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ALLCAPSROCK
FUCK RAND!
bullshirtdetectorinspector
Sounds like a recent story about ebay. There are way too many "rules don't apply to us" type guys out there. The gift that keeps on giving from Trump.
DrSchlepenstein
Champion Properties did the same shit in Ohio. They bought the complex I was in for 11 years, renovicted everyone then raised rents from $900 to $1400 in 2022, I looked recently and its now $1600 a month.
TheGhostofElizabethShue
It’s like an email you’d find after hacking an office computer in Deus Ex.
DeniablePlausability
We never asked for this.
wowzilla1
Yep WBIR run by republicans
dogboybastard
fateeverywhere
Have you ever smelled burnt human meat? I used to be a paramedic. It's the one smell that sometimes keeps me awake at night. Shoot them. It's faster, cleaner, and easier.
BryanTenn
Jake (CEO of Rand) owns $220,000,000 AUM and literally writes books and does a podcast to teach people how to do that same and has currently gone private on Instagram.
BryanTenn
Still shows up in a site search but it's 404'd. I am local and this really disappoints me. Free P:ress needs to be free of corporate meddling.
BryanTenn
Google still has is cached. https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:U_blDLSAPPwJ:https://www.wbir.com/article/news/community/tanglewood-apartments-rent-spike-rand-property-management/51-3316728e-1156-4c74-b9ec-f6e7b6936be4&cd=10&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
ComicUpgrade
That's my town! I just went to a city council meeting about this on thursday. The people want blood.
anthrdrunkenwannabepoet
I must disagree that all landlords are parasites. individuals who have have rental properties have a tendency to try to be amenable and work with tenants. this obviously does not apply to everyone, however most corporate landlords tend to be a**holes , while a mom amd pop property usually work with their tenents
paulwall117350
Bullshit. Even the nicest little old lady who only rents out one house and never raised the price and only charged enough to pay off the mortgage, is still having someone else pay for her investments for her, from which she will continue to profit. She's a parasite. "This leech is a good leech because they only took just enough blood to survive and didn't try to do what most leeches do and take more than they really need" - Bitch, no, you're still a leech. Even the best leech is still a leech.
nubblebun
When do we rise up and kill our oppressors again? Cuz I'm kind of feeling a little itchy these days. A little trigger happy. A little guillotiney.
EleganceIsDead
mmmpopfanatic
Lived in a 1 bedroom in a family-owned complex at $800 a month for 5 years. End of 2021 the building got sold and new company raised it to $1250. Then end of 2022 I got a call saying they 'couldn't afford to keep me at the current rate' and were going to raise it again to $1550 (so almost double from a year ago). Oh and the best part: they verbally told me I'd have 3 months to find a new place, only to find a 30 day notice in my mailbox the following week. Fuck you Premier Properties.
undercoverles
Oh fuck, is that the Premier Properties of the SF Bay Area? If so they are MASSIVE assholes and the city of Berkeley has sued them multiple times for infractions.
mmmpopfanatic
Nah I'm on the other side of the country. But I guess that name is toxic everywhere.
BuckysGambit
Seriously when has anything with “Rand” in the name been a good thing? (E.G. Ayn Rand, Rand Corporation, Rand Paul, etc.)
dmayhemsw
I mean, Rand McNally had a pretty decent atlas. That's need a few years though.
BuckysGambit
True, it’s nice to think all Randy’s aren’t horrible.
lrateyourrig
Oh is that in Kentucky? The state that voted for both Turtle NeckCunt and Rand Paul fuckhead? Yeah fuck Kentucky, I hope rent goes up 1000x
OohDaLolly
So where can we find a copy of the article? Rand needs to learn about thr Streisand Effect.
DWolf
Two people have posted it above. Maybe it needs to be its own post?
alcaray
Should I know who Rand is? I feel like maybe I missed a news article or something.
FlatPlutoSociety
They're a property management company (like a big superlandlord business) in the Midsouth that has been cranking up rent prices lately to a degree that would be illegal in places that are less openly hostile to the poor.
