Net Neutrality vote is set a day before Thanksgiving.

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”Hey everyone, the chairman of the FCC, is very likely to announce a vote to gut neutrality, possibly as soon as Nov. 22nd. Once a vote is called, it will become much, much harder to stop ISPs from charging us all extra fees to access streaming services like YouTube -- and they can demand payment from independent artists and labels, stifling independent voices

But there’s still hope. The most effective way to can stop this is by driving as many calls as possible to our Senators and Representatives, now through Nov. 22nd.

We're getting word that there are lawmakers who are sympathetic to our cause and considering taking action to slow the FCC down, but they won’t act unless they get more phone calls from constituents. Also, if your think your Rep's opposed to net neutrality, its all the more reason to call them. Those Reps need to hear your voice more than anyone.

Please, head over to https://www.battleforthenet.com , and give your Senators and Reps a call telling them to stop the FCC from slashing Title II net neutrality protections. The time to act is now.

To reach the call in line directly by phone, call 202-930-8550.

When you get through to your Rep's office, introduce yourself, be polite, and say:

”I support "Title Two" net neutrality rules and I urge you to oppose the FCC's plan to repeal them. Specifically, I'd like you to contact the FCC Chairman and demand he abandon his current plan.“

Thanks.“

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Repost from Reddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/listentothis/comments/7abhke/the_fcc_is_expected_to_announce_a_vote_to_gut_net by user /u/JPTIII.

Cheesecakecrush

Urgent: Your level of concern over net neutrality, regardless of what it is, is not strong enough for me

8 years ago |

mdtrep

gofccyourself.com

AntiEvil007

As an Australian I say god speed Americans god speed!

tusig1243

If you live in Oklahoma, your senator and congressmen are in favor of eliminating title II. Call them!!!

khora

I don't live in the US. Can I ignore this and enjoy my gigabit fiber connection?

ReverendShitlord

Until next month when they decide to go ahead with their agenda anyhow.

Skizzlesnap

Well given that Representation doesn’t give two shits about what their constituents say, my guess is we’re screwed.

bob493

https://www.aclu.org/issues/free-speech/internet-speech/what-net-neutrality

For those that want a "no bullshit" explanation of what this stuff is. Most sites are really obnoxiously worded and propaganda based.

T3n3br1s

Who else is not from the US but freakin out anyways because shit they decide over there tends to spread?

ForgotMyOtherAcct

Most (republican) reps support it regardless of constituent wishes. Govt is able to do this, Pai will do it. It was a lost cause last

November.. our best bet it to get a new president who supports it in 2020. Trump said he was against net neutrality, that's how it is.

buttholewink

Yeah I'm not really paying attention.

rusrsdude

It started with games first, didn't it? DLC's? Now phones: jackless phone? Buy an adaptor! Now the internet: want fast youtube? Pay 50 bucks

supersomatic

Its almost like having money gets you stuff, and people without money don't want to not have stuff

someONEgood

Who'd of thought the butterfly effect would start with horse armor. Thanks Bethesda.

gaenaralhonk

Who'dve*

TheGamingBaconator

*Who'dve'st

JHawke

Ironically (namewise) the first game with DLCs was total annihilation, almost prophetic.

ertlif

I hate this whole subject. I am way too negative to think this will end up well

zippydee

Yea I can't help but feel it's ultimately a losing battle, they clearly want to pass it, and by hook or crook they will

Hendlton

Same here. There's no system in place to stop them from doing this if they just decide to say "Fuck the public, too much money on the line."

MasterPrime

There is. It's called the Second Amendment. You can only push loyal people so far before they break.

Yes, because people are going to shoot people and risk their lives because the internet bill costs a bit more now.

People would when the government is show to be fully in the pocket of corporations and no longer by, for, and of the people.

People have known that for years and I don't think anyone has ever even tried doing anything about it. This might cause protests, if that.

IAmThePrincess

This same post seems to come up, like, once a week. Do they just keep having referendums until they get the answer they want...???

107

every time john oliver tells people to be angry about something they get their pitchforks out

I can't stand John Oliver. That sentiment isn't popular with the Imgur masses though.

Kind of. This is the same one we've been fighting for a few months because nothing has been decided yet. They come up every couple years.

BaconAndBoobsAndBackflips

Pretty much yes. What else should they do with their time? Solve the country multiple problems? That's not the politicians's job!

