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DelCorazon
Agree that this should be provided through taxes, but $140/mo for Br. and lunch? Someone’s making a profit!!
Aaronb1138
Stop offering daily menu choices and costs will massively plummet. This is what the Nordic countries have done and their costs are <$2/meal.
RummageSaleBubbler
Mitch McConnel can't sleep until all poor children are thoroughly punished for being born poor.
SithShodan
A friend of mine worked for his office, said he was a massive asshole in person and quote "i can't accurately convey how bad his breath is"
amb1021
Arkansas has zero Democrats in Congress. Even Mississippi has one Dem House member. Perhaps Arkansans should wake up.
jj86
I am for it. My parents were too poor to get school lunch but mom still made sandwiches and put an apple in my bag lunch.
ElbowDeepInAllTheThings
My school is still doing free breakfast and lunch for all our students. Those are the only meals that many of my students get.
MOSIA
There is no reason not to feed every child in every school and not charge their families one cent. The only stance against is cruel greed.
NotThatPrivate
California just passed free lunch for K - 12...
JackOfA11
Socialist California has free lunch for all students. Those bastards are feeding hungry children from the wealth of tax money they collect.
OMFGWhatHaveWeDONE
Trivia: 1-in-8 Americans live in that state. Its GDP is the highest in the US and ranked 5th in the world
erminio
But the food isn't very good.
GaySocialistLiberalMuslimCommieAtheist
Nope. But perfection is not the enemy of progress.
LumosMx
Breakfast too!
mirrorada
yep, free breakfast and lunch for all kids k-12 as of this year!
SwayzeS
Thank you, Californians, for providing nutritious food for young children, during their formative years. You're building up future citizens.
sowasvonsowas
Free lunches have been eliminated in our school district. Some parents have created a fund for paying lunch debts of 1/2
kids whose parents can't afford it. No kid is denied a lunch, but a tab is started for each one & it must be paid by year's end. 2/2
harpti
I really don’t understand what my taxes are being used for…
downsouthfarm
Blowing up Ukraine
GeForcen
Making new stuff to kill brown people.
georgedragonslayer
It is being used to prop up severely mis-managed corporations. Oh sorry. Not mis-managed. They are stealing from you.
Corvidqueen
Not infrastructure for sure. I nearly lost my car in a pothole this morning.
fraxinusoleaceae
For federal, this think tank compiles reasonable data since the federal gov't stopped compiling in 2014 https://www.nationalpriorities.org/
Some school lunch is fed https://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/food-nutrition-assistance/child-nutrition-programs/national-school-lunch-program/
But much of this is state level, which is quite hard to pin down funding for (some state tax, some fed grant, etc).
Keeping women subjected to bearing children.
superhans1988
Nailed it
chockodragon
I grew up in a poor household in Australia. The government never gave lunch. I was healthy and thin.
wantednokes
In Ontario, we just bring a lunch...
Ekaris9
You can afford lunches in Ontario? Must be nice.
lAmGnomeAnn
In S Korea all the students were fed at the school- no one brought lunch from home. They helped serve each other and everyone ate the same 1
thing. Then they'd help clean up! I love the equalizing nature of this practice, and that every child gets fed. USA, we can do much better.
cosinewave
One of the political parties enjoys punishing poor people for being poor while claiming they want to put God back into government. Go figure
Iblamemyparentstoo
God back into schools.....
Which is what Arkansans vote for/don't bother voting at all. Repeatedly. Seems they don't mind their kids going hungry.
basiccricket8444
Remember when we halved child poverty then gave up on it?
johnvictor
This is also a little veiled attempt at racism in this country perpetuating given the majority of those affected are minorities, immigrants.
putcleverusernamehere
I think it's simpler than that - they want all the cookies, and they've convinced the cult that those without cookies are just lazy
tiderfish
Their vengeful brand of god
Cargobiker530
That's the same "God" that supposedly killed everybody but one super incestuous family in a flood for spite.
sarabear
BuT tHaT wAs OlD tEsTaMeNt GoD, before his son allowed himself to be gruesomely murdered, which supposedly calmed him down? so fucked up…
Canofminus
The same god who has a real boner for killing babies. Floods, plagues, just smiting 1st born sons, “holy” wars, etc.
Illithidbane
1 Samuel 15:3, Exodus 12:29-30, Isaiah 13:15-16, Jeremiah 19:7-9
neonsnake
samwyze
You say death, but fanatics say "Returning to God" so it's a good thing. They want it. It's the whole reason for living.
