.
IBuiltAFreakingArk
How could he, even with two hands it's a bit much
ABrokenCrayon
The sneaky burn within a burn. I like you.
saucefordipping29
Wow, lets not jump to conclusions
bobwestin
he'll fuck nah, I thought it was his was too
NeoHelios
I'm a little concerned about his suit and tie situation.
Bigdickswangin21
Slow clap
Brodiesan
JesusAssCrackers
mumumumumysharona
kobriengw
I had to come back from another post to upvote your comment
shooter45
The8obman
he asked for no salt on the rim NO SALT
CasualAsshole
Can anyone explain the joke to the dumb people? :(
DanGtp
http://imgur.com/LOYgVPw Dude looks similar to character form the movie Office Space who was obsessed with his stapler
roedelheim
LaAguaChocha
It was a red swingline stapler...
KillingTlme
My first thought as well.. Well played
[deleted]
MacGyverofAnxiety
It's a reference to the movie office space. He resembles a character whose red stapler was taken from him.
RosencrantzNGuildensternNeverLived
He looks like a character from the movie Office Space who has mental problems and is obsessed with his stapler being stolen.
josephducreuxhere
Savage
Planktonini
I have no witty addition. This was a superb comment.
sovietfedor
As a Russian, is he still alive?
Velisity
he's wasting billions of tax dollars that could be used on our schools or our homeless crisis on this fight and illegal immigrants.
GregEvony
Yes. Those same illegal aliens who will very soon go on welfare and Medicare ...
I thought they took your jobs? Won't it be you that's on welfare?
WookieWookieWookie
You want to explain how an illegal immigrant could claim government benefits?
Washington state is a sanctuary state. illegals can get food stamps, wic, housing no questions asked
those who down voted me go look up "other ways of obtaining services" while being illegal. They can claim "abuse victim". Tons of loop holes
DontAskMelJustWorkHere
Wait I'm confused, if they're taking your jobs why would they need welfare/Medicare?
wysm
What law? It is legal to ban immigration based on religion, though that isn't what Trump did: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1182
sexconker
Facts dont matter to imgur liberals. You dont have to like trump or his policies, but if you want to argue about them, learn basic civics.
Shadehawk
thats where the loophole comes in, he didnt ban MUSLIMS, he banned 7 countries that just happened to BE mostly muslim.
herrau
Out of interest: is there a way for the American people to remove their president from his post mid-term? Like if he's insane or such?
We can seriously hamper his power by taking control of both houses in 2018; assuming good people of this country get woke.
philcollinsdrumbreakdown
Yes. 25th.
I can't see the Republicans in the House and Senate turning on him to pass an impeachment vote for anything less than proof of collusion 1/
2/ with Putin. And it would take a miracle for the Dem's to take enough seats in the 2018 midterms to impeach him on their own.
As a nonUS citizen/resident, how come the repubs always seem to own the senate?
Fexcad
Because 39 million people in California get 2 senators. 500k in Wyoming also get 2 senators.
And then they control the house through gerry mandering.
Countdown to the Impeachment and Conviction of Donald J Trump...
noodlebowl
Of what just asking
It's like you have no idea what you're talking about. Do you even know what follows impeachment?
Yes I do. A trial. Which , given Trumps first 10 days of carnage will most likely yield a conviction. Clear it up any for you?
Greenplantpaperwork
pffft.
We'll see....time will tell.
Haldeman, Erhlichman, Mitchell and Dean. And Nixon.
They're dead and has nothing to do with this administration anyway.
Those who forget the past...
Not seeing any parallel but if it feeds your fantasies let it rip.
Alamyst2011
Except the law is very specific. The Pres can ban any non citizen for any amount of time. Like Obama, Bush, Carter and T.J. did.
rossimus
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Does+the+14th+amendment+protect+non+citizens%3F
historycat
Please site the law. I'll get you started INA sec 212.....
heylistenLDN
I mean this in the best possible sense and I may be wrong. But I would imagine the judge knows more than you.....
GreatTeacherMichael
Pfff... don't know you my ignorance is just as valid as an expert's knowledge?
MrChiPigg
Prove it. Don't be one of those shitting conjecture for the world to digest.
