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jzastrow
borax is kind of toxic, i think it's banned in canada and the EU. and i definitely use dryer sheets and they're cheap as hell
kymta
Many of these came about when people had spare money and wanted more free time by not making their own. Now people have no spare money
thatsonefuckingnicekitty
I just use vinegar to wash my clothes.
yourbassist
Dryer sheets also help prevent wrinkles.
activeracer28
As a hairy man, ill proclaim static to be a real thing and an annoying beotch when its cold and dry out.
VagisilToothpaste
Fuck this. I buy and use fabric conditioner. Also, dryer sheets...because static actually IS a problem in lots of areas. I'm 35, not rich.
jrntn
I always hate how the post goes from being sensibly annoyed at the absurd tone used against millennials, to absurd DIY tips nobody will use
Anju42
I use the diy soap because of allergies. I don't think it's cheaper though. I just buy the dryer balls as well-same price as diy ones.
pablozzyzzk
After you've destroyed enough clothes and are left with an only cotton wardrobe, you might realize that some of these things have a purpose.
SybilCrawley
Fabric softener ruins athletic wear, moisture wicking materials, and bras.
FishSausages
sadurdaynight
The concern with the cheap homemade detergent is soap scum clogging up the washing machine over time.
dnebdal
Apparently it also accumulates in your clothes, which is probably not surprising.
SalamandersInMyYard
Ok, but please don't put essential oils in the dryer, that's a fire hazard.
ArithmeticFascist
This is true and should be too comment
Kingdugga
How do wool balls manage to do the exact opposite of wool socks?
Hendlton
Wool gathers electrons by rubbing against stuff. If you're wearing it, they transfer to you. If you're not, they stay in the wool.
hammersquirrel
stuffthrower
Kids are putting Downey in their drugs because it softens the blow
stlouiscardinalsfan7
Gotta ask, people are acting like fabric softener and dryer sheets are outrageous.. but for $12 you can buy both and it last you a couple..
stlouiscardinalsfan7
Months.. 2 Starbucks drinks costs the same. I’d take 2 months of soft nice smelling clothes over 2 mediocre coffees any day.
BernieKl
Soap and detergent are different things. Soap is mechanical, which why there where wash boards back back in the day. You have to scrub (1/2)
BernieKl
2/2 your clothes to get the dirt out. Detergents are surfactants that literally lift oil and dirt off. Washing machines need detergent!
Fuckweasel
Exactly. This whole post is stupid.
SmokyDoggg
I've never made my own soap but Tide has gotten pretty ridiculous on price so I tried Sun, it's much cheaper and works just as well.
FrozenCoast
The pods are pretty expensive relatively. Powder or large jugs of liquid are pretty cheap.
phobosorbust
Tide is vile. It smells like being assaulted directly up the nostrils with bricks wrapped in industrial "scent".
SmokyDoggg
I made a ball with aluminum paper and throw it in the dryer and that works pretty well. I just use the same ball over and over.
NancyReaganSchoolOfGawk
Yes this
doczaius
Wtf is aluminum paper? Do you mean aluminum foil? Because that's weird.
SmokyDoggg
Yes I meant aluminum foiiiil fooiiiiil there's no such thing as aluminum paper https://youtu.be/urglg3WimHA
doczaius
I still don't understand why you'd put it in the dryer.
BikerRay
We use a knobbly dog ball in the dryer that rattles and bangs around to soften the clothes.
SwedeOnAnIsland
Since when is detergent expensive?
Aslandus
It likely depends where you shop, but it would have to be VERY expensive to be worth doing laborious kitchen alchemy to avoid...
GulDukat0
Since murica, apparently.
Ishtar313
It averages above $10 in a brick and mortar store for a small amount, I've found getting it online is way cheaper.
SwedeOnAnIsland
What about in megamarts?
Ishtar313
That is the megamart price, it gets progressively worse. I guess between the pandemic and tariffs it went sky high.
goodisunpopular
Keeping my oven at 400°F for an hour sounds expensive for washing soda.
Thornaxe
It’s not the same either. Baking soda is NaHCO3. Washing soda is Na2CO3. Cooking it won’t make an extra Na appear.
