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This is not just a distraction from the Epstein files, this is actually a lot more important than the Epstein files, because this could start WW3. China and Russia are close allies of Iran and both have warships in the straits of Hormuz right now. This could really easily become a world-ending conflict. There will likely be nearly unanimous support for this among US politicians, including Democrats.
Please do not fall for propaganda. The US and Israel failed to install their preferred dictator (Reza Pahlavi) by fomenting a coup so now they're trying this. The goal is to gain control of their oil. There is no way this ends well for anyone in Iran. At a minimum an invasion of Iran will kill millions of people, mostly civilians.
It is conceivable that they will try to use a black flag attack to manufacture consent, but if this happens you can see the evidence right here that the US and Israel already planned this war in advance.
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/security-aviation/2025-10-03/ty-article-magazine/.premium/the-israeli-influence-operation-in-iran-pushing-to-reinstate-the-shah-monarchy/00000199-9f12-df33-a5dd-9f770d7a0000
GlenL
WW3 and Aliens . . . I think we all underestimated how many kids he raped
PurifiedInTheWatersOfLakeMinnetonka
At this point…fuck it. We had a good run for a little while.
BaronHansVonPumpkin
Hate to say atodaso, but atodaso. I fckin atodaso.
Munchman347
Didn't someone repeatedly warn us that the president would start a war in Iran if his approval ratings went in the toilet?...
PointlessNips
So we have these perfectly amazing alternative like solar, wind, and hydro, that we can source locally, but no no, let's go to eat over and over again over dead dinosaur goo. You've got to love the fiscal responsibility and forward thinking here. /s
19marcurious57
Pictured here is Southcom, currently operating in the Caribbean. The military hardware Trumpler sent towards Iran is twice as large.
JohnnyricoMC
If you keep an eye on ADS-B Exchange, there's also a steady stream of C-17's and the occasional C-5 Galaxy going back and forth between Ramstein AFB and going dark over the Greek islands. There's definitely equipment being moved.
Cranbananarama
So he's sending soldiers back off to war? Does that diminish the numbers should something happen at home? Asking for an angry mob.
CaptCrobar
No new wars, America first. What a joke.
squishybaker
If WW3 is gonna start can it wait until I'm at work, as it's going to be one of the first strike locations.
karlfrack
If you are a U.S. citizen and actually pay taxes, you are just Israel's bitch.
sadurdaynight
Going to war should be a special situation allowing another election. Let the people have a say and avoid war. Bc trump was elected on the promise of no wars.
Tolocamp
#3 He grew up in the US, absolutely loaded, with all the millions his father could grab before fleeing the country. And THIS is how his teeth look like ?
Anything else is uninteresting blabla. Will be just another fascist, american puppet like his father was.
EmeRgencyDrD
Fuck Israel! Fuck USA!
tautaula
I live in one of those places and agree with you. :(
NotAMorningPerson
Like Russia and Çhina did anything after the first bombing. You are delusional.
EroticZombiePants
I keep saying this: We need to stop saying everything is just a distraction from the Epstein Files. Otherwise, in a few years from now, there's going to be millions of Americans sitting in concentration camps going "Wow, the Epstein Files sure must be serious for them to cancel all elections, burn the Constitution, and throw us all here for voting for Harris."
ImNotActuallyEvilAfterAll
It's just normal global powerplay, reduce chinese access to iran's oil and soforth. Many reasons to play.
ArgentXero
Israel was threatening to nuke Iran of the US wasn't going to bomb it.
Dem leadership dont want to vote on this so they're hoping Trump does this without their consent.
Everything the US is doing isnt because of Trump, it's everything they've BEEN wanting to do for years and are using Trump to do it because YOLO in an attempt to grab anything on the way down.
Venezuela, Iran, Cuba, Taiwan, Greenland.
The only one not being touched is DPRK because of it's nuclear deterrence investment.
