ObscuraNox
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Alright...
This may sound weird for those of you that live outside of germany, but more often than not people here will give you either the silent treatment, or will downright insult you if you mention stuff like "Im proud to be a german / live in germany"
The Worldcup...
is pretty much the only Time we are "allowed" to wave our own flag. Im not kidding. During the World Cup everyone is cool with showing off the flag, but as soon as its over? If you do something...
like this...
then depending in which area of germany you live in, people will look at you
Like this.
I think thats simply not fair. Yes, Germany did terrible things during World War 2. And yes, its by no means "perfect" to live here, the country got a fair amount of problems. However...
I think Germany is a beautiful Country
With an amazing landscape
Spätzle
And there are so many different kinds breads
Did you know that it would take over 2 Years to try every single bread out there, if you eat 1 Bread each day?
And we have a "Fest" for everything.
Like a Strawberry festivity for example.
Its just awesome.
...although the weather could be better sometimes.
With that being said, i dont want to make this post even longer than it already is. I just wanted to get this off my chest.
Ich finde es toll hier zu leben, und ich wünsch euch noch einen schönen Tag Imgur!
And if you happen to come across a few grammar mistakes, please forgive me.
864Davidrun
As a french I agree with all of this (could be nuanced on food ;-) Spent 2 y in Berlin, and some times around Munich. Love Germany too
ObscuraNox
On another side note, have you guys ever tried Feuerzangenbowle? Its a very sweet drink. Oh, and you set it on fire.
Rectunator
If I werent a Finn then I'd like to be a German. Germany is what makes studying history interesting. I thank you for that.
MIGHTYTALOS
Articulate, complementary, educated and slightly satirical this good sir is premium comment.
l8lurker
You forgot CAKES, CAKES everwhere, SO MANY CAKES CAKES! I want cake right now!
ObscuraNox
Oh dear, the german baked goods..so sweet. xD
cdm77
I am glad and happy to be german, to live here in peace and freedom... I am proud of myself and all I achieved but not proud of a country.
berlinson
Upvote for you, why anyone would be 'proud' to be a certain nationality is somewhat nonsencical.
EvenBetterCool
No one said you aren't allowed, if you're too self-cobscious , that's on you!
AnotherImgurianEnglishman
Enjoying what your country has to offer is fine, enjoying your country's culture and history is fine. Blind nationalism isn't.
intellectualwasteland
bibiyade
La* France :)
PsuPepperoni
was expecting this to be the top comment
ghsdkgb
Bullshit. Germany has the highest approval rating worldwide:
ObscuraNox
Yep, that pretty much sums it up xD
bibiyade
La* France :)
Lilalvin
I believe it is supposed to be le. I might be wrong though since ive been learning French for less than 2 years
msao
Yeah you are wrong, it is most certainly LA France. Source:been living there 18 years :p
ComeOnAndSlam
TwinMonkeys
Oh good lord please tell me that's not a real article.
ObscuraNox
When i posted this, i never expected so many comments. I cant answer all of them, so let me just say thx to all of you for the nice words :)
AlcoholicsAnonymousBYO
@Mersadeon makes an excellent point. Look at how mindless the USA has got in its patriotism.
ItsAlwaysTimeToDiddle
Skruvboll
Germany you're the pride of Europe and has been the glue to hold us together since the wall fell. Even if you won't admit it.
sweari2
Honestly I don't consider Germany the evil group behind the WW's, I only consider the Nazi party as the issue.
Zaelle
I know the feel, it's the same in France. People would spit in your face, if you dared to say you're proud of your country...
Zer0th
Really? In France? As a German, I've been a lot in France and I love that country, but I always had the feeling that they're proud.
obscuredreference
It's getting like that everywhere. The racists anti-patriotism want to do the same to every western country.
definatelynotatwork
Not even going to mention their beer, huh?
ObscuraNox
I totally forgot that xD
definatelynotatwork
BLASPHEMY!
scabab
or the invasion of poland?
Firestarterputterouter
As an wwii historian and a giant american patriot... there's a time and a place.
definatelynotatwork
lol who cares about Poland?
SimbaYouDeliberatelyDisobeyedMe
As an American with Jewish heritage, who saw his father cry for the first time at a Holocaust museum, I think you have every right to (1/2)
SimbaYouDeliberatelyDisobeyedMe
be proud of your country; you're not responsible for anyone else's actions
stormwarning
Don't worry about grammar mistakes, we aren't grammar Nazis... aannd I'll show myself out.
sbare
Wanted to comment something like this, found yours first.
YouCantKeepJetpackingAwayFromYourProblemsBrian
Ba-dum tss
Thisisahugemistake
+1
fremenfighter
"Excuse me sir, you need to leave the internet"
Goatfoot11
My face hurts from laughing at this.
BigBlueWonder
As a Dutch guy: we love you Germans! You are our nations big brother. We like to tease you, but we like you a lot! :)
broconno
I guess you forgot 1940 to 1945
atRderpson
its funny that whenever i am in the netherlands i got the feeling they understand my german but i dont understand their dutch
dakartro
We do learn basic German in school (something with trading history) , so most of us acualy can :)
tollylolly
Haha. Inderdaad . I agree with my fellow dutch guy
shithappenswhenyoupartynaked
It's like the US and Canada relationship, no one gets to bash Germany but us!
idrinkyourmilkshake44
We love you too Netherlands. When we're mean we are just envious about your open weed laws.
ObscuraNox
Thank you :D
SukhoiSuperjet
No we don't. Never forget '74
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SukhoiSuperjet
No wonder you like Germans so much, you have a sense of humour only a German can have.
kittenkisses
Awww it's like Canada and America
megodk
The Dutch like us? Weird, I always thought there was a massive rivalry
BigBlueWonder
It's like a small brother (we) and a big brother (you) who are competing against each other.
TheDutchie
This is true, we still can't beat you at football and it's annoying the crap out of us
TownsendV228
I imagine the relationship is similar to Australia and New Zealand, the United States and Canada, and England and Scotland.
tryingtoohard
N then scotland tried to take off. You wouldn't see Canada trying that anytime soo-wait...
elodinisadork
Only when there's football. Apart from that, we love you. My favourite teacher was German and she was awesome.
TimTheScifiGuy
As a Dutchman, no rivalry from me. Germany is my favourite European country outside my own, would move there if I had to leave NL.
hannes3120
except when it's football-time - then we're the biggest rivals :D
EnigmaNL
Well it's not like it used to be. In the 80's Dutch and German fans would actually fight, now they can watch the game in the same room.
hannes3120
yeah that's right - still classic rivalry though ;)
EnigmaNL
This is the old days: http://youtu.be/nxAvy32wXY0 Even the players hated each other :)
hannes3120
I knew what it would be :D - but it would be kinda hypocrite today, judging by how many Dutch players play together with Germans in a team
justlurkinfornow
What are you talking about? No, we don't. ;)
PopcornYourFace
can someone reverse this gif ?
rsxa
http://ezgif.com/reverse
mutuallyrepulsive
here you go http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ri61lBfMBu0
rsxa
http://ezgif.com/reverse
undercovergiraffe
iDrinkDrano
MRW I feel shitty and my GF baked cookies and brought them to me naked.
PopcornYourFace
thx dude, that's a cool reaction gif right there
MisterBoombastic
As a white person in America, I understand your inherited shame.
burrelstrnf
I don't. I regret slavery, but I couldn't be prouder to have a family of 400 years of American heritage.
ImgurRuinedMyLife
We are no where near the level of Germany for shame.
Escheron
it doesnt matter if it's not the same level, we do understand what it's like.
PennnnnyLane
Even though you shouldn't, because not every white American came from colonialists...
LapisScarab
Though I actually kind of respect how Germany has actually tried really hard to keep something like that from happening again.
mutuallyrepulsive
Welllllll... That's not entirely true. Heard about NSU? Turns out, the Verfassungsschutz that's supposed to monitor Nazis is funding them.
mimblewimble
2/2 as an American, I'm pretty sure if that happened to us we would ignore it, take it out of textbooks, and continue to wave our flag.
kuemmel
Yup. I think we just don't need this. I can be proud about Germany without waving that flag.
mimblewimble
It speaks a lot about German character for them to be so concerned about showing patriotism after what happened so long ago. 1/2
PewPewDude
Having grew up in Germany all throughout the 90's, i never saw this. People had the flag out quite often and no one cared...
espressoandpostrock
20 years can change a lot of things
obscuredreference
That's because this horrible thing is relatively recent. Ever since the advent of "political correct" extremism decided patriotism is evil.
ObscuraNox
I think it really depends where you live in. I grew up in Rheinlandpfalz, and i certainly noticed it a lot there.
jesseboots
I have lived in Rheinland-Pfalz for the last three years and also see the flag displayed quite often. Ramstein area, to be exact
PennnnnyLane
I live in that area now and there are German flags up in every village I drive through.
