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amatte
Sitation needed
sadurdaynight
Every article about some amazing kid stsrting their own business is same. Parents are actually the business folks.
Ghaka47
literallymike
Zero such thing a self made anybody.
MrTheFavs
Behind every great fortune lies a great crime.
ColorMeAnxious
My dad was a typesetter, placing down each letter one at a time for the printing press. Now I can use Word like a boss.
YouTubeRed
aQuantumofAnarchy
https://www.currentaffairs.org/2021/01/how-billionaires-see-themselves Current Affairs did an illuminating review of billionaire memoirs.
Originaltec
Nobody is self made, somewhere along the way someone did something that helped. It may seemed small but it made all the difference
Tarmaccian
This. It’s also interesting to note we don’t talk about the rich heirs that failed. Class mobility is possible, but takes money and luck.
ctriis87
Gotta give them all credit for being incredibly lucky and privileged though.
LoudAngryJerk
I think they missed the sarcasm
HeShallKnowYourWaysAsIfBornToThem
The Bill Gates one is false. She was on the board of the United Way, along with an IBM executive, and eventually allowed MS to compete 4 DOS
Darkklown14
In Buffets case, he was running business as a kid before Dad became congressman. He prob is most “self made” out of the group,
meauho
He bought a farm when he was 14 to start his financial empire & dad owned an investment firm where Warren managed large accts.
BethGaGaShaggyAReligionNotACult
Behind the Bastards has a super series on Bill Gates and the advantages he had to start MS. They were many, among them stealing IBM IP.
uhuhuuhuuuuAahAaaaaahAAAAAAAh
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Strangeboke
I'm going to level with you I really don't care about IBM's shit getting rocked.
AgnosticPaladin
Worst thing about MS is not the theft of "intellectual property", it was the cheating and strongarming OEM's into forcing Windows on people.
shankelstoff
Ol' Billy G also basically stole Linux stuff to make his own OS. Not very classy.
Tarmaccian
To… what? Windows’ foundations are all 1980s tech. Linux didn’t start until 1991. Stealing anything after that wouldn’t have been a profit.
abraxa
Which linux stuff, exactly? Microsoft did use the FreeBSD TCP/IP stack but that's under a liberal license and allows this usage.
abraxa
https://betanews.com/2001/06/18/microsoft-we-use-freebsd/
thinkybrainpains
the #1 cause of being rich is to be born into it. Some are 4th-5th generation rich. just by chance of birth, NOT hard work
oldnumber6
A lot of parents own companies or are wealthy and their kids don't turn out billionaires.
Xalaqia
Not the point.
oldnumber6
If someone gave me $300k I couldn't turn it in to billions. I doubt you could either.
orangebicx
Though bezos started the company and about a year or so later it was going down and his parents gave him the 300k
Herefortheboos
Yes. That's the point. Money gives you the option to "fail" long enough to succeed.
sDsnAlien
If i start a company, will you give me 300k?
ihaveapunningclan
Is it the next amazon? If so, absolutely.
DinoRodeo
How are you going to know ahead of time that it's the next Amazon?
NorthCountryCrone
His wife's parents pitched in another 240K,
mastodonj
If my company was failing, none of my family could afford to bail me out for 30K never mind 300K. The point remains the same.
TheDouche
While I hate Amazon, growing it from $300k is pretty much self-made. That’s not that much money.
blerghcity
I started a small business 4 yrs ago with no capital and let me tell you man if I had 300k at the get go I'd be so much further ahead now
Demenster
Hw kept getting money because Amazon didn't turn a profit for 10 years. Thats an extreme barrier unless you're rich.
PballQhead
IIRC he used the $300k to get established enough to rope in like $30M in venture capital cash, back when VCs were throwing $ around
Phoelixx
For the vast majority of people in this world, 300k is a LOT of money. Doubly so if it’s money you were just… given. For free.
PballQhead
Like it or not, in America that's upper middle class - it wasn't a spare $245,573, it was literally their life savings.
