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FiveShiftOne
I prefer my boomer humor from shitty facebook screengrabs.
KevinStrexcorp
Turns out the physics factory wasn't hiring either. Fortunately, the software companies were.
zenoshogun
apLundell
Studying something that interested you probably made sense back when you could pay for school by working on weekends.
Lampmonster
Eric, bad things don't happen to you because you're unlucky. Bad things happen to you because you're a dumbass.
RobErtE87
I mean. everything used to be philosophy. Charles Darwin was a Nautral philosopher as was Isaac Noot'n (noot noot) and many other scientists
keppler38
Joblessness: not only for philosophy majors anymore!
Jbelkin
Companies now like hiring philosophy majors as they learn steps of reasoning ...
hairlessOrphan
Killing off liberal arts is a big part of why everything's f'ed. They helped us think past how things are to define how things should be.
SometimesOthertimesAnytime
My philosophy professor told us that philosophy majors are quite apt at thinking deep thoughts about unemployment.
CorporealPunishment
What I learned in the classroom at college has been largely irrelevant to my career. But I wouldn't be where I am today without having went.
ChristopherHallett
A few years later she died of a drug overdose.
JunkFoodVanDame
credits to employers who fully understand how benificial logical processing can affect working environments.
mymomsaregay
I went on to get a PhD in philosophy and still ended up doing something completely different bc the academic job market is so bad.
BDisthebestman
As a philosophy major, I regret having to do corporate law now instead of one of those sweet factory jobs.
saturatedcottonballs
Ah, you got into law school, could pay for it, then got into those highly competitive, corporate jobs. What % of phil majors end up there?
saturatedcottonballs
For those that don't, what do you think happens to them?
tortfeasor
Are you me? Because when that stack of 10-Ks and Def 14As hits my desk, I regret many, many of the choices I've made.
florpglorp
people cut ass on humanities majors, but they know what they are getting into and get out of college, usually what they expect to get.
florpglorp
if going to college to learn philosphy and stuff makes them happy, more power to them. I went to engineering school and have been unemployed
florpglorp
ever since I graduated 2 years ago. I think college is a scam no matter how you cut it monetarily, but atleast they enjoyed themselves.
dohcohv
I know an art major(business minor) from my HS, she was an art director for a video game company at 27. I'm going back for an accounting
dohcohv
Degree, and it's all being paid for by grants. I already have a job lined up for when I graduate.
florpglorp
good for her. STEM is a scam. I hope I die soon
MrZev
PhD. Doctor of Philosophy. Which makes it funny to have a PhD in philosophy. Doctor of Philosophy in philosophy.
xizar
It's an Australian thing.
MrZev
The philosophy of philosophy.
Arcian
It's pretty disgusting that education has become synonymous with job preparation instead of what it actually is, the pursuit of knowledge.
Arcian
The economic usefulness of the knowledge should not be the metric by which the value of the knowledge is measured.
Smartnership
That kind of education is so important that it’s made freely available through books, online free classes, and so forth.
LooseyGooseyBrett
Hello (from) Wisconsin
AdultPersistentAngst
RIP in peace
M2THE49
PIN number
iLikeTurtlesAndPizza
LED diode
goldfish408
LED light
yuugian
Rest in RIP
JKGoose
She died in a car accident
AdultPersistentAngst
No she didn't. She died in her sleep after an overdose on a combination of drugs
JKGoose
Your right I must have been thinking of someone else. Thanks for the correction.
jaystevens137
ATM machine
jekath
Rest in peace in peace?
DasSpasseste
Rest In Peace + peace = peaces. Rest In Peaces
TheWhiteBarry
Go to the ATM machine and enter your PIN number
DildoRodeo
RIP: Rest in RIP In PeAc3
Cortezdelanoche
Did he stutter?
FantasticWay
^ Genuine question
AMBM2
They do make great candidates for law school though
tortfeasor
Yup, this is what I did. In hind sight, I should have made my minor my major and just learned how to do math better. I minored in Econ, FYI.