Erulogos
Lots of companies/organizations take the name Rand, seemingly in honor of Ayn Rand. Given that connection, it's safe to assume all such entities are morally void and worthy of contempt until they prove themselves otherwise.
wozat
Non-deleted article: https://www.wvlt.tv/2023/07/31/north-knoxville-tenants-angry-after-landlord-doubles-rent-some-face-homelessness/?outputType=amp
Iambadatnames1938
The article is still up: https://www.wbir.com/article/money/economy/community-members-speak-about-rent-at-city-council-meeting/51-16c5e1ff-65da-427f-920a-a634280b1ff9
IDownVoteJerks
Sounds like they’ve learn they can bleed people dry then get more money from the government’s emergency relief program for people who can’t afford payments.
Iambadatnames1938
It's still up, they did take out a video though
Iambadatnames1938
https://www.wbir.com/article/money/economy/community-members-speak-about-rent-at-city-council-meeting/51-16c5e1ff-65da-427f-920a-a634280b1ff9
TheRealNomNom
Anonymous?? Oh, Elry09.. we’re coming for you
ImPanickingButNotAtTheDisco
Are these people born without a moral compass, or do they just lose it along the way wandering off into their state of pure evil?
flistdumpnumberonemillion
who gives a shit it doesn't matter either way the correct thing you should be doing is a communism so just do that
DeniablePlausability
Their compass does not orient them towards morality. That is terra incognita for them. Their compass only points them towards earnings.
Silver420Surfer
Maybe they're born with it. Maybe it's Maybelline.
diesel01
I think they justify sacrificing integrity for expediency as necessary to maintain power. The number of GOP politicians that appeared to have some integrity until it meant standing up to TFG was disheartening
DanielAsparagus
Dude I did a psych of religion class and the mind fuck wasn’t that religion makes you do this or that, its that it’s authoritarianism masquerading as faith all over the world. The number of people with a very flexible sense of morality isn’t just some of us, it’s most humans. Not you and not me- I’m a Boy Scout. But when others aren’t looking most people will take if it’s to their advantage.
stonebreaker6
Fuck you, Jennifer.
Iambadatnames1938
It's still up, they did take out a video though
DrewThe3DPrinterGuy
The701
"We were profitable last quarter, therefore it's impossible that we are bad people."
I0VE525P00GE
Someone needs to explain the meaning of the word “integrity” to these people.
DeniablePlausability
Bold of you to assume that they don't know what "integrity" means and that in the unlikely case that they didn't and someone took the trouble to explain the concept to them that they would care.
doctorId
Someone needs to burn down their offices. I'm sick of explaining.
barnwolf
No see integrity isn't some ideal, it's simply a label one group of humans applies to another. As long as people continue to think Rand Property has integrity, then they do. This is closely related to the chinese concept of face. /s
cjandstuff
Integrity to the stockholders. Everyone else doesn't matter, except that they can extract money from them.
Slashenaar
They all speak in the language of corporate america so 'integrity' is actually 'the appearance of integrity' because the whole premise of capitalism is anything for more profit so they can't actually do that AND have actual integrity, but the appearance of integrity sells so they speak corporate to people who don't. Commercials have their own language too
aloharamada
They use the original meaning. The word integrity evolved from the Latin adjective integer, meaning whole or complete. It is defined as 'an undivided or unbroken completeness', or 'a state of being complete or whole'. And they're clearly being complete assholes here.
DireRadiant
They know what it means. They just don't care.
KeepingRepostStatsBusy
Storming their office building is far more doable than the capitol. Where is the militia ?
The701
"Yes, integrity is profit and net worth. This is the only valid measure of a person's value."
RizzleMeThis
Not to be an English snob but the word people should also be in quotations as you are using that term in a figurative rather than literal manner.
georgedragonslayer
Integrity is, "I got mine, fuck you". /s
ProfessorDumbass
...and how having a hundred million dollar building full of angry people doesn't prevent fire
Filanwizard
Basically they probably threatened to not renew a big ad contract with the station.
unencumberedbythethoughtprocess
Why are they having a fall event? Oh yeah, everything on this site is a repost of a repost.
undercoverles
Boohoo everything is a repost. People have been whining and bitching about that since imgur began. Perhaps you might consider going outside now and again if you've already seen everything.
unencumberedbythethoughtprocess
Marry me
BrockEffingSamson
Article in question is from 8/8/23. You'll have to ask the evil corporation why they are having their fall event in late summer.