VaderFan2187

Exactly! Who do these citizens think they are, asking politicians to solve problems! We didn't elect them for that! /s

Cheomesh

Yeah. On a long enough timeline, it will be repealed.

YewTube

Yes. Eventually people will not be paying enough attention and that's how they win.

Fengor

Yup, saw this happen with a road the city wanted to build through a subdivision which would have resulted in most of the neighborhood (1/3)

being bulldozed. Home owners fought it for 20 years through multiple votes, but in the end lost because the city figured out how to (2/3)

ExquisiteBoobies

How to...? How to what? Don't keep us hanging!

legally call for a vote without the home owners knowing. The project passed without a single dissenting vote that time. (3/3)

ZombieTrooper

I live in EU so i cant really support in anyway, pretty sad indeed.

youandmeandthedevilmakescovfefe

Down with the empire!

Seedster5

Senators made up their minds. They don't give two shits about you. Stop pretending that any of this is democratic

Worst case scenario is that nothing happens change. That is sure to happen if we do nothing. Might as well try and expose the extent >

of government corruption.

thechelonianshelmet

The problem for a lot of people is we're not american, so we can't do anything about it, unless poolfunding assasins is available? :)

digifuzzy

Relevant: Net Neutrality II: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92vuuZt7wak

xObserverx

LittleWheelsAndCactuss

TheAvarice

Navlida

ImHereFortheTittiesandKitties

Very helpful ty

DostoevskyDisciple

i just love this guy tbh

z3lfmoord

Choke me daddy

LaLaLoveBug

Gofccyourself.com

No guarantee's. FCC had a "DDOS" attack (supposedly). Ars Technica and others were suing for access to log data to (dis)prove claim.

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/07/fcc-has-no-documentation-of-ddos-attack-that-hit-net-neutrality-comments/

NicoleRosieRose

On the FCC site I see, "All information submitted, including names and addresses, will be publicly available via the web." Is this for real?

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/06/psa-commenting-on-fcc-net-neutrality-plan-could-make-your-e-mail-public/

Just email then? My real concern is my home address...

I trust Ars Technica on this one.

Tygermann

I wrote my congressman...got a form letter back saying (for all effect) "That's nice, I do whatI want so shut up, and vote for me" fuggim

Gianttesticlemonster

So the extra fees come from providers not the site itself? So us outside of the USA aren't affected by this?

mardukkur

Any traffic passing through US servers or equipment US companies own could be affected.

GapingAnalCavity

If you're in the EU/EEC, this is relevant: http://berec.europa.eu/eng/netneutrality/

Chpgmr

I wouldn't say they are not completely unaffected by this. No one's sure just how bad it could get.

CrypticRuin

No, if state side providers throttle state side sites because those sites don't pay the speed will be throttled or choked b4 it leaves US

JayRee90

I've said this before... when the US sneezes, we catch cold

MYNAMEISBOILER

well then...

RetardedLobster

Is it people-don't-get-sarcasm-anymore-day again?

RamenAndBooze

in canada we have the crtc that's adamantly against it

Okay so we're good then? Great to know

Well, until we elect the conservatives again, they were all for it

Zaranthan

If the US starts doing it, companies in other countries will feel emboldened to try it themselves. No government is immune to 1/

My country already performs non neutral practices. This gives me free social media browsing on mobile, and free emergency calls.

2/2 millionaires subverting it.

krapmyself

Correct. This an United States problem.

ThisDique

Didn't Portugal have their internet gutted and destroyed first though?

Whatdoeswolfsay

For now

Omeguhz

yes some south american country(ies) has what the US is trying to oppose. so the problem could spread.

No. Isp's will be able to throttle or choke content providers making state side sites inaccessible unless they pay the ISP.

TezuNii

That still makes it an American problem. Why should we care about companies who provide nothing to our respective economies?

Lowlightt

Guess you won't be using Youtube or Google then...

well that and 80% of the porn sites on the internet are US based.

Any content provider worth getting content from has something called a CDN.

They want to control access to ALL internet content. They want to get paid by content providers AND consumers.

yeah, and they twirl their moustaches and laugh really evil-like. Get a grip.

CrossBetween

Why are 87 people downvoting this?

Because there's a post like this every few weeks and people who don't understand are tired of it.

dave262

Because there’s more to the story that OP always leaves off. Dig deeper, this issue is not being illustrated accurately. Be skeptical.