PballQhead
I wasn't "given for free", it was a buy-in of 1% of the company. It's just a fact, but I'm sure I'll get accused of being a Stan or some ish
aThingWithTheStufAndTheJunk
IBM was already a Microsoft customer. Microsoft built MS-DOS on request for IBM. MS-BASIC was way more popular than IBM's version, and 1/
aThingWithTheStufAndTheJunk
they were bringing in all of MS's languages. They tried to use CP/M but DRI wouldn't play ball on the contract, so IBM went to MS and 2/
aThingWithTheStufAndTheJunk
asked for a replacement. The CEO, upon hearing that Microsoft was making their new OS, was like, "Oh, that's Mary's son." But the 3/
aThingWithTheStufAndTheJunk
deal had already been made. Thing to remember for Bill Gates is not that his mom knew someone. It's that he already had $1 million of 4/
aThingWithTheStufAndTheJunk
his own money from a trust fund in high school. He could basically do whatever he wanted and happened to be quite good with computers.
ADegenFromUpcountry
nakri4700
lots of valid complaints about him but the mine was in zambia so not apartheid (he is still a shitty person by any measure)
ADegenFromUpcountry
I didn’t mention mines or apartheid, but I’ll wholeheartedly agree with you that he’s the textbook definition of a shitty person
PeterNormal
Even just having the financial freedom to not starve to death while creating a company is HUGE... "started in a garage"...
PeterNormal
sounds scrappy, but like... HAVING a garage to start in is a giant pile of privilege
TheoFromSteam
And Bezos company was flopping too, by all accounts. He had a "small" investment from his parents akin to half a million in today's cash.
duoplicity
My teacher in college owned a print shop in Cal & some guy asked if he'd accept stock in exchange for printing... he said no to Wozniak
DaveSamsonite
Like the John Kerry swift boating story no doubt. Told it so many times he thought it was true…
DaveSamsonite
Wozniak could verify this story if it was true. He’s not the type to forget anything related to wasting that stock.
Leithoa
Future returns don't pay current bills
nickjam275
Some guy at a house party I was at offered me 50 bitcoin for the slippers I was wearing... I turned him down ??
iCameWheniHeardYouBeatTheEliteFour
To be fair, he'd have to blindly hold that stock through some real low points to make the big bucks.
brianglass10
There are a lot of stories like that, for all sorts of companies…
DaveSamsonite
Not for Apple there aren’t. Woz sold all his stock early and missed out on a huge windfall.
DaveSamsonite
He didn’t use it to buy groceries. He sold out for what felt like a fair price to him, at the time - he was not a true believer.
brianglass10
My boss turned down a trade of architectural services for stock, from Herb Kelleher, when he was starting American Airlines.
ObliqueRay
On the other side of that coin I've been offered stock I said no to, which a decade later has gone nowhere. So don't feel too bad.
newsguycraigevans
Same
Seethreepeeoh
I recommend reading "The Element" by Ken Robinson. There is much more to the stories than just the sentences beside the image.
SJohnson23
There is but at the same time, that’s like saying to someone that anybody can be the best basketball player when they’re 5’6”.
SithElephant
As one example, Musk was estranged from his parents, and at one point working cleaning out silos in the US, with no support from them. His
SithElephant
company did not get any meaningful investment from his parents initially, and was at the 'shared computer doing dev work and production'
SithElephant
His parents were well-off. But they were 1%, not 0.01%.
SithElephant
He got comedically lucky going from $20Kish initial investment in the .com boom to $100M at its end (when he cashed out of paypal).
Cthulhuonabike
Muggsy Bogues was only 5'3"
Seethreepeeoh
Without spoilers, yes - that is a central theme in the book.
SJohnson23
It is of course technically true but it’s very much in the category of “Adolf Hitler killed the man most responsible for WWII” bizarro takes
Seethreepeeoh
Thanks for the input Mike Godwin, good to have you on board.
henryvk
Afaik there is no hard evidence that Ma Gates convinced IBM to license MS DOS, but it's not impossible either.