AMBM2
Well a major in economics would have had a better chance of getting you a job without law school, but it seems it worked out for you anyway
Fengor
Yup, I roomed with 3 law-school students for a year and their undergraduate degrees were in philosophy.
AMBM2
Makes sense. Both because it teaches you to think logically, and because honestly it doesn’t directly lead to as many jobs as other degrees
Mexrose75
Yeap.
Smartnership
Yeap. Leap. Heap.
Smartnership
Thank goodness our national lawyer shortage may soon come to an end.
AMBM2
Lol!
wakeforthesun
The philosophy majors were the most annoying law school classmates, though
AMBM2
Why’s that?
wakeforthesun
I love talking about ideas, but I think philosophy majors are trained to approach ideas by comparing them to concepts they already /1
wakeforthesun
understand instead of appreciating/analyzing them for what they are. Which is a useful skill for an academic approach to the law, but /2
wakeforthesun
makes having a conversation with them frustrating/inaccessible if you don’t have that background. But that’s just my experience! /3
funktasticbeast
I think therfore I am employed.
Machi4vel
Fuck those philosophy big plants, killing small businesses
Daddymememaster1
In all levels except physical, I earn 400K annually.
drunkbs
"Stand a little out of my sun."
celestedrake
As a philosophy of math major, I am a programmer now. And yeah it is useful.
Boksha
Physics major, philosophy minor and software dev here; like 60% of my dev colleagues have non-IT backgrounds. Specific to IT though I guess.
elemcsere
I work in clinical research. Hardest working colleague has philosophy major.
moonglum
psych major, now programmer
DavidBrooker
A liberal art - in the classical sense - is any field not associated with a specific profession (to distinguish it in universities, at 1/n
DavidBrooker
the time, from the trio of law, medicine, and divinity). In principle, this includes mathematics, physics, biology, chemistry, and many 2/n
DavidBrooker
others that don't have "factories", but which nevertheless avoid the above criticism. It's clear from that fact alone that direct job 3/n
DavidBrooker
training is not, and hasn't ever been, either the point, nor the criticism. 4/4
Philosopherott
BA in philosophy, 5 years environmental testing/ health and safety for some of the largest petroleum co. Jumped industries and work at ...
Philosopherott
Goliath bank doing tax analysis. Work payed for masters Taxation and Financial planning. Same bank now doing software automation. Philosophy
hammersquirrel
It’s almost like having analytical skills and the ability to think hard about logical problems is incredibly useful
AMBM2
When was this? I agree it’s useful to think critically but I don’t think it’s very employable anymore. Most philosophy students I met
AMBM2
Tried for law school or further education, or ended up in minimum wage jobs
saturatedcottonballs
Don't forget the crippling debt.
Philosopherott
BA was 07
quzar
When I studied philosophy most of my classmates were stoners/new agey/scatterbrains or treating it as a 'default' major.
saturatedcottonballs
You're describing an exception not the rule. I suspect you have a staggering amount of luck, connections, ect that led to success
Philosopherott
Def some luck, privilege, and networking. Not saying "You can make it happen" just saying it can happen. Most of peers from BA are gain...
Philosopherott
...fully employed. Some as professors, some in government, some in random stuff like me.
CaptainThePirate
I never got this joke category. Philosophy, sociology, art, these degrees can make $$$ in corporate worlds. It’s a dumb joke by dumb people.
WhatImmadoboutmylegs
"can". I would be interested to see the average ROI on one of those degrees vs. STEM.
saturatedcottonballs
This.
CaptainThePirate
Sure but like, the joke comes from old coots and their kin who think college degrees are for like; leaning to use a paint can machine.
KyleZombie
What if everyone was a STEM major? Society needs more than that.
Shiggy345
Imagine going to school to gain knowledge and expand your perspective.
mwreckless
Books are a lot more affordable...