DraconianMarshmallowPoink
To be clear, they only use religion to convince the poor to keep voting for their own poverty.
RedWingedBlackbirds
Please everyone vote out all Rs everywhere - local, state, all elections - especially in the midterms. https://www.nass.org/can-I-vote
itsthevoiceman
Because there's "Always A Bigger Fish": https://youtu.be/agzNANfNlTs
AccountCreatedToUpvoteDogs
"I'm Christian!" *points to vengeful Old Testament for all their excuses*
caledric
You mean the Torah?
Maybe? I have never looked into if the Torah is equivalent to the old testament or if the OT is a subset of the Torah
I think the OT is a subset of the Torah, The Quran is also heavily based off the OT as well. All the things the Evangelicals hate about
those two religions is what they preach their basis of the "Christian" religion on. All they care about is labels though.
FlyingButtPliers
Desperate people turn to god as a last resort for the little bit of hope or provides.
W0lfsbl00d
They're trying to slowly kill aspects of government that don't benefit their plans to turn control over to pvt corporations and the church.
And killing social programs and making people poorer and desperate, they want them to the church for support. And be low wage slave labor.
*Them to turn to the church
dumidiot
Is this an American thing? Sure my school had a cafeteria, but it was the norm that you just had lunch from home.
Jawesome19
Let's get it together people what the fuck
ChristinaRnne
Wealthiest country in the World is a joke... Cant even feed the population
SpendifferousLeo
Hey in California we have free lunch for kids. Where are all the lecherous trumpets calling us mismanaged now?
Rookvlees
Gay here. Don’t have, want, or like (most) kids. But holy fuck as a society, we must care for them. 100% ok w my taxes feeding others’ kids.
N0S4A2
that being said, some could definitely work on their pullout game
Ultratoxic
I'm just a millennial curmudgeon who's opted not to reproduce, but even I agree kids deserve to be fed.
sehven
Cishet and childless (and intend to stay that way) and I demand my taxes feed others' kids.
Only complete monsters would vote against taking care of children in this day and age.
Fynndango
I'm with The Gay.
Hi gay
MerkinSuit
Ah, a fellow human, I like human orientated people. Opposite is self harm really, humans against humans doesn't make sense.
Sasurau
As a working American who neither has, nor wants, kids, I wholeheartedly support education, school meals, and many other such programs be-
cause, even from a selfish cunt of a view, having an educated population means I have to work with less absolute fuckwits as coworkers. And
you know, I'm not a fucking sociopath and don't think kids should go hungry.
cashea
My parent friends bitch about taxes. I remind them that I am ok paying for their kids to go to school. May I have their tax break now?
FuckingTurtleBear
likely a stupid question, and sorry if so, but are Americans not allowed to bring lunch from home? (those that can I mean)
I'll admit I find the school lunch issue odd since that's what I did. But my wife worked at a school and I heard how bad some of those (1/2)
kids had it. If taxpayer provided lunches can ease that burden at all, then I say do it. (2/2)
EatsBees
they can, but buying food to take to school is an added cost for many families that are already struggling
"Those that can".
reallynotmikepence
No, they are.
ah, rightio. cheers
Math -- about $3.5 / meal -- ($140/month) / (5 days/week * 4 weeks/month * 2 meals/day) => $3.5/meal -- assuming no holidays/skipped meals.
Einbrecher
Must be shopping at Whole Foods or something.
GodofBacon
To be fair...(letterkennyreferencehere) $3.5 per meal is par for the course after inflation.
troyandabedpostoniiiiimgur
It costs me £1.30 a day for lunch, probably about 50p for breakfast. And I don't buy in bulk.
What types of things are you eating?
Usually make a chicken tuna or egg sub sandwich for lunch. Toast and crumpets for breakfast. Fruit/veg/nuts on the side.
Great sounding lunch. I would expect in bulk schools can save further on this. I wonder if their costs include labor, tables, cleaning, ...?
They must be including costs like that, but I bet they're also including it in thei budgets and doubling up by passing it on to parents too.
Jthechef
I don’t get this, surely the parents need to feed their kids. You shouldn’t have them if you can’t even feed them.
garbag3mancan
Ideally, sure. But nature didn't program sexual impulse to work with rational thought. Personally, I'm sympathetic to "it takes a village"
JoJoSapiens
In the ideal world, yes, but in reality some parents will always fall short. It's not fair to starve the blameless child in that case.
