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KawhiLeonardIsSenpai
I'm surprised Elon Musk hasn't removed the Reader's Context button at this point.
bhobby1212
Oh my God quotes taken out of context misconstrued -Fox News at 11 (where no reasonable person would actually think we’re real news-an actual quote from Fox News in a court of law.)
powwerbottom
Ah yes, the right pretends it gives a shit about addicts for a minute
kJerAFK
a football coach believes the sport is good for people? crazy
509tigerfish
barcley
Being a decent person is somehow disqualifying for the gops news arm
ThatGuyFromJustSouthOfTheMiddleOfNowhere
Fox News - An oxymoron targeting actual morons
loveisallwereallyhave
I do not know where I am anymore.
eleonorae
Wow, they are really grasping at straws
JohnWickdidnothingwrong
We are firmly at the "My opponent is a Heterosexual, and is engaged in a Monogamous relationship with his wife!" stage of things, I guess.
FallingStar7669
I love how they linked Fox News in order to correct Fox News.
darkchiron
I really do love that all their attempted attacks against him are so insanely limp-wristed and absolutely pathetic. Dude's better than any of them.
bourbontheshieldanvil
"Tim Walz accused of being a positive role model to impressionable youths."
Revicus
Even without the added context I'm struggling to figure out what's wrong with that. Aren't extracurriculars like sports commonly held up as ways to give kids things to enjoy, learn from, and aspire to, and "keep them off the streets"? If the sport is CAUSING the problems, that would make sense to object to, but that doesn't seem to be claimed here.
Justwarlockthings
In there insane world if a kid is doing “sinful” things like drugs and getting drunk he needs to be punished into oblivion. That’ll teach ‘em!
Default87
"think of how much more time you would have for crime and drugs if you werent wasting your time practicing football" - JD Vance
ihatemyknee
Oh no! He gave compassionate fatherly advice to a struggling kid! Booooooooo!
deathandtaxes1
Was the student black? I bet they were black and that’s why fox is upset.
svga
beginning to like these community notes
blissblush
How is that a scandal? My BIL has said the exact same thing to kids in his junior football program who are dealing with personal and family issues. Fuck off, Faux News.
meowingintensifies
they also attacked Kamala for being a tough prosecutor. faux snooze can't find dirt or skeletons, so they manufacture outrage on positivity.
blissblush
Yup. Just like Obama’s tan suit.
Rips4w
The only conceivable contrary angle is that drug users and "criminals", even when they're actual children, deserve to be punished above all else. Neat.
SavageDrums
His crime: underage drinking.
fractalsphere
Walz helps a kid who is struggling bad and that's bad somehow and he's a GQP target. Republicans worship that murder Kyle Rittenhouse like he's the best thing since sliced bread.
We are not the same.
lackinglife
So caring about other people is shown once again to be a foreign idea to them
CrimeSceneShoe
Its something woke jesus would do.
karcain
you forget, empathy is weakness
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sundaymondayhippyday
And Whiney like their Orange Shitler
Targe0
Or a teacher you know teaching a student who is in a bad situation a way for them to get out of it themselves. Which also shows how little they understand what it is teachers do. Because what he did there is an example of an exelent teacher.
LitchLitch
The closest they get to caring about other people is snooping on them to make sure they aren't getting away with anything.
ClownishAntics
Fox news tricking people into learning more about Walz doing good in the world
crodrigues
we need a law that takes away their depraved addiction to spread blatant disinformation like this, we gotta do something about it. at the very least implement some sort of community notes to their own channels as well so the viewers can always tell when they are being mislead, which would pretty much be all the time in this case.
Alexap30
They rely on people's short attention to read the header fast thinking Walz said something bad. It won't be the first time that people see what they want to see instead of what is written.
TheHappyHermit
magas read headlines, not articles. they'll never read the player's quote.
HashMaster9k
Fishy820
I love how they aren't technically lying, just bending the truth a little lmao. I hate FOX so much for this stupid type of shit.
