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Proving his point (not true PPD)
Source https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgiLm9bCxrU&feature=youtu.be Edit: http://i.imgur.com/knS2EA0.gifv Please address all hate mail and d pics to @Talmorean
HerrBisch
Jesus, Sky News can fuck off.
Weentit
What an asshole.
spookyactionatadistance
The thing is if you watch the whole vid you might realize that she is far from a raging feminist.
imreallytrying
starting an interview with an attempt to antagonize your guest isn't exactly how you keep your guest friendly though.
darshilshah
That woman is completely correct if you watch the whole interview
SinSinna
I love Imgur, but it's starting to reek of 9gag and their fuck boy mentality.
ShmooThaSchmuck
Proving his point that he's an asshole?
UpvoteGoat
If you think this guy is cool or what he did was cool you have a very skewed view of the world and need to mature more.
NSAgent
Proving the point that a lot of anti-feminists are real assholes about it?
matyles
Good one. So true
sideheaux6
theshinobi23
jeremyaltf4
iamnotacleverperson
Soulzippey
Treefur
This comment thread is strange. similar comments have either lots of votes or downvotes.
DukeDarkwood
It's called polarization. The idea being that some subjects are inherently charged and cannot be viewed neutrally or even moderately.
SirBrendan
Not incoherent at all, she just says :"Now hold on, that is just obnoxious". Which, it definitely was.This wave of anti-feminism is worrying
AppleFoster
Honestly the anti-feminism wave as of recent is doing nothing but proving to feminist that they have a valid reason to be upset.
jeppsson
Oh look, a butthurt anti-feminist. Again. So surprised.
igottheconch
If you watch the whole interview she is actually reasonable and polite throughout and he is an absolute cunt with nothing worth saying
Favri
She is reasonable and polite, he is not a cunt at all and he makes a very good point and backs it up in a logical, well structured way.
Mushroombadger
Kate Smurthwaite reasonable and polite? This I've got to see with my own eyes.
Abracaderpa
If you watch the whole thing, you'll also be told that she's a comedian. That whole segment is there just for shits and giggles.
YoungJackZer0
I have seen her in other interviews. She's always yelling and being offended. It's exhausting.
TurtBurglar
Anti-feminists get SO MUCH MORE OFFENDED when you talk about feminism than feminists do. That's why I never understood this.
medibot
Why would a feminist get offended at all by talking about feminism? What's the point of that comparison?
TurtBurglar
I meant that anti-feminists get more offended by feminism than feminists do about anti-feminism.
rhubarbarian
I believe it's called "projection."
SomeCrazyNerd
This is fucking stupid she was completely reasonable and he just misrepresented the point like a deceptive cunt.
smoothoprater
2. That's my main issue with feminism. Feminists say they want gender equality when in fact they almost exclusively try to solve problems
smoothoprater
6. but if I feel like your movement is not taking the issues of my demographics seriously, don't expect me to promote it.
smoothoprater
5. I think gender equality is great, we should all strive to achieve it and I do my best at home with my SO to avoid any gender inequalities
smoothoprater
Ha ha even this one got downvoted. It tells me one thing about you downvoter: you're a tool and you have anger management issues. Good night
smoothoprater
4. If a man tries to bring up those issues, he will be "derailing the debate", "mansplaining" or a collateral damage of the patriarchy.
smoothoprater
1. I agree with you, but he also has a point when he says nobody bothered to ask men if there were names they don't like to be called.
ThisIsTheLastTimeIChangeUsernamesIPromise
Well, they did ask him "are there words you find offensive" to which he answered "no". So he was just being obtuse for the sake of it
smoothoprater
His question is still valid
smoothoprater
3. faced by women. I have yet to see a well-respected feminist tackling issues like life expectancy gap, incarceration rate gap or custody
becauseurwrong
That's why it's FEMinism. It addresses women's issues that make them unequal to men in hopes of gaining equality. Men have their own groups.
smoothoprater
They claim the contrary though
Sheprador
I'm going to be downvoted to hell, but there is a difference between being triggered and calling someone out for being a piece of shit.
TheEightfoldPath
She is a really onboxious woman as well (several debates to look back on) so so deserved being trolled by another obnoxious arsehole.
SuperSaurus22
Got to love the shit-eating grin he has at the end.
Everyonewhodoesntagreewithmeishitler
You are not hitler
Mimsey
"And there she goes."
ChasingAustin
JackSmiles2
this gets 3951 points but pointing out that his point was words themselves are not the problems but the ass holes who use them are gets-pts?
ThatgifwithaCat
OhNuggins
I would love this so much if she really was being belligerent and him the reasonable sass. Sadly, that's not the case after seeing context.
Blamblam101
He done let the cat out of the bag. The vile, bile spitting, hate cat.
CannibalCorgi
The hate cat that just doesn't want to be called sweetie instead of her real name? Watch the full vid
giveitarestalready
I do not believe you have got to.
ilikeblondehair
He sounds like Moriarty from Sherlock so it's pretty fitting
MesserAuditore
The "please, do go on" look will never not be amusing. Lol.
MrMcCookieMuffin
"Do what you must, I have already won "
Mankytoes
Sky News is full of shit eating grins, it's unbearable.
mt77932
He knew he had just created a video clip that will live on the internet forever.
aishamaria
MrPredator
It's like lighting a fuse and watching the damage that occurs, yet you're the one who didn't light the fuse. It's self-igniting.