Hendlton
That'd cost less than 30 cents pretty much anywhere in the world. But I guess that's a considerable amount when you're saving 2 bucks.
babamulon
people forget those things coz they don't need to pay for that immediately.
LeSethX
Yup industry of scale is thing everyone forgets when they suggest you do X at home. Eg, we wouldn't have enough food if everyone grew theirs
penzick
And offsets. New washing machines being advertised as using much less water but don't mention the same wash cycle actually takes 2x as long
Stargrave3000
These articles are just clickbait. They keep making them because millennials keep raging over them.
RightBauer
Joke's on them, I ain't clicking shit.
ItsAlwaysDaDamnedGuvment
100 dryer sheets costs like 2 dollars what's the big deal?
hardlyfatal
Over time they're more expensive than the balls, and waste the materials that comprise them.
rudejohn
I reuse them as fire starters along with dryer lint inside toilet paper rolls. They are fantastic for that purpose. And hella cheap.
penzick
That's genius. Don't have dryer sheets but I'm gonna start saving my lint & rolls today for our Saturday night fire. Thanks!
boogiemanspud
You can also reuse them 2-3 times if you want to be thrifty. Also cut them in half or whatever.
phobosorbust
Wife's violently allergic to wool, so I'll pass. Also, while I'm not trying to defend major chemical companies, detergent is more than soap.
phobosorbust
Most modern detergents include enzymes for removing things that used to take an "oh shit don't stain" treatment guide to deal with.
phobosorbust
So it's not like they are charging extra for literally nothing; you'll pay with your time and effort or with stains you wouldn't have had.
phobosorbust
Is the convenience enough to justify the cost? For me it is, because I'm a lazy bastard who can't be bothered to pretreat.
Anju42
I'm violently allergic to almost all modern detergents but still finding out which specific ingredients.
Anju42
Pretty sure it's the enzymes they use.
dnebdal
"Soap+borax" doesn't work well, modern washing depends on the much more easier to dissolve modern detergents.
dnebdal
So it's not "cheap/expensive", it's "works" vs "sort of works but you build up soap residue in everything you wash".
SLCtechie
Fabric softener can make jeans rip?
SomeDetroitGuy
According to jeans manufacturers, you shouldn't be machine washing your jeans on the regular. Just spot clean them.
rudejohn
Yeah, I wash my jeans about 2-3 times a year unless they get splashed with mud or have a bad spill. They last decades that way.
byzantiquity
Well, I do wear a pair of jeans a couple times before washing as long as I haven't sweated in them or they aren't visibly dirtied. HOWEVER..
byzantiquity
...I mean, lots of things get beat up over time by washing; it's normal wear and tear. You want jeans to last decades or not smell like BO?
rudejohn
If you're wearing underwear, how do your jeans end up smelling like BO after 5-10 wears? That sounds like a hygiene problem.
byzantiquity
Sweat is water, can seep into more than 1 layer of fabric. Tiny bits of dead skin naturally falling off. General dust of the world.
dhcohn
Detergent is like $10. I'm not buying those diy supplies and doing all that to save the equivalent cost of a Chipotle burrito every 4 months
Kabibble
Well LOOK AT MR MONEYBAGS
speedonthis
Dryer sheets are essential in colder, dryer climates to reduce static cling but yeah fuck fabric softener
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cavemans
Good if you have fleece pajamas in the winter. Those Fuckers stick to everything.
FluffyMcBunBun
Fuck dryer sheets, i enjoy shocking my family after I fold the laundry. Its my one enjoyment from the stupid chore anyways. Lol
cow042
I end up shocking my cat too much if I dont use them
bexbox
I love wool dryer balls, but our static is quite bad in the winter. I just toss a ball of aluminum foil in with the wool. Problem solved
bexbox
Oh I also have four cats and it manages fur nicely! The cats also like the aluminum ball when it's too tight to use anymore in the dryer.
mcmachack
It must be nice to live somewhere that the water is clean enough to skip fabric softener
HarryDresdenIsMySpiritAnimal
Yeah, and who pays out the ass for them? The cheap ones are just as good as the expensive ones
4etherling
You can literally wipe your dry clothes with a damp cloth.
triggrhaapi
Yeah, not just colder ones. I live in LA and four wool balls is not enough.