ZeroLogain
She got him through the door with a positive endorsement, she didn't twist their arm to do it. Opportunity he never would have otherwise had
meauho
The claim came from Opel, IBM's Chairman, in a Seattle Times interview where he referred to MS's start with IBM as "Mary's son's company"
henryvk
But the context is also important. Like, it was an either or between CPM and DOS, not like they picked MS over dozens of competitors >>
henryvk
but it's not unrealistic that a board member nudges the devs in the direction of a certain product.
CountFistula
Yeah I've never heard that either. His parents definitely helped his success, but him being a greedy dickhead helped too.
meauho
Jon Opel, IBM Chairman, told the story in a Seattle Times interview about how MS got its start. Referred to MS as "Mary's son's company"
meauho
Story is from the mid-1990s
Noughmad
There's billions more greedy dickheads than billionaires.
adiving
Not entirely sure what your point is there.
CountFistula
Yeah, but he's a greedy dickhead who grew up with fuck you money and a natural talent for software engineering
preparationh67
And parents who got him early computer access at a time when that was a massive deal.
JustinBauer
Let's not mention that the Musk emerald mine is worked primarily by slaves the whole time Elon was growing up
unknownmale
so credit for him to not follow in their footsteps
JustinBauer
You know he does not run it. It is ran by a separate company that still uses slaves, it is set up to where he isn't directly part of it
TheoFromSteam
Legally he can't, but he still has factories where his workers are literally dropping on the ground from exhaustion. Legally, he can't...
jammer909
Gates is probably the only one on that list that I don't hate. He's done enough charity work over the years, and he shuts up.
ProfessionalHugDealer
His charity foundation is just another grift to make more money. The BMGF put pressure on Oxford not to release their covid vaxx- instead >
ProfessionalHugDealer
getting the rights sold to AsterZeneca, which became a vaxx sold for profit. It's a grift, billionaires can only ever grift
CGWN
You hate Buffett?
AoShin
Stole software from competitors? Check. Was a bastard to employees? Check. Fights against Taxes? Double check! Billionaires give to......
AoShin
charity, because its significantly cheaper than paying taxes, and gives them a lot of good will from the public. Despite the fact that.....
AoShin
What they give to charity is a fraction of what they should pay in tax. Give 10 billion to schools? Well maybe....
AoShin
if he paid a fair amount of taxes, schools wouldnt have to rely on charity.
SJohnson23
You forgot sexually harassed employees to the point where the board stepped in.
Noughmad
Oh, I hate him a lot. The entire software ecosystem would be decade ahead by now if it wasn't for him.
LonelyHumanBoy
This also boils over to other industries like gaming too. Microsofts greedy policies paved the way for microtransactions.
Noughmad
I blame mobile games for this more, along with the app monetization model. Which mostly goes back to another software billionaire.
NothingPrince
I like Gates.
The701
Bezos:
The701
(2020: Bezos sold $10 billion of stock. My math for the volume of a $100 bill vs that of a 53' trailer says that it'd hold about $10B.)
The701
The701
https://mkorostoff.github.io/1-pixel-wealth
TheDandyMan0
Self made just means not inherited, like they actually had to start their businesses.
jonsnowme
When you use mama and dada's money you're technically inheriting their money and using it to start a business idk what's hard to grasp
AoShin
Easy to start a business when your mom gives you business contracts, or your parents pay 300k+ to start it.
TheDandyMan0
Yea but admittedly a lot easier to just inherit a billion dollar fortune
yallmfsneedjesus
Yea. Thats what parents do dude. They give you what they can. Its up to you to make the best life with it. There are plenty of rich kids who
yallmfsneedjesus
..were given more are are fuck ups. These guys created ridiculously successful businesses. Why hate then just because their parents were..
yallmfsneedjesus
..also successful and decided to help their kid? You see this at every level. Autobody shops that are in families for years, restaurants...
yallmfsneedjesus
..its the same. No one gets anywhere in life without nepotism and help from others.
stevencloser
https://www.ctpublic.org/education/2019-05-15/georgetown-study-wealth-not-ability-the-biggest-predictor-of-future-success
MarkSoupial
Even a self-made wealthy person still exploits the value laborers produce to accumulate that wealth.
iabductaliens11
Mark Cuban is my guy. A true self made billionaire.