Elminst
Lying by omission. https://psychcentral.com/health/lying-by-omission
Gryphonosiris
Mom was an interrogator in the Army, she knew when I was lying as a kid, but if I lied by omission that made her angrier and normally resulted in being grounded on the spot.
acetothermus
So wait, they complain about all the crime committed by "the blacks" and "the illegals" yet get pissed off when someone does some good and prevents someone from going into a life of potential crime?
CHOSE A LANE YOU FUCKS!
xiaodown
When they talk about "the blacks" and "the illegal immigrants" that are "doing crime"... it's not the crime part that bothers them, it's the black and immigrant parts. They don't care about the crime, they care about being reminded that people who don't look like them exist.
jonReremy9669
hypocrisy if the foundation of CUNTservatism
newsguycraigevans
They've done this for decades. This isn't new. Anything (D) does can easily be twisted to make it sound bad. Anything (R) does can easily be twisted to make it sound good. That's the game and it works. Never underestimate the stupidity of the average American voter.
4chanrefugee
It was wrong of him to offer assistance and compassion! It deprives us of someone to complain about and he could've used that effort to assist a white youth in a similar situation!
/S
acetothermus
You put the /S but sadly that is exactly the mindset MAGA and GQP (I know same thing) have.
GWJYonder
This is one of those moments (as is most of the time when they are "hypocritical") where things don't make since, because the behavior seems weird because their claimed goals/plans/values are not the same as their actual ones. Typically their actions make perfect sense when you understand their real goals.
Conservatives don't hate crime and want to minimize crime. They hate criminals and want to be able to use and abuse them. They do want them to EXIST though, and in large numbers.
varesya
And if they don't, they'll find a way to make them exist by criminalizing new stuff. See the War on Drugs.
NonWellKnownImgurian
Grasping at straws
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NonWellKnownImgurian
It is fun. I also love that now that they got all shitty about being called garbage, flipping the script and calling them snowflakes is much more harmful to their pathetic egos
Targe0
Yep, it is kind of hilarious that 90% of their attacks against him have intern made people like him more. And the last 10% is just shit they made up that is 100% not real which gets quickly debunked.
Targe0
No, that was a few months ago, when they couldn't find any straws they started making shit up blatantly. Because this man is basically spotless for a politician. The only dirt they can ever find is him being a good-hearted human helping people. And they somehow think if they twist it enough, his good deeds will make people dislike him.
Gryphonosiris
They tried to find a way to say that him implementing free lunches for kids in school was wrong, but couldn't find a way to make it stick.
Targe0
Because feeding hungry children has historically been seen as a heroic and honourable move. Whoever thought that would be a good way to attack him I hope got fired from the think tank group. Unless they did it intentionally to help the Dems, then promote them. Otherwise, Yikes, that was a special kind of stupid.
Gryphonosiris
With the right Cruelty is always the end goal.
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NonWellKnownImgurian
Yerp
FuckTammy
I get it, it’s the perfect pic, I love that episode; but it still makes me sad to see Bob maga’d up like that.
thedarkcanuck
It should be Pesto
n0n53n53
desperation
taez555
Wait... helping someone with addiction is now bad? Jesus, what kind of childhood did these people have?
KleptoKea
What kind of country is USA, or what kind of People are the Americans, when Fox News gets this much oxygen and tolerance, if not support, with the blatant hatred, fascism and ignorance they spread.
smorsdoeuvres
whitefoxkei
"I hadn't realized [they] had been born, I just assumed [they] had simply congealed in a gutter somewhere." -- Stewie Griffon, paraphrased.
DemSumBigAssRidges
Helping someone is bad. Figger it out, Libtard!
RooGryphon
helping anyone that isn't rich and white is socialism and shows you as having weakness (empathy)
IAmDuckHammer
Grew up in a Conservative family no doubt. Tim Walz was like a father to those people and helped so many of them to eliminate their addiction. Trump, on the other hand, wants his enemies shot dead (yes, he actually wants Cheney dead - I have the video and reports I sent to the FBI and CIA).