PeterTried
Never heard of dryer sheets, can’t buy them here. Never had problems with static from my dryer. Mind you, only cotton goes in, airdry rest.
gablestout
That makes a big difference. Synthetic fabrics are much more prone to developing a static charge. Cotton not so much
gbombuh
Dryer sheets are also very inexpensive.
VagisilToothpaste
So is fabric softener. I bought some yesterday. Cost like $12 and will last me about 4-5mos. If you ask me that is very affordable.
littlemirrorsatourfeet
I honestly just think they make my laundry smell nice. They're cheap, so why not?
wheelerws2718
As a Canadian, hell no. Don't even use a dryer most of time.
itisanimgurnaccount
What? Canada here, even in -35 of be never had a problem with that. Oh no static electricity, my only weakness! Lol
Akurei00
Static is ridiculously annoying when everything sticks to you. A minor zap, nbd. Collecting hair from a cat 3 feet away is infuriating.
meauho
People don't seem to understand what "dryer" climate is since they are posting about islands & places with 80 - 90% winter humidity
Devantejah
Lol, no they aren't.
deadpool381
They are great if you get your shoes wet. Used to use them when I ran cross country in college so my shoes didn’t smell like shit
JusticePhrall
Yup, it works great. Also, running a dryer sheet over your hair gets rid of cartoon static hair.
Cyrilion
I live in canada, i love pulling my hella charged laundry ball apart, finding the socks is annoying tho
PIPXIll
I live in Canada in a northern area. You don't *NEED* dryer sheets.
cantthinkofonebutok
I live in Chicago. Last year I fried my TV because we weren't using dryer sheets. 1/?
cantthinkofonebutok
I couldn't find the remote to turn it off so I went to the tv to turn it off manually and as soon as I touched it I socked it. Bought new tv
leinid
You can use wool balls instead! They reduce static, are reusable and reduce the amount of time the dryer needs
byzantiquity
Aren't dryer sheets actually bad for the dryer? Correct me if wrong, but something about the powder on them messes with moisture sensor?
VagisilToothpaste
Been using them my whole life and never had problems with any of our dryers.
ThatJerkOnTheInternet
I live in an desert that gets below freezing in winter, dog that sheds, and lots of syn. fibers. Wool ball works better then any sheet.
SybilCrawley
Dryer balls reduce static too, no sheets necessary.
VagisilToothpaste
I find they don't work. At least, they didn't for us.
CrisprCAS
Look, we all want dryer balls, but this is a post about laundry.
SybilCrawley
Dryer vs. Drier. Also, proper laundry care will definitely keep your balls drier.
Calise425
Yeah as a Coloradoan I read that part and I was like mmmmm? Idk pretty necessary
Mortinious
I live in sweden (colder dryer climate) never seen a dryersheet nor used it
meauho
Sweden's average humidity is 70s & 80s in the winter. Colorado is 50%. Big difference for static
BinkyTheRabbit
I've lived in Colorado my whole life, I haven't used a dryer sheet since I moved out of my parents house. I've ever noticed any difference.
DigiT00l
Family of me had a fire caused by them, in the state of Washington, not close family though
TheAlviss
I live in a cold and dry climate. My clothes have static. I do not care.
Captainclickbait
Never seen dryer sheets in Norway. We got it pretty cold and dry
thiswillonlyhurtabit
They are essential for me since I have a husky, they release all of the hair off of my clothes
smurch85
You can get reusable lint/hair collecting balls that you put in the wash with your clothes and they grab it all. I'm sure you could get /1
smurch85
/2 for the dryer too. I use them in the wash, have 2 white ragdoll cats and they shed a lot.
ElizaJanewhatashame
I've tried a few different cat hair removal things for the wash with no luck. Can you share a link?