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AceBandito
You know how we, collectively, see scalpers for the scam artists they are? There's more property than displaced families in the US.
Bhargo
landlords are nothing more than parasites that create bloat and reduce housing availability
JoshuaFalken
Eh...not everyone wants to own a home. It's a pain in the ass. There is benefit to having someome else take care of maintenance and incur those costs. That said, we certainly need greater rent controls and regulation around housing.
kraeftig
One would think, except they raise the rate every year and will not fix anything unless it is immediately hazardous to the building.
kraeftig
(not even stuff they're legally required to fix, like how I had a broken shower for an entire year b/c they refused to fix it)
JoshuaFalken
This the need for greater regulation and rent controls.
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OldnFatBobba
Can you, peasant, afford to buy a house when competing against corporate landlords? No...
Fedotia
They buy whole buildings and gouge up the prices of our vital needs, gotcha.
DanielAsparagus
Yes that’s how it’s supposed to work.
firesnake
Unclear which side you're on here... If you can't get a loan and buy your first house at 25 on a minimum wage job (like you could 30 years ago), then we've lost social mobility and that's terrible. Landlords don't need to exist, except for high population density areas.
DanielAsparagus
The system works as intended. Same people who are upset we ended feudalism. I’m not against owning or renting property. I’m against creating an entire class of humans that will never be able to own their homes and control their destiny.
bunnyrut
If they don't own and run an apartment complex while also maintaining it then they do not need to exist. People who own and rent out HOUSES are leeching off of society. They offer nothing. They have only taken a home away from someone else to price gouge.
bunnyrut
sorry, that should have gone to the person above you
DanielAsparagus
Disagree. You want to own multiple homes? Fine. Let’s say 5-10 is the limit. Can we agree those are batshit crazy numbers? My problem is when private equity firms get into the rental game. If you don’t know your landlord that’s well and truly fucked up.
LousiaTheCrunchCrunch
Buy your own and maintain it.
LousiaTheCrunchCrunch
You can buy a duplex with 3.5% down. Buy a shitty one, live in half while you fix it yourself, rent the other side. Once you fixed the side you’re in move to the other side and repeat. I did that. I even used a 203k rehab loan to fund the renovations. I own 3 of them by doing that,a condo and a single family home for the fam and I. I started at 27 and am 37 now. I didn’t know anything before starting and nobody helped me finically along the. I’m in MPLS, mn. Ask questions if you want.
LousiaTheCrunchCrunch
You can buy a duplex with 3.5% down. Buy a shitty one, live in half while you fix it yourself, rent the other side. Once you fixed the side you’re in move to the other side and repeat. I did that. I even used a 203k rehab loan to fund the renovations. I own 3 of them by doing that,a condo and a single family home for the fam and I. I started at 27 and am 37 now. I didn’t know anything before starting and nobody helped me finically along the. I’m in MPLS, mn. Ask questions if you want.
LousiaTheCrunchCrunch
You can buy a duplex with 3.5% down. Buy a shitty one, live in half while you fix it yourself, rent the other side. Once you fixed the side you’re in move to the other side and repeat. I did that. I even used a 203k rehab loan to fund the renovations. I own 3 of them by doing that,a condo and a single family home for the fam and I. I started at 27 and am 37 now. I didn’t know anything before starting and nobody helped me finically along the. I’m in MPLS, mn. Ask questions if you want.
LousiaTheCrunchCrunch
You can buy a duplex with 3.5% down. Buy a shitty one, live in half while you fix it yourself, rent the other side. Once you fixed the side you’re in move to the other side and repeat. I did that. I even used a 203k rehab loan to fund the renovations. I own 3 of them by doing that,a condo and a single family home for the fam and I. I started at 27 and am 37 now. I didn’t know anything before starting and nobody helped me finically along the. I’m in MPLS, mn. Ask questions if you want.
LousiaTheCrunchCrunch
You can buy a duplex with 3.5% down. Buy a shitty one, live in half while you fix it yourself, rent the other side. Once you fixed the side you’re in move to the other side and repeat. I did that. I even used a 203k rehab loan to fund the renovations. I own 3 of them by doing that,a condo and a single family home for the fam and I. I started at 27 and am 37 now. I didn’t know anything before starting and nobody helped me finically along the. I’m in MPLS, mn. Ask questions if you want.
rdmage11
Stop being poor is quite the take.