Freyja33
Exactly
AgamemnonsMemes
I thought it would be the Water Wars but i guess we're doing one more middle eastern oil war first.
InTangier
This fucking shit needs to be more widely known. The protests, apparently a follow-up of the first wave of protests a couple of years back, are suddenly sporting the Shah's flags. All signs point to a color revolution, especially when Reza is aligned with Israel and the US.
Stop looking at US internal micropolitics for a bit and watch your country's movements abroad, this shit is getting *very* dangerous. Even Democrat Zionist hawks are fine with this shit. I do hope China makes a blockade.
feelymcfeel
The UK needs to ensure airbases on UK soil are not used as staging posts for any action against Iran.
MrStealUrMeme
Didn't they already come out and say that?
thedarkcanuck
Amazing how the US can just go ahead and invade whoever the fuck it wants and nobody can do anything about it
CraftyGiant
ICE has more money than the entire russian military.
The Marines have more funding than the entire Russian military.
China doesn't want to stop us because if we do things like this, it's far more likely they will get away with doing the same or worse to Taiwan.
WaxedApple
The people of Iran may not be fans of the current ruling regime, but that doesn't mean they want an Israeli puppet dictator installed with US help. The US, unfortunately, regards every dispute in the world as an opportunity to get their people put into power. And sometimes if there isnt a dispute, they'll help create one as pretext
Freyja33
exactly
Hookie1
pizza index not showing much
Pluto87
The only person trying to not fearmonger and you get downvoted. Crazy...
Sun will still rise tomorrow.
Meanwhile we got people over here going "everything I don't like is just like Hitler".
Have a good one Hookie
rusty42marlin
Pizza index late night at 6:30 was at 150% above average. Something is going to happen.
CraftyGiant
Troops were fed steak and lobster.
m0nkeymagic
EVERY PERSON THAT COULD VOTE IN AMERICA BUT DIDN’T CAN GO FUCK THEMSELVES.
-the rest of the world.
OriginalAndWitty
Careful with that mindset, easy to blame people for not showing up when they physically couldn't, or the machines deleted their vote, or false votes were cast, or other ways the GOP clearly rigged the election.
Cptbluebeard7
There were still a massive amount who vocally chose not to, and they are just as culpable as those who directly voted for this, if not worse.
IfILikeYourJokeITellYou
MOTHER FUCKER
Elinialesnicknamehasbeentakenandthatsucks
Calm down with the fear mongering. WWIII hasn't been kicked off by all the conflicts that happened up until now and I doubt this will be the reason why it does. Russia is stuck in Ukraine and can't afford another war. China has nothing to gain in outright conflict with the US and it's more likely the US will continue to weaken and isolate itself both domestically and internationally. Is this a total shit show? Yes. Will it cause the end of the world? Likely no.
EroticZombiePants
This might not be it, but there's an increasingly realistic possibility something Trump or someone in his administration says or does will be the Franz Ferdinand moment that snowballs into WW3, and WW3 will end with nukes flying, and that will basically cause a mass extinction event on our planet.
crateo
There is absolutely no way that neither China nor Rusia will do anything more than a strong worded letter.
No one gives a fuck about Iran, and China in particular couldn't be happier than letting the US start another neverending war.
DVSBSTrD
@OP It's not for Israel, it's because Trump is loosing support with conservative voters.
TheAmazingBlahaj
It's always for Israel. Netanyahu has been walking around with a massive boner ever since the build-up, when Trump sent roughly 12 percent of its naval capacity to the Arabian Sea. Unless you're going to claim here and now that 65% of the US Congress hasn't received funding from AIPAC.
Freyja33
It is 100% definitely for Israel. I'm sure he'll use it for propaganda with them too, but this would not be happening if Netanyahu (and others) weren't aggressively pushing for it to happen.
patintedhuman
And you said lefties were crazy when we said he'd start WW3
qtRaven
BrdCdn
Claiming this will start WW3 is nonsense. China and Russia have no formal defensive alliances with Iran and certainly won't go to war over it. I'd be in favour of strikes in the Iranian regime to help the people but I certainly wouldn't trust Trump to do the right thing.
