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This was awesome. We split after we graduated - we were accepted to different colleges and haven't seen each other since. We wrote to each other at first, but then it kinda stopped and I assumed we both "moved on" and was glad for a memory, even though the friendship didn't last.
I was pleasantly surprised by the message and of course agreed instantly.
The meeting was a bit awkward. There was something off about the friend (lets call him V.), we didn't talk much. After a long silence, he drops this bomb. I was completely stunned. He told me that his parents got him locked up without a reason and now they make him take some meds which he flushes down the toilet.
After that, it was one bomb after another. V. told me that he hated his parents for being through that hell and that sometimes, when his father slept on the couch, he was seriously thinking about killing him. I told him that he definitely shouldn't do that.
"Yea, you're right, they would only lock me up again... you're the only one who cares. You're my best friend, you're like my brother. Remember? We were like brothers back then... we should join the army. The army is all about the brotherhood, everyone has each others back. I think we really belong there."
What. The. Bananapeeling. Fuck.
I tried to tell V. that I thought it was not a good idea. Was immediately silenced by MOTIVATIONAL QUOTES FROM FACEBOOK I SHIT YOU NOT HE SHOWED ME HIS PHONE WAS FULL OF THEM.
Obviously, according to him, it doesn't matter that you are not physically strong enough or have exactly zero sense of obedience to an authority. Also, all soldiers are apparently friends, no matter the rank, and there are no shitheads in the army.
The awkward conversation went for about two hours, I kinda hoped V. was trolling me, but that was obviously not the case. So I decided to back off and think about how the things worked out, because holiest of the shits.
And then... this. I told him that I had some work to do, he begged me and tried to persuade me. I managed to decline and started to walk away.
I mumbled some excuse and got the frick out of there. I have no idea what to do now, I asked around and was told that V. saw "things", talked about alien invasion from Venus and started getting aggressive, that's why he was in the hospital... and I have no idea whom to trust now, his parents weren't exactly saints, that's for sure.
I wouldn't mind him being mentally ill, but he's completely different person than a few years ago. And yes, I know I am a scumbag for not supporting him, but I honestly have no clue how, when he's pissed every time I don't agree with him.
tl;dr: Read the memes, I guess?
Cat & her fluffy jellybeans tax:
Eh... send... encouragement? I will settle this with V. tomorrow, probably... also, have drink on us. God knows we both need it.
PuttingTheSensualBackInNonconsensual
Was in the army. Am shithead.
Notaflyyingtoy
Follow up please
candiedhotdogs
Twirlynbh
Make sure you report the homicidal thoughts in some way. Don't want it on your conscience if he does anything.
aliengamer76
Don't best youself up. Your subconscious is clearly saying that you can't handle this. That's the fleeing instinct. Fact: People change.
QuestionableLifeChoices
Anyone who is swayed from murder by not wanting to go back to a mental hospital is outside your realm of expertise.
MetaSomma
This is, sadly, quite accurate
cryborg
I hope you are OK and your friend is too!
corig123
maybe let the parents know he's not taking his meds?
byohzzrd
Contact his parents, he needs help and is dodging his meds. We see too much of the effects of people not helping those with mental issues!
Scarman64
No matter what you do or how you feel about the situation. It's not in your control. Do what's best for you. Listening is all you can offer.
GabrielFlood
High functioning autistic here; you're no scumbag, neighbor. It's MY job to control my shit, be sane, and never allow my condition (1/2)
GabrielFlood
to become anyone else's problem. This poor guy was out of control, and nothing good was going to come of tangling up in it. (2/2)
Whopraysforthedevil
Joining the army to run from your problems doesn't work. Your problems just wait for you. Source: Joined the army to run from my problems .
jmrex
Well, at least he didn't ask you to join a mult-level marketing program.
Turtleproof
People like the DeVoses are crazy and do more harm to people than our schizophrenic friends will ever do.
ImNotCreativeEnoughForAGoodUsername
I mean, there's being a scumbag and there's going "He literally said he wants to murder people". You get a pass on this one, easily
PuddingBuks
You CAN support him but it's a massive commitment full of disappointment. If you have any plans for the next 5 years, you need to gtfo
PuddingBuks
If you are up to it though, mentally ill people need a rock, someone who is completely honest with them too, basically a handle in reality
PuddingBuks
But like other people say, it's a huge commitment and you don't owe him anything by the sound of it. I had to let a friend go for the same
PuddingBuks
Reasons, and then my wife kinda lost it (she is fine now) so if you need some advice then drop this random imgurer a PM
justwatching
Tell him to join Imgur. He'll waste his time here instead of causing trouble elsewhere.
ohaiwirefly
If you do this, do not give him your username.
DataBender
Finally a solution!
UserSubUserName
Almost as good as a final solution!
DisBean
He'll have better content to share than Facebook quotes.
CChowder
doomsdayaddams
You need to tell his parents about the murderous thoughts, or, if they're abusive (can't tell from post), the local mental health 1/2
DisBean
He still sounds sick and like he needs support. It's not your job to be his support, but I hope you told someone that can help about his
DisBean
Dangerous thoughts to harm someone.
doomsdayaddams
organization or police. You do NOT need to feel guilty or take on his problems--this is way beyond what a friend can handle!
eggslynette
Don't feel bad, I once knew a perfectly normal guy and then he took too many hits of acid and turned into what your explaining. I RAN.