People usually follow the path of least resistance. Do hours of research on the fundamental issues of US politics or look at funny memes. >

I wonder which most people choose.

Can I fax my questions?

Wanna elaborate?

Plaaant

Fucking AGAIN?!

Yup.

Ravenbreaker

Christ. How many fuckin' times we gotta beat these bastards back?

Bibulus

Until either they win or we manage to get a system in place that encourages competition between ISPs

Lack of competition breeds stagnation. If we want our tech and quality of life to increase we need competition.

But its hard to do that now days. If a company like Microsoft of Apple tried to start up today, they wouldnt be able to from regulations.

I know, that's why I said that we need to encourage competition, or else the anti-neutrality ISPs will eventually win.

Right no, sorry I was agreeing with you. Not ignoring that you said it.

urfirstborn

Is it only the U.S. or the whole world?

obamalamadingdongditch

It’ll have a global effect one way or another

SwedishBalls

And the rest of the world can do what?

Watch America collapse

Rebonack

Impose sanctions on the United States. Money is the only thing some folks listen to.

HieronymousFlex

Jack shit, my dude

Dyslexicbirch

Australia already has the shitist Internet in the world this will just fuck it up more

cerseilannisterscheekbones

Truth is, our representatives are almost all paid off by various corporations. The needs or concerns of the citizen are not their priority.

MitchHon

Thinking that our representatives actually care about what their constituents thinks is just sad. They only care about their own bottom line

SciGuy

One might notice that it's one side in particular for whom that's the case.

All politicians only care about their own bottom line. To think otherwise is very naive.

One side's a hell of a lot worse, but the other's still not perfect.

devasto

I've already contacted my reps; who have all pretty much said they're not changing their mind on gutting net neutrality. What do I do now?

Sacrifice them to Yog-Sothoth

ErikaLight

The only viable option

Build a good speech, reach to your surrounding, organize protests, sue them, start a riot, elect a golden retriever as senator

At the same time?

thegameball

In reverse order

So, elect a golden retriever, riot, sue it, protest against it, THE reach out to my surrounding an build a good speech?

FrigginCornflakes

sounds to me like a solid 3 act movie script right there. with a bit of workshopping, we just might save Hollywood

Noob3rts

The problem with Net Neutrality isn't that IF it succeeds but WHEN it will succeed. People are tired. Congress won't touch it either. Fuck.

Ackes4019

and they will NEVER stop lobbying or throwing millions of dollars at it until they win. They can just hire fresh people to continue.

25schmeckles

I want to know what I can do about this so we don't have to keep revisiting this stupid shit every few months

thesmelge

You can't do anything. It will pass eventually because your politics system is corrupt and doesn't care about you.

SoftcoreFavorites

Constant vigilance is the price of liberty.

WarlockSniper

The price of freedom is eternal vigilance?

The only way for the Americans to stop this bullshit is to get Congress to pass a law and they won't because it is a controversial issue.

xrufus7x

It doesn't help that Republicans are against it and control the majority right now.

monadi

My representative is already 100% against this nonsense. I can't just keep calling her office. What else can I do?

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HotWings4Life

Sleep with her. Only way to be sure.

UnassumingAscotCap

Consider yourself lucky, all my reps keep voting for this shit and don't care what their citizenry want

Thesadghost

Hope for the best. I'm in the same boat. With a lack of time to do anything like seeing the representative myself. http://i.imgur.com/65OS7

DarkSock

Become a money-laden multinational corporation and pump hundreds of thousands of dollars into his campaign coffers...?

dingofdong

As if six figures would even make a dent :(

thereoncewasamanfromnantucket

Word to the wise* You’re going to have to exploit some people or the earth before you get rich enough to have a voice

kimsahobbit

Start copying down as much as you can from the internets.

Share to everyone you know to inform them would be one step.

Lord0Trade

call your state senators, or your state reps so if the fcc passes it your state can retroactivly pass net neutrality.

DickMercenary

Call other reps. Make 'em prove you don't live in their state.

SendMePicturesOfYourDog

Call my senator who is for it and ignored my complaints

Throw rocks and yell obscenities

AwkwardKeming

Do what I do: nothing.

wiseidiot9

I got a letter from mine, saying he was completely against it. Very cool guy.

szABOi

Watch a documentary and get inspired

HeyThatsMyFetish

Targetted assassinations.

daewookie

bro. be careful w dat

Reference to top comment.