Freyja33
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20260129-iran-china-and-russia-sign-trilateral-strategic-pact/
livingonagiantfireball
China and i dia wont stick their neck out for iran, this is fearmongering
Freyja33
I mean *I* didn't say that was crazy, but I'm sure there were people who did
InTangier
The funny part is, when there are actual conspiracies coming to light, dude just sits on his thumbs and rants about how he would suck Bill Clinton's cock for national security or some shit. Seems conspiracies are only interesting when they exist in his addled brain.
decurser
dont worry, it's nick fuentes just doin nazi stuff now. AJ's face is firmly planted between the buttcheeks of the regime now
DVSBSTrD
BumbleDee128
Do you mean the b*+ch who didn’t warn us about the files? We literally had an election between two people from the files, she is not blameless.
DerpMeister
It's crazy to think that Russia or China will go to war over Iran. Protest? Yes. War? Hell no.
spiceass9000
Ya Russia is basically tapped out cause of Ukraine. And China just doesn’t care. They’ll use the distraction to take Taiwan or something
EroticZombiePants
They won't go to war for Iran. They'll use it as an excuse to invade Poland and Taiwan. The end result is still the same: Trump kickstarted WW3 and billions will die from or after the nuclear war.
Razade
You...you really think Russia would be insane enough to start another front and against Poland of all fucking places? Really? Poland, one of the strongest military forces in Europe who have been preparing for just such an occasions since Crimea was annexed? That Poland? The Poland that would absolutely trigger Article 5? That Poland?
Please.
DonRudolf
yes yes sure thing grandma, now let’s get you to bed
DerpMeister
HAHAHAH! Poland? You think today's Russia can invade fucking POLAND? You're either terribly misinformed or outright delusional. If Poland were to decide to invade Russia - even completely alone - they'd be laying siege to Moscow within a month. Russia's conventional military is spend.
InboxMeYourHDGIFs
Poland spends ~4.1% of it's annual GDP on defense, which is technically a higher percentage than the US at ~3.4%. Obviously, their GDP is much smaller, but they're no slouch when it comes to military spending. So yeah, considering how militarized Poland is, and how much trouble Russia had against Ukraine, Poland will walk all over them. Especially with a fresh Poland and an exhausted Russia that still has a ton of soldiers tied down in Ukraine.
wurth
For what it's worth, this is more likely to be a massive bombing campaign, since we haven't heard reports of ground weaponry being shipped over
Freyja33
A.) is that supposed to be better? B.) it might start that way, but it absolutely will not end that way. If they actually want to control Iran in any kind of meaningful way ground operations will be 100% necessary. Iran is a huge country with lots of places to hide and plan insurgency. Think about how tough it was for the USA to hold Iraq, and then remember there are nearly twice as many people in Iran. And unlike Iraq, they have many powerful allies, so this could easily become a global war.
RElGNMAN
A. There could be much worse situations but your A. reply is very passive aggressive to someone just saying their thoughts out loud.
B. Okay? They bombed the nuclear site’s last year and did they ground invade afterwards? No.
Honestly it’s a distraction from all the bad news and polls Trump is reaping for being the idiot in Chief that he is today.
michiyl
Why wouldn't you move your ground forces along with air forces? Why wait for resistance to form after your airstrikes? Doesn't make sense.
Freyja33
I think they probably will start with a combined air/ground assault for that exact reason, but I think the person I was responding to was perhaps expecting something similar to past US/Israeli attacks on Iran, which have primarily been limited airstrikes on specific targets with the goal of getting the Iranian government to just surrender. I don't think that's what's going to happen this time though, because they already tried that and it didn't succeed.
randomwalrus
Because those in charge currently are brain-dead goons, who think they know better than the generals who "advise" them.