While true, the world would be a much better place if that's how it actually played out in reality.
randomguy365
"Those kids wouldn't be hungry if we got rid of child labor laws and let them earn a living instead of going to school." -Conservatives
CobainsSarcoma
... immediately before grabbing a bottle of jergens and unzipping their pants yes, they actually get off on others' suffering
MisterRichard
Not satire. This is a real position held by many real conservatives.
cadesama
Gingrich literally argued for repealing child labor laws.
Tigersterne
Libertarian roommate of mine opposed school lunches because it's better for kids to be hungry than learn dependence. I don't talk to him now
chammey
They probably missed one meal in their lifetime and then felt like a wilderness survival expert. Starvation diet might fix that attitude.
Eh, he was just one of those extremists who think literally nothing good can come from government
You joke but dozens of teens were found to be working beating minor restrictions in Alabama
This was not a joke.
He 100% made a joke. You may not feel as though the topic is up for a joking manner, but he definitely joked there. Practice reading more.
He is Me oh Bacon God. Maybe you need to practice your omnipotence.
Or continue to practice reading. If you still can't tell when someone's joking.
Mortalnick
Sorry, grew up with meals needing to be bought or packed. It's the parents responsibility to provide for their kid.
Most countries don't provide free lunch. France, Italy, Canada. Some countries don't even have kitchens. It's all bring from home.
Fishkeeper
Well, they should have free lunch, given how many kids it helps.
Don't need to worry about helping kids with free lunch if your country isn't a shithole.
Fair, but saving parents some trouble is still a good thing. And surely they don't have 0 poverty at all.
tsuelue
Well, there is poverty and then there is american poverty. And that one is of course bigger, better, and much worse.
UncleMeaty
No, they shouldn't. Because it's something that shouldn't be needed. It's a band-aid solution to a much larger problem.
Given that there doesn't seem to be much hope of solving the larger problem anytime soon, I'll take the band-aid, please.
Even if every kid in the country has enough food, won't hurt to save the parents some trouble packing a lunch.
By that logic, why don't we just have schools do everything for parents?
Part of the goal of a school is to take a lot of burden off of parents, isn't it? With the other part mostly being learning from experts.
temporarilyhuman
Kids and parents MUST be supported 100%. But I have 5 poverty-level siblings who won't stop having kids, and it's a huge part of the problem
Wyrdbunny
Maybe for the next birthday or baby shower buy them a Costco size crate of condoms?
waitwuh
Why do you think they keep having kids? Besides education, I can’t think of any other way to mitigate too many mouths to feed.
I love them but: peer pressure (surrounded by families); lack of prospects; and all the love/support when pregnant. It's addictive.
glibbo
Controversial point here but, when did it ever become someone else's problem to raise your kids ?
riderofthepurplesage
That's the problem with 7.5 Billion people. Other peoples kids are your problem.
Causeitsmadeofmeat
Is it not everyone's problem to educate your kids? Maybe society benefits from an educated populace? no food=poor education for the poor
PrincessWasabi
The cost of transportation has increased exponentially which is passed on to the increased cost of food. I think we can also all acknowledge
Housing has increased. Everything is way more expensive ! More and more people are unable to keep up with these rising costs since wages
Have stagnated, or do not account for inflation. Times are tough! Nobody should starve when we generate 150k tons of food waste daily in USA
WedsBunneh
I am in California and I don't have kids. AND I am so happy my taxes go to feeding kids a free lunch and breakfast.
duckaroosky
Californian and no kids. But I grew up poor and know what food insecurity feels like. So happy that my taxes are going towards helping(1/2)
Me too! I was so glad when it was announced!
kids so they never experience what I did. (2/2)
I mean I love ramen. I do. But there were days when it was rice and SPAM for like forever.
zerogiven
Also Californian, and also no kids. So what? It's in *all* our best interests for the next generation to be raised and educated well.
That's what I was saying. California just assured free lunch and breakfasts for kids. And I'm onboard with that.
Perhaps you read that as sarcasm? When I assure you, it is not. I AM happy it is being done.
Ah, then I apologize. I totally *did* read it as sarcasm; Poe's Law and all that. Sorry for misunderstanding your point!
Totally okay! I can see how it could be taken that way! And yes, we all need to help others up. It's our societal duty and a pleasure!
thevortexmaster
In Canada School provided lunch free or paid is quite rare here. It's all on the parents to provide poor or not.
