Jul 6, 2021 12:36 PM
ButtBot9900
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crossingdynasty
All terrorists believe they embody the actual values of the nation they fight for.
pooplloser
SIX months tyvm
IhopeIgetthisthe1sttime
*6 months ago…
FetaForMoses
6
MrRandom314159
6, but yeah.
Bojovnik84
62749287hsjeorbwysb
6 months ago
sadman13
*6 months ago
BootsDusty
nclu
"Happy birthday America, sorry not sorry I tried to kill you"
hungoveratworkguy
v Those fuck sticks don’t deserve to light a sparkler or drink a shitty Bud Light after pulling that shit
Cortezdelanoche
Love this show. On the last season. I hope all those characters get whats coming to them.
TriskaidekaFeelYa
6. But yeah.
Furiosity
6 months, actually
SuperSlowMarc105
Six months ago.
Jakethesnake357
6 months*
FartBoxExtract
Indeed. But off topic, RDCworld1 is an amazing YouTube channel.
moonglum
They are going to get away with this, aren't they?
jnuty85
Yo the guy in this meme is form a Youtube channel called RDCworld1 check them out www.youtube.com/channel/UC4G10tk3AHFuyMIuD3rHOBA
JinxRocks
I just assumed they were a day late celebrating losing at Gettysburg on July 3rd... LOL
ThatGuyWhosFunAtParties
6* months ago
lapisknight
Oh cool his Twitter handle is what bullies used to call me in elementary school
Norwegiansilverback
7-1=6
amundost
There should be some scale on pictures like this. That guy looks short... like a finger above dwarfism short
PhailRaptor
They exist in a delusion where their country has been taken control of by tyrants, and needs to be liberated
donttrustthemoon
Hold! That was 7 months ago!?!?
HypnoJack
Six months ago, actually.
Puh... Thought I was done for
pastramionrye
To them, they were trying to save it. Massively more scary but we all need to be clear on motivations and reasonings here.
loser9999
I'm surprised this isn't massively down voted. It's true I'm just surprised
Honestly, same.
This. It doesn't matter what all the media and average people are saying about it. To them and OAN/Fox/Newsmax , THEY were the heroes.
sadurdaynight
Brainwashing and indoctrination programming by media mogul's outlets doesn't exonerate people of crimes.
bivenator
Seems to work out that way for the rioters this past summer
But it does explain how and why it happened. If you want to get to the cause of an event, you have to understand it first.
Of course not. But we need to understand their motivation in context. And stop pearl clutching & the “how can they do [thing]!?” Rhetoric
It sounds Kumbaya, but these folks’ mindset remains a real and present thing. We have to get it to fight it. Cuz we’re not gonna have 1/
2/ a real civil war, and we’re not gonna win by reducing everything to a punchline.
ObliqueRay
Damned antifa tourists!
softballguy
You forgot the /s again.
Ah yes, sarcasm... difficult to grasp by Imgurians and small children. My bad.
Poe's law, my dude.
TheGhostofElizabethShue
The weirdest thing is seeing Trump lope around like we all don't know he killed people
cheezyridr
Speak up. Who did trump kill?
TheRealArclight
venomlash
Couple hundred thousand COVID-19 victims who wouldn't have died if he hadn't actively sabotaged the pandemic response.
On the 6th? Everyone who died in the "riot" he incited.
His mental state may have deteriorated enough that he forgot.
He's an idiot, but he has a thug's intelligence. Even before the election, I knew if he lost he'd try to invalidate it. I didn't know how...
I didn't realize he'd go that far.
Shaodyn
The syphilis probably damaged that part of his brain.
Well he's as weird as ever, it's everyone around him, and even us. He *killed people* and we're all just like "hah look at his pants"
TheMeatIncident
we take our wins where we can
RandomlyAppointedNSAAgent
We're getting there. The tax stuff coming out now probably isn't a coincidence. They got Al Capone on taxes, too.
I mean.. sure, but Al Capone at least tried to keep that secret. Trump killed people *right in front of us*.
AlwaysInTheshadows
My uncle: they were just regular people standing around not hurting anyone. They didn't deserve this - Fox news has fucked him up real good.
Yeah. One of my best friends is basically dead to me. He voted for Trump twice. He truly thinks Trump cares about America. What a cult.