ArcaneConjecture
If someone has a Green Card, you can't deprive them of that right without due process. Trump didn't provide due process.
Yes you can. There is no such due process or guarantee of entry for various visa holders. Citizens have that right, not non citizens.
The 5th Amendment says, "No *person* shall...be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law". Person, not "citizen".
Google: 14th amendment
DeanP3456562456456
Rights on u.s soil are only for citizens.
IronicUsername
This is incorrect and could have been Googled in about 10 seconds.
Greencard = legal permanent resident = constitutional protections.
Might as well burn your constitution after you're done shitting on it. Go look up the 14th amendment if you don't get it.
tankdog420
That is not true. Due process is for anyone here.
Maybe due to be processed out of here...
lol, +1.
marsgoose
Green card holders were exempt from the immigration moratorium.
That can't be possible, imgur told me "President" Trump is illegals.
thesu
Let's be honest: the first 24 Hours NOBODY FUCKING KNEW, because the EO didn't specify.
2) I'm not sure how familiar with the immigration process you are, but for mine my identity and legal status were provided...
It does not mention affecting currently issued visas, it does mention suspension of visa issuance and other immigration benefits.
I'm not sure how familiar you are with the immigration process. In my case, proof of identity and no criminal activity were provided
PiffTheMagicDildo
Only specific types of green cards and visas are blocked from coming in, most are allowed to come in.
Yes, and those specific types didn't get due process.
It's mostly the ones with less of a security check being blocked. Which, given that 11 attacks on us soil were done by people with visas or
Green cards, is completely understandable.
leemon69
Please list all 11 attacks and the place of origin of all attackers, and mention how many people white males have killed. I am a white male.
Yes he can. The Constitution is absolute in this.
Jesus fucking christ people. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Does+the+14th+amendment+protect+non+citizens%3F
shadyminivan
And you're absolute in your stupidity
GlassTurtle
Which article is that?
Where does it say that?? Where?
DoctorDelta
The Constitution is absolute in that due process cannot be infringed upon. Amendments take precedents over the original text.
Please show me this non existing amendment..
The 5th is the one you're looking for.
No such process is due for non citizens... Non citizens do NOT have a right to reentry. The executive branch controls the border. LEARN!
14th amendment https://ricochet.com/archives/constitutional-rights-for-non-citizens/ LEARN
quintinza
Didn't Obama ok the killing of a US citizen via drone strike? Or does due process not cover drone strikes. Serious question.
What Obama did was unconstitutional. Congress should have busted him for it.
Antermosiph
Patriot act allowed that.
Nccoffee
Does due process cover two illegitimate wars? Serious question
pastorsamuel85
Question: when did Obama ban anyone?
PaulTheBod
Tl;dr: he didn't ban anyoke but he may have done something illegal with an ex.ord. in 2014
http://www.snopes.com/president-obama-ban-muslims-2011/
TheStealthHippopotamus
Well. You can see a 90 "ban" as a delay. So it would be exactly what the Obama administration did. Depending on how long the earlier delay
Ah okay. Thanks. I was waiting for someone to respond with "but Obama" and post this. Cheers friend.
GeauxTiggers
You meant to post a source about how obama didn't ban anyone right?
Yes. Sad thing is all Trump had to do was take the time to give some Due Process and he could've done it legally. But Trump was too lazy.
bustrpoindextr
He did, he posted it elsewhere as well.
IronCretin
.
He didn't but if I'm correct he still *may* have violated a law, regarding a region specific slow down of visas. I may be wrong...
...but I'm still researching it myself.
How dare you admit you're uncertain and attempt to educate yourself, the internet is no place for such things!
Why do rightwingers lie so much? Obama never banned. http://www.snopes.com/president-obama-ban-muslims-2011/
KaiserSkald
Trump didn't ban Muslims, and yes Obama did ban citizens of certain countries.
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/al-qaeda-kentucky-us-dozens-terrorists-country-refugees/story?id=20931131
PeachyPanic
They're not lies, they're alternative facts.
Fox dishes out these nuggets that "pass the idiot test" re: believability and they just repeat it; they learn it's a lie, but still push it.
thanatos777
Because reality has a liberal bias.