MrRandom314159
I thought Imgur hated the shit eating grin people.
Alvatore
If we do, we hate neo-feminists more.
boevis
We're trolls, we recognize a well done, very public troll of a person we hate even more.
Blrp0
It's all about the context.
CannibalCorgi
Did you watch the full vid? There's ur context
Blrp0
What?
CannibalCorgi
Did you watch the full video? Otherwise you don't have the the context in which he gave a shit eating grin. I kinda think he's an ass hole
DumpCritic
hey, I saw you posted the same comment on youtube
SuperSaurus22
I doubt it. Haven't commented on a YouTube video with my account in years.
AfroSamuraiRM
I think he knows that. Pretty sure he meant something else..
alsoAzrael
This actually kinda bullshit. He said something that was genuinely meanspirited, and the video just cuts her off before she even responds.
xuvial
And nothing of value was lost :P
Favri
I disagree, he simply made the point that society is headed in a dangerous direction of unnecessary concern over unimportant issues. This
Favri
(2) "news" debate is the proof. We all have things we don't like being called, never seen this as an issue so big it merits this coverage.
YoungJackZer0
Watch the interview. She gets offended, then he wins the argument by pointing out that it can't be about equality since no on asked men.
aleister94
and with that comment you just summarized the entire history of how the media portrays women
xuvial
Umm really? Seek Tumblr.
RawSuger
to be fair that wouldnt have been a funny gif...OPs FP message might have included the info though;)
ThisIsTheLastTimeIChangeUsernamesIPromise
No it doesn't. The original airing, I mean. They actually let her tear him a new one
alsoAzrael
Originally only the short version was linked. I had to find the link to the full version in the comments.
Dirtsleeper
If you watch the whole video, she is able to respond
Groznek
Hey, look, coloring perception of a woman to be a hysterical bitch by completely erasing her actual words and painter her as ""triggered""
Groznek
Did like, a significant portion of fucking redpill come over here or something?
Greyz
you sort of left out that ladies sub-titles, maybe that would be useful
FilmMagician
Did you watch the video? You can't hear anything over all the triggering going on
YoungJackZer0
She said that she was offended and that she would never come back if they don't allow her to respond to that.
Groznek
It's doing the same thing he did.
Groznek
Misrepresenting the woman's argument to be smug.
ecodude
But then people wouldn't know that feminists clearly make a big deal out of nothing at all and only hate men! Duuuh
xuvial
To be fair, most 3rd wave feminists do exactly that.
becauseurwrong
Please tell me the beliefs each wave is founded on
haidere36
You're not being fair. I've met bitchy feminists and reasonable ones, and it's fair to say the reasonable are the majority.
ZVanderberg
Imgur is the fucking worst.
adeepermystery
Lately, yeah. This didn't used to be the watering hole for racist, sexist, transphobic, Men's Rights douchenuggets. Honest.
ZVanderberg
I legit saw someone say "MRAs are talking about actual problems, feminists just make things up." This community is cancerous.
MoriartysTeaGirl
It's one of the reasons I don't come on any more. Don't really like being told I'm mentally ill for being who I am.
LuxuryHotline
Yeah, it just gets tiring at a certain point.
ZVanderberg
They bitch about safe spaces, as if this isn't a right wing, white guy safe space.
adeepermystery
I would love to see this statement on the front page. #solidarity
ZVanderberg
Never. They're all "respect every viewpoint" until someone suggests that non-white people have legitimate gripe.
alsoAzrael
If you watch the full video, she was very reasonable, and he was a dick just to be a dick. She never got incoherently triggered, she just 1/
alsoAzrael
/2 asked for basic courtesy. She even said that it's not just a problem when men use these terms, and said that it wasn't a big problem. >>
alsoAzrael
/3 She said that everyone has rights to free speech, but it's rude to call someone something they don't like. This post is bullshit.
graehall
The choir to which this post and its subtitles preach belongs to a church that makes the Vatican go "whoa, that's a sausage fest". So grumps
Olli399
Thanks for stereotyping everyone who agrees with the guy. I really do appreciate it.
muinmuin
Thanks for stereotyping everyone who agrees with the guy that is stereotyping?
Olli399
I guess we're all stereotyping eachother now.
DMGuy
"I want the right to be an asshole, but I take offense to being called one!"
graehall
Don't blame me, blame the Vatican. :P
BushelOfLabeouf
Why do you guys idolize assholes like this
Getsoft4u
is not about him...is about her...she is the star
BushelOfLabeouf
... what?
Getsoft4u
she is popular among the men haters so messing with her is the point...this interview is a meme from now on because of her reaction.
BookerLegit
Because this site is fucking filled to the brim with neckbeards.
BushelOfLabeouf
I preach this about every other post lmao. The only reason I'm still here is the layout is simple
jrntn
"imgur -- because reddit's layout makes no sense"
supremepooperscooper
It's imgur's impressive teen male and fuckboy following.
queazy03
I think it's more about pointing and laughing at somebody acting stupid. Most comments seem to agree the guy's an asshole
AppleFoster
Yeah but she isn't acting stupid if you watch the video.