EatTacos

Call another rep.

godofhorizons

Call other offices

SaltismySugar

Come across millions of dollars to counter-bribe the rest of the corrupt fucks.

Kemyo

Get a job at the fcc and move up through their ranks. Then challenge the chairman to roshambo, winner takes all. I believe in you.

Oh yeah, I'll get right on that. Thank you for the support!

Hyippy

True story I used to say "I'll roshambo you for it, I GO FIRST" to my friend a lot. One time he just said "OK, it'll be worth it to get 1/?

the satisfaction of kicking you in the nuts". I genuinely tried to talk him out of it but no luck. So I kicked him as hard as I could in 2/?

the nuts, immediately fell on the ground shouted "You win" and ran away listening to him screaming while everyone else laughed. 3/3

FYI Yes, we're still friends. Yes, he got me back later when I wasn't paying attention.

jhawker27

Accept the fact that no matter what the citizenry does the government will continue to fuck us because they're already bought and paid for.

ScoundrelPDX

It really depends on who's running it. People who say Government is Bad tend to Govern Badly.

MixxieMeese

I think mayors can be cool...

flamingflamingo

Same. My senator is Al fuckin Franken. Doesn't get much better than that, for us liberals.

OverpricedCrayon

Same. Email FCC people? I️ can use my dads address in Alabama and spam that douches office (politician, not my dad)

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HungryPumpkn

Why not both?

My dads not a douche most of the time

TheFragnatic

That clarification cracked me up

KaliaGrey

"SON! WHY AM I GETTING LOADS OF LETTERS ABOUT NET NEUTRALITY FROM MY OWN EMAIL ADDRESS?"

JonathanHoag

My rep and senators are generally for this bullshit, and every time I contact them about it they send me a form letter about how I'm wrong.

Sparklepop

Are you from MS by chance?

GA. Same problem, entrenched red state.

Oh yeah, that'd explain it. Last time I reached out, I also got a form letter telling me why I was wrong.

eroso

Good work. Keep em coming

Notanotherdamnone

Do you reply with how their logic is wrong?

It's a no reply address, they're not interested in hearing it

shmekie

Democracy!

Move to Alabama, register to vote

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MikeMcAwesome91

wait what

zechs293

And bring a few million of your friends!

Mythrion

Also as an Alabamaian. Please nukenus from orbit. All hope is lost.

CourtWizard

Hey hey, Huntsville/Madison is alright... we just shouldn't be in this state.

DrunkAnna

As an Alabamian, please, help us.

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theresasquatchinthemwoods

Agreed

As a Mississippian...Bro, we’s all fucked...

MyLifeisaComplicatedDrinkingGame

Who are these people in Alabama FOR this? And does your Senator not care? Or does he have a cush job lined up when he's voted out?

scnottaken

That little (R) safeguards then from any scrutiny.

Plus we are about to vote in a Bible thumping moron to the Senate. Yay us!

legitchrispratt

I'm not suggesting anyone do this and I'm not going to do this. But the "most effective" way to stop this is targeted assassinations.

1352

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This is the cycle though. They toe the line, until we cant take it anymore. All hell breaks loose, things change, then the cycle repeats.

Enygma314

I suspect we are going to live and quite possibly die in some very interesting times.

SoThatsWhere

Careful; saying you wouldn't mind if a political figure is assassinated can get you fired in the USA if your real identify is discovered.

2shy4you

Well thankfully he didn't say that. lol

Yeah, but it's close enough to be construed as such. And once a viral hate wagon gets going, facts and details rarely get in its way.

Splitlicker

Antifa is holding a position for you.

Yech. No thanks. Point taken though.

RulesOfImgur

Well..... That is correct, yet we need to keep control of the replacement. We could get someone who is worse.

ahsheetmapantz

Burn them at the stake because they are clearly witches and i dont like witches, one stole my cat this cannot stand

katseiko

I'm quite sure that if that asshat passes this new law, he'll be killed. Probably Kennedy style.

starrychloe

If you burn a church down, it doesn't automatically make the villagers atheist.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lernaean_Hydra

HD2composer

lol

GlassCannon570

No no no, the most effective way is glassing the planet. Then there won’t be an internet to make not neutral.

Txtcat

I think that thought is already in process with some people on the net already.

I.. agree.. to the legal limit.. if there is one.