EmeraldLight
I've never known a Canadian school to have free food... maybe because I'm in northern BC and everything is stupid
I've never known any school to have free or for sake other than the odd hot lunch Friday or something like th hat
lordfancypantz
In Denmark it's usually the parents to provide the lunch. However 'murica, being an industrialized 3rd world country, they could need it.
Outofposition
In the UK school meals are free for everyone for the first three years. After that it's means tested, so free if you can't afford it.
GrimFinn
In Finland school lunch is free up to high school. University students get a discounted lunch at campus restaurants, price is sth like 2,70€
Jizanthepus
In BC in the 90s there was a free lunch in school but it wasn't amazing so we would use it when we forgot to bring one
Not in any of the 6 schools I went to in BC.
Ooh were we classmates? Georges Vanier 1989-95, frank hurt 2001-2, Christian schools in between
Hahah nope. A school in Fort nelson and 5 different schools in a tiny town called Powell River
Lugh314159
Absolutely true, but a little misleading. Canada doesn’t have free lunch programs, but the have much more robust social safety nets.
We do have a good social safety netting
SoniqueTui
But parents here get CTTB, especially if poor, and that can help quite a bit. It's not perfect, but it's something.
I'm not sure what that is. Child benefit payments?
Yes. You can make ~700 a month if yer super poor to help with feeding/clothing your kid. And some schools have free breakfast.
Ahhh, that has to be provincial. I went to 6 different schools in BC. Not one had any food. My wife is a teacher and no schools in her>>>>
District have food and neither does my kids school. We get $160 a month for our 6 year old. Were not under the poverty line though
xsnlx
Yes, and the massive savings that Canadians enjoy by having national healthcare. In the U.S. it costs more than 2X as much per capita.
bakerguy1337
https://www.reddit.com/r/vancouver/comments/wtbxml/multiple_ambulances_unstaffed_today_please_be/
thisismycatsaccount
Yeah, this always confuses me. Is this an American thing? I never had breakfast at school free or not and cafeteria lunch was a ‘luxury’.
excableguy
During Covid, the federal government payed for meals for all school kids. Republicans opposed renewing funding to continue it so it stopped
SonrisaFlores
It's a Californian thing now. ;)
Schools in USA have generally always offered cafeteria food. Free for low income families. Sometimes it's their best meal.
LocalPumpkinHero
Sometimes it's their only meal, and their parents struggle to feed them in summer.
LateNightBunnyParty
I grew up on the free school meal program, and my own kid got free meals last year cuz of the pandemic. It's one of the few things left /
that the US still gets sorta right. Just wish it was free for ALL kids.
FelonyFerret
Speaking from experience, reduced cost or free school meals made you a target for bullies. "your parents are poor, hawhaw" then I feel bad.
freckledkink
Now they have lunch #s. Parents pay online. No one knows how meals are paid. Money for extras is usually the only cash used (or parents can
Pay that online as well). Extra drinks or sides at lunch. Snacks for break. It's pretty handy.
rollercostarican
I rather faeel bad than feel hungry
TacoPuncher
A good chunk of my elementary and then middle were on it, so they usually went after other things to bully for me
No idea why it's like that here. I always though cafeteria lunches was a television made up thing until imgur told me otherwise
dontbeabee
I've seen many posts on here from many other countries of their cafeteria meals. So maybe the lack of is a Canada thing.
Definitely. The only g7 nation without a school food program. It's largely a provincial thing but right down to the district to decide
Is that true about g7? Interesting.
Schokiba
Die not have these in germany. A few used the cafeteria for lunch but rarely. Everyone just braucht their Ford from home with them
Same.
Psymbionic
Would have guessed they would bring a Volkswagen from home, not a Ford.
Food not ford
DelCorazon
Agree that this should be provided through taxes, but $140/mo for Br. and lunch? Someone’s making a profit!!
Aaronb1138
Stop offering daily menu choices and costs will massively plummet. This is what the Nordic countries have done and their costs are <$2/meal.
RummageSaleBubbler
Mitch McConnel can't sleep until all poor children are thoroughly punished for being born poor.
SithShodan
A friend of mine worked for his office, said he was a massive asshole in person and quote "i can't accurately convey how bad his breath is"
amb1021
Arkansas has zero Democrats in Congress. Even Mississippi has one Dem House member. Perhaps Arkansans should wake up.
jj86
I am for it. My parents were too poor to get school lunch but mom still made sandwiches and put an apple in my bag lunch.