LiterallyWorseThanHitler
From watching the full source video, she has one point: If someone tells you they don't like being called something, just don't use that.
tuttocorsivo
i found absurd that people demand and instruct people how other people should address them
ThistleBlue
In a world that likes using stuff that annoy people to make them mad or upset, I've learned to like it. Make it useless. 1/2
ThistleBlue
I've been fat for years, people used to use it as a way to upset me. Until one day I accepted it and like it. They stopped, and move on. 2/2
DakAttakk
That's how everyone should be. How weak have people become these days.
RedEyesWhiteSwaggin
Sure but that doesn't really excuse getting upset and throwing a fit when the person didn't know.
poopymcgee63
But I think the issue comes into play when you try to tell me what I can and can't say through a bill which is constitutionally illegal
Iwantgreenarrows
That's fine. But if I make an assumption of gender and I'm wrong I will make an effort that is equal to their civility to rectify my issue.
williamvanauger
but she seems to be saying that ALL women object to being called something, and one thing i hate is the idea that feminism=women.
thewhifflingtit
Bullshit. I will describe people as I perceive them. You don't get to demand to be called a wolf if you're a human. You're not a wolf.
DakAttakk
Otherkin need psychiatric help.
Owlberightback
Yeah I don't see how he "destroyed" her. She was actually being quite logical. Hell, most of her argument was common sense and he was trying
Owlberightback
To turn it into a feminazi shindig. She repeatedly said just don't call someone what they don't want to be called, be mature and be an adult
javjav
Agreed. Furthermore, social ostracism should suffice for these cases. Codification into law of this particular issue would be authoritarian
lawlphailure
I would append that by suggesting that if someone is trying to use their identity as a statement as in "My Pronouns are..." Well, you know.
MrStarkLord
She really was the more reasonable voice on the video. He kept going back to strawman arguments. Wow, seriously misleading gif.
szepasszony
Are you really surprised, though?
TLadwin
right, and no one questions that, but how many times does someone ask if they can call someone "dear" or "honey" before they already have?
cobaltrose
hate using a slippery slope here, but with people these days you're eventually gonna run out of things to call someone, even if it's nice.
Bigmanstomp
see the thing is, you wont though
Bigmanstomp
thats why slippery slope is not really a good device to use
FicklePickle13
It's so not really a good device to use that it's generally at the top of the 'DO NOT USE THIS' list.
SomeCrazyNerd
It's very simple. You don't ban anything. You just consider the effects of your words. Intentionally bugging someone can be quite rude.
Everyonewhodoesntagreewithmeishitler
You are soon to be the Canadian government... which is Hitler.
favdumpthrowaway
So in the video above, is she being offended by being called offended, or by being called a feminist?
Owlberightback
Most of what she says sounds like your average HR policy.
elninjapenguin
We all know that HR was the start of the feminist regime. Then it blossomed to voting, and speaking aloud at dinner. Where will it end?
Owlberightback
She's offended that he's ignoring what she's saying and that he's acting like she's advocating as a crazy feminist.
elninjapenguin
She's offended by having to talk to an ass, but let's be real, once you show they've gotten to you, you lose.
stiner282
But why...why let anyone control you with what they use to call you. The moment you get upset is the moment u give someone power over you
Owlberightback
It's unprofessional in the workplace. But I'd be hard press to see anything like that at my work. HR would shut it down fast.
elninjapenguin
Yeah, I'm kind of wondering how often this really happens. Like, every job I've ever had, that would be an up to, and including 1/2
elninjapenguin
termination offense. Maybe it's more prominent in other areas of the world.
Reddog418
Because controlling language is tantamount to controlling thought.
ManicPixieDreamBird
Big Sister, heh.
ManicPixieDreamBird
Oh, wait, not big. It might offend the morbidly obese.
gunterleeds
Yeah all his blustering about "policing language" was really a strawman argument when you actually listen to what she was saying.
plactoid
But what would be the result of this entire debate?
LiterallyWorseThanHitler
You don't lose anything from obliging them, and by not obliging them, you are just being a dick.
Everyonewhodoesntagreewithmeishitler
You are not Hitler or the Canadian government.
Aranyszin
And the flipside of that is, perhaps allowing a person's words to control your emotions surrenders far to much power to them.
YoungJackZer0
Call me the best human in the world. Nothing else is acceptable.
StephNugs
I'm not down for censorship of any variant. I think it's very harmful and useless. It provides people with the ability to preach ignorance.
wherethehorriblethingsare
I insist you call me Shirley.
anygirlx
Finally! Someone brought levity into the conversation.
8scout8
Surely you must be kidding!
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Everyonewhodoesntagreewithmeishitler
You are not Hitler.
alsoAzrael
But she didn't really. The channel did the segment, and she was actually pretty reasonable. You know, if you watch the *actual* video.
wetfart92
regardless of gender. The people who petname women despite their expressed unapproval are clearly dicks and won't change after a news report
Everyonewhodoesntagreewithmeishitler
You are Hitler. Who doesn't understand that sometimes people talk differently then them.
BreadyStinellis
Who doesn't understand that sweetie can be said in a demeaning way and it's rude as hell?
DakAttakk
It is also often used as a term of endearment.
GregorySlipshaft
That is just basic human decency and politeness. You don't need some up-her-own-arse feminist to tell people to do it.