AmotsEinhorc
Dunno I live in Scotland and it's baltic here. Also most of us don't use dryers. Just cover the banisters/radiators in clothes.
meauho
Islands don't really compare to inland as far as humidity. If you visit a place that averages less than 50% in the winter your clothes will
meauho
stick to you like they are soaked because static, you'll shock yourself on vehicles, doors, people, etc just from moving.
cyno01
I hate winter here because i get a decently painful shock just touching cans on the shelf doing my grocery shopping.
Promethianfire
And they're super cheap
Kehy
I hate them, but because single use item with no perceived value for me. I use dryer balls but see little value other than soft throwing toy
TimeShed
Cosco near me gives it away for free with purchase of detergent. I can't even use it fast enough without accumulating boxes and boxes of it.
capitalsm
I think I bought my Costco box of 500 dryer sheets for $8 14 months ago and I still probably have 75 left. Some people are just angry
EmailFail
Yeah, I didn't get that piece of the rant. Store brand hypoallergenic dryer sheets run like $3 for over 100. Lasts a good while
tracereading
If you're like me and stretch as long as you can before doing laundry 4 sheets a month is not unusual.
bozonebum
I’ve found that Home Depot store brand is really good for these. Also TP and paper towels
EmailFail
I always peak at there stuff like that. Sometimes they have cheap cat litter too
DickInAToaster
“PaYiNg OuT tHe AsS!!!1”
SonderingStrike
I mean, when you're running paycheck to paycheck $3 can be quite a bit over a lifetime, especially if you need to feed and clothe a family
FeverandAgue
Been paycheck to paycheck my whole life. Dryer sheets are not a problem.
gablestout
It amounts to almost exactly $0.25/week for the average family, assuming 10 loads per week. And that's for brand name. 240 sheets = $6
SarcasticComment
That and combining them with a toilet paper tube to smoke stinky things in the dorm
JuxtaposeIsANeatWord
They’re also essential when you have pets that shed
ilsalta
How do dryer sheets help with that?
JuxtaposeIsANeatWord
A lot of the fur will continue to stick to the clothes both through the dryer and immediately after. If you use a dryer sheet more gets 1/2
JuxtaposeIsANeatWord
detached and trapped by the lint trap and in general more fur will stay off of you little longer.
ilsalta
Ah ok. But wouldn’t the wool ball or other mechanisms others have described work just as well?
abirduphigh
So much this.
mikeatike
You can pry my dryer sheets from my cold dry staticy hands in the winter. Fuck it gets cold here. No amount of running a humidifier helps.
WinoCrimesand69s
They also are scented, like leave in conditioner for my clothes. Got no prob with dryer sheets
THEREALSTEVEHOLT
Yeah I love in Colorado and have a bunch of pets. Dryer sheets are a necessity in my life.
dnebdal
I like fabric softener - but I don't have a drier. Line drying can leave woven cotton a bit abrasive.
RamosIsANerd
Dryers are not essential, so can't see sheets being essential.
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kushezz
My drying rack is vertical and takes up a bit over the floor space a dryer would and it folds flat when not in use. I don't own an iron
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kushezz
Nothing wrong with preferences! Just pointing out it's not a space issue. We literally could not fit another full size appliance in our home
Lostchild12
Live near 2 major roads & my yard is filled with trees. Clothes would be dirtier than when I put them in the washing machine.
kushezz
I live next to a motorway. Also on third floor. The rack goes in the living room. Doesn't look pretty, but worth the energy savings.
Lostchild12
I like it now that all my family has moved out. Except for maybe the humid summers. Things take forever to dry. Thanks.
Datdudez
I live in Colorado. Winter is pretty cold and dry. The wool balls work fine, been using them for at least a decade.
NinjablazerZero
Unless there is a situation where reducing static cling in your clothes is necessary for survival, it's not essential.
Akurei00
It's necessary for my mental stability. Static cling and pet hair is extremely frustrating. Technically washing them isn't necessary either.
NinjablazerZero
Washing your clothes is as necessary as bathing yourself, and for the same reasons. So yeah washing is necessary.
DrVampiresheep
There are always dryer balls $5 for like 4 of them that you leave in the dryer. Needs replacing every 6 mo or so though I've def gone longer
Mairoa
Bonus, they make great dog toys when used up
LadyAmaranth
If you wash them in hot water, its supposed to renew them. I found instructions online.