Felberin
On the other hand, It's not like those ordering this are competent or thinks ahead. So, it would totally be believable that Trump believes that another surgical strike that kills the head of state just fixed the problems in the country and they'll be happy and liberated like Venezuelans (/s, just in case). I'm sure some of the generals there tried to bring up a point that they also needs to stabilize the country, after.But that sounds like expensive,and problem for later, so Trump's ignoring it.
Freyja33
I could see that, but I think they're moving too much ordinance over there for this to just be a bombing run. From everything I have seen they seem to be preparing for a real full-throated invasion.
wasiteverreal
Meh it won’t be ww3. People been saying that for years
fubizdaddie
"People have been saying that for a long time so it won't happen" is the single most daft take there is here. Legitimately, absolute peak daft. What people have been saying or how long they've been saying it means ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. The facts of the situation do. If you can't process the details of the current situation, stay silent, but basing predictions of the future on what others have been saying is a truly shocking level of daft. Like, "gambling partnerships will help the news" daft.
wasiteverreal
Everything you’ve said is exactly what everyone says in this situation. Ignorant fearmongering.
The only reason for this huge military movement is to distract from presidential scandal. This has happened countless times.
Don’t reply now. Bookmark this and reply back in 6 months when you were wrong and the world isn’t at war if this matter
PrincessBatCat
Everyone seems to be making assumptions like they have experience being a military general, based on less than half the full picture.
If this gets as bad as people fear, there is absolutely nothing we can do about it. Keep focus on the files and don't let people get distracted.
Freyja33
It won't necessarily be, but it's way closer than we've come in years. China really can't afford to let Iran fall to Western Powers. This is a moment of push coming to shove, and I think people should be aware that global war and nuclear war are both potentially on the table if a US invasion takes place.
wasiteverreal
Meh, same shit different situation.
ElbowDeepInAPoliceState
What can China actually do about it, though? They don't have many options for coming to the aid of Iran. They lack the ability to project meaningful force via their navy, and that's before you factor in the need to fight through the USN for their ships to reach Iran. They don't share a land border, so any troop movements would require securing permission from Afghanistan or Pakistan (both not too likely to want to be party to a war against the US) or overland through Russian and then across
ElbowDeepInAPoliceState
The Caspian sea, which is a much longer route, which in turn puts some fairly sharp limits on the amount of force they can project (and once again assumes Russia is willing to be party to a shooting war w/the USA). So the other military option for China is that they use a war w/Iran as a pretext for an invasion of Taiwan... which runs a high risk of starting a WW3 that *at best* (for China) ends in a pyrric victory, and more likely ends in a white peace.
ElbowDeepInAPoliceState
While the ground portion of the Gulf War was preceeded by a month of airstrikes, the buildup of ground forced began six months before that. I don't think it's very likely that the US is planning on an invasion, I'd bet they're convinced an intense air campaign alongside commando raids and uprising by the US-supported rebels groups will do the trick.
Re: occupation of Iraq: The US was never at risk of military defeat by the insurgency, nor did the insurgency seek to militarily defeat the 1/
ElbowDeepInAPoliceState
2/ occupation forces or even the (new) Iraqi government. They lacked the means to do either of those things and they knew it, that's why they fought as an insurgency. Insurgencies seek victory by wearing away the will of their opponents (both political will to oppose them and social will to support the government) - the purpose of their violence isn't to produce tactical or strategic effects, instead its purpose is to send a message. Contrast this against a hybrid or guerrilla war, where
ElbowDeepInAPoliceState
3/ the purpose of the guerrillas violence is ultimately to produce a military situation favourable to their return to open warfare (ex the Vietnam war or the communists in the Chinese Civil war). In an invasion of Iran you'd likely be looking at guerrillas aiming to affect a military defeat of the invasion, at least at first, though if they failed to achieve that then a transition to insurgency would probably occur - the cinsequence of which would be most of the violence being directed at
ElbowDeepInAPoliceState
4/ Iranian civilians instead of foreign military.