AdamAz
Well said. As I can see the feminists are very quick to downvote you, have this buddy +1
igottheconch
In fact you proved her point. There shouldn't be a conversation on this because people shouldn't be doing it out of basic decency
GregorySlipshaft
And yet his point was that there shouldn't be a conversation about this because it's not some a big deal.
DMGuy
And yet Donald Trump is a serious candidate for a major party.
igottheconch
You do if people aren't doing it
Notanotherdamnone
No, you dont. People can choose to not be offended by it
IfYouAreLookingForTheLochnessMonster
It's not about being offended its about not being recognized for things that you deserve as a human being because you're a minority.
GregorySlipshaft
Women are not a minority.
xzhous
Your premise about not needing to be told to be polite/decent is underscored by your "up-her-own-arse" description, which isn't decent
GregorySlipshaft
You need to actually look more into Kate Smurthwaite (the woman in the video) You'll see that she is very much up her own arse.
xzhous
I see. She is such a nasty woman. My apologies, no one has more respect for women than you do Mr. Trump.
NinjaGrizzlyBear
Says the person that is literally worse than hitler
SoapyMammaryMasturbation
Right, but why are you calling them that? Because that's what they've told us to call them. Imagine how they'd feel if people went around...
SoapyMammaryMasturbation
...calling them such heartless things like 'NowhereNearAsBadAsHitler', 'HeWishesHeWasWorseThanHitler', or 'FriendOfTheJews', that...
SoapyMammaryMasturbation
...completely opposed their identity as being literally worse than hitler.
kofunstuff
KyloyRenkins
Well played, sir, well played!
SchrodingersCat270
Everyonewhodoesntagreewithmeishitler
You are not Hitler.
ShouldersDeepInAHorse
Hey! No reason to be rude just because you don't give a fuck.
Soulren
I disagree.
Everyonewhodoesntagreewithmeishitler
You are Hitler.
Soulren
I disagree.
NecessaryPrick
But he can be literally worse than Hitler though.
AlexanderFieldisnotmyrealname
So...Stalin?
RainbowRhino
maybe zedong tho
SilentZed
I don't think he's Stalin, I think he's just taking his time.
Mankytoes
It isn't nearly just a feminist issue, either. I'm not a feminist, but I know how to treat women with basic respect.
Owlberightback
Yeah, or as a guy, I might not want to be called "dude", "tiger", or "stop that and get your hands out of your pants".
flparg2
"Make me"
NotWelcomehere
I've been called tiger by older women, it's hilarious. Hot-rod was my favorite ever though. She was the sweetest lady ever.
Mankytoes
I had the exact same argument on here yesterday, I said I thought you should use the pronouns people request, people went crazy over me...
Mankytoes
Denying their "freedom of speech". We aren't asking to criminalise anything, there's no fredom issue here, just politely requesting manners.
smoothoprater
Asking not to be called a pet name is a perfectly reasonable demand, asking people to remember whatever made-up pronoun you chose, not so
GandalfUnicorn
Yeah, how dare she get upset about something that's purposefully upsetting. She's soooo the worst. Feelings, amirite?
queazy03
If she wants to change the reputation of feminists, she should've been smart enough to save face on tv instead of taking the bait.
KellyanneAlternativeFacts
Did you watch the video? She's actually coherently making points. He's just an asshole for the sake of being an asshole
queazy03
Agreed, but is it enough to stop this post from being on frontpage of imgur, out of context or not? Best way to stop a fire is not to have 1
Favri
I don't like people referring to me as "you" so we should probably find time to debate that on national news. It really hurts my feelings.
Naiirita
Yes, but you cant act like a 2 year old then demand respect as an adult.
BreadyStinellis
Which is not at all what this woman did in the video, so yeah.
alsoAzrael
You're talking about the dude, right? 'Cause he all he did was misrepresent what she was saying.
Farecoalio
Wow I'm sure having fun on Imgur looking at front page po- oh, it's an anti-feminist circle jerk. Cool :/
giveitarestalready
Seriously. Every fucking day with this shit.
matyles
As a woman who considers herself a feminist it's genuinely disheartening. Women are real and we have very real sexism issues
asmallcat
Hey, who else gonna stand up for the oppressed white man, huh? WHEN IS IT OUR TURN?
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DMGuy
I like how the chosen insult for you guys is now cuck like that won't instantly tip everyone off to how fucking insecure and scared you are.
AaronD1987
Yeah... it's getting like that more and more often these days.
Shadehawk
oh, heres the circle jerk comment, knew id find at least one!
igottheconch
I fucking hate this site
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igottheconch
I do, regularly. I come back every so often see a couple of delightful funny things then get overwhelmed by the vicious ignorance of 12yo
EugeneMchandsome
Me too, it's so much fun
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Lilshadow48
is it also anti-women? might as well toss that one out there too right?
swaggersaurus
There is anti-trump, cosplay, workout motivation, pop culture, black twitter, dcotor who, tv...etc. there is a ton of diversity on imgur.
CubicL3mon
I don't think it's an anti-black circlejerk, anti-blm perhaps. Also, anti-transgender? Since when?
Shadehawk
its not anti anything, people just get butthurt about "their thing" and only remember the posts that offend them.
fyndir
Look at basically any post that brought up Caitlyn Jenner. Plenty of people misgendering, misnaming, etc just to be shitty.