Aveylon
Why in colder climate? What happens?!
ephemeralid58888
Generally lower humidity outdoors and furnaces/heat pumps lower inside humidity even further. Static becomes more common. 1/2
ephemeralid58888
Also, we tend to wear different fabrics in the winter, fleece and wool are prone to static. Fuck turtlenecks.
arkuamore
Colder air holds less moisture. Less moisture means more static.
libaf
Nothing. Hi from finland
meauho
Finland's average winter humidity is 70 - 90%. It's a lot different in places that average 30-50%
StankPitSara
Dry air, more static.
JackieTreehornProductions
Sub zero temps remove moisture from air. Like 10-20% humidity maybe = super static from everything.
mmontour
Water vapor in the air dissipates static electric charges. Cold climate = very dry air, electrically insulating.
FluffyMcBunBun
You have to spend 5 extra seconds pulling the laundry apart ?
FishSausages
Yeah, static is deffs a thing in CO
4etherling
When you put your clothes on just wipe them gently with water from the tap
buttertoast3766
It's fucking humid in OK. I can't stand still in the shade without dousing myself in my own sweat. I'd happily give that up for dryer 1/
buttertoast3766
sheets to be a necessity. I'd also probably go outside more if the weather didn't suck so much ass. I hate this state.
FishSausages
I'm from the Midwest and I do not care for the immediate ball sweat upon waking outside. No sir, no thank you
sleepinggreenidea
The dryer balls mentioned in #4 take care of that. Tightly-felted balls of wool basically lasts forever & do more-or-less the same thing.
FishSausages
Got 3 of them as well. I take no chances with my expensive electronics
OrneTTe
Dryer sheets cost a couple bucks for a box that lasts months. And they smell good.
sleepinggreenidea
Wool balls cost a couple bucks, last basically forever, produce no waste, and you can add whatever scent you want to make them smell good.
amoeba15
Or just line dry your clothes instead and don't bother wasting money on a dryer, electricity, or wool balls/dryer sheets
wuzz
but 1kg of washing soda costs €2.80 and 2kg of laundry detergent is €1.99. is this some kind of millennial protest thing?
itxtalone
then make your own washing powder, like he says
nopo
For me, those savings just arent worth the added time and effort of making my own.
pizzapartyhard
Why are you suckers buying flour from the store? All you have to do is grow some wheat, wait for it go grow, harvest it, mill it, and voila!
RacanGiraffeMonster
The bigger the bag of laundry detergent the less laundry detergent is in there, they just add more fillers...
Bhargo
to add what the other guy said, I just checked and it was about $12 for a 2kg pack in my area, though I found a cheap brand for $7.
Bhargo
the same size washing powder was $2
St0r4bl3L1ght
Same in UK. Can get 10KG for £10 in most places
urboyevan2
Here in the US, greedy assholes up charge
ZircZZ
Yep. Here in the Netherlands I buy 5 KG washing powder for €4,95. Good for about 80 washes. Making it myself would be way more expensive.
SomeDetroitGuy
It's substantially more expensive in the US. Just looked and a 2.6kg package of cheap powder detergent is $12.
GulDukat0
And for what reason on earth?
BlastFX
OK, that's somewhat worse, but given how long that will last, is the <$10 you could save worth the hassle?
dillydingus
Wait til you come to Australia. It’s $23 at my IGA. Granted I’m in rural WA
plusoneforyou
why
dillydingus
1: everything is more expensive that the US(minimum wage is also more than double) 2: I live in one of the most remote towns in the world1/2
dillydingus
Perth is the closest main city to me. 14 hr dr. So everything is imported and logistically it’s just more expensive to get things here.
Hendlton
It's the most stolen item, isn't it? Unless that's another one of those bullshit statistics that's reposted every so often.
sofathefirst
Afaik the most stolen item is baby formula
debthepleb
Depends on the country. In Italy it's parmigiana afaik.
Arximand
I like fabric softener. Fight me
LateNightBunnyParty
I do too. I only use about a quarter what the bottle recommends, so it lasts a long time.
darkusblack
You can also water it down to do the same thing. Pour half into the old bottler and then top them both up with water.