StraightRed
You did him a favour.
DigiT00l
Block it on his tv if you can
You're a dick and an idiot.
Jamesstin
...what a stupid suggestion
right there with ya they don't deserve a hotdog. Fuck them.
MisterBulldops
Nobody does
Skumbo
No fireworks, no flags, no pride. go to jail.
LordofSandvich
Do not pass GO. Do not collect $200.
mity0k23
That’s why I ate two
SupernaturalReactions
AboutasSnappyasaZipper
We both know that’s not why
Yeah. I was gonna eat six, but your mom beat me to it. She swallows them hotdogs without chewing
So you’ve seen her work? It’s impressive.
Define"they."If youre going to assume every person right of center is a criminal seditionist,then as someone left of center?We got a problem
They meaning all the capitol rioters wearing maga hats specifically? i dunno man, you choose
So everyone that was within a certain radius of the capital on January 7th? Or just those who broke the law? Or are we talking about 1/
Everyone who voted for him? Or what? Cause suggesting someone participated in sedition is pretty serious. If its everyone? Theyre nuts. 2/2
What's your goal here? Quit being obtuse.
No, fuck YOU. It was not insurrection
says the troll account....
V4MSU
SecretAgentSuperBooger
V1K1NGFVNERAL
Yes it was. 500 arrested so far. 3 now facing possible terrorism charges. Your people. Terrorists.
MrPowPow
Treason is acting against your country on behalf of another country. Theirs was an act of sedition. Acting against your country for yourself
tinyfootprints
I disagree. Acting against your own country is treason.
Th4t1dude
Id argue that they were acting on behalf of the confederacy (the perversion of a party known as republican)
Ninjaman69
So demostic terrorism?
SomeDetroitGuy
Oh, it definitely was that, too.
jennym123
Does it still count as if they're too stupid to realize they were acting on behalf of another country?
oblimo
No, you can commit treason by levying war against the US by raising your own militia to attack it. That's what they tried to pin on /
Aaron Burr, as I recall.
movethebongos
And since when is Russia not a country?
HandfulOfBees
I mean, they would believe they were acting for their country.
theangryjanitor
Putin seemed to enjoy it very much
TheLastSpaceman
maxlt1
it's always these red faced motherfuckers too'
TheDoctorAndHisTrustyTardis
ham faced pigs
WhistlePig
Jesus Christ, I'm getting so sick of this.
Varenvel
https://pics.awwmemes.com/jesus-christ-has-left-the-chat-59551120.png
FatherAlexanderAnderson
Yeah, those guys are incredibly patriotic.
Crap, auto-correct got me again.. that was supposed to be moronic.
Hammertulski
It's cool, Imgurgram automatically applied the sarcastic filter.
SomeoneSomewhereOrSomething
According to the dictionary, what they did was treason.
CommodusLeitdorf
They wave the Confederate flag around enough that it might still qualify as treason
SlackerTactical
"It's sedition, then"
sykoticflaw
I do consider it treason, as these are the same people who have kept the Confederacy alive for the last 150 years.
Rainbowdaesh
Technically true.
Technically false in the US. 18 US 115 §2381. Treason is either "levying war" against US or "adhering to their enemies. You don't need both
ChainmailleAddict
I'm not saying he's a Russian plant, but I AM saying if he were, he wouldn't have done anything any differently.
aqqe
allenvasher3000
Treason the crime of betraying one's country, especially by attempting to kill the sovereign or overthrow the government. 1/2
2/2 sedition conduct or speech inciting people to rebel against the authority of a state or monarch.
They are doing it on behalf of Russia.
hetjr
I mean the Confederate States was a different country, right?
They tried to be i think. I dont know if they every got that far.
GuacamoleMoleMolester
So... The Chinese measures against seditionists in Hong Kong are alright? The world is complicated.
AnotherReplyToIgnore
Yeah, the concepts of treason and sedition exist to give those in charge the authority to stop individualism. It's literally anti-freedom.
minotaur5150
username checks out
B4DF15H2
It's sedition, but that doesn't make it not treason.
kakivara
True. Being not treason is what makes it not treason.
Bukkhockey
Treason has a definition and the criteria was not met. It's sedition.
If we are going to hold them accountable for their actions against the nation we need to charge them with the right crime.
We could have one law if our judges were impeccable moral.