Whitebeardthepirate
@taez555 to quote christopher titus referring to Ted Cruz, to explain it: "then you have people like that, that are now grown up and are saying to themselves "no one's gonna wipe a booger on me again, no one's gonna wipe a booger on me again, and if they do I'm gonna tattle, NYEEEHHHHHHHH!" that's what they want, power at any costs to "get back at everyone"
WellAckchually
Is Titus still good? I kinda thought he walked the line before all this shit started and I've been afraid to go and look how he's doing now
Whitebeardthepirate
it's like any comedian though, some gonna like it, others not
ChelChehalem
Just like school shootings, there's nothing we can do about addiction. It's in God's hands. Thoughts and prayers.
KidShenck
A lot of stick, no carrot.
spookyactionatadistance
Look. They are all ghouls. It's the best description for MAGA Republicans and their news. All malicious ghouls ready to do anything to anyone for 1 minute of what they think strength is.
yuugian
If they are rich, they get protected and enabled. If they are not rich (or just less rich) they get ruined and added to the slave population
usingYourMomAsAHat
Heh, speaking of Jesus, I don't think they actually know much about the guy lol
Shadowkrieger
Republican Christian ones. Which tells you all you need to know. Christian and republican morals, wait they don’t have any.
popefool
To them, people with addictions are to be punished. Criminals are to be punished. No, don't question what led them to become addicts or turn to crime. Punish them. As god intended.
FrozenCoast
Unless them or their immediate circle are the addicts, then it’s all about forgiveness.
georgejimmydoodle
Republicans think that feeding hungry children is wrong, so...
sfrinlan
My read is that they're trying to say that Walz exploited the kid by saying "Let's don't talk about those issues. Just keep playing football for me and shut up" because that's the kind of thing you see from conservative coaches.
JollyWatson
Republicans have always viewed drug addicts as less than people. That's why they started the war on drugs in the first place and locked up thousands (tens of thousands?) of people for POT
IWasGoingToMakeEspresso
I don’t quite agree. They have always viewed non-white people as less than human and so they used the War on Drugs as a way to weaponize the US judicial system against them.
Neurisko
They hate anyone who isn't in their small in-group. If they drink and take drugs, they are the exception. If anyone else drinks and takes drugs outside of their in-group, those people are worthless garbage and they should die. That's how these people think. They are monstrous.
Blud4BludGod
The funny thing is, having bartended for literally hundreds of weddings and other buy-out private events, I can tell you for sure that vocal conservative's problem with alcohol abuse is ASTOUNDINGLY higher than other demographics. Like, to the point that if I saw red hats I would just immediately start sandbagging all my backups to be ready for it. They're pigs.
sweetfeetpete
Crack epidemic v opioid epidemic
Ironferrox
Crack epidemic vs cocaine party
manyslayer
My abortion vs. their abortion
oozabooza
As opposed to... "No, son. Quit the team and throw your life away." WTF?
Tumescentpie
That cult is fucking weird.
Imademyselfsquirtle
Yes leading to being a Republican
LitchLitch
It stems from vile essentialism, the idea that there are good and bad people, not just people who do good or bad things. It's the heart of most bigotry.
sundaymondayhippyday
Just as Jesus taught- never forgive
KrampusCopia
The point is, that Walz was the person that was there to say it to him. Anyone could have said "keep playing" I'm willing to conjecture that others did, but it meant something coming from someone who he admired.
WigglyBlondeNoodle
Whenever I'm struggling, I find giving up on life to be super helpful! /s
minipancho94
Remember, for these people, the harm is the point. The "scandal" is that he treated him with compassion and as a fellow human being, instead of labeling them as an "other" and punishing them for being "sub-human" in their eyes. Ironic really considering how sub-human they are.
backrideup9
Yes. Rugged individualism, because asking for help is the least manly thing a man can do in their minds.
mutingisforcowardsandsycophants
I think the mindset making this a scandal requires a belief that "an alcoholic drug addict" shouldn't be allowed to compete with "the rest of these good boys with bright futures". That's usually the kind of presumptive leap Fox leads viewers to take.