UncleRat
Think on your own time. When you're in college, you're on the clock whether you know it or not.
SomeDetroitGuy
In the 70s, this absolutely made sense. Today, you can gain everything you need from the Internet.
Asterus
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Are you implying that the purpose of education isn't to mass produce a complacent and indebted workforce? S/
CompletelyUniqueUsername
No. It's to sell a product whether or not that results in employment. They could care less about your debt.
HobbesAP
...like a chump?
TheMagicalUpvoteFearie
you havent watched the show have you
Phlynch
Imagine spending thousands of dollars for information that will do nothing to help you make that back, 1/2
Phlynch
When you could instead learn an actual skill that will support you, and read books about thinking in your free time?
Shiggy345
Imagine thinking knowledge is only valuable as a means, and has no inherent value.
izzatme
Or you could READ. It's a lot cheaper than 6 figures of forever debt.
SugarRay59
The point of universities was to provide a platform for the exchange of thoughts. Reading is a one-way exchange. There is a difference.
BroHamm
Maybe it’s me but I can’t afford to go to JUST expand my knowledge. That knowledge had a price and if I can’t get a job with it I’m screwed.
JakeRoads
The commoditizing of education really has made that statement true when it ought to be what Asterus said. A'course there are electives...
nemesisx00
Welcome to capitalism...
GiftedGoldfish
I just gave up 7 years of my life in the military and the government paid me to expand my knowledge in wildlife.
HelpfulCorn
Exactly. This is why my degree is in math and not dance
textilelover
Any bachelor's will help you get most entry level white collar jobs. It'll take a couple years to work your way up, but having learned (1
textilelover
to think/give your superiors the information they were looking for/ work with others in a stressful environment will help with that. (2
FurgleBurgle
That's a problem with our society. People should be able to learn what they are best suited to learn, then apply that in the real world
FurgleBurgle
Universities shouldn't just be Engineer, Finance, and Manager mills because those are the most likely to get jobs
redstaterefugee
Yeah, there is a pretty solid privilege/non-privilege dividing line in that statement.
Shiggy345
It's true that education access is privileged and many people can't afford to pursue learning for learning's sake. But it doesn't have to be
GarytheGrammarCactus
Truth-Grew up middle class. Majored in English. Got an MA, but need a PhD for a full time job where I don’t ask if you want fries with that.
GarytheGrammarCactus
Not that the phd guarantees the job; it just helps get one if/when they are available.
textilelover
That's not true, it just won't be in academia. I have an MA in art history, I work in fundraising, not fast food.
Youhavinagiraffe
Yeah fuck everyone who doesn't bow to the capitalist take on education as trained employee factories. Pink Floyd can suck it
Shiggy345
Wasnt Pink Floyd critical of schools being only for job/career prep?
Youhavinagiraffe
Me sarcastically telling them to "suck it" doesn't make much sense if they hadn't done the thing I was telling them to "suck it" for.
redstaterefugee
Imagine believing that you can only do that by majoring in something useless.
FurgleBurgle
Philosophy is the father of science. A philosopher should understand the fundamentals of the scientific method better than anyone.
TorrentialUpPour
Philosophy is very important and everyone should have some experience with it. But that's dramatically different from majoring in it.
Septcanmat
As somebody with a degree in Engineering Physics and took every philosophy elective I could: yah, no, that’s not right at all. The
Septcanmat
Philosophy of Science prof had the worst handle on ‘science’ of anyone I’ve ever met. Im not gonna say that that’s universally the case, but
Septcanmat
I will say that plenty of scientists and engineers - the people who actually DO science for a living - have a pretty good handle on the
IamJACKSventedSPLEEN
I majored in Philosophy. I’ve earned a good living as an IT exec for many years….who knew?
doAngelsFart
Masters in philosophy and had a six figure job for ten years now. Turns out critical thinking skills are valued. Who knew!?
textilelover
Hubs has a history degree, he makes good $ working IT for a major wireless carrier.