SomeDetroitGuy
As a right-winger whi hates Trump and recognizes that the anti-Muslim ban is bullshit, fuck right off with that garbage.
You shouldn't be downvoted, that's a shitty situation to be stuck in.
gamblingpoet
People will read Snopes and think it is a liberal website, supported by Soros. They forget that reality has a liberal bias.
Especially when sources are quoted with easy to follow links.
"Hundreds of people say Trump attacking someone with a baseball bat" "FAKE NEWS THEY WERE ALL PAID OFF BY SOROS TO LIE"
marsupialsrus
Liberal = for the people / Conservative = for the money
Dreigiau
Libertariate = for the freedom and efficiency of gov't
xedative
I'm not from the US, but holy fuck if that doesn't deserve an award for the biggest generalization.
Indeed it is
agentz712x
Had to be from Seattle. Let the Chinese take them
Clockworkdancerobot
There was talk that the order, being as vague in language, could also be used to block/delay tourists from other countries.
sirbartonslady
Not all heroes wear capes.
Churlish1
Heroes wear robes
hphoenix
HERO
Gungagin
Must be sitting on top of his huge balls.
ILove80s90sActionMoviesAndRelatedGifs
cousteau
So how long till T says "I am the state"?
hookerbot5000
I'd be willing to wager $1000 he's said something very similar in private already
TzarCowski
What law did it violate?
GodEmperorOfImgur
State Dept and homeland security seems to agree with him.
lenomdeplume
You do realize the acting head of State refused to comply? And was fired? So, no...not "seem to agree". Other Repub's also against him.
Kierbear2g
They don't have a choice, what with the law being the law.
Irmageddon
#hero
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
The only thing this short-lived ban will have achieved in the end is to lose the US a shit ton of money.Businesses will think twice about...
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
investing in the US, tourists and foreign students will think twice about their travel/study plans etc. At the end of his term,the dollar...
cousteau
I already saw an apology mail from the organizers of an international congress hosted in USA about this.
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
will look worse than it did after 8 years of Bush, and all of Obama's economic progress will have been undone
ChristYarmolyu
Thank you!
JustTheMostLiberal
Unfortunately for him the restraining order won't last. Ultimately, Congress gave the executive the power over immigration.
MilledGrist
Check and balances, beyatch.
ImgurIsFullOfRacists
*So-called judge, according to Dear Leader
lenomdeplume
Trump is a moronic con-man who has left a trail of failed businesses in his wake.
Trimule
Not a "real" judge-just a Federal District Judge-not like the judges that populate Trump's Reality TV World-Judge Judy, etc.
ImgurIsFullOfRacists
http://68.media.tumblr.com/654e2c492d647f42adf2cd1ee411c0dd/tumblr_mqm6quaB8D1rl3565o5_r1_250.gif
HighPriestOfCera
The judicial branch has always been kind of obscure to me. I understand the exec. and leg. branches but how the Judicial branch works in1/2
HighPriestOfCera
detail is not clear to me. 2/2
ZigZagZombiesZoom
Technically it's just a temporary suspension of the "temporary" ban. It's a good start but the Attny General is working up its defense.
Dyslexicglove
I understand, but what law is he talking about?
ImgurIsFullOfRacists
Here's the official statement from Trump: http://68.media.tumblr.com/654e2c492d647f42adf2cd1ee411c0dd/tumblr_mqm6quaB8D1rl3565o5_r1_250.gif
butiwasgoingintotoschestationtopickupsomepowerconverters
Stupid George W. Bush appointees...
PaintedSlate
From back when there were still conservatives in government? Obsolete. Drain the swamp.
TheHappyHermit
must be one of those "activist judges" that GWBush criticized in his 2004 SOTU address
TheGhostofLouReed
"So-called" judges!
angmar26
Those usernames
EsteFabiansito
So sad!
Festermooth
Inform me imgur. Is this sarcasm?
hcar
Yes. This judge was a bush appointment.
NipplesInAJar
What?! Nonsense! How could this be sarcasm?
HsuDoNihm
Unpossible.
VodkaReindeer
You shouldn't politicize judges.
rgzdev
To be fair, I think he is politicizing himself if he really said that.
jesusfuckingchristwhatnameisnttaken4
That's HIS FUCKING JOB!