PewPewDude
I grew up in Speicher. You can't get much more west than that. =P
ihavedonebadthingsbutiamnotabadperson
See how the Italians and Japanese don't give a fuck for stuff happened over 70 years ago? Copy that.
CONFESSlONBEAR
Japan has earned the wrath of one-fifth of humankind, as well as all its immediate neighbors. That's not such a good idea.
ruediga
So is it a good thing to not give a fuck...?
badapparu
Maybe not exactly like that, what with the whole "denying any atrocities were committed at all" thing...
AgentFoo
Seriously, don't copy Italy and Japan over almost anything. Maybe food.
YouCantKeepJetpackingAwayFromYourProblemsBrian
We should copy Japan's enthusiasm for animation and cute things.
AssamLaksa
Definitely not like the Japanese though.
darkspork
Unfortunately, there are many in Japan that see nothing wrong with what they did.
Leorions
Lots of the civilians of nations don't mind about the wars. Biggest example is the American war crimes in Iraq. Look them up.
TheYoungRolf
I remember a quote from a book that goes like "people in Japan are ashamed about WWII, they're ashamed they lost."
ImgurRuinedMyLife
That is the Japanese culture, even if it is wrong they must do it and do it well (win)
homemadecookies
As a fellow German proud of her country: just don't let them stop you. Wave that flag in their small-minded little faces and be proud.
ChelBel
As a Canadian, wave your flag Germany, and keep gracing us with your beer and pretzels! We love you!
Einstein9073
Germany's pretty neat, but most Germans remember what happened the last time nationalism got big there, and get kind of nervous.
DennyDeYeeto
not only nervous, there is a clear continuity in Germany, and a lot of the so called patriots don't get how they repeat history.
GlutesforSlutes
America did some shit in its past but we're still patriotic as hell. Be proud of your country!!
gaunt
Yes, but you didn't ruin your whole country for the next decades after you got too nationalistic and committed genocides and lost two WWs.
ExcitedLinguist
German here...I should get me a flag...
homemadecookies
We all should, considering Oct 3rd is coming up. And then post pics on here!
ExcitedLinguist
I'm down! Start a post, I'll jump on XD
ramblinjd
stimmt
LtheGreatest
Germans do get a lot of crap for WW2 but overall I have found them to be warm and likable people. I plan on living here permanently.
mioelnir
Na dann, herzlich willkommen =)
ihaveenoughofthisorgasm
as another german i don´t get why there is a need to wave the german flag
homemadecookies
Do you think any other nation feels like they have to have a "need" to wave their flag? Why not just do it??
ihaveenoughofthisorgasm
because you seperate yourself from others, i don´t think you should define yourself over your nationality
faulerwulf
It's only separating yourself from others if you do it in a "I'm better than you" kind of way, which imo having a flag isn't at all
ihaveenoughofthisorgasm
but your still seperate yourself in this case from all the non-germans, which can easily lead to arrogance aswell
Malmeowww
Just moved to Germany from the states...I'm waiting for the day I meet a German and they love imgur as much as I do...we will be BFFs:)
ProphetOfTheFirstClaw
heyooo, where do you live?
Malmeowww
Hiii....I live near Ramstein! :) where do you live?
ProphetOfTheFirstClaw
Hamburg :/
homemadecookies
Well... hello there :)
Thereisnogoodnameleftanyway
Herzlich willkommen and I hope you will have an amazing time over here!
kuemmel
why are we anti-nationalists small-minded again? Sure, do w/e you like, but saying that is kind of rushed?
homemadecookies
If you accuse me of being a nazi or overly nationalistic because I want to wave my flag, then you are small-minded.
DennyDeYeeto
It's just the case study. If I would have met nice flag waving german, cool. But all I met were sexist idiots who pissed on jewish graves.
homemadecookies
Well I hope you called the cops on their asses since that is a felony.
kuemmel
Now I get you. That's true, of course! I thought you meant anti-nationalism was small-minded. Sorry ~
AdvancedIntellectualApplicationsofQuantumTunnels
TIL I need to get my ass out to Germany for Strawberryfest, because motherfuckin' strawberries.
diehliciousness
awwww yissssss
GreenEggsAndSpam
TIL = ???
AdvancedIntellectualApplicationsofQuantumTunnels
Today I Learned
jumpinjackoph
Erdbeerfest
MinimalMax
Those are more strawbs than you can shake a stick at
AdvancedIntellectualApplicationsofQuantumTunnels
Jokes on you, I want to eat them, not shake a stick at them!
ImMrbulldops
Not the beer being cheaper than water?
AdvancedIntellectualApplicationsofQuantumTunnels
Not a fan of beer, but that is still awesome.
cosmicgrizzly
Where's the GIF of Kaylee eating a strawberry??
AdvancedIntellectualApplicationsofQuantumTunnels
Lost in the shuffle, but you can have this:
cosmicgrizzly
Mmmmm that sweet sticky green, thanks!
AdvancedIntellectualApplicationsofQuantumTunnels
I'm here for you, imgurquaintance!
bwk2421
I can save you thousands of dollars in travel expenses. Just head out to the countryside, any fruit that grows will have a festival.
AdvancedIntellectualApplicationsofQuantumTunnels
But Germany!
bwk2421
That was an incredibly fast reply. I'm a little concerned you may have been watching me type that comment.
AdvancedIntellectualApplicationsofQuantumTunnels
I can neither confirm or deny that.
maplesugar
Now I'm sad that I'm allergic to strawberries.
Hatebreed
Yes....strawberries...no beer...
AdvancedIntellectualApplicationsofQuantumTunnels
Not a beer drinker :P
WaffleIron01
Can I come too?!?
AdvancedIntellectualApplicationsofQuantumTunnels
Maybe, you got boobs?
WaffleIron01
Sadly no... But I am willing to make waffles with those strawberries...
AdvancedIntellectualApplicationsofQuantumTunnels
Everybody likes waffles...
Ispelgood
Or san antonio
sheshazelnuts
AdvancedIntellectualApplicationsofQuantumTunnels
themostphotographedbarnintheworld
Listen. Come to Gilroy. Just south of the San Francisco Bay Area. Garlic Festival. All garlic, all the time. I'll be waiting.
AdvancedIntellectualApplicationsofQuantumTunnels
My boss told me about that yesterday, but I'm a vampire!
Trellin
South Berwick, Maine, also has one. Great strawberry shortcake there.
snugglelove
Maryland has a bunch all through late spring/early summer.
alaskaisachillplace
They are full of fiber
KaJuN
Bane?
abelrm
theres a strawberry festival in Plant City, FL fool!!
corig123
Yeah pretty much any town in NH is going to have a strawberry festival, with strawberry shortcake and dunk tanks and cheap books... (1/2)
corig123
Pair it with a trip to try all billiondy breads, though, and now it's worth a trip to Germany (I guess?!) (2/2)
AdvancedIntellectualApplicationsofQuantumTunnels
Seriously? I grew up in northern MA and I've never heard of that, sonofabitch.
corig123
Where? I lived on the NH side of the border! (Windham, Salem, Hollis...)
AdvancedIntellectualApplicationsofQuantumTunnels
Originally from Lowell.
ImJustaPickle
Troy, Ohio has an annual Strawberry Festival every year in June.
jesii
here in PA we tend to try to be a bit like germany and one of the attractions is our strawberry fest.
PopcornTiger
Went to this one. Burnt so bad, as a Canadian ginger. http://strawberry-fest.org/
minnow1776
Just finished up a Grape Festival in my hometown, every town has its own thing
areola51
We have 2 in NC.
HoseBeast
Not sure if it's closer but we have a Strawberry fest in Oregon that's super popular.
battery1979
Or Pontchatoula LA. They have a really great strawberry festival too.
PeaceAndFlowers
Cedarburg, WI.... but Germany's probably better... and bigger
AdvancedIntellectualApplicationsofQuantumTunnels
Probably, because Germany.
tardis63
Cedarburg, Wisconsin has a strawberry fest every year
caut10uslyadv3ntur0us
I'd say yes to motherfuckin strawberries any day!!
PennnnnyLane
Pumpkinfest and Apple-Happle is happening right now!
AdvancedIntellectualApplicationsofQuantumTunnels
Apple-Happle is Apple-Happenin?
PennnnnyLane
Yeah, it's a huge apple fest here.
AdvancedIntellectualApplicationsofQuantumTunnels
Apples are amazing too.
rundmckey
We have them in Louisiana just sayin...
IComeHereForBoobsAndRecipes
AM I DOING THIS RIGHT?! http://imgur.com/k9z2Cxd
AdvancedIntellectualApplicationsofQuantumTunnels
MAYBE?! WHAT EXACTLY ARE YOU DOING?!