BennyBean1
stja
Sure. 6pm in front of the old store. I'll flatten you.
LinkWieldsTheTriforceOfCourage
My Silent Gen mother doesnt use it but I sure as hell do. Just not on my towels, I found that out the hard way.
n0gal
Oh, nobody forgets their first "why the fuck am i still wet??!?" moment. Soft towels though, give ya that.
Foxhack
I don't get it. I use it on towels and they dry me up just fine?
n0gal
Wash/dry a towel twice without softener and come tell me that again.
meauho
I use it on specific articles of clothing because it can make a huge difference, but no nearly as much as P&G would wish
darkusblack
Me too. You can water it down to make it last longer - still does the same job.
acuteavocado7
i do too, i find it pairs excellent with a nice sirloin and scalloped potatoes
stlouiscardinalsfan7
Smells good, clothes are soft, I love it. Dryer sheets too. A giant bottle is like $10 and dryer sheets are a couple bucks.
FrozenCoast
If you really want to stretch it out you can reuse the dryer sheets. Put in 2 that were used once and you can get a second use out of them.
stlouiscardinalsfan7
I do this. ??
hardlyfatal
Instead of buying huge bottles, consider just getting the refill packets or concentrates. Less plastic crap bulking up landfills.
stlouiscardinalsfan7
We try to use as little plastic as possible. We try to buy most products in aluminum packaging and pay a slight price increase.
hardlyfatal
That or glass, I try to get, even if it costs a little more.
SteveMND
Every "millennials are destroying X industry" article really means "stagnant industry cannot adapt to the changing market."
justamanwhoknowshowtofeel
Exactly
quelin
meanwhile Wall Street Journal and "slow-Riot" (im unfamiliar of what that is) are getting their stories shared, so their tactic is working.
terribletruth
Or "we're already making millions but shareholders demand constant growth so we need to drain everyone's money and the planet's resources."
counterintel
"Hey Boomers, come read articles that say things you want to hear about a generation you don't like"
MadCat221
It also means "We are gaslighting Millenials for having no money"
SpecialAgentPinkfinger
The money part is extremely stupid. I'm a single dad of 2. I spend $5 every 2 months on the stuff (it like the clothes smelling nice) 1/
SpecialAgentPinkfinger
So borax is about $5 and it'd probably last a little longer, plus whatever "essential oils" cost... then there's the time to make the stuff.
SpecialAgentPinkfinger
Yeah the industry is dying, but the "save your money!!" Advice way more than extra. I guarantee it's not the $2.50/mo that's the problem.
MischiefOMalley
Your guarantee is wrong. I make my own and buy ingredients in bulk. My essential oils are a free sample from a local shop. It's a tiny 1/x
donorkort
Honestly. those "articles" are just straight up advertisements, especially when a specific vendor or brand is mentioned.
mrOriginal3
It also means most of those industries are bullshit
thomacocks
paper napkins! casual dining chains! the olympics on tv! houses! health insurance! hooters!
Spiderbubble
"We are blaming Millenials in our FREE MARKET because they FREELY CHOOSE to not buy our PRODUCT"
TheNewYellowZealot
“Oh no, we accidentally sold our boot straps for more money and now we can’t pull ourselves up by them”
BananaCyclist
I think it also means Journalism is dead
wheelerws2718
Yes, this is just cut and paste garbage.
Frappo
"Company that has relied on a free market, fails to account for a free market." It's almost like "live by the sword, die by the sword."
jeffpesos
"Lies and sales tactics we employed against boomers somehow don't stick with the current gen: OUTRAGEOUS"
ontopofamountain
Above else it means "Were purposly making an article which millenials can share in disgust, making it more visited thus giving us more money
pyroshen
Exactly this. It's like saying "Boomers are destroying type writer industry". Nah bro, computers did that.