Eleshar24
This is not about exploitation, but about the myths like "self-made" or "pulling oneself by own bootstraps". They are all lies.
anengineerandacat
Yep, no one will be truly self-made; takes too long. You'll receive funding at some part of that growth cycle.
Eleshar24
Getting funding is okay. Getting funding w/o strings attached from family's generational wealth? Defo not self-made.
SpicyPeanuts27
Ah yes the American dream
typeIIIb
Well, not always. Like, kind of a lot of the time, but not literally always lol
AsAHistorian
I disagree. Even the concept of profit is just "getting more out of an exchange than you put into it," which is inherently exploitative.
redmangc
My brain always goes to entertainers, lots of rich ones are as close to self made as possibly. And don't start a Semantics war with me
Lisatth
This exactly. There is no self made wealth. All wealth is that which is stolen from the bloodied backs of workers. Wealth itself is unjust
Sinodio
not inherently, just most of the time. If Jim Jones discovers the secret for clean, safe, producive fusion energy he has every moral right
Sinodio
to sell that to governments for billions of dollars, since his contribution will save A LOT more than that down the line.
khora
Yeah, down with Dolly Parton!
areweprophets
There is no such thing as compassionate capitalism. Even the “good” ones who give away vast amounts of $ still profit via exploitation.
Breadfordloaves
It can be, but that's not the only way wealth can accumulate. Ex: increased productivity expands the pie, the question is just distribution.
Clarysage
So, have rich parents. Got it.
narcoleptiKnickers
If you have the right lines and curves you can marry into wealth.
YouTubeRed
newsguycraigevans
Step 1 to hitting a home run in life - Be born on third base.
bigbadgrizzly
Be born with someone else already running to fourth base. Then claim you ran and batted a home run.
takingupspace
In this analogy, I must've been born in the parking lot.
olafthrig
Lol I was born on a couch at home.
yallmfsneedjesus
Yes and no. They still took what was given to them and created massive success with it. There are far more rich kids who were given more and
yallmfsneedjesus
..did nothing, are nothing. That kind if wealth is difficult to build in one generation. Go back 1 or 2 and their grandparents may have
yallmfsneedjesus
..started with nothing. You give what you can to your kids so they have a better life than you. Too many parents are just like "screw you..
yallmfsneedjesus
..kid. i had to make MY own way. You have to too." There is notbing wrong with accepting gifts from your parents and using it.
Clarysage
So what you're saying is try to have rich parents.
INeverReadTheTOS
Musk's weird fans will insist that his dad didn't own an emerald mine but the only evidence of that is Musk's own word.
Zickezacke
I'm not a Musk fan but it do not work that way. You claim something you prove it.
Serenitis
Cleverwhatever
He's making humanity interplanetary which is more than most. People like to bag on him for being ultra rich but you need money toget to Mars
JPminer814
Musk days his family owned an emerald mine. Where did he said he didn't?
iCurse
I've read stories about his dad being as much of a compulsive liar as Elon and making up the mine thing, but I haven't seen sources for
NoOneGivesAShit
So what's the evidence that he did?
PervertedTango
The fastest way to get rich is not by working. It's to make others work for you.
meauho
And the evidence against it is Musk's own father saying he did & being extremely wealthy
meauho
https://www.businessinsider.co.za/elon-musk-sells-the-family-emeralds-in-new-york-2018-2
RulesOfImgur
Yeah he only invented 10,000 from what I have found. Yeah that's a lot and I get it but elon got rich off of luck and manipulating his fans.
RulesOfImgur
Invested* I'm not a fan boy, I'm a factboy. I have a love-hate-relationship with musk. We need him for a sustainable future, but fuck him.
CabNumber1729
Elon is a dick like any other billionaire. But I gotta admit, I fuckin love some of his projects
OneShot510
Oh? Have you met him?