ImgurFairy
Protest Strawberry Festival every April in Texas!!!
dudeiamtoohightousername
I live in Michigan (USA), and the place I'm at has a "melon fest" every year. Sure, not strawberries, but they're fuckin' good melons.
AdvancedIntellectualApplicationsofQuantumTunnels
Yeah? I was up in MI last year, and apparently cherries were a big thing in the area, which is awesome too!
dudeiamtoohightousername
Traverse City Cherry Festival, yeah, that's pretty big. Fair bit north of me, but I have family in the area. It gets pretty massive.
dudeiamtoohightousername
And no, not that kind of melons. You fuckers, I know what you were going to reply to this with.
DonBird
DAMMIT!! You beat me to it.. Well done. +1
soyouretellinmetheresachance
I've been to a strawberry festival in Michigan
peterpanpeanutbutter
Pungo Strawberry Festival in Virginia Beach, VA
smorgado
Plant City, Florida. Near Tampa. Winter Strawberry Capital of the World. Festival in late February.
dedradawn
Pasadena, Texas has a strawberry festival. I wouldn't go, but there's no denying it exists.
AdvancedIntellectualApplicationsofQuantumTunnels
Why not? Strawberries!
dedradawn
It's an industrial town and oftentimes smells like pollution.
AdvancedIntellectualApplicationsofQuantumTunnels
Well in that case: nope!
Turtlepickleking
The place is named Stinkadena for a reason.
IncubusSoul
Sensuously when to my grandma's last summer and we had a 5 gallon bucket just out of her personal garden, so much stuff grows well there.
JustForLalaz
Alabama has 3-4 fests a year within an hour drive from where I live
AdvancedIntellectualApplicationsofQuantumTunnels
3-4?!
lumpiestgenie
a cool strawberry festival in southern california exists as well
AdvancedIntellectualApplicationsofQuantumTunnels
Another reason for me finally check out Cali, thanks!
lumpiestgenie
No problem.it's in Oxnard, may 15th. We also have an avocado festival which is pretty damn good as well
AdvancedIntellectualApplicationsofQuantumTunnels
I'm not really an avocadvoate(I tried).
imgurnaut
Someone said Oxnard on imgur? http://24.media.tumblr.com/9b369c5889aa7ebf3817166046443bd3/tumblr_n45qzpE3Tr1qj6dyco1_500.gif
Dubritski
just go to ponchatula! http://www.lastrawberryfestival.com/ no nazis there :)
AdvancedIntellectualApplicationsofQuantumTunnels
There might be.
YouCantKeepJetpackingAwayFromYourProblemsBrian
Michigan has a Cherry Festival, if that's a little closer to home, and if you love cherries as much as I do. XD
AdvancedIntellectualApplicationsofQuantumTunnels
I heard when I was up there last year, I want to check that one out too, cherries are om-noms as well.
IronicJeremyIrons
And I can't go to one because I'm allergic
AdvancedIntellectualApplicationsofQuantumTunnels
We can go to a different OtherFruit-Fest, if you'd like.
IronicJeremyIrons
I vote Banana Fest
heythatsmymiata
Louisiana's strawberry festival is awesome!
AdvancedIntellectualApplicationsofQuantumTunnels
So I hear!
AdvancedIntellectualApplicationsofQuantumTunnels
LadyTashviv
Norway has it too. We also produce some of the best strawberries in the world. (according to my grandma)
AdvancedIntellectualApplicationsofQuantumTunnels
Grandmas usually know what they're talking about, I trust her judgement.
LadyTashviv
There are these certain strawberries I only get to taste when visiting her. They are abnormally sweet and juicy and they sort of melt in the
AdvancedIntellectualApplicationsofQuantumTunnels
That sounds incredible
LadyTashviv
You hereby have an official invitation.
LadyTashviv
mouth
strawberryfieldsforjusttoday
Hnnngggng strawberriessss...
MySecondAccount
Or come down to Poteet, Texas :)
robyenisgirlwonder
Glad some one put this
countrysmoker
Was hoping someone one would say this. I go every year. Its a great "small town" festival. Love it.
Turtlepickleking
The watertower is a big strawberry.
FernMayoooo
Poteet is such a cute name!
AdvancedIntellectualApplicationsofQuantumTunnels
Going on my 'list of places to go for awesome strawberry time'
DjMeatSlushie
As someone who lives in SA i cant wait for the strawberry festival, the traffic is always so awful but strawberry topped funnel cake, yesh.
dryeraser
Florida Strawberry Festival http://www.flstrawberryfestival.com/
FredDamnRock
Dat 2lbs shortcake tho.
LordFluffinstein
I went to Florida Strawberry Festival and there strawberries are amazing.
LordFluffinstein
*their
AdvancedIntellectualApplicationsofQuantumTunnels
Noted!
chiefs86
As a Tampan (tampon?) i love me some Strawberry Festival.
Tuwonwon
Tampanian is how I heard it, but I prefer Tampon.
Steelymix
Was going to mention this :D
Refresh100
Good old Plant City FL. I'm glad I live in the half way point to the Strawberry Festival and the state fair, that time of year gets real fun
Gatorjon
Who's going to The Stand tonight?
TheWizardGrimm
Sounds like you live near Valrico
Refresh100
Right after it, in Brandon
TheWizardGrimm
That was my initial guess but I'd say Brandon is much closer to the fairgrounds than to the strawberry festival and not really "middle" :D
RednapxpandeR
Come to the central coast of California. You'll see strawberrys as far as the eye can see.
AdvancedIntellectualApplicationsofQuantumTunnels
And I would frolic in them!
nowputthatthingbackwhereitcamefromorsohelpme
Santa Maria! Strawberries EVERYWHERE
RednapxpandeR
That's what city is just North of me!
nowputthatthingbackwhereitcamefromorsohelpme
Yeah, that's where I live! You in Los Alamos or something?
RednapxpandeR
Lompoc, yea i know....
cinnaMeal
Watsonville!
IzzyJizzy
I live no long than 50 meters from strawberry fields, unfortunately they no longer have strawberries on them :(
daqatz
My home town also has a strawberry festival The town I use to camp in has an apple festival Just go to the country side, plenty of festivals
mustachioedbunny
we have a strawberry festival in the spring, apple festival in the fall, and peach and blueberry festivals in the summer. it's pretty great.
AdvancedIntellectualApplicationsofQuantumTunnels
I need sources!
jeskaska
Lincolnton, NC has a yearly apple festival
AdvancedIntellectualApplicationsofQuantumTunnels
Apples are in my top three fruits, thanks!
LMeire
I imagine most states in the US will have at least one annual German thing, for a while that's where most of our immigrants came from.
AdvancedIntellectualApplicationsofQuantumTunnels
That is true, but a festival of fruit isn't necessarily German.
ogThrax
Which town did you campf in
daqatz
Acton Maine
daqatz
Acton Maine
chipsdontlie
So Acton Maine Campf? (Sorry, Germany)
LapisScarab
There's no reason for German civilians to be ashamed of a war they had nothing to do with that happened decades ago.
gammaraycharles
Its like blaming white Americans for slavery. The Confederate flag doesn't rascism anymore. Being proud of where you're from isn't wrong.
LapisScarab
The flag is a symbol of a government defined by racism, so yes, that is still a problem. But everyday Americans aren't to blame for slavery
twopi
Ashamed no, remember yes
copingcabana
As a white American, my ancestors were still in Europe when the last slave was liberated.
SaintMaceToTheFace
Same. The other half of my family WERE slaves
SaintMaceToTheFace
So no one try to give me white guilt.
GetOffMyLawnYa
The problem is that "National Pride" previously lead directly to the horrors of the Nazi Party. The German public has, and probably will 1/
iconicpheasant
tell that to white Americans
GetOffMyLawnYa
never forget that, and thus they as a people seem to FEAR "Nationalism". Also "National Pride" is a buzzword used by the current Nazis 2/
MollyBloomsDeadDreams
It's ridiculous. I was called a Nazi for stating that I love Germany and the language. I've lived here for 20 years but I'm Croatian.
uncas5128
Every citizen of every country should absolutely know their history and examine their present culture carefully.
dabbingislovedabbingislife
Thank you.
GetOffMyLawnYa
and other skinheads as a rallying cry.
raudssus
Since the world cup in our country we all know this in germany, this guy just didn't had the memo.
MaxwellSilver
Behavioural sciences have taught us that anyone can be a dick if circumstances favour it. It has nothing to do with a certain nation.
codylishush
Don't play multiplayer games moderated by germans. The social management for Supremacy 1914 is quite ironically fascist.
CPatricoo
Well a few of those people still live.
Rolli13
I don't think (almost) any living German should have to apologize for mistakes made before their lifetime. Military or otherwise.
aselfdefeatingattitude
They don't have to but they're leery of nationalism because of what it wrought. "Those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it."