NotABadLookingNarcissist
Suck a dick and choke on it ;)
LousiaTheCrunchCrunch
Just like your mom last night?
NotABadLookingNarcissist
Probably. She’s a slut.
paulwall117350
I'd love to, if landlords hadn't already bought it all and used it as an investment, driving prices to the point where only the investor class can afford it, because the price doesn't really matter to them, what matters is the rate of return, which in turn drives the rent up, which in turn drives prices up, then the cycle repeats. Investments only go up. If they go down, they're no longer investments, they're liabilities. So when housing is an investment, it will naturally become unaffordable.
LousiaTheCrunchCrunch
Join the game. It’s not about what you owe it’s about what you make. If I told you I’ll sell you a duplex for $400k with a 10% interest rate you’d probably say,”no way!”. I would say hell yeah. Because even with paying 10% interest and expenses I would clear $30k a year renting it. Who cares about the debt, it doesn’t matter. Without taking that debt you’d make $0.
paulwall117350
Having other people pay off your properties for you makes you a filthy parasite. I understand you don't care and you don't see a moral problem with it, but people like you are the reason why property is so expensive to begin with. I refuse to join the game when the game has been demonstrated to be absolutely evil and to function on the exploitation of basic human needs. Right now, property is only as expensive as it is because as you say, investors price it based on return, not on the real value
LousiaTheCrunchCrunch
You can be nice and keep rents below market like I do. My tenants stay on average 4 years. Be good to people and you can all enjoy life.
SanshinDojo
All landlords are parasites.
jet100a
You can have things at a lower price and once your finished give it back for a price lower than buying. Plus renting allows those to move around a lot without worrying about selling a home. Having unreasonable prices is an issue for sure and there should be regulations in place but you shouldn't be dogmatic in your beliefs. Saying stuff like that only pushes those away who would otherwise support your cause.
lovejoyrat1
I always wanted to be a landlord like my aunt and uncle who worked very hard to keep their property (a small 8 unit building) immaculate, rents low and actually felt like a community. Their oldest tenants have been there 34 years, and the young ones help and visit my uncle now that he’s 91 (he’s very active and still wants to work around the place). They always lived on the property and were available 24/7. I know my cousins are going to sell it but I’m dying to continue that legacy. 🤷🏻♀️
Ketheres
My rent went up by 0.5% last winter. With how nasty the rent hikes have been for everyone else and how insane every other cost of living increase has been (especially the electricity, which more than pentupled in price), I am very happy with my landlord and wish them well.
taurondir
"All people that post on Imgur are morons" - do you see the problem there or do we all have to fucking explain it to you like you are 5 years old? Are ALL cops corrupt? Are ALL priests pedophiles? Are ALL politicians crooked? This article refers to a MULTI BILLION DOLLAR COMPANY and you are comparing them to someone who might be renting a spare room in an old family home to be able to afford food.
PhailRaptor
I don't know about all, bud definitely most
Ninjainslippers
Capitalism is incompatible with basic needs. Housing, utilities, internet, food, medicine, all should be free. A house shouldn't be a commodity to use to gain wealth from the poor.
DatButch
Yeah no, they’re not. Of course some are, but generalizations like this are never good. Without landlords, explain to me how people who can’t afford housing would get a roof over their head? Even back in the days, when the average house price was one time the average yearly salary, we needed apartments for those who had back luck or simply didn’t want to put a years salary on a home. Y’a think older people can or want to maintain a home, lawn, etc? You know the risks of owning a house?
MKESewerRat
"You know the risks of owning a house?" This is the propaganda. There is no functional difference between living in an apartment with a landlord who hires handymen and living in a condo with a dedicated handyman or living in a rent-to-own co-op with Maude the retired HVAC installer in 904 who's still up for oddjobs. Landlord propaganda conflates the financial state of owning your home and not being evictable with the hassle of DIY.
taurondir
This is like "everyone should turn vegan" argument. Just because the argument might be sound, it does not mean is short-term feasible. Maybe if human stopped BREEDING like fucking rats we would not have the problem in the first place. The issue is almost never "we should all do THIS to stop THAT from happening" its usually "why did we do THESE fucking stupid things for THAT long and allow the problem to surface in the first place???"