What do you call it if you act against your country on behalf of a government official of your own country?
YeeticusOfTheTribeYeet
Idiocy.
That's pretty much what the defense lawyers are going with. "My client is too dumb to make his own decisions."
illogicalphallusies
Coup? Rebellion?...depends on the type of government official...
ghostofGracchusBabeuf
This was certainly a coup attempt IMO, which means sedition is probably better than treason even though I was saying the latter for months.
Let's say, hypothetically, that it was the head of state.
ImSilverTongue
And also a soggy fuckin cheeto
roboticKittenTamer
Not according to the dictionary:trea·sonnounthe crime of betraying one's country, especially by attempting to kill the sovereign or →
←overthrow the government.https://www.google.com/search?q=define%3A+treason
Or "Treason is the crime of attacking a state authority to which one owes allegiance" https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treason
kuriosly
In the US, the scope of treason is very narrow https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treason_laws_in_the_United_States
Yeah, so it depends on if you want to go with the historical/dictionary definition or the US constitution definition.
But my point still stands, and the original tweet was fine with its use of treason.
A big reason for the discrepancy is outside the US the scope of Treason is huge, ie: counterfeiting money is treason in Britain.
pareidoliaperson
I thought the girl gave a self-pitying story and they like let her go. I may be remembering it differently.
This would be treason.
OverpricedCrayon
I thought she stole it and only after stealing it tried to sell it to Russia. Is that still treason? Russia didn’t send her there.
PballQhead
Espionage is much easier to prove and also ends up with the needle. There's a reason that's what they charged the Rosenbergs with.
LuminoZero
Sedition, actually. They were executed for it.
Incorrect. They were charged and executed under the Espionage Act of 1918. "The needle" is my euphemism for execution, btw.
crossingdynasty
All terrorists believe they embody the actual values of the nation they fight for.
pooplloser
SIX months tyvm
IhopeIgetthisthe1sttime
*6 months ago…
FetaForMoses
6
MrRandom314159
6, but yeah.
Bojovnik84
62749287hsjeorbwysb
6 months ago
sadman13
*6 months ago
BootsDusty
nclu
"Happy birthday America, sorry not sorry I tried to kill you"
hungoveratworkguy
Cortezdelanoche
Love this show. On the last season. I hope all those characters get whats coming to them.
TriskaidekaFeelYa
6. But yeah.
Furiosity
6 months, actually
SuperSlowMarc105
Six months ago.
Jakethesnake357
6 months*
FartBoxExtract
Indeed. But off topic, RDCworld1 is an amazing YouTube channel.
moonglum
They are going to get away with this, aren't they?
jnuty85
Yo the guy in this meme is form a Youtube channel called RDCworld1 check them out www.youtube.com/channel/UC4G10tk3AHFuyMIuD3rHOBA
JinxRocks
I just assumed they were a day late celebrating losing at Gettysburg on July 3rd... LOL
ThatGuyWhosFunAtParties
6* months ago
lapisknight
Oh cool his Twitter handle is what bullies used to call me in elementary school
Norwegiansilverback
7-1=6
amundost
There should be some scale on pictures like this. That guy looks short... like a finger above dwarfism short
PhailRaptor
They exist in a delusion where their country has been taken control of by tyrants, and needs to be liberated
donttrustthemoon
Hold! That was 7 months ago!?!?
HypnoJack
Six months ago, actually.
donttrustthemoon
Puh... Thought I was done for
pastramionrye
To them, they were trying to save it. Massively more scary but we all need to be clear on motivations and reasonings here.
loser9999
I'm surprised this isn't massively down voted. It's true I'm just surprised
pastramionrye
Honestly, same.
HypnoJack
This. It doesn't matter what all the media and average people are saying about it. To them and OAN/Fox/Newsmax , THEY were the heroes.
sadurdaynight
Brainwashing and indoctrination programming by media mogul's outlets doesn't exonerate people of crimes.
bivenator
Seems to work out that way for the rioters this past summer
PhailRaptor
But it does explain how and why it happened. If you want to get to the cause of an event, you have to understand it first.
pastramionrye
Of course not. But we need to understand their motivation in context. And stop pearl clutching & the “how can they do [thing]!?” Rhetoric
pastramionrye
It sounds Kumbaya, but these folks’ mindset remains a real and present thing. We have to get it to fight it. Cuz we’re not gonna have 1/
pastramionrye
2/ a real civil war, and we’re not gonna win by reducing everything to a punchline.