Rolli13
There is a difference between being ashamed of everything you are, and taking heed of past mistakes. It's just... sad...
aselfdefeatingattitude
Everything you are isn't just your country though?
Rolli13
Ethnicity and nationality make for a pretty big part of each of our identities.
atRderpson
thats the same as saying you cant be proud of germanys past succeses because you had nothing to do with what happend in the past
AskingTheRealQuestions
Excellent point. I think Germans should acknowledge their past mistakes. I also think others e.g. Americans should realise that they 1/2
HopeHubris
And why should you be?
piggypiglet
Problem?
AskingTheRealQuestions
weren't all that good either. Racial segregation and eugenics were prominent and on the rise during the 30's, blacks got sterilised etc.2/2
BluHaze
Which is true. Feel pride for your own successes, not what someone else achieved just because they happen to be from the same country.
AskingTheRealQuestions
You just took a giant shit on patriotism as a whole.
BluHaze
Believe it or not but it's entirely possible to love and devote yourself to your country without being proud of other peoples actions.
AskingTheRealQuestions
A colossal part of patriotism is als being proud of your country, cheering when your nation does well in sports and so on.
AskingTheRealQuestions
Your countries image will affect you as a citizen's image so being concerned about it's affairs outside your own actions is only natural.
megodk
Well, we still get called out for it
Rolli13
As a Finn, my advice is to extend the middle finger to them. Ich meine es so. Wirklich. Ich hasse die "alle Deutsch sind Nazis" Leute -.-
megodk
Had an american friend greet me with "Hallo mein Führer" once. When I was done shouting him into the ground he apologized and explained (1)
ImSorryButIJustDontLikeYou
WOW, "shouting him to the ground" you didn't have to be such a Nazi about it.
megodk
that he thought it meant sth like "Hey boss". Then I explained to him what "Mein Führer" means. (2)
AskingTheRealQuestions
Doesn't it literally translate into "my leader"? But I guess the whole führer word kind of died out with Hitler...
BitchImCanadian
...How the hell are people THAT ignorant?
barlcarks
It does not only have to do with feeling ashamed for the war, but also that there's a high sensibility for nationalism and it's dangers(1/2)
PyrosHaveMoreFun
Well, thinking that your country is better than anything is stupid, but being moderately nationalist isn't bad. I'm proud to be American(1/2
PyrosHaveMoreFun
but I'd be proud to be Spanish if I were born there. It just means you respect your culture and your country means something to you (2/2)
barlcarks
Since it's pure coincidence that one is born in a certain country,and borders are arbitrary, why should you be "proud" of your country?(2/3)
SaintMaceToTheFace
Because I am proud of my country. America has accomplished amazing things. I love the land, culture, and people.
MantisTobagganMD
Because, those 'arbitrary borders' lead to well defined cultures within them. Being proud to be -blank- is being proud of the culture.
Linx6
Why do people feel like nationalism is wrong? I guess is the same reason socialism is bad People assume extremists represent the whole thing
flamingflamingo
This is often the question I've had about the US. Yeah, I have a pretty good life, but the BEST country...? Eehh...
IWRITEEVERYTHINGINCAPS
FEELINGS OF PRIDE AND SHAME ARE BOTH IRRATIONAL WHEN IT COMES TO THINGS YOU DIDN'T DO OR IDENTITIES YOU WERE GIVEN BY OTHERS.
barlcarks
Nevertheless,Germany is great country to live in & it's not a shame to identify with the culture,landscape and people if you feel like it3/3
Glumerlink
But Germans have twice become hyper nationalistic and twice done horrific things. They need to be very careful.
YouCantKeepJetpackingAwayFromYourProblemsBrian
Uhh they're not alone when it comes to doing "horrific things". Lots of countries have done terrible things... even now. o_o
DarkCrawler901
Ummm, they were no worse then any other side in WWII and nationalism had little to do with it...WWI was the death knell of monarchies.
ObscuraNox
Urgh...Of course, now i notice the grammar mistakes. I meant *kinds of bread.
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MarquisDeSadeVII
Yeah. Americans killed way more than Germans.
undercovergiraffe
Grammar Nazi (Pleasedon'thatemeIloveyoureally)
MarquisDeSadeVII
Sie benötigen nur eine Dusche.
megodk
English as a second language. You are forgiven. (Says another German on here)
themanthemyththecharles
Saying you should be ashamed of Nazi Germany is like me (American) taking blame for slave America. It doesn't make sense. Be patriotic.
Pyrotecman
Fly your flag and show it proudly. It will make it easier for the next person to do it. I'm sure there are lots of you who feel the same way
cuideri
Don't worry about the small mistakes! Believe me, if you asked an American to write about the USA in German, we wouldn't be able to do it!
Eowyneb
Only in America do you really see the patriotic flag showing every day.
yveris
As an American I agree Germany is rad, but I feel nationalism anywhere is dangerous as it leads to cultural hegemony (look at america)
rob0tgot
I think nationalism isn't intrinsically bad, just too much of it is. But 'too much' of anything is bad. That's why it's too much!
Eowyneb
You know, I havent really been in any country (and i have been in more then a dozen) where it is the custume to have flags out every day.
programmabiesoda
It's okay the only German word I know is TOR! Because Football.
linkedbyfate13
I lived in Germany for a year, Heidelberg, and I loved it. Great food, nice people, very clean, tons of bike paths. I'd love to go back.
CallMeInV
I think most of the world has forgiven Germany pretty quickly. We honestly wouldn't care if you were more patriotic.
ObscuraNox
I think the main problem is not that others cant forgive us, but rather were having a hard time forgiving ourselfs
CallMeInV
Give it time. You are a world leader, only thing keeping the EU together. Be proud of what you are doing now. Focus on that.
BlastedSand
This reminded me of my German friend who speaks seven languages and still apologizes for making grammar mistakes in English.
0DiVisioN
You're just looking for a reason to call someone else a (grammar)Nazi arent you?
frankenteddy
Im not German....but i bloody love living here!!
ProphetOfTheFirstClaw
schon okay, wäre bestimmt niemandem aufgefallen
Artimak
2/2 and no one cares (especially because our two countries were enemies in WWII). I will be proud of our shared ancestry for both of us!
Artimak
You know, OP, I find it really ironic that, as an American, I can wear
on a sweatshirt all through school 1/2
Snooj
You can still fix the descriptions in your album and they'll show up here. The only thing you can't change it the main title and pictures.
ObscuraNox
Ah cool, i didnt know that. Im kinda busy right now ( Have to go to the grocery store soon) but i think ill change it later
Snooj
NP, I learned that from my own album hitting the FP and immediately afterwards I noticed the hideous, hideous errors.
raudssus
Since the world cup in our country it is no problem for a german to be proud to be german.... You just missed the memo
ObscuraNox
Until we loose the next championship.
raudssus
THE WORLD CUP _IN_ OUR COUNTRY....... you probably didn't missed the memo, you are just unable to read ;-)
kazenokize
My friend went there and told me the same thing. I hope things get better for you! One of the MOST gentle and kind ppl I know is german.
rob0tgot
Your English is exemplary, and I miss being in Germany every day. I was only there two weeks! It's not enough!!
ObscuraNox
Thank you :) Im still a little bit unsure about my english. Reading/listening to it is fine, but speaking it can give me a little bit of 1/2
ObscuraNox
trouble. not to mention the accent xD 2/2
rob0tgot
The German accent is sexy and I will hear no dissent!
ObscuraNox
I actually have a video on youtube where im ranting about a videogame in english xD
Kovulent
To be fair, in England, if someone's showing an English flag, people will assume they're a racist yob.
CrazySpaceMonkey
Same in Sweden. :(
FinalBackwardsGlance
Same in Hungary. The fucking right wingers ruined this for the rest of us.
Capnrory
stupid BNP, stealing our flag
krallisawesome
I think it's more the English Defence League, since the British National Party tend to use the Union Jack.
irespondwithsimpsonsquotes
Unless... theres football on.
amkoc
In the US, the racist yobs have their own flag
georgethejungle
I live in the middle of London and wouldn't fly the flag of St George. Everyone would think I was racist
rg001
Same in Sweden. Can't be proud.
arawana
As an Eastern European living in England, I would not assume or think that, although I would consider it a possibility :)
MIGHTYTALOS
Thanks mate, and glad to have you with us.
SmashingChap
I think it's a bit similar in NZ. You're a bit of a weirdo if you're displaying an NZ flag and aren't a school.
fiery831
+1 for yob.
ItsCaptain0bvious
When I was growing up, I understood "pride" as something you feel when you achieve something. To date, I still don't get how people feel 1/2
ItsCaptain0bvious
entitled to shove their pride for being born within the borders of a certain country down my throat. I don't give a shit. To me, it's 2/3
ItsCaptain0bvious
like you are telling me that you have no personal achievements to be proud of & instead you need to be proud of a group that you belong to.