MoneyShotHero
Full Video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgQ1uRPJ2jw
captbananapants
"These are classed as a microaggression and therefore the corresponding trauma is equally minuscule." Going to be using that one
gdata69
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bobidly
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mustang2733
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PenisOfDeath
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CannibalCorgi
Amazing how more ppl are on her side after watching the whole video. Almost like we shouldn't pass judgement before we get the whole story
SwanRonsan
This begins right before the 8 minute mark, for anyone wondering
SwanRonsan
Oh I see the timestamp in gif now, derp
MaximusTheSmall
U da mvp
FrauBlucher
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SeniorCoolio
What a wanker.
thirddamacount
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MyProfileHasKittens
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ComfortablyNumbDK
. For later
jayol
How is this even a topic? SkyNews running out of ideas for news stories.
CreamAndShit
They've got 24 hours to fill, got to talk about something.
BecauseCanadian
That was the man's biggest point; that this topic is trivial and not worth discussing. However he doesn't say it nicely
DrinkBootySweat
Future me, watch this later
OutlawGerman
"Na bruh" -future you
DrinkBootySweat
I watched it thanks to past me giving me this reminder
RyanBall1
"Just do it!" - Past self
PurpleNuage
"I Shouldn't watch this", future her
ispitonbabies
While we are at it, as a man I hate it when I'm told to "man up"-- Because I'm a guy doesn't mean I don't feel, physically or emotionally!
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FindusSomKatten
yeah an couldnt it be something like "stiffen the upper lip"or something that doesn't imply men should allways be hard an tough that 1/2
FindusSomKatten
being said MY picture of masculinity is someone very strong and thick skinned.
Dehaka
He was a real douche throughout the whole thing and she would have had seemed the "better person" - IF she had ignored him at the end.
fettuccine
the lady wasn't really ask8ng for much
PieEaterer
It's a perfectly reasonable request that doesn't need to be discussed on the news or require a movement. That's the problem here.
fettuccine
i get his point now. thanks!
ThisIsTheLastTimeIChangeUsernamesIPromise
*shouldn't need to be discussed. But apparently it does need it. Just watch the comment backlash
ATalkingMushroom
The GIF bit is at 8:00.
Stoneh
The way the video ends with his shit eating grin and the "thanks" is hilarious
DarkAbria
I listened to it, and I wouldn't really call it incoherent...
xzhous
It sounds more incoherent after you watch an hour of MRA Youtube channels. We have Christmas Eve so where's Christmas Adam? Checkmate
DarkAbria
MRA Youtube channels?
Mimsey
This is actually the most popular video by the most popular MRA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp8tToFv-bA
xzhous
Men's Rights Activists. Tons of conspiracies about "the feminists."
DarkAbria
Thank you.
MemeDissector
those little self heating meals they give you for camping. really gripping stuff actually.
TheRakshaw
Just finished watching the whole thing, and I think they were both very unreasonable. She actually was almost more level headed at the start
BlowOnItAndStickItIn
https://imgur.com/w1m9gRn
igottheconch
How was she unreasonable? "don't call people names they don't like being called" Pretty fucking basic manners
AVoiceOfReason
Language policing is unreasonable.
TheRakshaw
she did go off on the anchor hosting it who was just going as she was told to. "If you don't let me respond I will never come back..."
igottheconch
He said a deliberately inflammatory and bigoted thing to close. Of course she should be allowed to respond to that.
OhNuggins
I liked her comparison to these pet names with how people prefer to be called by name.
billyunsnbillyuns
yeah but sounds like she wants there to be repercussions to bad manners. besides just lowering people's opinion of you. Seems a bit much
igottheconch
Well, there already are in the workplace. You can't be rude to your coworkers
qleq
That's what he keeps talking about, she doesn't mention that
luckylonk
It's true but it doesn't fit the narrative here.
AskingTheRealQuestions
From what I could tell, it yet again boiled down to where SJWs and sane people split hairs: passing laws against being rude.
qleq
They are not talking about passing any laws. He just wants to make it sound like that
tenebrisangelus
What else could there be? You can't really enforce something like that without laws.
igottheconch
She never said anything about passing laws. She specifically says she isn't.
AskingTheRealQuestions
Well I just watched the 30 second clip, where he said he's offended but wouldn't "ban" the words. But he may have misrepresented her view.
tenebrisangelus
While at work you can go to HR and complain about verbal harassment. If you have told said person that you don't like being called...
OhNuggins
I think the goal was to encourage an unwritten custom of being more respectful. Gender neutrality might have been helpful.
tenebrisangelus
...a certain word or name. Repeated offenses are filled and something will be done against said person.
ira7
As an American can someone explain the nuances of "my dear?" How is this offensive? When did it become offensive?
hakunamatatas
When one woman who didn't like it decided to speak for all women. People like to feel victimized and complain apparently.
FindusSomKatten
as someone not from the english world it feels like something you'd say too a little girl (or boy).
SeniorCoolio
If you are not really good friends with someone or intimate with them, dont call them some nickname. Understood, my dear? Wink wink nod nod
SomeCrazyNerd
The guy totally misrepresented the point.
Mimsey
He gets a pass because she pulled the "feminism is just equal rights, you must support all of our bullshit because it's just equal rights!"