Macynist
I think that the praising/denouncing of judges in person shouldn't be a thing since their personal views should not be a factor in justice
DrKriegersClone
They're also very much prohibited from answering back.
Lawohki
Considering the defense of it was "president says it is needed, we can do it law be damned" this is a rebuttal of that false view.
Corsair212
Actually, 8 U.S. Code § 1182 - Inadmissible aliens, section (f), gives the president clear lawful authority to do what he did.
jesusfuckingchristwhatnameisnttaken4
Their very job is to ignore their personal feelings.Trump's insults that they are biased is a strike at the very core of the judicial branch
sigh5
you accidentally double replied
jesusfuckingchristwhatnameisnttaken4
Their very job is to ignore their personal feelings.Trump's insults that they are biased is a strike at the very core of the judicial branch
BetterDemosthenes
Right. I believe no matter what Trump might do through legislation, he has already damaged America in the long term with this kind of crap.
SaraSlaughter
Exactly. He's managed to lower the bar on the integrity scale from a solid 8.5 (Obama) down to a 2. An arrogant pick of the highest order.
InsultToImgury
He's just mad Trump took his stapler.
Boxmakr
eydwerd
I could put strychnine in the guacamole.
IBuiltAFreakingArk
How could he, even with two hands it's a bit much
ABrokenCrayon
The sneaky burn within a burn. I like you.
saucefordipping29
Wow, lets not jump to conclusions
bobwestin
he'll fuck nah, I thought it was his was too
NeoHelios
I'm a little concerned about his suit and tie situation.
Bigdickswangin21
Slow clap
Brodiesan
JesusAssCrackers
mumumumumysharona
kobriengw
I had to come back from another post to upvote your comment
shooter45
The8obman
he asked for no salt on the rim NO SALT
CasualAsshole
Can anyone explain the joke to the dumb people? :(
DanGtp
http://imgur.com/LOYgVPw Dude looks similar to character form the movie Office Space who was obsessed with his stapler
roedelheim
LaAguaChocha
It was a red swingline stapler...
KillingTlme
My first thought as well.. Well played
[deleted]
[deleted]
MacGyverofAnxiety
It's a reference to the movie office space. He resembles a character whose red stapler was taken from him.
RosencrantzNGuildensternNeverLived
He looks like a character from the movie Office Space who has mental problems and is obsessed with his stapler being stolen.
roedelheim
josephducreuxhere
Savage
Planktonini
I have no witty addition. This was a superb comment.
sovietfedor
As a Russian, is he still alive?
Velisity
he's wasting billions of tax dollars that could be used on our schools or our homeless crisis on this fight and illegal immigrants.
GregEvony
Yes. Those same illegal aliens who will very soon go on welfare and Medicare ...
jesusfuckingchristwhatnameisnttaken4
I thought they took your jobs? Won't it be you that's on welfare?
WookieWookieWookie
You want to explain how an illegal immigrant could claim government benefits?
Velisity
Washington state is a sanctuary state. illegals can get food stamps, wic, housing no questions asked
Velisity
those who down voted me go look up "other ways of obtaining services" while being illegal. They can claim "abuse victim". Tons of loop holes
DontAskMelJustWorkHere
Wait I'm confused, if they're taking your jobs why would they need welfare/Medicare?
wysm
What law? It is legal to ban immigration based on religion, though that isn't what Trump did: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1182
sexconker
Facts dont matter to imgur liberals. You dont have to like trump or his policies, but if you want to argue about them, learn basic civics.
sexconker
Facts dont matter to imgur liberals. You dont have to like trump or his policies, but if you want to argue about them, learn basic civics.
sexconker
Facts dont matter to imgur liberals. You dont have to like trump or his policies, but if you want to argue about them, learn basic civics.
sexconker
Facts dont matter to imgur liberals. You dont have to like trump or his policies, but if you want to argue about them, learn basic civics.
sexconker
Facts dont matter to imgur liberals. You dont have to like trump or his policies, but if you want to argue about them, learn basic civics.
sexconker
Facts dont matter to imgur liberals. You dont have to like trump or his policies, but if you want to argue about them, learn basic civics.