Kasai
They seems very similar to a George Carlin joke.
marylovesbigdipper
We do have such a shame about the George cross. If i saw someone with one hanging in their window i would assume the worst.
iPretend
I get that same shit for my confederate flag. I know that feel bro
ColonelPotoo
Same in France, really. When someone says "I'm proud of my country", either it's during the football cup or what he really means is
ColonelPotoo
"Fuck the arabs and blacks stealing our jobs" (lol.)
riffifi
Now that I think about it, flags are Ok for football, and also politics (think about UMP meetings during the elections)
ColonelPotoo
Yeah, that's about it. DON'T BE PROUD OF YOUR COUNTRY, FUCKER, IT'S WRONG!
BaronVonFingerbang
You just need those people to secede from France, create their own flag, and defeat them so they can have their own flag to wave for that.
PhilosophicalGinger
Ohhh, is THAT why we had the Civil War in the US?
BaronVonFingerbang
Yup, not about freeing slaves and equality for all men as some may think.
IgnatiusJReilly2601
It's getting that way in Australia too.
myweaknessisstrong
what does that mean for all the morons CONSTANTLY waving american flags? Eh, pretty much the same thing.
Ragnos
Yeah, pretty much the same in some parts of Sweden as well
AmbiWalrus
Upvote for Marka
Bojoz
It's sadly more 60%+ of Sweden right now :(
otakucode
People who think 'my country did good - that makes ME good' are nationalists and they are fucking scum.
obscuredreference
It doesn't make it fair, it makes is a wide-spread catastrophe and the slow destruction of western society.
akaFLAMEGiRL
"The UKIP Flag"
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Justsomelurkerwithnonamewanted
It's not a matter of just the flag, it's other stuff too. If it's just a single flag, not bad, but multiples, flag shirts etc. Scary.
MakeItAGoodOne
You make a good point.
IndianaIsWeird
You shouldnt. Thats dumb. Many soliders fly it, and many of them are black. Not that blacks can be racist, but not the type your talking of
MakeItAGoodOne
Note for non-Americans: This is not a common opinion.
mouschi
Which makes you ignorant.
MakeItAGoodOne
It makes me someone who's never met a bigot that didn't drape themselves in one flag or another.
Kyuubles
I think national pride should be something to be careful of and while this post has a point the US really over does it...
PatrickPunchhard
Or it's the World Cup. I'd much rather live in a country wary of nationalism than one that questions anything other than blind patriotism.
geriatricsanatore
I agree and also think it's OK to be somewhat patriotic but for your fellow people not your government. I'm proud of NASA for instance.
PatrickPunchhard
It crosses a line when you think being born in a certain country makes you better. It's okay to be proud of fonts
mouschi
They aren't mutually exclusive though. That is the problem with the hate of national pride.
PatrickPunchhard
True, but it treads a fine line. I think it's all kind of dumb though. Take pride in your own achievements, not random people you never met.
mouschi
So I take you you have never in your life watched a sport and rooted for a team?
PatrickPunchhard
Treating politics like a sport with teams is a huge problem. I watch sport but people who refer to sports teams as 'we' worry me
VinnieJonesDiary
Same in Ireland, flying the Tricolour outside of sporting events is weird...
mackspower
Ditto Australia
Lifestoohard
I love Australia so much I'm gonna tie the flag around my neck with my shirt off and drag it through the mud at BDO.
werwerwere
Southern cross tattoo anyone?
maltrick
I do judge people with those. Probably unfairly.
deactivated19l19l17
No, I'm pretty sure the judgement is fair
UkHugo
Not necessarily. I loved the Olympics here as I felt it took that association away and we should fly the flag and keep it ours.
Kenziesrus
Same in the American South. I know it's not a country, and yes, wtf our history, but there's something special about the south.
Kovulent
Seeing the South American flag instantly makes me think of the KKK. But since listening to Lynyrd Skynyrd I've changed my opinion.
Ktlynksdy
Yes, but there is nothing special about the Confederate flag.
IronicDancing
But being a racist yob here is better than being a Nazi anywhere, really.
LavaAxe
Those two are starting to go hand in hand more and more these days.
SecretCatPolicy
The difference being...?
IronicDancing
Nazis hate people of other races and the disabled, racists just hate people of other races.
p34ce
In parts Scotland, it's more about the Union Jack vs the Irish tricolour. You see either waving out of windows, you assume you are in...
p34ce
For those interested: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sectarianism_in_Glasgow
p34ce
...football/religious violence territory.
Smysha
My childhood! :D *memories*
p34ce
Not mine, thankfully. I moved there in 2003. Worked in nightclubs for a while. Met some scary people, including one claiming to be ex-Provo.
Smysha
I lived in a small town EVERYONE has heard of (Lockerbie) Rangers vs Celtic was the worst. I remember 5 ambulances and 8 police cars 1 match
Smysha
An ex-provo! Lovely...
Smysha
Not only that I also lived in a small town in Ireland. My father was well off and we're brown so of course we had a car bomb detector.
krallisawesome
Why would people fly the Irish flag in Scotland?
IgnatiusJReilly2601
Soccer holligans.
p34ce
To show support for Celtic FC/Catholicism in general. It's called 'The Old Firm', and it is a major cause of violence.
krallisawesome
Ah, I wasn't aware of that. Thanks! :)
CelticIntifadah
Large Irish diaspora and fallout from situation between Ireland & Britain
krallisawesome
Ah, I didn't know about the Irish diaspora in Scotland (being British I'm aware of the "fallout" from Ireland's independence :P ). Thanks!
p34ce
The cliché is that in Glasgow, if you find yourself wandering in the wrong places, you'll be asked 'Protestant or Catholic'.
p34ce
Your choice of response will determine whether you get hurt or not. When I lived there, there was a murder every few months due to it.
p34ce
...avoided students and tourists. Also, I felt like the IRA disarmament in 2005 changed things a lot.
mnsu
How about if you're neither?
p34ce
I should add that I've painted something of a grim picture that isn't what you'll experience if you go there now. Most of these people...
MantisTobogganPilotMD
As an American: I love your beautiful country, and I've met very nice, intelligent, fun, welcoming people there. Be Proud!
CaptainJackSbarro
With a username like that, I don't doubt you're American. Also, Germany is great! I broke my nose there. It was awesome.
MantisTobogganPilotMD
My username is a reference to the demon that possessed the girl in The Exorcist. FYI
CaptainJackSbarro
Is it? I never saw it, I'm not a horror person. :/
AIComments
Yes, Americans have a lot of awesome feelings about Germany.
PerfectSphere
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoLIU2NI66w
theyreshellfishcoral
Anerican here...I spent a summer in Germany 4 years ago and my heart has ached for it since. Be proud!
popculturella
I'm an American with an immediate German family history and damn proud of it.
MantisTobogganPilotMD
I found out I'm 25% German when i was about 20. Damn proud of it.
spookmeister
My old high school was apart of a German exchange program. We had students come from Rudolstadt, and you guys were all pretty awesome people
georgiaonmamind
definitely be proud. went to germany in 2012 for german exchange and fell in love.
FlamedLion
Yeah! Show you pride, I think every country is entitled to.
eeaassytiger
Everyone crossed the street exactly when and where they were supposed to. I loved Germany!
Rocktrash
Agreed! I've lived in Germany twice now and I can't help but feel a little proud when I tell folks here in the US about how nice Germany 1/2
Rocktrash
2/2 and the Germans have been to us. My family and I still talk to our old neighbors every other weekend!
Drsolders
As an American as well, my grandfather was stationed near Laundstul in the 70s , but he always talks about how amazing Germany was.
Bukkhockey
Yeah. I'm not buying this horse shit. I've never heard a bad thing about Germany outside a history book. I'm surrounded by people who 1/2
CONFESSlONBEAR
What you said is 100% true. The fact that this so-called "Unpopular Opinion Puffin" received overwhelming upvotes is a testament to that.
Bukkhockey
2/2 have visited or want to visit before they die. People (in the Chicago area) that I know love Germany and Germans are too self conscious
lastlaughlane
Agreed! I'm American too with some German heritage and I've been a huge fan of German soccer for years so I have a flag hanging in my dorm
Lockerkid
How has no one pointed out this guy's username?
MantisTobogganPilotMD
i think I changed it in the interval this was like a year ago
MantisTobogganPilotMD
and if you don't know the reference, watch Danger5
jawsnnn
Or appreciate it. Love it. Add to it. I don't know but people seem to forget pride is not exactly a good thing.
MantisTobogganPilotMD
There's nothing wrong with being satisfied with the positive qualities of yourself or your surroundings.