ThePunishersVengefulBrother

More and more comments on Imgur state similar feelings. I think it's a reflection of the powerless we feel. Ironically, this same feeling 1

LordHades187

Nothing is true; everything is permitted

NoodleManDing

there are two kinds of people

circlebreaker

*FBI investigation intensifies*

Ancillary

I like you. You made me very smiley just now.

Rubium

You can kill a person easily. Greed and lust for power, not so easily.

GuyWhoDoesntGetTheJoke

I'm definitely suggesting someone do this.

FartPoweredPogoStick

Wouldn't accomplish anything towards stopping this crap. It's going to happen eventually no matter what you do.

TheFastpaws

Sad but true. If the terrorists really wanted sympathy to keep going. They'd kill these people and the head of the FCC. Sympathy

GoodChange

ensensu

Nah. A more effective way would be to get these people addicted to something.

BennyBaggins

And the fact that you consider murdering someone as an option is why we dont deserve nice things as a society.

The reality is that politicians threaten all of us collectively on a daily basis with life in prison and death by cop.

You'd have to be willfully ignorant in the extreme to look at it and refuse to acknowledge the option an option. It is what it is.

DrKriegersClone

Assassinations only make martyrs. Make 'the left' look bad by killing people, and you only ensure the rest of the conservatives will 1/

killer10347

Believe me, the left is already doing more than enough to make the left look bad. But I'm pretty sure net neutrality is not a partisan thing

/2 double down on passing bad legislation just to spite the radical wing of their opponents.

IronicUsername

You only ensure that if you leave enough left to maintain their majority.

And how do you think the general electorate is going to respond to a partisan effort to change control of the legislature by assassination?

ILiveUnderARock

Probably they would just do whatever this assassin wanted. Or the opposite of what was being done by those that were assassinated.

I can't speak for the entire electorate but, in my case, with applause.

Hai FBI

ThatDeadGuyFromGameOfThrones

vote them out?

StarmineRendezvous

chainedm

FCC Chairman is not an elected position though.

well then i guess youre fucked. Glad I'm a canadian

magicrhombus

No it isn't, it is the opposite of effective, it just generates sympathy for the jackoffs and swings public opinion their way.

TheGoblinTechies

Not necessarily, if the representatives are not truly representing what at least a large portion of people want their efforts will die too.

Some corrupt assholes dropping dead isn't going to turn me against net neutrality.

Might not turn you, but it will make people for net neutrality seem like extremists.

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Why is that a question? Who's turning anyone?

Not really. You kill one guy, another fuck just takes his place, and you've created a martyr.

Hence the use of the plural.

There isn't a finite amount of jackasses

True. But said jackassess tend to watch out for their own well being. Hard to recruit for a job with a high mortality rating.

That is some fantasy universe you're living in.

Nubasaur

seriously. why cant we find terminally ill or lonely people to do this?! once i get terminal im blowing some shit up!

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TheEmperorOfMankind40000

Just let me know when so I can stay away from the bombs

ImSorryFriend

On a related note, I always wonder why people target cops randomly, when there are villainous ones who've gotten away with horrors.

purpleraptor

ShmoeJoeHoe

https://imgur.com/jqnsJca

FilipeNogueira

Talking about going with a bang.

Sephority

Well... don't blow up anyone innocent I guess?

WarriorSoul

I didn't know one could be terminally lonely.

TheRockDude

now this is just a thought, but maybe this is the kind of logic behind a lot of mass shooters that end with self-inflicted gunshots

mass shooters should start with self inflicted gunshots..

OriginalPlam

Want some asbestos?

rbudrick

Aaaaand now you're on a list.

Warune

Alot of terminally ill start thinking bout judgement so they prolly try not to sin

JoshuaDanielMartin

I always thought contracting cancer would be deadly.

CaptTaka

public domain is probably not the best place to say this, but I can't stop you.

231

if they wanna keep on eye on me for years and years im ok with that.

IMTHEONEWHOSTOLEALLOFTHECOOKIESFROMTHECOOKIEJAR

We'll just have to make him live forever

SomeRandomArsehole

Or kill him while he’s healthy...

GingersGoRawr

And we're back to the original problem of murder.

degenerator

Well, according to the new rules, you *could* stop him, if you were terminally ill.

b0Bm3h

Terminally ill thunder dome! Termadome.

DaisukeAramaki

Termadome? Owner of the Termsdale Termadome? I love your Termacones!

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