ElbowDeepInAllTheThings
My school is still doing free breakfast and lunch for all our students. Those are the only meals that many of my students get.
MOSIA
There is no reason not to feed every child in every school and not charge their families one cent. The only stance against is cruel greed.
NotThatPrivate
California just passed free lunch for K - 12...
JackOfA11
Socialist California has free lunch for all students. Those bastards are feeding hungry children from the wealth of tax money they collect.
OMFGWhatHaveWeDONE
Trivia: 1-in-8 Americans live in that state. Its GDP is the highest in the US and ranked 5th in the world
erminio
But the food isn't very good.
GaySocialistLiberalMuslimCommieAtheist
Nope. But perfection is not the enemy of progress.
LumosMx
Breakfast too!
mirrorada
yep, free breakfast and lunch for all kids k-12 as of this year!
SwayzeS
Thank you, Californians, for providing nutritious food for young children, during their formative years. You're building up future citizens.
sowasvonsowas
Free lunches have been eliminated in our school district. Some parents have created a fund for paying lunch debts of 1/2
sowasvonsowas
kids whose parents can't afford it. No kid is denied a lunch, but a tab is started for each one & it must be paid by year's end. 2/2
harpti
I really don’t understand what my taxes are being used for…
downsouthfarm
Blowing up Ukraine
GeForcen
Making new stuff to kill brown people.
georgedragonslayer
It is being used to prop up severely mis-managed corporations. Oh sorry. Not mis-managed. They are stealing from you.
Corvidqueen
Not infrastructure for sure. I nearly lost my car in a pothole this morning.
fraxinusoleaceae
For federal, this think tank compiles reasonable data since the federal gov't stopped compiling in 2014 https://www.nationalpriorities.org/
fraxinusoleaceae
Some school lunch is fed https://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/food-nutrition-assistance/child-nutrition-programs/national-school-lunch-program/
fraxinusoleaceae
But much of this is state level, which is quite hard to pin down funding for (some state tax, some fed grant, etc).
JackOfA11
Keeping women subjected to bearing children.
superhans1988
Nailed it
chockodragon
I grew up in a poor household in Australia. The government never gave lunch. I was healthy and thin.
wantednokes
In Ontario, we just bring a lunch...
Ekaris9
You can afford lunches in Ontario? Must be nice.
lAmGnomeAnn
In S Korea all the students were fed at the school- no one brought lunch from home. They helped serve each other and everyone ate the same 1
lAmGnomeAnn
thing. Then they'd help clean up! I love the equalizing nature of this practice, and that every child gets fed. USA, we can do much better.
cosinewave
One of the political parties enjoys punishing poor people for being poor while claiming they want to put God back into government. Go figure
Iblamemyparentstoo
God back into schools.....
amb1021
Which is what Arkansans vote for/don't bother voting at all. Repeatedly. Seems they don't mind their kids going hungry.
basiccricket8444
Remember when we halved child poverty then gave up on it?
johnvictor
This is also a little veiled attempt at racism in this country perpetuating given the majority of those affected are minorities, immigrants.
putcleverusernamehere
I think it's simpler than that - they want all the cookies, and they've convinced the cult that those without cookies are just lazy
tiderfish
Their vengeful brand of god
Cargobiker530
That's the same "God" that supposedly killed everybody but one super incestuous family in a flood for spite.
sarabear
BuT tHaT wAs OlD tEsTaMeNt GoD, before his son allowed himself to be gruesomely murdered, which supposedly calmed him down? so fucked up…
Canofminus
The same god who has a real boner for killing babies. Floods, plagues, just smiting 1st born sons, “holy” wars, etc.
Illithidbane
1 Samuel 15:3, Exodus 12:29-30, Isaiah 13:15-16, Jeremiah 19:7-9
neonsnake
samwyze
You say death, but fanatics say "Returning to God" so it's a good thing. They want it. It's the whole reason for living.
DraconianMarshmallowPoink
To be clear, they only use religion to convince the poor to keep voting for their own poverty.
RedWingedBlackbirds
Please everyone vote out all Rs everywhere - local, state, all elections - especially in the midterms. https://www.nass.org/can-I-vote
itsthevoiceman
Because there's "Always A Bigger Fish": https://youtu.be/agzNANfNlTs
AccountCreatedToUpvoteDogs
"I'm Christian!" *points to vengeful Old Testament for all their excuses*
caledric
You mean the Torah?