MKESewerRat
It's amazing. I'm like 30ish now and I still remember being *exactly* this mad and making these *exact* statements when I was 14. Literally word for word "breeding like fucking rats" and being more angry about generalizations and "the rules" of arguing online than I was about the actual content. I had plans for a one-world government run by a supercomputer one week, then next week I'd be an anarcho-primitivist. Then it'd be a laser in space shooting anyone who had more than 2 kids. I was a kid!
Miyamotofan
What if housing was provided as a fundamental right of being a citizen with larger and more luxurious properties still being privately available?
undercoverles
I want to say that if we got rid of the large corporate landlords, there'd actually be more housing at affordable rates. The city i live in right now, there are so many EMPTY single family homes. Lights never on, no furniture, but also not for rent, not for sale. Just fucking ghost houses. This is also a city where the cheapest 1 bedroom house is $3500/month. There's also a myriad of giant apartment complexes that are... Empty, charging $2500/mo for studios, no budging, no BMR units, nothing
undercoverles
Section 8 housing has a 4-6 year waitlist, while these giant corporate entities buy up all the land. A chunk of them are in China, and shit even the landlord that was convicted for sex trafficking in his apartments just gave all the apartments to his brother, nothing has changed. And yet we have so many homeless. Small landlords are fine, corporate landlords can go stick their dicks in a blender and make a nice penis colada
CaptMinion
99% of landlords are parasites. My uncle owned a trailer park and he worked to keep it nice with reasonable rent. As far as I knew he never had to kick people out because they helped to keep it nice. Most are not like my uncle though.
Ihaventconsumedenoughwineforthis
My friend owns some properties and has a full time job. He works everyday on landlord duties and he hasn't raised the rent in years
Tumescentpie
There is a difference between a regular person who has a property or two and a corporate landlord with 10s to 1000s of millions of dollars of properties. But capitalism is always going to reward parasites. That is why financial law is so fucking tedious and complicated and voluminous. They have banned a ton of things that make a ton of money. To see a bunch of these on display look at crypto over the past 10 years
bunnyrut
If I had a lot of money where losing some would not hurt me financially I would love to make a nice place for people who need help with rent can live. Imagine coming in and offering a decent complex at a much lower rental rate and seeing the ones overcharging start to panic because people are moving out. And then buy up more places around them solely to drive the rate DOWN. And for funsies sell the units to the renters so no one can up the rent on them. ah, to dream.
realizedagain
Unless he literally provided so much service and labor that he equaled the costs of rent they paid, still a parasite.
Stappen
Why a parasitte?
realizedagain
Because a landlord makes their money from simply owning capital and renting it out. That's parasitical. They make money through having capital and exerting no effort.
Stappen
How is renting out stuff people need, and in these cases for a very reasonable price, parasitic? They even help fast
paulwall117350
He's still a parasite for taking the largest part of his poor tenant's income and putting it towards his own investments for profit, when if landlords were outlawed, those poor people would have been paying off their own homes instead of putting money into his coffers. Even the best leech is still a leech at the end of the day. I mean if you believe it's okay to have someone take your money to pay off their own investments while you get nothing in return, how would you like to buy me some stock?
paulwall117350
It's okay, I promise I'm one of the good ones, I promise I won't raise the price you're paying me even if the value of the stock goes up! See how silly that sounds? Housing cannot be treated as an investment without treating other people as a paycheck.
CaptMinion
There are people who will only rent because they don't want to have to deal with the maintenance of a house or property. They could also not have the credit to be able to buy a house. They could also be old enough that they are unable to care for a house. There are also people who are transient workers that need a place to stay for a short time where buying a house is not really an option. You make it sound like all renters are fucking dumb aand all landlords are the scum of the earth.
paulwall117350
Transients have options. They'd have a lot more options of landlords didn't own all of the property. Imagine being able to get into and out of a home loan as quickly and as cheaply as you can a used car loan, which is how it would be in a scenario without landlords. Credit becomes less of an issue too with lower prices. Renters pay for maintenance whether or not they see it as a line item on their bill, which drives the misconception that they're saving when they're really not.