Shadehawk
thats where the loophole comes in, he didnt ban MUSLIMS, he banned 7 countries that just happened to BE mostly muslim.
herrau
Out of interest: is there a way for the American people to remove their president from his post mid-term? Like if he's insane or such?
jesusfuckingchristwhatnameisnttaken4
We can seriously hamper his power by taking control of both houses in 2018; assuming good people of this country get woke.
philcollinsdrumbreakdown
Yes. 25th.
DrKriegersClone
I can't see the Republicans in the House and Senate turning on him to pass an impeachment vote for anything less than proof of collusion 1/
DrKriegersClone
2/ with Putin. And it would take a miracle for the Dem's to take enough seats in the 2018 midterms to impeach him on their own.
DontAskMelJustWorkHere
As a nonUS citizen/resident, how come the repubs always seem to own the senate?
Fexcad
Because 39 million people in California get 2 senators. 500k in Wyoming also get 2 senators.
Fexcad
And then they control the house through gerry mandering.
lenomdeplume
Countdown to the Impeachment and Conviction of Donald J Trump...
noodlebowl
Of what just asking
sexconker
It's like you have no idea what you're talking about. Do you even know what follows impeachment?
lenomdeplume
Yes I do. A trial. Which , given Trumps first 10 days of carnage will most likely yield a conviction. Clear it up any for you?
Greenplantpaperwork
pffft.
lenomdeplume
We'll see....time will tell.
lenomdeplume
Haldeman, Erhlichman, Mitchell and Dean. And Nixon.
Greenplantpaperwork
They're dead and has nothing to do with this administration anyway.
lenomdeplume
Those who forget the past...
Greenplantpaperwork
Not seeing any parallel but if it feeds your fantasies let it rip.
Alamyst2011
Except the law is very specific. The Pres can ban any non citizen for any amount of time. Like Obama, Bush, Carter and T.J. did.
rossimus
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Does+the+14th+amendment+protect+non+citizens%3F
historycat
Please site the law. I'll get you started INA sec 212.....
heylistenLDN
I mean this in the best possible sense and I may be wrong. But I would imagine the judge knows more than you.....
GreatTeacherMichael
Pfff... don't know you my ignorance is just as valid as an expert's knowledge?
MrChiPigg
Prove it. Don't be one of those shitting conjecture for the world to digest.
ArcaneConjecture
If someone has a Green Card, you can't deprive them of that right without due process. Trump didn't provide due process.
sexconker
Yes you can. There is no such due process or guarantee of entry for various visa holders. Citizens have that right, not non citizens.
ArcaneConjecture
The 5th Amendment says, "No *person* shall...be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law". Person, not "citizen".
DontAskMelJustWorkHere
Google: 14th amendment
DeanP3456562456456
Rights on u.s soil are only for citizens.
rossimus
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Does+the+14th+amendment+protect+non+citizens%3F
IronicUsername
This is incorrect and could have been Googled in about 10 seconds.
Kierbear2g
Greencard = legal permanent resident = constitutional protections.
DontAskMelJustWorkHere
Might as well burn your constitution after you're done shitting on it. Go look up the 14th amendment if you don't get it.
tankdog420
That is not true. Due process is for anyone here.
DeanP3456562456456
Maybe due to be processed out of here...
ArcaneConjecture
lol, +1.
marsgoose
Green card holders were exempt from the immigration moratorium.
rgzdev
That can't be possible, imgur told me "President" Trump is illegals.
thesu
Let's be honest: the first 24 Hours NOBODY FUCKING KNEW, because the EO didn't specify.
marsgoose
2) I'm not sure how familiar with the immigration process you are, but for mine my identity and legal status were provided...
marsgoose
It does not mention affecting currently issued visas, it does mention suspension of visa issuance and other immigration benefits.
marsgoose
I'm not sure how familiar you are with the immigration process. In my case, proof of identity and no criminal activity were provided
PiffTheMagicDildo
Only specific types of green cards and visas are blocked from coming in, most are allowed to come in.
rossimus
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Does+the+14th+amendment+protect+non+citizens%3F
ArcaneConjecture
Yes, and those specific types didn't get due process.