LavaAxe
Sure but that's being happy about it. Being proud about a genetic accident is dubious.
jawsnnn
I'm not riled up by it. But I have never understood it. Being proud of a place you live in, or the people who happen to be born there...
ImTheOneWhoTookYourRug
I had a great German roommate once. She was so cool. She taught me that lower back tattoos are called "butt antlers" in Germany. Classic!
bigtastybacon
Arschgeweih :)
Whyshouldicare
Butt Antlers. Brilliant!
Hotchy2
More like Ass antlers. a bit more crude :P Or Whorestamp
bionerd
second one is equivalent to tramp stamp in English :P
ObscuraNox
flying. Dont you hate it if you just need 1 more word to finish the sentance? Darn character limit. 2/2
BrassKicker
Sometimes I revise my wording to be shorter.
bashmuttons
Hey bro, I feel you. I have crippling flying fear, but had 2 go to wedding in DE. I took the Queen Mary 2 , then Eurostar, then autobahn :)
bashmuttons
It took a little longer but I had an absolutely incredible time. Now I hope to visit Europe much more often!
MantisTobogganPilotMD
I think everytime I fly I get a little more scared of it.
SkidMarks0nMyTowel
I'm literally at the airport gate on imgur. Wish me luck!
EnderXVI
If I can get my boat someday I would sail people like you where you would like to go.
ObscuraNox
Thanks man. Ive seen some pictures of the american landscape, and i would love to visit the place someday. If only i werent so afraid of 1/2
Ataryeah
I upvoted.As a Polishman I am afraid they wont let me back in to my homeland.But I respect your right to be proud of who you are.
Momof2needsabreak
Come to California, you get a taste of everything. Germany is on my list of places to visit, a lot of my ancestors came from there.
themanthemyththecharles
IMHO, the only people that actually punish themselves for the past are idiots. Study it, learn from it, move on; don't punish yourself.
BeeLahKay
penises.
Amtherion
If you take an overnight flight and use dramamine (motion sickness pills that cause drowsiness) you'll sleep through the whole damn thing.
ObscuraNox
Now all that is left would be the group of 10 guys to actually get me on board :D
Amtherion
Easy, fake a disability, take drowsy pills on the ground, hop in a wheelchair, and let airport services do the rest.
ObscuraNox
On a side note, beer is literally cheaper than water here. So. thats good.
Bent0916
If you lived in America nobody would blink twice at your German pride. Americans have an odd appreciation for German. Even the NAZIs.
thequickbrownfoxjumpsoverthelazydog
Lived there for a year - it was so clear they were not allowed to have pride. Was weird for me as an American - time to heal! I love Germany
lewaq
As a Czech: "still not cheap enough" :-)
sanshi
and the cars!!!
SwedishRationalist
I feel you, fellow Northern European. It's kinda the same in Sweden. It's gotten better now but in the 90's, a Swedish flag meant "RACIST".
megodk
And it's among the best beers in the world.
Glalev
Definitely something to be proud of. But yeah, my stance on it is that enough time has past, enough with the shame/shaming of Germany.
whitepolarbear
I love Germany!
thefar
Fuck those people. As a portuguese living in germany now for almost 25 years. This country rocks. Schwarz-Rot-Gold!
ino84
As a german who loves Portugal I have to give that compliment right back to you.
TattooedWife
AND YOU HAVE LORD OF THE LOST!! That is all.
FeelingOfKnowing
Strawberry at 3€/kg? I already decided what I will eat when drinking a beer in Germany: 1kg(or 2) & 3 liters (or 4). Is this the basic meal?
thecrossthebridge
Where?
FookinRocketScientist
Na dann, Prost! Ein Grund mehr, mal wieder nach Deutschland zu fahren.
ElPoloDiablo
A Pole living in Britain here. I get the opposite treatment: "But you got invaded." whenever I express pride. I feel you, brother ;)
cyfeiliornydd
Nur wenn du Öttinger oder andere Pissplörre säufst ;)
fregeror
I was visiting Germany for a week one time, I don't even know how I got out of there with a functioning liver
ObscuraNox
Not to mention that germany is not just popular because of the beer, but in some areas because of the whine as well! So much alcohol! xD
fregeror
But I have to ask. Why do you stare all the time? I've been to a few cities and locals just STAAAARE at tourists :c
ObscuraNox
A lot of people have mentioned "The stare". I never realize it, but i guess thats because i grew up here xD
fregeror
I remember me and my friends were out at night(drunk),but we were trying to be as quiet as possible. People still stared. I felt so naked...
hyperbolichumility
I remember that from when I was there. Cheaper than water, soda, tea, food, etc. Viel Glück, mein Freund.
MasterPrime
As an American, I would love to live in Germany. or Sweden.
Mystraya
Im an Aussie and I dated an Austrian/German. 10/10. Would go to Germany. Food beer and cars. Also woman.
itellyouhwhatthatboyaintright
Just 1 woman though.
captainikag
Not a bad deal if you're into an entire country banging only one woman.
Djchoragos
I don't know man, Kaufland had stupidly cheap flats of beer, especially when you take the deposit out of it...
idownvoteplottwist
When I was there in 2010 I heard that used to be the case, but they passed a law requiring water to be the cheapest. But only marginally so.
ned78
Is that Funfair in Dusseldorf?
villlllle
Dude your country is awesome. Here's a tribute to Germany from Finland: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5d7BfjE3Hc
Toastfrog
Im proud to be German and I say it all the time, I live in New Zealand (born here), Ive been called a nazi so many times growing up.
LarryPutsPineappleOnPizza
I just visited Berlin (from Los Angeles) and I loved the people I met. One of my favorite cities/countries I've ever visited.
SoaringMuse
Germans are awesome man. Fuck the haters.
TheCoinFlip
this probably won't seem fair to you, since it had nothing to do with you, but those WWs were serious business and are still quite recent.
PrettyBoyRalph
ADOPT ME DAMMIT
ProgressClone
I'm American. Was stationed in Germany for 4 years. That place is beautiful and incredible. You have every right to be proud!
ultrarunningawayfromyou
In glad I saw this! I'll be visiting at the end of October and we're trying to decide STILL where we need to visit. Any suggestions?
ThebabyAteMyDingo
Also, awesome music! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaS9kDZddfQ
RIPFuturama
I feel you. I love my country but America has done some sick shit in the past. Then again hypocrisy rules the world so go figure.
KiowaBrave
I am half German, Half Native American, I am always proud of my German half. And I always root for Germany during World cup.
EmzeexD
Germany really is a stunningly beautiful place like crazy beautiful and I'm from NZ so I know a pretty landscape when I see one.
morpho4444
homophobic, make the women feel lees, but with nationalism, you kill other country's people... I prefer to be citizen of the world
mulamoney
also your environmental laws are great!
Erilis
true, mad respec der
MildlyInterestingTrombonist
I just moved to Germany from the US. I love it here!! :)
smulesghost
this is not a sidenote... this is the note
KellyLooLoo
listen, I visited Germany for the first time in February and everyone was polite and helpful and your food IS DELICIOUS. Germany is the tits
W0lfMan26
2/2 I don't feel that any country should be mad. Just because ones before you did bad doesn't make you bad.
iLoveItWhenMyFingersSmellLikePussy
As a Dutch guy... I WANT MY GRANDFATHER'S BICYCLE BACK!!! j/k :D
MissThickThickityThickFaceFromThicktownThickania
Don't worry, OP. I'm moving to Germany as soon as I graduate. You'll have me to bother you.
macncheeseme
Yay for you, and love of your home! :)
TooLazyToDoSomethingElse
OP when I come to visit your country lets get drunk and celebrate how awesome it is. As a Texan we are very good at showing pride.
morpho4444
Hi OP, I´m analyzing all the forms of segregation, elitism and some more, and nationalism is a really bad one... people can be racist...
W0lfMan26
1/2 Of all the Germans I know, you're all great people. I only known 4-6 but you're good people. I'm not mad about WW2 and I don't feel that
naughtywhiteboy
I'm an American that lived in Germany for 4 years. I LOVED it! Be proud. Fuck em. Just don't yell Deutschland Uber Alles. Ha ha.
byllman
*an American shakes his tiny fist at you in jealousy*
StrokerJoker
As a german... it´s true and german beer is the best beer ;)
magisch
Lets not forget the mandatory healthcare for everyone. Its a great feeling to be able to go to the doctor anytime you need.
cabalin
American here. Better to go into debt, even bankruptcy. Remember, every time you receive free healthcare the communists win
imguridki
genau!
JaimeLannistersRightHand
Be proud German guy! Something something sins of the fathers something visit us and such...
drunkensavant
I grew up there and am mostly German by heritage - love it!
WhereLBJsNutsHang
As a direct descendant of a Holocaust escapee (they got out before the round up) I wish you could be proud too. It's not your fault.