MidasTheAlchemist
No he was fully aware of the point. He was trying to push the focus onto the fact that this "equal movement" was only focused on women.
qleq
He was also trying to make it seem like she wanted pet names banned, and he was totally disrespectful.
SomeCrazyNerd
Nobody said it was all about women and a good number of feminists talk about the effects of masculine stereotyping and other such things. 1
MidasTheAlchemist
An equal argument is not equal if you don't argue for both sides. She wasn't, she was saying equality, but only arguing for women.
Mimsey
You don't even realize the problem with that is that they still vilify males even when pretending to address male issues. [1]
Mimsey
And they still never, ever address the most serious male issues. Because all of those step on the toes of the feminist agenda. [2]
MidasTheAlchemist
I bet if you asked that lady who she thought about saying those kind of things it would always be a man.
SomeCrazyNerd
And 2 the premise is that women have more issues. Only a bit. But it does seem true. Society doesn't tend to move on that easily, it's slow.
RoryBlack1
As a dude if anything men have more issues it's just in our nature to not really talk about them. 1 off my head is divorce bias
qleq
He was trying to make it seem like she wanted pet names banned, and he was totally disrespectful. I don't get why he is doing the discussion
pokolo
The ban list is mentioned at the very beginning of the video by the host (0:16), even tho the woman denies it (4:33). He just addresses it.
OhNuggins
I think they were going more for polite de facto, not actual censorship - kind of like "Call me Liz." "Your name is Elizabeth though..."
qleq
But what is "the ban list"? As I understand it, it's just a term for the words women don't like being called. Not officially banned words
shutupgrampa
When I watched the whole interview, I thought he was actually an asshole....
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SomeCrazyNerd
Sort of. He had one good point that wasn't a particularly good point and was being a cunt.
yippeekiyay801
Gonna join the others, as a dude, and say, yeah, it's cuz he is an asshole.
IWishIWereNotAllergicToCats
You can tell from the gif, I don't understand why anyone would think differently.
MagicUmbrellas
Sure. But she's a feminist, so...
Falanxzealot
It's Sky. Literally everyone anchoring there is an asshole. Kay Burley? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kay_Burley goddamn, that photo
LargeHoman
I agree with him. I'm an asshole though so...
PhiIIipJFry
He's clearly an asshole just from this gif..
supremepooperscooper
It's almost a guarantee when someone ends an argument with some kind of "dirty feminist" line, that they are imbeciles.
AngryFennec
I'm generally in favor of femanazis getting the business as I expected this to be but after watching I agree, he's a douche.
poochyena
he is, doesn't really change anything though.
youareanoppresiveshitlord
Well, he IS an asshole, but she's that much of a cunt as well. Rubbish, the lot of them.
lambaroo
he is an asshole. he's not always wrong, but he is an asshole nonetheless. he shouts about sjw's when he is just as guilty of the same
Iamyourcaptainnow
I think he isn't. He just thinks we got bigger problems than that. And if we talk about those problems, include all sides, not just women.
WhyDontICare
Well, he does work for Sky News which is the UK version of Fox News so being an asshole isn't unexpected
fartharder
It took the whole video and not just this gif?
OxiWF
Maybe he got sick of dealing with horrible people like the woman in that video. Heres an older vid with him: https://youtu.be/U2Whs4cuSBw
OxiWF
See the difference - he used to be more polite. Where did it get him? Getting mocked on air. Plus, watch anything with Kate and she is AWFUL
KitsuSixNinety
I'm for for condemning crazy SJWs but I don't think she was really too far off base with this one, and she seemed to be fairly understanding
decorativemooseknuckle
He was obviously trolling and she took the bait he was wrong but tbh she should've known better...
zflazeda
Most men who try to paint feminism as "angry women nazis" usually are assholes
KillerDuckasaurus
I actually thought both had valid points. No, the survey did not pay mind to both male and female party's, while the thing was on 'people' 1
KillerDuckasaurus
That was a survey about women, and was something which has fueled by modern PC culture. On one hand, everybody has the right to express 2
KillerDuckasaurus
How they would like to be addressed. On the other, going out of your way to make everybody think the exact same way and feel as if they're
KillerDuckasaurus
Trading on broken glass constantly so as not to offend somebody by saying something simply closes conversation, rather than opening it. 4
aalcoholism
Just because he is an asshole doesn't mean he isn't right lol
SomeCrazyNerd
Yes but he shouldn't be like that and hos assholery extends to his cheap deceptive argument style.
Countercheck
When you watch the full thing, they both seem like people I'd rather never have to talk to.
Dipityseren
Yep. Obviously an SJW whiny little bitch. He practically oozes it.
mechanicalchaos
Yeah, he just kinda barbed her at the end because he could and found it funny. She wasn't being silly or unreasonable. He just trolled.
BurnsDream
and yet she still fell for it, even after the entire rest of the interview
NothingsFreeInWaterworld
Wait, reacting to a needling dickhead in an emotionally valid and expected way is "falling for it"? Fuck that shit.
zato
She proved his point for him. That's why he said it. Words only have power if you let them.