AMBM2
One question: when did those many years begin? I know a lot of people who tried philosophy, most ended up going into further education
AMBM2
Or worked minimum wage/ retail
quzar
Not OP, but I got my current mid-salaried job at a tech firm based on my philosophy UG degree. At the same time 'philosophy' is a really >
quzar
> wide umbrella. I specialized in analytic philosophy and logic. Someone doing epistemology might have a harder time. I could also imagine >
quzar
> a lot of my colleagues in phil UG courses who treated it as naval staring and cloud analysis would have trouble finding jobs as well.
IamJACKSventedSPLEEN
I started my career in 1989 - was planning on going to law school, but my dad died clouding financials...
AMBM2
That could explain it. Getting a job with an arts degree in 1989 and in 2021 are two very different stories
IamJACKSventedSPLEEN
100%. I would not claim the environment was the same then as it is today. I was actively recruited from my college with a lib arts degree.
IamJACKSventedSPLEEN
And, I graduated Summa...
IamJACKSventedSPLEEN
Also, I was 1 of 9M with degrees, and not one of 15M
justherefortheconfession
My dad's favorite joke while I was an undergrad philosophy major: How do you get the philosopher off your porch?
TheJuiceLoosener
It's a cute joke but phil majors earn a higher median salary than chemists, geologists, IT, accountants, and architects.
TheJuiceLoosener
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/visualizing-salaries-college-degrees/
tortfeasor
Philosophy, sending kids to law school since... Well, since lawyers have been a thing. I know this for a fact, as this is what I did.
tortfeasor
Maybe one day I will stop regretting it. Maybe...
drucifer0
Philosophy advisor for my alma mater was also the pre-law advisor, checks out.
Nick3571
The thing they have in common is they love talking.
PerkyPervertedPet
What does a philosopher without job say to a philosopher with job? "One cheezburger with fries and ketchup, please."
Nuclearwaste9
Excellent.
justherefortheconfession
A: Pay for your pizza
Criscartersfallguys
Yeah sounds like your dad mighta been kinda a dick.
pyroshen
Why?
SpiceSlag
Theres a cliché that studying Philosophy is useless and shitty parents will make jokes about your life choices compared to theirs.
pyroshen
Why?
SpiceSlag
Why you little! I just got it.
xcrit
What’s the difference between a philosophy major and a large pizza?
ClamScam
A large pie can feed a family of four?
Kwaj
I've always said, "What's the difference between a large pizza and the guy making it?" But then, I am the guy making it.
xcrit
My dad use to say it about drummers.
CorvidPrime
My father majored in philosophy. He ended up as a woodcrafter.
EmptyHouseBurglar
Majored in philosophy and computer science. Got three more grad degrees after. Suggestion: pair phil with a tech skill, blend.
Kronzor
So jokes on that first father. Now the philosopher is building the porch!
jamesdark1365
You made me chuckle. Haha!
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CorvidPrime
I majored in psychology and now do computer work for a major MEP engineering company. Weird indeed.
thatguywhohasnoname
JESUS
CorvidPrime
Hahahaha He would be greatly amused by this comparison…
JustFeedMePieDammit
But we’re his pieces thought-provoking?
GazongaGizmo
yeah, they split the room
JustFeedMePieDammit
Ugh, were*******
CorvidPrime
Not really… They were very nice, but definitely not philosophical. Except for the one piece he made for me when I started studying Daoism…
makeiteasykeepitsleazy
My moms was “what do you call a Philosophy major? Waitress.”
Canucklesammich
Don't worry, she minored in Theatre
vash77
nemesisx00
Isn't capitalism great?
GoYotes
I don't get it
Phelpysan
Not only has capitalism meant that people can't do what they're actually interested in, because they have to work, but people joke about it
TorrentialUpPour
"I don't get it" is a common phrase uttered in leftist countries. Especially with regards to food.