OldManBOMBIN
As an American, I want to live in Germany. Economy, beer, womerns, culture. I want it.
RichCorinthian
Welp, I know where I'm going if I decide to pull a Leaving Las Vegas.
ICantBelieveNobodySaidThisYet
Sounds like Wisconsin, USA. Many German immigrants here. mmmmm beer
someuser
As a Brit, I love Germany. I have friends from all over Europe. We should all get together and have a flag waving drinking session.
Adiktedgottaregisternow
I'm Canadian...but I love you. Can I come ?
someuser
I live with a Canadian. Join the party :D
Adiktedgottaregisternow
Yay ! (^.^)
someuser
Note: We should be careful not to accidentally wave flags in such a way that we land a jet outside the pub
akapraun
How hard would it be to become a German citizen?
TheLinkster2013
My sister and brother inlaw went to Germany on their honeymoon, OP! They LOVE it there and love how welcoming and kind the people are
Mycologics
I almost always go to germany for October fest this weekend. But sadly I'm to busy. But i love germany. With love, your dutch neighbour.
DVSBSTrD
I'll admit I'm glad my family left Germany before it even was Germany, but I know that not all Germans are latent Nazis.
IDontSeeEnoughDarkTowerOnImgur
"not all" is a gross exaggeration.
Iseultin
Very good. :D Also, from a Brit, I think Germany has a LOT to be proud of. <3
groundcontroltomajortom7
Every person I know who has been to Germany is dying to go back. I ate at a German restaurant in Manhattan once and my life changed forever.
PastaJesus
Habben wir einen Deutche? Hallo!
ObscuraNox
Guten Tag :)
PastaJesus
Ich finde dein Post sehr gut.
plzwhateverisokforme
Your situation is not only in Germany. In France, we didnt do the Shoah but we have the exact same reaction to toward our flag. So weird.
IDontSeeEnoughDarkTowerOnImgur
I lived in Germany for 3 years and there are many reasons it's awesome. I did notice the forced lack of pride, until the world cup. As an1/2
IDontSeeEnoughDarkTowerOnImgur
2/2 American I thought the death stares were just how old Germans looked. I've rarely seen anything different on their faces.
SometimesAUserNameIsRelevantButInThisCaseItIsNot
I don't blame Germany for the atrocities of the war. I blame the chancellorship, and the Nazi regime. I fucking love Germany.
TheGhostBehindYou
Ich stimme dir vollkommen zu. Ich mag es hier auch und bin stolz Deutsch zu sein!
BefreeHugtrees
2/2 they thought I was an alcoholic until they compared tabs and saw that my beer cost 2euro cheaper than their water
EarendilTheBlessed
I feel bad op as a American of German decent I can wave my German flag around and no one bats an eye although I get call nazi alot unrelated
getmepicturesofspiderman
I'm English, and I love Germany. So much so I'm now a German teacher.
ObscuraNox
Your pupil must love you everytime you bring up german articles.
getmepicturesofspiderman
Oh they love them...ok I love them. I mean, ok, I understand them...
vicmurder
Had me at cheaper beer
KingsAndQueens
The water could be really expensive though
RichardWolff
If you want to bitch about the social ramifications of a world war, maybe dont be the country who started that shit.
RichardWolff
with that said, in america if you hang a flag on your car or window we just assume you are a product of inbreeding.
Ukkoswoon
yes! beer! Delicious German beer! As an expat living for 4 yrs in DE, this place rocks!
ObscuraNox
have you ever tried Feuerzangenbowle? Its a very sweet drink. Oh, and you set it on fire.
GreenEggsAndSpam
Beer is good
mindolluin
I want to try ALL the breads! I found out I was part German and it's a cool thing! Enjoy your country!
ObscuraNox
Thanks :) I actually make my own bread once in a while. Its a rather heavy bread, with bacon bits in the dough :D
mindolluin
yum!
BefreeHugtrees
Oh yeah, when I studied abroad in berlin I was pretty much broke so I always bought beer instead of the sparkling water when we ate out 1/2
ThePastmaster
Not if you don't like beer. :@
RyanLwin
Like how white Americans will be forever known as slave owners, you'll be forever a Nazi. Sorry OP. My condolences.
leshibbe
I'd love to live in Germany, OP when can I move in?
InboxMeYourBeards
My mother was stationed in Illesheim for 6 years in the 80s and she still talks about it fondly.
kog6
I'm going to apply to work and study in Germany, but I need to write an essay on Rostock, Heilbron, or Kassel. Are you familiar with them?
ObscuraNox
Sadly, no. I grew up near "Kaiserslautern"
kog6
Drat! Ah well I still have a few months, thanks for the reply.
ObscuraNox
Youre welcome :)
stutteringbob
You should just calm down and remember that you have German beer and beautiful girls. It can't be all that bad.
TheCuteFox
Same in Czech Republic.
BlasserDuennerJunge
And the best: Water is already cheap. So I'm okay with it.
HelloiLikeCats
Well now that it's oktoberfest, doesn't all beer get more expensive then?
puckster31
1/2 A lot of my friends are German, and I just spent a month in Germany this summer and this exact topic came up a lot. As an American my
puckster31
2/2 ancestors committed genocide, but I am a proud American, not because of what my nation once did
puckster31
3/2 (oops) (and is still doing sometimes cough cough,) but because of beauty and potential.
LadyMiena
I love Germany, especially Berlin; been there three times and it's not enough! You go ahead and love Germany here in Imgur!
phlat6
This is why you're not allowed to celebrate being German. It's because you'll make the rest of us jealous, like you just did.
AntiDownVoteActivist
American here: I'm trying to learn German. I'm going to learn it; fly over; and hang German flags all over the damned place!
FookinRocketScientist
That's beautiful. I love to hear americans speak german.
ben9105
I took 4 years in school/college. I need to pick it back up.
WussupVoltage
Does it sound good with an American accent?
FookinRocketScientist
It sounds absolutely great!
SammiElPadre
The funniest I've ever heard was a guy from Texas who learned german in Bavaria and then lived in Hessian.
outsidecucumber
Learning German in Bavaria? Do they offer it as foreign language there?
Nepeta33
ive been to germany, its a truely stunning place to be and live. so yes, be proud. though im betting the weather isnt as bad as new england
ObscuraNox
The weather in germany pretty much only comes in two varieties: Freezing your ass off, or getting roasted by the sun.
Nepeta33
ours does that cycle, every five min. i visited there in the summer, and yeah, i agree it was roasting.
ObscuraNox
Its only summer for like 2 months, so its okay i guess xD
Theguybehindthecurtain
Still not as bad as Canada.
IDontSeeEnoughDarkTowerOnImgur
HAHAHAHA, I'm from Florida, my 3 summers in Germany are the nicest I've seen in my life. You "roast" for like two weeks. Winter is dreary.
hannes3120
that's it - you think how nice the weather is and how you'll enjoy it on the weekend - and if the weekend comes the good weather is over...
AllottaFagina
When my sister and I went to Europe, we drank beer for 3 weeks straight...for this reason...haha
IAlwaysFavouriteDogs
And you guys have Daniel Bruhl, so that's also good. Well, for me, anyway. *sighs contentedly*
Spanked84
Stop. I already wanted to move to Germany before. You're just making it worse.
ObscuraNox
But i didnt even mention the thousands of bakeries D:
Airscape
I actually really like german people and the country of Germany, i dont think the majority of germans are nazi sympathizers so who cares :)
Airscape
in fact i would say with our KKK and that bullshit we might have more neo-nazis in the US than in germany
Shepsus
I'm German American, and I would love to visit your country some day OP. Be proud, I am and I wasn't even born there.
NakoSunao
So are the women! (runs away)
ThatBabyDontLookLikeMe
TIL: I like Germany too.
swatz
I'm sorry bud. I'm happy you're a proud German. I'm a proud American with primarily German roots. I hope to visit Germany one day and 1/
swatz
2/ we'll wave our flags together. When people shun us, we'll drink til we don't care. :)
raspymorten
What about over here in "Danemark"
SavageCorona
Right I am fucking going to Germany. I'll be at your house in about 5 hours
ObscuraNox
Should i prepare dinner?
SavageCorona
Give me your finest bratwurst and ale
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SavageCorona
Put all of this in my mouth baby
MyImaginationOnAFreeRun
Lots of bread but do you have Rugbrød? 8}
ObscuraNox
Never heard of it o: Do you have Pumpernickel?
MyImaginationOnAFreeRun
I have heard that word before! But no clue.
Simnut94
I loved living in Germany! I want to live there again.
plzwhateverisokforme
Your situation is not only in Germany. In France, we didnt do the Shoah but we have the exact same reaction to toward our flag. So weird.