AccountCreatedToUpvoteDogs
Maybe? I have never looked into if the Torah is equivalent to the old testament or if the OT is a subset of the Torah
caledric
I think the OT is a subset of the Torah, The Quran is also heavily based off the OT as well. All the things the Evangelicals hate about
caledric
those two religions is what they preach their basis of the "Christian" religion on. All they care about is labels though.
FlyingButtPliers
Desperate people turn to god as a last resort for the little bit of hope or provides.
W0lfsbl00d
They're trying to slowly kill aspects of government that don't benefit their plans to turn control over to pvt corporations and the church.
W0lfsbl00d
And killing social programs and making people poorer and desperate, they want them to the church for support. And be low wage slave labor.
W0lfsbl00d
*Them to turn to the church
dumidiot
Is this an American thing? Sure my school had a cafeteria, but it was the norm that you just had lunch from home.
Jawesome19
Let's get it together people what the fuck
ChristinaRnne
Wealthiest country in the World is a joke... Cant even feed the population
SpendifferousLeo
Hey in California we have free lunch for kids. Where are all the lecherous trumpets calling us mismanaged now?
Rookvlees
Gay here. Don’t have, want, or like (most) kids. But holy fuck as a society, we must care for them. 100% ok w my taxes feeding others’ kids.
N0S4A2
that being said, some could definitely work on their pullout game
Ultratoxic
I'm just a millennial curmudgeon who's opted not to reproduce, but even I agree kids deserve to be fed.
sehven
Cishet and childless (and intend to stay that way) and I demand my taxes feed others' kids.
johnvictor
Only complete monsters would vote against taking care of children in this day and age.
Fynndango
I'm with The Gay.
superhans1988
Hi gay
MerkinSuit
Ah, a fellow human, I like human orientated people. Opposite is self harm really, humans against humans doesn't make sense.
Sasurau
As a working American who neither has, nor wants, kids, I wholeheartedly support education, school meals, and many other such programs be-
Sasurau
cause, even from a selfish cunt of a view, having an educated population means I have to work with less absolute fuckwits as coworkers. And
Sasurau
you know, I'm not a fucking sociopath and don't think kids should go hungry.
cashea
My parent friends bitch about taxes. I remind them that I am ok paying for their kids to go to school. May I have their tax break now?
FuckingTurtleBear
likely a stupid question, and sorry if so, but are Americans not allowed to bring lunch from home? (those that can I mean)
sehven
I'll admit I find the school lunch issue odd since that's what I did. But my wife worked at a school and I heard how bad some of those (1/2)
sehven
kids had it. If taxpayer provided lunches can ease that burden at all, then I say do it. (2/2)
EatsBees
they can, but buying food to take to school is an added cost for many families that are already struggling
Ekaris9
"Those that can".
reallynotmikepence
No, they are.
FuckingTurtleBear
ah, rightio. cheers
RummageSaleBubbler
Math -- about $3.5 / meal -- ($140/month) / (5 days/week * 4 weeks/month * 2 meals/day) => $3.5/meal -- assuming no holidays/skipped meals.
Einbrecher
Must be shopping at Whole Foods or something.
GodofBacon
To be fair...(letterkennyreferencehere) $3.5 per meal is par for the course after inflation.
troyandabedpostoniiiiimgur
It costs me £1.30 a day for lunch, probably about 50p for breakfast. And I don't buy in bulk.
RummageSaleBubbler
What types of things are you eating?
troyandabedpostoniiiiimgur
Usually make a chicken tuna or egg sub sandwich for lunch. Toast and crumpets for breakfast. Fruit/veg/nuts on the side.
RummageSaleBubbler
Great sounding lunch. I would expect in bulk schools can save further on this. I wonder if their costs include labor, tables, cleaning, ...?
troyandabedpostoniiiiimgur
They must be including costs like that, but I bet they're also including it in thei budgets and doubling up by passing it on to parents too.
Jthechef
I don’t get this, surely the parents need to feed their kids. You shouldn’t have them if you can’t even feed them.
garbag3mancan
Ideally, sure. But nature didn't program sexual impulse to work with rational thought. Personally, I'm sympathetic to "it takes a village"
JoJoSapiens
In the ideal world, yes, but in reality some parents will always fall short. It's not fair to starve the blameless child in that case.