SomeCrazyNerd
Well she didn't need to call him a bigot but he was being a dick. Just making a troll session out of the interview.
zato
Fair enough. And if she would have just laughed it off, it would have made him look much worse. People won't remember his assholenish.
icameinlikeafeckingball
I haven’t looked at the gif or the video, I just see ‘offend a feminist’ on the imgur front page and that’s all I need to know he’s an (1)
LlamaLingo
Yes, judge and comment before watching! Kinda the SJW signum, isn't it? :^)
icameinlikeafeckingball
Are you really under the illusion that that isn’t the signum of pretty much everyone in this debate?
LlamaLingo
Dont ask me, I watched the vid and the person I responded to didn't
icameinlikeafeckingball
arsehole and this is all about imgur’s little circlejerk against the big bad SJWs. (2)
lowkeybrotherofthor
Well fuck the SJWs
Wormbo2
Good on him. He hasn't got time for a sensitive group of people with nothing genuinely productive to bring to society.
Retr0Futurist
MRAs?
Jusmar
And 3rd waves
EverythingIsOffensiveToMe
MRAs have actual concerns that make sense and nobody takes them seriously. Feminists complain about non-issues.
Retr0Futurist
lol
TomoSevens
That's right, men are the true victims here!
EverythingIsOffensiveToMe
Well, men rarely get custody of children, are more likely to be injured at work or die in war but feminists complain about a fake wage gap.
matyles
Feminist have concerns about men's rights and well being. Women also have issues that need to be addressed. It's not a competition.
EverythingIsOffensiveToMe
The only feminist concern I've heard in years that I can agree with is that there shouldn't be a luxury tax on feminine hygiene products.
raidleadergutts
to a feminist post & comment that men also have issues that need to be addressed & that it's not a competition. See how well that goes. 3
raidleadergutts
It's really funny that whenever the issues men face are brought up you people come out of the woodwork to deflect from the subject. Go 2
raidleadergutts
Why did you say women "also" have issues as if their issues aren't the ones being focused on & as if mens issues aren't swept under the rug?
LlamaLingo
Neo-feminists has made it into a competition. I've never seen one talk about issues man has more than that we "have to be manly"
comfortableshoes
But don't you know this is imgur? You get 3,000 upvotes for posting anything that says "offend a feminist"
Shadehawk
shouldnt you be off complaing how every post is a circle jerk or something?
GandalfUnicorn
Bonus points if you manage to shoehorn "third wave feminist" into it, without actually knowing anything regarding feminist theory.
ginastringr
To be fair we all don't know the context only by wathing the gif and video, and this clip is funny enough to throw an upvote
RCTX12
He is an asshole, but has the right to be an asshole because America. Everyone else has the right to not give a shit what this asshole says.
mechanicalchaos
I coulda swore the two of them were British.
CrystalCat2
Hate to break it to you, I don't think they are in America.... ????
HermeneuticalQuandary
He is an asshole. Stand by your manhood? A man doesn't need to be told that and isn't threatened by a woman.
joeshadowman
A man also sets people up to prove his point for him. In the end he's more a man than anyone you know.
UnPossibleMagician
But a woman scorned?
HitlersRupturedColon
I can't stop laughing at how that video ended. She was making her point very clearly and respectfully. Then he just goes full dbag, so funny
lDontWanna
Men kinda need to be told that. Its nice to remind yourself who you are. Women can be proud of their womanhood. I'm proud of my manhood
CheesusChrisp
I get owning who you are and what you're about but the way you put it sounds like dumb ass talk. Luke knuckle dragging stupid.
HermeneuticalQuandary
Cool story.
CheesusChrisp
Sure, dumbass
softballguy
beardedheathen
Asshole perhaps but right all the same. They were talking about adding words to a fking ban list! Do you not see how orwellian that is?
SukumaRicky
She explicitly said we shouldn't ban words?
beardedheathen
She did however the survey they conducted was asking what words they would like added to the ban list.
SukumaRicky
Well I mean the consensus from everyone to that silly discussion was that no words should be banned, so yeah.
beardedheathen
but since it was only the news organization and not the interviewee i guess that makes it ok.
giveitarestalready
I don't understand why everyone isn't concluding that from just this one quote.
Bananasandwich03
Because the internet is a dark place where nothing logical exists and everyone is triggered by everything.
Fireo
Because its true...
Loki85
Exactly. He basically illustrated her point she was debating.
LlamaLingo
Why should they? Itsentertaining mocking silly SJWs
Retr0Futurist
Forget it Jake, it's Imgur
TheGame21x
Because Imgur loves circlejerking to anti-Feminism.
jeppsson
Because its anti-feminist propaganda. You are not supposed to know what really happened.
LlamaLingo
Not supposed to know what really happened? Watched the vid, triggerella?
pancakesinthesky
rgzdev
After demonizing rational critics feminists find themselves dealing with the same kind of assholes they themselves are.
SometimesISayHistoryStuff
I mean it is a total asshole quote. Damn funny. But totally shuts down any chance for open and intelligent debate.
giveitarestalready
Why is this funny?
sprinckletitties
You'd have a different opinion if you'd watched the interview. She's already demonstrated she wouldn't consider his point of view.
SometimesISayHistoryStuff
That's fair. I have no intention to listen to two people bitch about an issue that shouldn't be an issue. So I'm gonna relax and ignore them
RoarImATinyDragon
That was kind of his point too though, it's such a minor issue that it shouldn't even be worth discussing on television.
Derplord
That woman doesn't have intelligent debates.