UnitConversionBotButTerrible
Revised title "we've fucked our childrens generation so hard they cant afford X." ~every boomer publication
cheesedogs
Honestly millennials oughta be proud of their ingenuity. We've normalized consumerism for way too long
randomdragon
I hate to ruin the 69 upvotes you currently have, but...
itsnotaraisin
Double upvote for you
ShowMeThemCatsFella
@SecondUpvote
ProppaGanda
But corporations are entitled to money! Bad consumers, bad! All your fault! Go buy diamonds now!
Crowlands
I keep seeing adverts for Gold on YouTube. Why the Fuck would I care about Gold?
smolbep
Tastes good.
ProppaGanda
hehe shiny :)
meganical
Also, “company that took a risk by entering the world of business now expects people to pay them for their mistake”
nopo
That seems overly harsh to me.
IupvoteAussies
Capitalism is harsh, it's why it's innovative. You succeed or die trying. Unfortunately we broke that by babying large corporations
nopo
Thats not what i mean. I mean the attitude that they aren't allowed to be concerned about their future is overly harsh.
IupvoteAussies
In business speak, this is "an opportunity to pivot" aka we're fuck ups and need to do better
whooptydoo
any company that is "too important to fail" is also too importqnt to be privately owned
SmokyDoggg
To me it's an ugly sign that we are not paying people enough but expect them to consume like they did when we did pay them enough.
afatrollofmyown
This. This this tis. I'm so tired of being expected to shell out so much money when food/rent are 85% of my meager pay.
buttertoast3766
There's so much mixed messaging. "Save your money." "Buy diamonds and napkins and china." My mom who actually says that same shit always 1/
buttertoast3766
Told me there are two kinds of people you'll meet: those who spend money and those who have money. You probably can't be both.
brunhildtheblue
I use felted wool dryer balls. They eliminate static, I keep them in the dryer so I never have to worry about it, and you can diy them.
tuxedobob
I don’t use anything. I just don’t get static?
Hurro
I hate fishing them out of the clothes (because I have terrible laundry habits) but otherwise they're nice.
LordHosk
I tried both homemade and store bought ones and neither one worked, what region do you live in?
CocoaBeansLlamaMemes
I had the same issue when I switched to dryer balls. It helps to dry the clothes on the “less dry” setting if you have one.
DaveSamsonite
A small sheep tossed in during the gentle cycle can do the same thing, and is happy to live on dryer lint and grass clippings.
v1nsai
Floridian here, is static really such a problem when humidity is less than 100?
DaveSamsonite
It affects synthetic fibers dramatically, especially socks
M1ssPlace
Yes, 100%. In the winter, my hair gets super charged as well, and rubbing a dryer sheet over it is the only thing that helps.
TheInfamousPenguin
I don't get it, at what point is "static" an issue in cleaning your clothes?
AestheraValkyrie
When using a dryer machine, the machine removes moisture to the point that fabric can cling together.
TheInfamousPenguin
Honestly that has never happened to me and I don't see that it is such a massive issue that I would need to spend money to avoid it xD
Ingloriouself0
Do you live in an area with a relative high level of humidity? We are frequently in the teens or low 20’s for 6 months of the year.
TheInfamousPenguin
I live in Sweden, it's moist as hell here sometimes? So if it's super dry your clothes get so static you cant use them anymore? xD
rulerofthedingdongs
Have you tried the essential oils on them? I worry the oil might stain clothing in the dryer, but like the idea. I hate commercial scents.
OverwhelmingSurplusOfDiggity
Just use no scent at all. Laundry perfume is another pointless expense.
DuckSick
It seems like yes everyone commenting has tried it or currently uses them. If you are worried try it out on some white rags
Hurro
Yes my wire has just put drops of lavender on it. Nothings bled to our clothing that I've seen.
CocoaBeansLlamaMemes
I’ve only had orange essential oil stain my clothes once because I didn’t let it soak in the ball for a minute first. Usually is fine.
mydogisbetterthanyourdog
I use the balls as is. EOs can be toxic and shouldn’t touch the skin undiluted.
EnokMolkeHansson
3-4 drops on a dryer ball def gets dilluted, and the traces evaporate quickly = not toxic amounts. still might cause allergic reactions.