ObliqueRay
Damned antifa tourists!
softballguy
You forgot the /s again.
ObliqueRay
Ah yes, sarcasm... difficult to grasp by Imgurians and small children. My bad.
ButtBot9900
Poe's law, my dude.
TheGhostofElizabethShue
The weirdest thing is seeing Trump lope around like we all don't know he killed people
cheezyridr
Speak up. Who did trump kill?
TheRealArclight
venomlash
Couple hundred thousand COVID-19 victims who wouldn't have died if he hadn't actively sabotaged the pandemic response.
TheGhostofElizabethShue
On the 6th? Everyone who died in the "riot" he incited.
ButtBot9900
His mental state may have deteriorated enough that he forgot.
MrRandom314159
He's an idiot, but he has a thug's intelligence. Even before the election, I knew if he lost he'd try to invalidate it. I didn't know how...
MrRandom314159
I didn't realize he'd go that far.
Shaodyn
The syphilis probably damaged that part of his brain.
TheGhostofElizabethShue
Well he's as weird as ever, it's everyone around him, and even us. He *killed people* and we're all just like "hah look at his pants"
TheMeatIncident
we take our wins where we can
RandomlyAppointedNSAAgent
We're getting there. The tax stuff coming out now probably isn't a coincidence. They got Al Capone on taxes, too.
TheGhostofElizabethShue
I mean.. sure, but Al Capone at least tried to keep that secret. Trump killed people *right in front of us*.
AlwaysInTheshadows
My uncle: they were just regular people standing around not hurting anyone. They didn't deserve this - Fox news has fucked him up real good.
HypnoJack
Yeah. One of my best friends is basically dead to me. He voted for Trump twice. He truly thinks Trump cares about America. What a cult.
StraightRed
You did him a favour.
DigiT00l
Block it on his tv if you can
StraightRed
You're a dick and an idiot.
Jamesstin
...what a stupid suggestion
TheMeatIncident
right there with ya they don't deserve a hotdog. Fuck them.
MisterBulldops
Nobody does
Skumbo
No fireworks, no flags, no pride. go to jail.
LordofSandvich
Do not pass GO. Do not collect $200.
mity0k23
That’s why I ate two
SupernaturalReactions
AboutasSnappyasaZipper
We both know that’s not why
mity0k23
Yeah. I was gonna eat six, but your mom beat me to it. She swallows them hotdogs without chewing
AboutasSnappyasaZipper
So you’ve seen her work? It’s impressive.
Jamesstin
Define"they."If youre going to assume every person right of center is a criminal seditionist,then as someone left of center?We got a problem
TheMeatIncident
They meaning all the capitol rioters wearing maga hats specifically? i dunno man, you choose
Jamesstin
So everyone that was within a certain radius of the capital on January 7th? Or just those who broke the law? Or are we talking about 1/
Jamesstin
Everyone who voted for him? Or what? Cause suggesting someone participated in sedition is pretty serious. If its everyone? Theyre nuts. 2/2
TheMeatIncident
What's your goal here? Quit being obtuse.
cheezyridr
No, fuck YOU. It was not insurrection
TheRealArclight
says the troll account....
V4MSU
SecretAgentSuperBooger
V1K1NGFVNERAL
Yes it was. 500 arrested so far. 3 now facing possible terrorism charges. Your people. Terrorists.
MrPowPow
Treason is acting against your country on behalf of another country. Theirs was an act of sedition. Acting against your country for yourself
tinyfootprints
I disagree. Acting against your own country is treason.
Th4t1dude
Id argue that they were acting on behalf of the confederacy (the perversion of a party known as republican)
Ninjaman69
So demostic terrorism?
SomeDetroitGuy
Oh, it definitely was that, too.
jennym123
Does it still count as if they're too stupid to realize they were acting on behalf of another country?
oblimo
No, you can commit treason by levying war against the US by raising your own militia to attack it. That's what they tried to pin on /
oblimo
Aaron Burr, as I recall.
movethebongos
And since when is Russia not a country?
