#tradition #Appalachia

Aug 30, 2021 7:25 AM

brozac69

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The feud started with an argument about the ownership of two hogs and escalated over Hatfield's interest in McCoy's daughter.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

According to my grandma on my mom's side, my family were neighbors to both during this feud lol.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

So why are you bringing up my family history? Did one of them do something stupid?

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

As a non- American, I know about Hatfields and McCoys from Tex Avery cartoons.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Im surprised the communities they were in tolerated them as well as they did. Both families should've ended up strung from twin trees.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I have McCoy family living next door to us. We're more of a Hatfield type around here.

4 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

There's a pretty good mini-series about it on History actually.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

They still fucking hate each other. It's like Romeo and Juliette but way dumber and with way less teeth.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Now do one on the Lawson-Hill feud.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

The hatfield family operated a diner/general store down the road from my childhood home.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I am a pool shootin' boy, My name Willie McCoy, But down home they call me slim

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

My mother’s family are Hatfields from WVa. Family get togethers we’re always embarrassing. They were all friggin nuts.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

My godfather is a Hatfield actually

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I think a Lucky Luke story was based on this feud.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I'm related to the McCoys, and found out that my family long ago donated the land that became the Breaks national park.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

My great uncle was a Hatfield (I think) at birth and adopted by my great grandparents as a baby. He was a getaway drive for Bonnie & Clyde 1

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Got arrested, did well in prison and the warden got him a pardon. Retired after selling security systems.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The Campbell's and McDonald's set the standard: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_of_Glencoe

4 years ago | Likes 35 Dislikes 1

The original feud! My grandmother's side is Campbell and grandfathers is Macdonald

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

So famous there were cartoons

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

If I'm not mistaken there was a pretty stellar miniseries done by the History Channel some years ago.

4 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 0

They also do Ancient Aliens.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I think Hatfield and McCoy's was done before they really locked into Ancient Aliens crazy stuff.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

They also did a remake of "Roots" which was quite good too. They're reaaaally hit or miss sometimes

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

MLP even did an EP with this feud lol

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

I went to elementary school with a Hatfield. Her family were like hillbilly mafia.

4 years ago | Likes 112 Dislikes 0

"Hillbilly Mafia"... Now that would make an interesting GTA spin-off..

4 years ago | Likes 43 Dislikes 0

You mean, mafia 3?

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

About half the plot to Ozark.

4 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Justified had the Dixie Mafia.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

You mean.. basically Trevors story? Yeah it would..

4 years ago | Likes 26 Dislikes 0

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4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

It's where the saying "A real McCoy" came from. When a McCoy was shot and they were surprised they had shot an actual McCoy family member.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Possibly. Lots of ' real McCoy' origins out there.

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4 years ago | Likes 170 Dislikes 1

@OP you can relive it kinda in RDR2.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Didn't is start with one diserting from the confederate army?

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

also a mental illness running in one of the families

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Tradition

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Blood calls out for blood

4 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 1

No rule of law. In the absence of any commonly agreed upon authority or arbitration, every minor conflict escalates into violence; and in>

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

the absence of any security force, being threatening and agressive is a preventive way to make clear people shouldn't try to rob you; and>

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

because you can't really be alone in this setting, people live in very strong family and clan structures where unquestioned obedience to a>

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

violent and authoritarian group hierarchy is the price for relative safety against rival families/clans.

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Now when we apply this case to inner city gangs and mafia groups we see some interesting parallels.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Makes more sense if you think of it like a gang/mob war. Weak law presence and illegal activity yields no arbitration for wronged parties.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Economics, moonshining, and a blood feud.

4 years ago | Likes 118 Dislikes 2

"economics" in terms of "we kind of lost our slaves"

4 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 2

That was part of it, but there was a whole lot more to it.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Considering that was the absolute foundation of their economy, I'd say that was the basis of their poverty.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

BLOOD FEEEEUUUUUDDDDD!

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My husband (a Hatfield on his Mom's side) says it's apparently mostly b/c the press kept fanning the flames so that the two families would¹

4 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 1

² sell off their rather substantial land holdings to logging interests. Yes, the murders & retaliation, but that's why it dragged on.

4 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 1

A dead guy, and something about a pig.

4 years ago | Likes 58 Dislikes 1

So SAW?

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Black Mirror?

4 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

As a Canadian, I knew about the Hatfield & McCoy feud. I did not know about the Tulsa massacre.

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4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Didn't lean about the tulsa massacre until I saw Watchman on HBO.

4 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

as an American I too knew about the Hatfield asked McCoy conflict and not the Tulsa massacre

4 years ago | Likes 191 Dislikes 2

I actually learned about that event, didn't know about the Philly bombing though.

4 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 1

I went to junior high in Tulsa and I did not know about the Tulsa massacre. I took Oklahoma history too.

4 years ago | Likes 34 Dislikes 0

Wait till you hear about Wilmington https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVQomlXMeek

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One was white people shooting/stabbing white people. Tulsa involved African Americans, so. Fuck it, right?

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When you commit a massacre you don't go around telling everyone about it... whereas a family feud is the stuff of fiction

4 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Interestingly I had learned about Tulsa in school (albeit it was a brief) but I have never heard of Hatfield and McCoy

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I knew of the Tulsa massacre and was surprised so few people had known about it until recently.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I learned about Tulsa in recent years, and thought it was a one-off, iconic event. Then I learned about all the others... ffffuuuuuckkk me.

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

As an American I knew about the Hatfield & McCoy fued. I only learned about the Tulsa Race Riots ina one off lesson during my last school yr

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Not a "Race Riot", it was a systematic massacre of Black residents that destroyed homes and businesses of the Greenwood District in Tulsa.

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

It was supported by the city officials to the point of deputizing and distributing weapons. Insurance companies called it "Tulsa Race Riot"

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Well I guess that could be another indictment of the US public school system that we were never told about the specifics of a non lesson.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

did you know about the 3200 Indian residential school unmarked graves in Canada

4 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 1

Did you hear about the Battle of Blair Mountain? Not too far from Hatfield and McCoy feud

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

How embarrassing would it be if you were one of 20 million Americans who didn't know about the Tulsa Massacre?

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

I think you forgot a zero in your number.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It's the Tulsa Massacre, not the Illuminati.

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Tulsa massacre was basically hidden away for 100 years. Nobody learned about it in school until recently.

4 years ago | Likes 61 Dislikes 1

no joke, i learned about it doing a report on the american red cross. i asked my history teacher about it, he was from OKC, he never knew

4 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 0

To be fair, I learned about the Hatfields and the McCoys from movies and tv.

4 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

It was just not widely- Norman, OK APUSH in ‘97 had a whole section on it, essay included.

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Yeah OK started their commission to study it in '97 as well. I was never taught about it in high school tho - graduated 2000.

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as a US citizen, I was also shocked to learn about the Tulsa Massacre, it was suspiciously absent from all my history classes

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It wouldn’t have been taught tho…

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It shoulda been tho...

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Um think you meant intentionally absent.

4 years ago | Likes 31 Dislikes 1

yes, that would be why its absence is suspicious

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No, not really suspicious at all. Just intentional.

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