ObscuraNox
Thats really a shame. Ive been in france once, and even have family there! I think its a beautiful country.
TheFrenchGirl
I concur. We had the "Vichy government" during WW2, the cheater who let the nazi come in because they admire them, and they force French 1/?
TheFrenchGirl
in Italy because of Mussolini's period... 4/4
TheFrenchGirl
and moreover, only the extreme right wing with Le Pen wawe the flag outside commemorations. Some Italians fellows told me it's the same 3/?
TheFrenchGirl
people into horrible things, while teaching children to bow to "work, family, patry". Now we have the fear to let it slip to that again, 2/?
julkinen
I still have a few bottles of Oettinger left from the summer. :)
PennnnnyLane
TRUE
zongor
And your beer doesnt taste like water; unlike some popular USA ones
gandalfthegraygray
may be going to munich in february at which point i will be 18 so alcohol is gonna be fun
ObscuraNox
Hah, you dont even need to be 18 to drink beer here. At the age of 16 youre good to go xD
gandalfthegraygray
i know that, i check alcohol laws for germany a few days ago but i dont like beer unless it is the really nice stuff so whisky and vodka me
ObscuraNox
Ah, i see :P Dont worry, there will be plenty
GrowlingCat
I don't see why you shouldn't be proud of saying where you are from. I have been a few times to Germany and met so many lovely people there.
beNNub
You had me at beer
TehAccountant
i found my spiritual home land...
kahavi
The beer is also really, really, REALLY good.
SteampunkContraption
My brother will be going to Germany on a trip for business. Any recommendations on beer he should try?
kaesekuchenmann
Holsten and Jever from the north. Kölsch from the west (sorry i´m from cologne so i have to say it). some popular Pils like krombacher
ObscuraNox
Franziskaner, Paulaner, Karlsberg and Bitburger are very popular
SteampunkContraption
Alright, I'll let him know. Thank you very much!
TacoBellBalls
how much does it cost for a pint at a pub/bar? in your currency
ObscuraNox
*5 bucks, not 50. My bad.
ObscuraNox
That really depends where you are, and what kind of beer you want. You can get pretty much everything, ranging from 20 cents to 50 bucks
TacoBellBalls
holy crap that is cheap
TacoBellBalls
as a California U.S. citizen
ObscuraNox
http://www.bierclub.net/bilder_bier/1120_2006-05-20_Ratskrone_Pilsener.jpg that is one of those "cheaper" beers. you get it for 1/2
ObscuraNox
0,25€ per bottle. 2/2
atRderpson
only in bars, not in the supermarket.
exsqueezeme
Not in Berlin
PennnnnyLane
Or Globus, Aldi, Lidl, etc...beer is often the same price or cheaper than bottled water.
EmzeexD
You just gotta shop at Aldi god I love Aldi its the thing I'm guna miss the most when I leave
EmzeexD
I bought a beer today for 29 cents today in a German supermarket. Beer is fucking cheap!! Like seriously cheap. I really love Germany!
ittybittywitty
That's not true. There is a law called Apfelsaftgesetz and at least one Non-alcoholic has to be cheaper than the cheapest alcoholic drink
Abraxxas
Actually, beer is ridiculously cheap even in the supermarket compared to water. I know first hand when I went there 2 years ago.
atRderpson
i should know better since i am german
Abraxxas
Then things must have changed. When I was there last, beer was 1 to 1 1/2 Euro in markets in several cities, water more in 3 Euro range.
atRderpson
i never saw water for 3 euro before in my life, the water i buy is arounf 29 cents per 500ml bottle
Erilis
yeah but people only go to bars. I don't think there even are any supermarkets in Germany, it's just all bars.
kesselschlacht
nah man nah when I lived in Berlin beer at the Reichelt Supermarkt was cheap as shit
StarSpangeledAbroad
Bull. . 88€ für ein 1L Bier? Das ist billig!!
ben9105
Sehr billig.
ruferto
... you have to pay for water in bars? o_O
atRderpson
yes of course, we also only like sparkling water :P
Malkiot
If it's mineral water, yes. If it's tap water you may be charged a nominal service fee since the work is the same as for any other drink.
reyzidlp
Not sure about German law, but bavarian law forbids to charge on tap water in any gastronomic environment. If you tip tho it's appreciated.
Malkiot
That's incorrect.
Hotchy2
Actually, they have to give you tap water without a fee if you really need it, or you could go to court.
Malkiot
If you need it, as in you're at risk of fainting/dieing. If they don't that'd be "unterlassene Hilfeleistung". Otherwise, no, they don't.
ladiwr
I don't know where you got that Information from but it's wrong.At the supermarket you can buy Beer for as low as 0.80€ , in a bar 2.30€
atRderpson
got the information from beeing german
ladiwr
well I'm german too this would be actually the first time that the beer in a bar was cheeper then in the supermarket. Where do you live?
atRderpson
Es geht nicht um den Vergleich Bierpreis im Supermarkt/Bar. Es ging darum das in Bars ein Bier meisten weniger kostet als ein Wasser. (1)
atRderpson
Und im Supermarkt ist Wasser billiger als Bier. Natürlich ist Bier im Supermarkt billiger als in einer Kneipe.
TheLivinLegend
Wait--in Germany it's cheaper to go to a bar and drink? What sorcery is all this?
hannes3120
no - buying beer in a bar is cheaper than buying water in a bar - but buying it in the supermarket water is cheaper
TheLivinLegend
Gotcha. Tapwater is typically free in America. Is.. is tapwater free in German bars? I want that to be so.
ItsaBear
you dont get tap water in germany really. but a seltzer like water. because the tap is heavy on the calcium
SammiElPadre
No, but the price for beer is lower than for water in most bars.
reyzidlp
I know this is one year old. But by German law water or another non alcoholic beverage HAS to be cheaper than any alcoholic drink
gwhoisj
You have to pay for water?! wtf
ImNotMrLebowskiYoureMrLebowskiImTheDude
If you've had a few drinks, they should be happy to give you a free glass of water, since it will keep you hydrated.
Hotchy2
You don't, if you just want normal tap water ( Which is perfectly safe here) Only for sparkly water. But most germans like sparky so..
Elvirana
Actually there is a law here in Germany that the cheapest drink has to be without alcohol.
monochrony
this.
SammiElPadre
We don´t consider beer as alcohol, it´s a basic food
RafaelDeLaGhetto
except for Adelskrone, which is the cheapest motherf*cker of all
YamiNoKeshin
Pfui!
kaesekuchenmann
Turmbräu (Burgbräu) FTW
BayazTheBenevolent
Öttinger though. 0,30€ per bottle!
idrinkcheapbeer
Tell me more about this Adelskrone.
RafaelDeLaGhetto
it's a beer brand of a german dicount chain. it can't compete with the 'good' beers but it's not that bad, and really cheap. ...
RafaelDeLaGhetto
...like 32 cents for a 0.5 L can. and that's the main reason to buy it D:
atRderpson
is that this pisswater you get from ALDI? :D
RafaelDeLaGhetto
from Penny :D
atRderpson
Nevermind. Just realised i drive past a Penny Markt everyday when going to work. :D
atRderpson
Wasn't Penny bought by Rewe? Haven't seen Penny for a long time.
justanotheroneofthosegenericlongusernames
It's not completely different in England. A lot of people are scared to show national pride due to the risk of looking like an EDL member.
ObscuraNox
Thats really a shame. I havent been in England yet, but there are some places that just look gorgeos, not to mention all the cool stuff 1/2
ObscuraNox
all the cool stuff you guys have, like madame tussaud. We have something similiar here...but its kinda hard to explain "Körperwelten"
justanotheroneofthosegenericlongusernames
I googled Körperwelten, it looks cool but also kinda scary haha.
ObscuraNox
sounding like a maniac.
ObscuraNox
Yep, it is xD Its kinda like a museum..filled with body parts. and as far as i know, REAL body parts. try describing that without 1/2
skellious
this was my biggest problem visiting germany in 40C heat. I'm used to free water in bars. I really miss breakfast in a bakery though!
ObscuraNox
Yes, thats a good point. I was really surprised that you get water for free outside of germany in restaurants. To be fair, you dont have 1/2
ObscuraNox
to tip nearly as much here, because the minimum pays are higher.
skellious
I'm from the UK. we tip about as often as you do. The law here doesn't require bars to provide water as such but most councils issue bar 1/2
skellious
licenses with a stipulation that they have to offer free water if they serve alcoholic drinks. so many people here think it's the law 2/2
ObscuraNox
I wish that would be the case here. If we would do that, id actually go into a bar xD
skellious
I don't know how it is in other parts of germany but I was pleased to see lots of alcohol-free beer on my visit to Koeln!
skellious
also, every time I go to germany I get addicted to multivitamin juice and you just cant get the same quality and price here in the UK.