HandfulOfBees
I mean, they would believe they were acting for their country.
theangryjanitor
Putin seemed to enjoy it very much
TheLastSpaceman
maxlt1
it's always these red faced motherfuckers too'
TheDoctorAndHisTrustyTardis
ham faced pigs
WhistlePig
Jesus Christ, I'm getting so sick of this.
Varenvel
https://pics.awwmemes.com/jesus-christ-has-left-the-chat-59551120.png
FatherAlexanderAnderson
Yeah, those guys are incredibly patriotic.
FatherAlexanderAnderson
Crap, auto-correct got me again.. that was supposed to be moronic.
Hammertulski
It's cool, Imgurgram automatically applied the sarcastic filter.
SomeoneSomewhereOrSomething
According to the dictionary, what they did was treason.
CommodusLeitdorf
They wave the Confederate flag around enough that it might still qualify as treason
SlackerTactical
"It's sedition, then"
sykoticflaw
I do consider it treason, as these are the same people who have kept the Confederacy alive for the last 150 years.
Rainbowdaesh
Technically true.
oblimo
Technically false in the US. 18 US 115 §2381. Treason is either "levying war" against US or "adhering to their enemies. You don't need both
TheLastSpaceman
ChainmailleAddict
I'm not saying he's a Russian plant, but I AM saying if he were, he wouldn't have done anything any differently.
aqqe
allenvasher3000
Treason the crime of betraying one's country, especially by attempting to kill the sovereign or overthrow the government. 1/2
allenvasher3000
2/2 sedition conduct or speech inciting people to rebel against the authority of a state or monarch.
Bojovnik84
They are doing it on behalf of Russia.
hetjr
I mean the Confederate States was a different country, right?
Th4t1dude
They tried to be i think. I dont know if they every got that far.
GuacamoleMoleMolester
So... The Chinese measures against seditionists in Hong Kong are alright? The world is complicated.
AnotherReplyToIgnore
Yeah, the concepts of treason and sedition exist to give those in charge the authority to stop individualism. It's literally anti-freedom.
minotaur5150
username checks out
B4DF15H2
It's sedition, but that doesn't make it not treason.
kakivara
True. Being not treason is what makes it not treason.
Bukkhockey
Treason has a definition and the criteria was not met. It's sedition.
MrPowPow
If we are going to hold them accountable for their actions against the nation we need to charge them with the right crime.
theangryjanitor
We could have one law if our judges were impeccable moral.
Shaodyn
What do you call it if you act against your country on behalf of a government official of your own country?
YeeticusOfTheTribeYeet
Idiocy.
Shaodyn
That's pretty much what the defense lawyers are going with. "My client is too dumb to make his own decisions."
illogicalphallusies
Coup? Rebellion?...depends on the type of government official...
ghostofGracchusBabeuf
This was certainly a coup attempt IMO, which means sedition is probably better than treason even though I was saying the latter for months.
Shaodyn
Let's say, hypothetically, that it was the head of state.
ImSilverTongue
And also a soggy fuckin cheeto
roboticKittenTamer
Not according to the dictionary:
trea·son
noun
the crime of betraying one's country, especially by attempting to kill the sovereign or →
roboticKittenTamer
←overthrow the government.
https://www.google.com/search?q=define%3A+treason
roboticKittenTamer
Or "Treason is the crime of attacking a state authority to which one owes allegiance" https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treason
kuriosly
In the US, the scope of treason is very narrow https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treason_laws_in_the_United_States
roboticKittenTamer
Yeah, so it depends on if you want to go with the historical/dictionary definition or the US constitution definition.
roboticKittenTamer
But my point still stands, and the original tweet was fine with its use of treason.
kuriosly
A big reason for the discrepancy is outside the US the scope of Treason is huge, ie: counterfeiting money is treason in Britain.
TheLastSpaceman
pareidoliaperson
I thought the girl gave a self-pitying story and they like let her go. I may be remembering it differently.
MrPowPow
This would be treason.
OverpricedCrayon
I thought she stole it and only after stealing it tried to sell it to Russia. Is that still treason? Russia didn’t send her there.
PballQhead
Espionage is much easier to prove and also ends up with the needle. There's a reason that's what they charged the Rosenbergs with.
LuminoZero
Sedition, actually. They were executed for it.
PballQhead
Incorrect. They were charged and executed under the Espionage Act of 1918. "The needle" is my euphemism for execution, btw.