Tovarish1013
To be fair, evidence for a claim should be presented by the claimer.
JohnSmithterms
It was in Zambia https://www.businessinsider.co.za/how-elon-musks-family-came-to-own-an-emerald-mine-2018-2
preparationh67
These people have at minimum "fuck around with a gemstone mine" money and morons still be like "nah he space daddy"
Bossco20
They deny the mine had anything to do with his success
BigRobbo
He didn't own it... it was a proxy holding via a company in the Cayman Islands. Totally different
Gehennan
It was half an emerald mine in Zambia, not an entire emerald mine in Apartheid South Africa. So, not really much better.
BethGaGaShaggyAReligionNotACult
Apparently Elon Musk's favourite all-time movie: Romancing the Stone.
jessika95ve
RobJenkins
khora
And that it was in Zambia and not in South Africa.
N0S4A2
Which is kinda important, that is like calling a Texan a Mexican; oh wait a minute.
Krembananen
Elon Musk has great effect on weak minds - very much like Joe Rogan.
MakimasFavoriteTie
So does being a contrarian, or virtue signaling, or being rude. All lower IQ moments
IconicM
So you have actual proof his dad did own an entire emerald mine?
JustFeedMePieDammit
Couldn’t wash that stain out with apar-tide-pods
Zokalwe
Your platform only launches depression, who put the elf with no friends in charge of human connection?!?
JustAGeek16
Who won? Who's next? You decide!
CheesecakePi
Wrong way around. And seriously, screw Elon, but his dad is the one who's claimed he owned an emerald mine, but has never backed it up /1
CheesecakePi
with any evidence or anyone who can corroborate it, and others have contradicted him and said he made it up. Yes, he was undoubtedly rich /2
CheesecakePi
but there hasn't been anything (so far) to back up the part about the emerald mine. 3/3
EaNasirIsABastard
Weird flex.
damnokfine
https://www.businessinsider.co.za/how-elon-musks-family-came-to-own-an-emerald-mine-2018-2
SocoFox
"I'm rich because I owned an emerald mine." -The shit you say when the real reason is far more disgusting.
meauho
He actually said: "I'm rich because I own an emerald mine & meet with people in neutral locations for all cash transactions & didn't put the
spLagger
they also jump on the wagon he invented everything, lol. Gotta give him credit that he was in the right place right time though.
depressedscientist
So he’s a modern day Edison. Lol
jessika95ve
Don't forget he also was with money and contacts.
SilverHornet
Which are the more important factors.
VirtualNaut
That’s explains it all. I was always curious why he doesn’t wear glasses.
Mr21782Man
And screwing over those contacts at every turn.
gdex86
Being the guy who knows how to sell a great new idea is important. But Musk isn't treated as a marketing genius but as if he's reed richards
jessika95ve
His PR Team literally sold him as a Tony Stark but he's more than a Justin Hammer.
agonarch
He's not even a Justin Hammer (a genuinely intelligent engineer, if obviously inferior to Stark), he's a Thomas Edison.
khora
I’ve never seen anyone claim he invented anything.
AreYouABadPerson
There was some idiot on this very website claiming he was the smartest person in the world. I was in awe of such delusion.
MagnorCriol
I’ve seen lots of people claim exactly that.
khora
Should be easy to point one out then.
MagnorCriol
Oh yeah because I make a habit of saving Elon fanboy emissions. No thanks. https://i.imgur.com/KAnv8tD
IAmLookingForSomeoneToShareInAnAdventure
I've heard he invented PayPal loads of times. And that he started Tesla
khora
It's not an invention.
uhuhuuhuuuuAahAaaaaahAAAAAAAh
What's your point dude
spLagger
People think he invented PayPal and Tesla among other things, he did not.