EnokMolkeHansson
stab a hole in the ball with something sharp and drop just a few drops of essential oils into the hole. EO evaporates and don't really make¹
EnokMolkeHansson
much stains, unless the oil has a colour or is sticky/resiny. choose a transparent oil and don't overdose, and you'll be fine!
rulerofthedingdongs
Thank you. Just what I wanted to know.
MiCarino
Due to my kid’s allergies I’ve used wool balls for years. Wanted to try EO’s but was worried they’d stain. Thank you for the info!
chrisat928
I turn 39 on Saturday. I've been washing my own clothes since I was 16. I've never once used fabric softener.
AestheraValkyrie
Fabric softener gives me hives. I have to bring my own sheets when I visit my parents
Canadoug
Same for me. I'm 38, I've never purchased or felt the need for fabric softener in my life. Dryer sheets though, I do like those.
redsmerf
38 here, don't use it. I don't remember my parents ever buying fabric softener, either
TheTimeless
You are singlehandedly killing these billionaires and their dying businesses, according to right wing media
TheInfamousPenguin
I use it but then again I'm Swedish so it's not an expense I ever notice or think about
kittenguntalina
I only started using fabric softener in the last few yrs. Can't go back ?
zrXO
Sometimes I use the pre-washing option cuz makemy clothes very clean but that is all, softeners are pricy
nopo
I used to use it regularly when i still lived with my mom. Mostly because it was there and it was just part of the process.
GreySeasAbound
I never use it in my home. However living in another city for a month I had too because the water was full of limestone and the laundry was
GreySeasAbound
coming out really rough and unpleasant.
dnebdal
Do you use a drier? I never used softener until I moved a place with no tumble drier. Rack drying leaves some cotton kind of cardboard-like.
sandshoesman
I’m 35 and same. My mom is adamant about getting the expensive stuff and I just don’t get it.
afatrollofmyown
Soap is soap is soap for me. I've used dr bronners for laundry and car and all the stuff, and it does a fine job.
imakesoap
I’m 60 and I’ve never ever used it either
Santapanzer
I'm in my 30s and I use dryer sheets but I wouldn't use fabric softener if it was free. I don't like the feel.
comehomefransbrauder
44 and me neither.
filben7
Right? I just buy soft fabric cloths rather than trash burlap feeling shit.
rrlyrae
i'm 50 years old with two kids, and i have no idea what fabric softener is supposedly for.
ProfessorPritt
I buy these pods things and throw one in with each load.
theshinobi23
I use fabric softener on some things, because it does seem to help reduce shrinkage just a bit.
wikidleaf
Makes the clothes more soft as well
theshinobi23
I honestly haven't noticed as much difference in softness as you might expect, except for towels. Towels are way softer with it.
OtroBarry
its all your fault these large conglomerates are suffering
GulDukat0
Why nobody thinks of the conglomerates!
2fligh2high
thevortexmaster
My mom is in her 60's and she never used anything but the shittiest laundry soap
firefartingkitten
The cheapest laundry soap has the least amount of fillers & chemicals, less allergenic, derm pediatric dr told me when my kid got allergies.
stlouiscardinalsfan7
I’m 34, did laundry I was since 16… but I like fabric softener and dryer sheets. Clothes feel nice and smell good. I get not using it tho.
OverpricedCrayon
But they're not good for you clothes.
stlouiscardinalsfan7
Apparently I cannot “english” those because that statement was a hot fucking mess.
stlouiscardinalsfan7
Though***** fuck! Mobile can suck a butt.
Hendlton
Buying GOOD fabric softener makes a huge difference. The cheap stuff doesn't work. Makes your clothes smell like heaven for days. That's >
stlouiscardinalsfan7
Downy is like $12 for the largest bottle at Kroger. I think they not only smell nice but they aren’t hard as a rock after washing…
stlouiscardinalsfan7
I normally don’t dry most of my clothes, I air dry then steam, so I find fabric softener helps keep them soft. ??♂️
Hendlton
We have very soft water, so it's not necessary, but it still makes a difference.
Hendlton
if you wear them. I have a closet full of sheets and pillow cases that I haven't used in months, but they still smell like the day they >
Hendlton
were washed. Same with clothes I don't wear anymore.