YoungJackZer0
The debate had ended.
LlamaLingo
The debate were basically over, it was meant to be his finishing words
Naiirita
Open intelligible debate with a 3rd wave feminist isnt possible.
LetumComplexo
Just because it isn't possible with some doesn't mean it isn't possible with all. Imagine the civil rights movement if that were true then.
LetumComplexo
Or, for a more topical example, imagine the US congress if no one would commit to open, intelligible debate? Oh wait, we don't have to.
becauseurwrong
Tell me the basic beliefs or platforms of the different waves, please
Naiirita
1)SHort version? 1st wave lets be equal under the law. 2nd wave, lets be equal in society. 3rd wave, every time a man makes eye contact
Naiirita
3)sort of proof rape happened then you are just an agent of the patriarchy promoting the rape culture with your toxic masculinity.
Naiirita
2)with me he is raping me, and no one is allowed to question me on this. and the fact the Visual rapist isnt punished or you demand some
giggitygawds
The woman was completely reasonable and well articulated, even after he said that. His point about men not being asked was valid though.
InsertCleverandOriginalUsernameHere
she became obnoxious and wouldnt let others speak
RWBYWeapon
well now i have to unfavourite this
giggitygawds
That said, they asked him for examples and he had none. So he was just being a prick throughout. And tried to close with that quip.
EugeneShalit
entire thing pointless to even talk about.
EugeneShalit
I'm sure he could find examples but like he said this is all microagression male or female so there are very few examples of both making the
DMGuy
Really? Thousands upon thousands of women clearly and easily point to problems of sexism and name calling they've had, and your answer (1)
EugeneShalit
ok.
DMGuy
is "well, I already knew we were having an argument about this specific thing, but gosh darn it if I can't think of a counter example, (2)
DMGuy
BUT I'M SURE I COULD if I REALLY had to, so obviously we both have the same problems and you're just a whiner! Case closed!" (3)
Josedude
When they asked for examples they said that he didn't have any that bothered him in particular, he couldn't speak on behalf of the other men
blankunderscore
He also mentioned that it was a minor point where if it does happen you can handle it with humor. That's exactly how I handle it...
giggitygawds
As a guy, I pick my battles and fight them as I choose. I grant respect for others to do the same. Not all nicknames / people are humorous.
DMGuy
You know, when you can't even think of any names that really bother you, and yet countless people of another group keep telling you that (1)
DMGuy
they all get the same shit constantly...maybe you should have the awareness to realize that they might just have a problem you don't? (2)
DMGuy
"I don't have anything that bothers me, but I'm sure others (maybe) do so clearly our problems are as bad as your easily defined ones." (3)
Olli399
So? I'd rather be correct and be called an asshole than be wrong but loved by everyone.
zeiss74
I'd rather be correct and loved by everyone.
Olli399
Don't we all, but you can't have your cake and eat it too unfortunately.
poweroverwhelming
Shhh you're not allowed to be right if you're an asshole. You have to make everyone else feel good
Olli399
Gotta massage their ego boner.
CheesusChrisp
Absolutely right. Just be ready for some people to treat you like shit. Not all of us put up with dickheads. She's a dumb bitch he's a prick
Olli399
Agreed.
alsoAzrael
Not just "called" an asshole, he IS an asshole. That's not a redeeming quality.
Olli399
So? You are saying he isn't a kind person. I don't want people to be kind when I disagree with them.
alsoAzrael
That doesn't make any sense. You DO know that people can politely disagree, right? And that being an asshole doesn't make you right?
Olli399
Yes, but I'm saying I don't want kindness and sympathy. I want to be told directly when I am wrong so I can change. Not to be coddled.
LlamaLingo
He was polite tho, apart from the gif statement. Which was kinda true tho, as you can see by her reaction
Olli399
I never said being an asshole makes me right. I am saying that I would prefer to be unpopular and correct instead of popular but incorrect.
madisonandfurbabies
Did you get that from a t-shirt?
Olli399
It is my opinion, and I am getting shit for it. That just proves my point.
tenderape
Not really.
CheesusChrisp
One of those cheap Walmart T-shirts you see white trash wearing.
Olli399
MAKE MURICA GREAT 'GEEN
SomeCrazyNerd
He completely and obviously misrepresented the point, firing off cliched steotypes.
Olli399
Such as?
SomeCrazyNerd
Language police and being offended by everything when in reality she was simply saying be polite about how you address people. 1
Olli399
From what I gleaned, they want to stop people using pet names for people. He's just saying, correctly, that it is a non-issue.
SomeCrazyNerd
2 He had one half decent point about men'issues which some people ignore but many don't and I agree with the idea that women have it worse.
ArmenianLivesMatter
The downvotes on your comment prove the "loud minority" theory... trust me, be correct and F*** whoever gets offended
BreadyStinellis
The problem is "correct" is often subjective.
ArmenianLivesMatter
But only one group of people "downvote" the others
BreadyStinellis
Well that just simply isn't true.
Olli399
Unless it's a subjective issue, there is always an objective truth.
DakAttakk
I don't know why you got downvotes, you are right. Though that truth could be unknown by everyone.
BreadyStinellis
Yes, and this is a subjective issue.
michoobles
Not always, and as humans we're cursed with only being able to see things subjectively.