Einbrecher
While true, the world would be a much better place if that's how it actually played out in reality.
randomguy365
"Those kids wouldn't be hungry if we got rid of child labor laws and let them earn a living instead of going to school." -Conservatives
CobainsSarcoma
... immediately before grabbing a bottle of jergens and unzipping their pants yes, they actually get off on others' suffering
MisterRichard
Not satire. This is a real position held by many real conservatives.
cadesama
Gingrich literally argued for repealing child labor laws.
Tigersterne
Libertarian roommate of mine opposed school lunches because it's better for kids to be hungry than learn dependence. I don't talk to him now
chammey
They probably missed one meal in their lifetime and then felt like a wilderness survival expert. Starvation diet might fix that attitude.
Tigersterne
Eh, he was just one of those extremists who think literally nothing good can come from government
GodofBacon
You joke but dozens of teens were found to be working beating minor restrictions in Alabama
randomguy365
This was not a joke.
GodofBacon
He 100% made a joke. You may not feel as though the topic is up for a joking manner, but he definitely joked there. Practice reading more.
randomguy365
He is Me oh Bacon God. Maybe you need to practice your omnipotence.
GodofBacon
Or continue to practice reading. If you still can't tell when someone's joking.
Mortalnick
Sorry, grew up with meals needing to be bought or packed. It's the parents responsibility to provide for their kid.
reallynotmikepence
Most countries don't provide free lunch. France, Italy, Canada. Some countries don't even have kitchens. It's all bring from home.
Fishkeeper
Well, they should have free lunch, given how many kids it helps.
Einbrecher
Don't need to worry about helping kids with free lunch if your country isn't a shithole.
Fishkeeper
Fair, but saving parents some trouble is still a good thing. And surely they don't have 0 poverty at all.
tsuelue
Well, there is poverty and then there is american poverty. And that one is of course bigger, better, and much worse.
UncleMeaty
No, they shouldn't. Because it's something that shouldn't be needed. It's a band-aid solution to a much larger problem.
sehven
Given that there doesn't seem to be much hope of solving the larger problem anytime soon, I'll take the band-aid, please.
Fishkeeper
Even if every kid in the country has enough food, won't hurt to save the parents some trouble packing a lunch.
UncleMeaty
By that logic, why don't we just have schools do everything for parents?
Fishkeeper
Part of the goal of a school is to take a lot of burden off of parents, isn't it? With the other part mostly being learning from experts.
temporarilyhuman
Kids and parents MUST be supported 100%. But I have 5 poverty-level siblings who won't stop having kids, and it's a huge part of the problem
Wyrdbunny
Maybe for the next birthday or baby shower buy them a Costco size crate of condoms?
waitwuh
Why do you think they keep having kids? Besides education, I can’t think of any other way to mitigate too many mouths to feed.
temporarilyhuman
I love them but: peer pressure (surrounded by families); lack of prospects; and all the love/support when pregnant. It's addictive.
glibbo
Controversial point here but, when did it ever become someone else's problem to raise your kids ?
riderofthepurplesage
That's the problem with 7.5 Billion people. Other peoples kids are your problem.
Causeitsmadeofmeat
Is it not everyone's problem to educate your kids? Maybe society benefits from an educated populace? no food=poor education for the poor
PrincessWasabi
The cost of transportation has increased exponentially which is passed on to the increased cost of food. I think we can also all acknowledge
PrincessWasabi
Housing has increased. Everything is way more expensive ! More and more people are unable to keep up with these rising costs since wages
PrincessWasabi
Have stagnated, or do not account for inflation. Times are tough! Nobody should starve when we generate 150k tons of food waste daily in USA
WedsBunneh
I am in California and I don't have kids. AND I am so happy my taxes go to feeding kids a free lunch and breakfast.
duckaroosky
Californian and no kids. But I grew up poor and know what food insecurity feels like. So happy that my taxes are going towards helping(1/2)
WedsBunneh
Me too! I was so glad when it was announced!
duckaroosky
kids so they never experience what I did. (2/2)
WedsBunneh
I mean I love ramen. I do. But there were days when it was rice and SPAM for like forever.
zerogiven
Also Californian, and also no kids. So what? It's in *all* our best interests for the next generation to be raised and educated well.
WedsBunneh
That's what I was saying. California just assured free lunch and breakfasts for kids. And I'm onboard with that.
WedsBunneh
Perhaps you read that as sarcasm? When I assure you, it is not. I AM happy it is being done.
zerogiven
Ah, then I apologize. I totally *did* read it as sarcasm; Poe's Law and all that. Sorry for misunderstanding your point!