Fnogg
https://www.cnbc.com/2015/11/13/elon-musks-10-greatest-inventions-changing-the-world.html
Fnogg
Zip2 seems to have been his idea and he apparently did code Blastar (a game) when he was 12 or something.But saying he 'invented' SpaceX 1/
Fnogg
Paypal, Hyperloop, or Tesla is a stretch 2/2
khora
Thanks!
certainlynotaserialkiller
well, there is no proof his dad owned it, but he was holding a high office and did very well as those positions always do.
jessika95ve
Afaik actually there's proof about his dad owned a share of a mine. Anyway, they were a very very rich (white) family in the SA apartheid.
certainlynotaserialkiller
having a minorty share is normal in any company for top emplyees, but that is far from "owning" it.
jessika95ve
Yeah, having stocks in an African mine is not a big deal after all /s. Anyway, they were VERY rich. Elon's High School seems an Ivy College.
certainlynotaserialkiller
show me any big company in america where shares are not a way to subsizide salaries to top employees.
omniblastomni
“Waterkloof House Preparatory School and Bryanston High School before graduating from Pretoria Boys High School.” Isn’t Ivy League in Africa
MrRogersNeighborhood
Why do people have such a hardon for him?
ScottishRoss
He's pushing the correct narrative of "Futurist". It's clever marketing. Probably how people viewed.Ford back in the day.
PTNLemay
Imgur is very left leaning, and he's been spreading a lot of "Don't tax the rich" sentiment on twitter.
SwadeWilson
Bc he was in iron man 2
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
The tech is very real and he could've invested in safer ventures. I just wish he'd grow out of that 4chan personality.
kerrigan778
He has brought about a lot of cool progress. It was never by any means all him but he was still instrumental in driving forward....
kerrigan778
The electric vehicle and space launch industries.
kerrigan778
He's still properly nuts and an arrogant ass.
IconicM
Hate-boner is the word you want. Mention a billionaire anywhere and hordes of anti-Muskers will show up to claim he's the literal devil.
Rhythmaster
Because the bar is so low. Unlike the scumbag Koch coal and oil billionaires, he is scumbag electric car billionaire, it's slightly better..
Rhythmaster
We were just so starved of anyone rich that even tried anything to advance alternative energy, I guess. So used to the rich shutting down
Rhythmaster
That conversation to protect their oil money, so when a rich asshole actually willing to say positive things about electric cars, it seemed
Rhythmaster
Like he was one of the good guys, even thought he's still an exploitative rich asshole.
KafkasKarma
Hope
mymustachecallstheshots
He developed a premium electric car company when the capitolist world was fighting it. Got eco brownie points and its been rose tint since
SkamanSam
I like some of his stuff, but you don't get to be a (sustained) billionaire without stepping on people.
JayEnfield
For myself, he's a marketing guy who claims to be an inventor. Rubs me the wrong way, same as Steve Jobs.
JayEnfield
I have no grief with acknowledging that marketing X or building company Y is impressive. But the fanboyism on his bullshit is THE WORST.
JayEnfield
Especially with the concepts that have absolutely no basis in reality or no means of being delivered, being lapped up by the tech columns.
ButteredNoodleDriver
But if we build a giant tube under this swamp, we can put even more cars into it!
michaeloberg
He is tackling global issues: electric cars, low cost to orbit, mass transit (boring tech, Hyperloop), global internet
michaeloberg
Oh, and AI
AreYouABadPerson
Nyah. He's funding ego projects to jerk off about, nothing more.
michaeloberg
Tesla cars are real, SpaceX actually sends things into orbit, starlink has 100,000 customers, etc etc. WTF is wrong with you
kerms
Because he's a memelord internet guy like them, but successful.
jaijaikali
Tesla.
TexMexHex
Well, he didnt have hair, and now he does?
JohnSmithterms
He owned a mine in Zambia. I like Elon. I want the laws changed so that billionaires pay higher taxes. It's not his fault.
borkmeister
He's campaigning pretty hard against those laws and brags about using tax loopholes..
JohnSmithterms
I like Elon. I want the laws changed so that billionaires pay higher taxes. It's not his fault.
borkmeister
Let me rephrase - Elon is vocal in his fight against the higher taxes you want him to pay. He supports the status quo.
SentientSpork
I think people mistake him for a "Tony Stark," but at the same time it IS non-trivial to shepherd such big leaps to full implementation.