ZacharyZheng
It does that?!
eggslynette
He took A LOT in a short amount of time. So it fucked him up good.
notme222
He needs to be on his meds, but this isn't your problem. I don't blame you, but if you want to do a good deed mention this to his parents.
cree8ively
you're not being a bad person! its okay to get uncomfortable
WeAllLiveInAUserSubmarine
@OP this is no real help, but I had a friend like this, and I backed away and haven't spoken to her in 9 years... and I still regret it :-(
iusedtobeaspyuntil
We are going to need more pictures of those kitties....
Virunuss
Let someone in his life know he's dodging meds, beyond that, let it go. People change. Sometimes from an illness, like this, sometimes >>>
Virunuss
>>> Just in general. I lost a very close friend of a decade halfway through highschool. No fights or anything, just seemed like his >>>
Virunuss
>>> Interests completely flipped, then he ended up getting his GED a year early and jumping into the Navy. NEVER would have thought.
NegentropyX
You are not equipped with the skills to deal with this person. Don't guilt yourself.
Alloitsme3
My friend recently got schizophrenia, he is completely different person and tried helping him but it just created more chaos...(1)
Alloitsme3
(2)he was convinced we were trying to murder him and he got violent and now he's "better" but now he's boinking hookers and worshipin aliens
cliffreich
"boinking hookers and worshipin aliens" isn't that how several people live their lives if you switch aliens with alien jesus?
Alloitsme3
He thinks he is also god now and he has become a huge asshole towards everyone that tried helping him. He's stable enough to "survive" now..
Alloitsme3
But he's not the same person.
Alloitsme3
He has ceased contact with me and anyone who helped him, so there isn't anything more we can do.
Turtleproof
Worshiping aliens is pretty rad, though.
sweetfeetpete
Sounds like schizophrenia. Often the onset occurs in the late teens/early 20's, so might not have shown symptoms at all in high school
randomdrifter54
Also it's hard for the ones affected to notice a problem. So he wouldn't understand why he has to take his meds, etc.
0xDEADDEADdotNET
I think if I was in @op shoes, I would try to relay all this to the father. Seems he has an idea on how to handle this situation.
brosettastoned
Knew a kid like this in college. Sounds like your friend is crying out for help and a bit delusionsal.. He's gonna try to kill himself w/o >
brosettastoned
help, Mark my words if he goes off his meds he will hurt himself or some1 else. I've seen it happen. If u have to commit him do it yourself>
brosettastoned
If he does not accept the fact he must take his meds. He will thank you later for it on the other end if he makes it.
MetaSomma
totallyrealname
Could also be some hella bipolar.
disemboweled
Nope nope nope
SeizuresSuck
Dad was schitzotypical bipolar. Appears very similar to schizophrenia.
disemboweled
The point is that you can't diagnose someone over the internet, even if you were a psychiatrist. Duh.
SeizuresSuck
Oh yeah how could of missed it, "Nope nope nope" gives a whole lot of context.
yzrocketman
Dude needs his meds.
ZacharyZheng
Doesn't always work. It's a little more complicated than that
thevortexmaster
1) I found a long lost friend girl I knew after 15 years. We were pretty much in love. We met up and almost slept together. Me being happily
thevortexmaster
2) married made me have to break all contact with her. I miss her but not enough to cheat on the woman I truly love
hineyruler
Damn... did your wife know y'all met up? Sheesh
thevortexmaster
1) Yup, we had a long conversation about it. I don't keep anything from her. We didn't fool around but ended up sleeping in the same bed. I
thevortexmaster
2) knew if I rolled over it would have happened.
ImDyslexicSoWhat
School friend of mine moved from ireland to oz before the end of school, came back 3 years later, total dickhead, wants to catch up now 1/2
ImDyslexicSoWhat
2/2 no thanks
doomsdayaddams
Your friend moved to...OZ?!?!
ZacharyZheng
Australia
doomsdayaddams
Thank you. Though I was intrigued.
RawSuger
you have no obligation to support him even emotionally. if hes so broken he's a danger (he is) best to move on
ThePufferfishiest
The problem is, if I turn my back on him like everyone else, he will not get any better...
fakesugar
It's not your job to make him better. I had a friend exactly like that who I cut all ties with.
BitumenBIte
That's not necessary true. Mental illness can be a lot like addiction. He might need to hit some sort of bottom before he accepts help.
wwny
You can't fix a problem like that; you don't have the tools for it. Don't beat yourself up over it.
Thesaya
Will he listen if you tell him to get help? Because that is all you can do. If he trusts you when you say you worry there is a chance.
doomsdayaddams
It is not in your power to fix him; notify the authorities or his parents, but don't feel like you have to take this on. Please.
illegalacorn
Don't light yourself on fire to make someone else warm.
SunnySarah20
THIS. I'm a teacher working at a residential treatment school for kids with serious mental health issues; it's so crucial to stay centered.
F1L0Y1
This is a great way to say it.
RawSuger
he likely wont anyway, not at the moment....it's a huge project supporting someone like that, and he's indicating he'll be high maintenance
ThePufferfishiest
Shit. I have zero experience with this, but suggesting the professional help won't work here...
thelastchipinthepacket
Repeat to yourself "I am not his doctor, i am not able to help that way" you can support from a distance, but protect yourself from him 1/?
thelastchipinthepacket
People who need help often have to realise it themselves (think addiction). Problem is when its mental health, and they are incapable 2/?
RawSuger
nah. you keep your distance meet up sometimes but if he wont let you do that and makes crazy suggestions...some ppl cant be saved...