Somethingwittythiswaycomes
They need to play with the good kids like Kyle Rittenhouse and Brock Turner. Because if your boy isn't sexual assaulting the cheerleaders and shooting some brown folk, is he even really on the team?
KiddR78
Ah, just like Jesus taught. I think he said, turn your back on the downtrodden. Or something like that, I don’t read the Bible.
modus0
"good boys with bright futures" You mean like rapist Brock Allen Turner?
mutingisforcowardsandsycophants
I don't NOT mean Brock Allen Turner, the rapist, and rapists like him, but I don't know that there was a rapist on that team. Though if there was, the right certainly wouldn't be the ones to tell us unless he was nonwhite.
If Walz had told Brock Allen Turner the rapist to keep playing and not give up, then we might have an actual problem.
SomeDetroitGuy
It's typical right-wing "there are bad people who need to be punished and good people who need to be protected" bullshit. Kid who does drugs is part of "bad people" and needs to he punished and the "good people" need to be protected. It's core to how right wingers see crime and jusice.
VoidScreamer
Unless that kid who does drugs is the child of a wealthy white man, in which case he's ill and needs help and you should have more compassion for him.
Athanar
Even that depends on the party line. Look at how they've dragged Hunter Biden.
kittyfajitas
Ah, like Brock Allen Turner, the Rapist who goes by Allen Turner now to hide that he's Brock Turner the Rapist. Where the prosecutor asked for 6 years, and the judge gave him 3 months because a harsher sentence would have a "severe impact on him." Our poor, poor little white boy college rapist.
Apothecarius
"You've gotta focus on the crime and alcohol if you want to be successful!"
VraedenHughes
That's what they taught at trump University.
FoxxoniusAugustus
If you focus on them enough then you can be a conservative politician some day!
fformulaa
"Get in there, champion! Use those evading skills from sports in your crimes! Booze up to tank up on ideas and struggles! You got this! I believe in you!"
OliverOtter
No, as opposed to, "This is one more stress you don't need." The odds of success as a professional athlete are microscopic. "Quit the team" and "throw your life away" are utterly unrelated things. "Focus on your studies and getting clean" is a road to success. "Focus on athletics" is a road to poverty and failure, or at best lower middle class mediocrity and life-long Al Bundy lamentations of past high school "glory," for 99.99% of high school athletes.
SantaBananas
Having a group identity, a healthy activity to do, and being around coaches who care about you are all positive factors in limiting drug use and crime, according to Hirschi's social bonds theory and other leading criminological thought
OliverOtter
Except it hadn't worked, had it? He said, *to a kid who was alrleady both on the team and engaged in drugs and crime*, "this is working great, keep doing what you're doing." Now, it's possible (as I noted above to AllTheKitties) that he knew the kid, and reasonably thought the kid would be doing even worse without it, and it could be reasonable to say "keep at it so you don't get even worse." But if it was false hope there's some future in sports for him, it's more likely ruinous.
SantaBananas
Your entire argument is based on the false assumption that it was ruinous. Yes, some small percentage of high school athletes delude themselves with the idea of going pro, but the vast majority just do it for friends and to have a healthy and fun activity.
LookingLikeASnack
There's a direct quote from the student in question, in the image above, where he acknowledges that it was good advice. It did work.
sundaymondayhippyday
No one thinks a future in sports is possible in this story
AllTheKitties
Yes the vast majority of high school athletes don't ever earn money with it. Earning money with it isn't the point.. Things can be worthwhile and beneficial even if they aren't profitable.
OliverOtter
I don't disagree, IF the kid was dealing well with things (he wasn't), or it was clear that to him the athletics was a release and he would be coping even worse without it.
My disagreement is with the idea that "quit the team" and "throw your life away" are linked. They're likely unrelated, or even backwards. "Quit the team and use the time to get the rest of your life in order" is FAR more likely good advice than "You must stay on the team because sports is your ticket to a better life."
FrozenCoast
No body said that sports were going to be this kid’s ticket. But maybe being involved in heathy extracurricular activities would lead to better results than spending more time out on the street with the people who are involved in crime and drugs.