SentientSpork
Before anyone jumps down my throught: I admire that "sheparding" skillset bc I'm trying to grow my own, he's still an obnoxious brat.
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Krembananen
MB is rolling out level 3 autonomous driving before Tesla. If you stop listening to the cult you'll see that Tesla is already lagging behind
grklein
VW is expected to surpass Tesla's production very soon, and most other big automakers are investing heavily in electric vehicles.
DarkUranium
You do realize that Musk isn't the founder of Tesla, right? He literally bought the right to call himself that. (1/?)
DarkUranium
This means that starting an EV company wasn't his idea. Tesla would have existed with or without Musk --- and *did* exist without him. (2/2)
tanebot
Out of all the dickish entrepreneurs with too much money, he's the only one who's literally rebooted aerospace AND the EV industry.
tanebot
I don't care how much was his personal work, even just coordinating others' time and investment to achieve that is worth a lot.
mikeatike
Yeah, but why do you worship the ground he walks on?
MixMasterMike
borkmeister
Yeah no, SpaceX is great but aerospace is WAY bigger than rockets. Elon did not "reboot" aerospace lol.
CiaranMcHale
SpaceX has: created reusable rockets; decreased the cost of getting to space by an order of magnitude; created a slimline spacesuit; ...
CiaranMcHale
and created a significantly roomier capsule; deployed 1600+ satellites for Starlink (that's what I can remember from the top of my head.)
borkmeister
You didn't read my comment - I said SpaceX is great. Their rockets are a game changer. The aerospace industry is huge though, and building->
wellembalmed
He has a certain, musk....
Ilikestealingdadjokes
mentallychallengeaccepted
Ol' musky
HamshanksCPS
Elon's Musk
brndrll
From Calvin Klein.
BenjaminMu
Imgur has had one of the biggest hard-ons for him ever. Most down voted comment of mine was suggesting he isn't the messiah.
CiaranMcHale
The average person on Imgur is pretty average in terms of having biases and being willing to voice/endorse ignorant opinions. So, yes, you
CiaranMcHale
are likely to get extreme approval/disapproval if you say something about a well-known, controversial person. Such reactions are not limited
CiaranMcHale
to Musk. For example, I happen to think that Trump is A Bad Person for many reasons, but occasionally people will post factually incorrect
TheSonAndHeirOfNothingInParticular
He portrays himself as a real-life Tony Stark, a futurist who sees what is coming and can help us deal with it. They love that fantasy.
HamshanksCPS
Funny thing about that, is that he's in Iron Man 2. Even in a world where a billionaire uses his money to make a super suit to save the 1/2
HamshanksCPS
World, Elon is still just a rich douchebag 2/2
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CityYeti
Technically only half, but that still payed for yachts, skiing trips, and other luxuries
sh3nhu
This is my favorite excuse. As if there is a meaningful difference between half and all of an emerald mine in an apartheid state.
IconicM
I own like 1.5 shares of Tesla stock. I must own Tesla!
sh3nhu
Woosh
IconicM
Half of one share.
CityYeti
No, a full half
IconicM
Citation needed. Hint: It's all based on his estranged dad making random conflicting claims.
CityYeti
https://www.businessinsider.co.za/how-elon-musks-family-came-to-own-an-emerald-mine-2018-2
CityYeti
Don't trust what a billionaire says. Elon has his own Behind the Bastards podcast 2 part episode
SP4x
This is my go-to when this crops up: https://savingjournalism.substack.com/p/i-talked-to-elon-musk-about-journalism
preparationh67
lol, this is a shit article bro.
preparationh67
The "see all bad stories about Elon are then obviously wrong now cause magic" bit at the end was my favorite part lmfao.
preparationh67
Seems like a convenient way to no longer pay any attention to all his abuse of workers is what Im getting at
IconicM
"Abuse" of workers... That he pays a living wage and who rate working at Tesla pretty favorably on Glassdoor.
CiaranMcHale
Thanks for the link. It made for interesting reading.