PiffTheMagicDildo
It's mostly the ones with less of a security check being blocked. Which, given that 11 attacks on us soil were done by people with visas or
PiffTheMagicDildo
Green cards, is completely understandable.
leemon69
Please list all 11 attacks and the place of origin of all attackers, and mention how many people white males have killed. I am a white male.
Alamyst2011
Yes he can. The Constitution is absolute in this.
rossimus
Jesus fucking christ people. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Does+the+14th+amendment+protect+non+citizens%3F
shadyminivan
And you're absolute in your stupidity
GlassTurtle
Which article is that?
ArcaneConjecture
Where does it say that?? Where?
DoctorDelta
The Constitution is absolute in that due process cannot be infringed upon. Amendments take precedents over the original text.
Alamyst2011
Please show me this non existing amendment..
TheGhostofLouReed
The 5th is the one you're looking for.
sexconker
No such process is due for non citizens... Non citizens do NOT have a right to reentry. The executive branch controls the border. LEARN!
DoctorDelta
14th amendment https://ricochet.com/archives/constitutional-rights-for-non-citizens/ LEARN
quintinza
Didn't Obama ok the killing of a US citizen via drone strike? Or does due process not cover drone strikes. Serious question.
ArcaneConjecture
What Obama did was unconstitutional. Congress should have busted him for it.
Antermosiph
Patriot act allowed that.
Nccoffee
Does due process cover two illegitimate wars? Serious question
pastorsamuel85
Question: when did Obama ban anyone?
PaulTheBod
Tl;dr: he didn't ban anyoke but he may have done something illegal with an ex.ord. in 2014
ArcaneConjecture
http://www.snopes.com/president-obama-ban-muslims-2011/
TheStealthHippopotamus
Well. You can see a 90 "ban" as a delay. So it would be exactly what the Obama administration did. Depending on how long the earlier delay
pastorsamuel85
Ah okay. Thanks. I was waiting for someone to respond with "but Obama" and post this. Cheers friend.
GeauxTiggers
You meant to post a source about how obama didn't ban anyone right?
ArcaneConjecture
Yes. Sad thing is all Trump had to do was take the time to give some Due Process and he could've done it legally. But Trump was too lazy.
bustrpoindextr
He did, he posted it elsewhere as well.
IronCretin
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PaulTheBod
He didn't but if I'm correct he still *may* have violated a law, regarding a region specific slow down of visas. I may be wrong...
PaulTheBod
...but I'm still researching it myself.
DontAskMelJustWorkHere
How dare you admit you're uncertain and attempt to educate yourself, the internet is no place for such things!
ArcaneConjecture
Why do rightwingers lie so much? Obama never banned. http://www.snopes.com/president-obama-ban-muslims-2011/
KaiserSkald
Trump didn't ban Muslims, and yes Obama did ban citizens of certain countries.
KaiserSkald
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/al-qaeda-kentucky-us-dozens-terrorists-country-refugees/story?id=20931131
PeachyPanic
They're not lies, they're alternative facts.
jesusfuckingchristwhatnameisnttaken4
Fox dishes out these nuggets that "pass the idiot test" re: believability and they just repeat it; they learn it's a lie, but still push it.
thanatos777
Because reality has a liberal bias.
SomeDetroitGuy
As a right-winger whi hates Trump and recognizes that the anti-Muslim ban is bullshit, fuck right off with that garbage.
DontAskMelJustWorkHere
You shouldn't be downvoted, that's a shitty situation to be stuck in.
gamblingpoet
People will read Snopes and think it is a liberal website, supported by Soros. They forget that reality has a liberal bias.
Clockworkdancerobot
Especially when sources are quoted with easy to follow links.
gamblingpoet
"Hundreds of people say Trump attacking someone with a baseball bat" "FAKE NEWS THEY WERE ALL PAID OFF BY SOROS TO LIE"
marsupialsrus
Liberal = for the people / Conservative = for the money
Dreigiau
Libertariate = for the freedom and efficiency of gov't
xedative
I'm not from the US, but holy fuck if that doesn't deserve an award for the biggest generalization.
marsupialsrus
Indeed it is