WedsBunneh
Totally okay! I can see how it could be taken that way! And yes, we all need to help others up. It's our societal duty and a pleasure!
thevortexmaster
In Canada School provided lunch free or paid is quite rare here. It's all on the parents to provide poor or not.
EmeraldLight
I've never known a Canadian school to have free food... maybe because I'm in northern BC and everything is stupid
thevortexmaster
I've never known any school to have free or for sake other than the odd hot lunch Friday or something like th hat
lordfancypantz
In Denmark it's usually the parents to provide the lunch. However 'murica, being an industrialized 3rd world country, they could need it.
Outofposition
In the UK school meals are free for everyone for the first three years. After that it's means tested, so free if you can't afford it.
GrimFinn
In Finland school lunch is free up to high school. University students get a discounted lunch at campus restaurants, price is sth like 2,70€
Jizanthepus
In BC in the 90s there was a free lunch in school but it wasn't amazing so we would use it when we forgot to bring one
thevortexmaster
Not in any of the 6 schools I went to in BC.
Jizanthepus
Ooh were we classmates? Georges Vanier 1989-95, frank hurt 2001-2, Christian schools in between
thevortexmaster
Hahah nope. A school in Fort nelson and 5 different schools in a tiny town called Powell River
Lugh314159
Absolutely true, but a little misleading. Canada doesn’t have free lunch programs, but the have much more robust social safety nets.
thevortexmaster
We do have a good social safety netting
SoniqueTui
But parents here get CTTB, especially if poor, and that can help quite a bit. It's not perfect, but it's something.
thevortexmaster
I'm not sure what that is. Child benefit payments?
SoniqueTui
Yes. You can make ~700 a month if yer super poor to help with feeding/clothing your kid. And some schools have free breakfast.
thevortexmaster
Ahhh, that has to be provincial. I went to 6 different schools in BC. Not one had any food. My wife is a teacher and no schools in her>>>>
thevortexmaster
District have food and neither does my kids school. We get $160 a month for our 6 year old. Were not under the poverty line though
xsnlx
Yes, and the massive savings that Canadians enjoy by having national healthcare. In the U.S. it costs more than 2X as much per capita.
bakerguy1337
https://www.reddit.com/r/vancouver/comments/wtbxml/multiple_ambulances_unstaffed_today_please_be/
thisismycatsaccount
Yeah, this always confuses me. Is this an American thing? I never had breakfast at school free or not and cafeteria lunch was a ‘luxury’.
excableguy
During Covid, the federal government payed for meals for all school kids. Republicans opposed renewing funding to continue it so it stopped
SonrisaFlores
It's a Californian thing now. ;)
FlyingButtPliers
Schools in USA have generally always offered cafeteria food. Free for low income families. Sometimes it's their best meal.
LocalPumpkinHero
Sometimes it's their only meal, and their parents struggle to feed them in summer.
LateNightBunnyParty
I grew up on the free school meal program, and my own kid got free meals last year cuz of the pandemic. It's one of the few things left /
LateNightBunnyParty
that the US still gets sorta right. Just wish it was free for ALL kids.
FelonyFerret
Speaking from experience, reduced cost or free school meals made you a target for bullies. "your parents are poor, hawhaw" then I feel bad.
freckledkink
Now they have lunch #s. Parents pay online. No one knows how meals are paid. Money for extras is usually the only cash used (or parents can
freckledkink
Pay that online as well). Extra drinks or sides at lunch. Snacks for break. It's pretty handy.
rollercostarican
I rather faeel bad than feel hungry
TacoPuncher
A good chunk of my elementary and then middle were on it, so they usually went after other things to bully for me
thevortexmaster
No idea why it's like that here. I always though cafeteria lunches was a television made up thing until imgur told me otherwise
dontbeabee
I've seen many posts on here from many other countries of their cafeteria meals. So maybe the lack of is a Canada thing.
thevortexmaster
Definitely. The only g7 nation without a school food program. It's largely a provincial thing but right down to the district to decide
thisismycatsaccount
Is that true about g7? Interesting.
Schokiba
Die not have these in germany. A few used the cafeteria for lunch but rarely. Everyone just braucht their Ford from home with them
thisismycatsaccount
Same.
Psymbionic
Would have guessed they would bring a Volkswagen from home, not a Ford.
Schokiba
Food not ford