I was taken apart from my just married wife in my honey moon travel just for 20 minutes at Newark for no reason and treated as a piece of shit, and it was in 2015 with Barack Obama. I will never ever ever come back, I feel sorry for the good guys I know they live there.
This does not worry to me, I even do not think on travelling to USA. Just a brief check on my phone memory would make their gestapo take me right to Guantanamo.
That's messed up. Why are Americans supporting this lawlessness? "Guilty by association?!" That's absurd! Did she even know her husband's visa was expired? Is the government going to pursue legal action against the airline and car rental company and everyone who crossed their path for assisting? Something needs to be done about this administration who thinks the law doesn't matter and everyone's lives are their playthings.
If the Orange shitler is still in office by 2028 the Summer Olympics are going to be a giant fucking disaster. No other country is going to come visit the US with him in charge and with ICE agents waiting outside stadiums to detain visitors.
I’ve never been to the US. I was considering it, then Trump was reelected. I’m thinking I will avoid it until: -foreigners are safe to go there -Republicans are out of power -there has been a truth and reconciliation process -the queue to urinate on Trump’s grave is under 45 minutes.
The Grandfather let his passport lapse, the Grandmother was 100% within the law, and they arrested her anyway, so that the reason for the focus on her.
Look, theres a lot of fearmongering and false information out there, and a lot of people trying to push agendas, I live here in america, I have first hand experience here and have a pretty solid understanding of what its like here. Let me tell you, listen to what these fuckers are saying, why the fuck would you even wanna come here to begin with? we have a swath of neo nazis in charge of our government that are ignoring any semblance of laws we have to fuck with those they dont like. stay way
I have a couple friends that live in Brazil that are planning on traveling here in July. I've been trying to talk them out of it, to maybe wait till this is over. They're not listening right now but I sure hope they change their mind.
Try telling them Trump was trying to get Bolsonaro(spelling ?) acquitted. Considering how he fucked over Brazil, would they want to go to a country where its leader thought he was a good guy?
Six weeks? For many people (although maybe not ones that can afford international travel) six weeks incarceration (assuming the holiday wasn't six weeks) would leave you unemployed and if you were in a rental potentially homeless also. Shits fucked
And they have quotas to meet. They used to detain a few hundred people per day in 2025, now they have to detain four figures. Which means as they increasingly run out of undocumented people, they'll widen their criteria – all brown residents regardless of legal status (already happening), then all tourists with valid visas etc. – until they're detaining anyone who doesn't look like a trump supporter. With a big sweep right before the midterms
This is not the exception from what I have read of other tourists who end up in this situation. They could just throw the person on the next plane. But no. The sadism is the point. Also I bet someone is making bank.
Back in better days, as Finnish nationals, we've enjoyed several long tourist road trips in the United States, to places like Cape Canaveral, Yellowstone, Glacier National Park, and the Pacific Coast Highway. The natural natural vistas were wonderful, and so were the people we met. Unfortunately I can't see any such trips in the future, just like I can't imagine visiting Russia or the PRC, unless the political situation radically changes.
A Canadian woman made a minor error on her work Visa and was detained for weeks, moved around through dozens of private prison facilities (for-profit concentration camps) in multiple states, her family and lawyer had trouble finding out where she was. This shit is insane. I keep getting increasingly desperate tourism sector ads, "please come to USA, please come to washington, we're not like that, give us your canadian tourism dollars pleeeeeaze". Not gonna happen. USA economy is gonna crash hard
FL tourism has been affected already. Universal and Disney both have less international guests. Unfortunately where I live all the MAGAts come to vacation so we still have to deal with shitty tourists flying Trump flags. 🙄
Everything he is doing is affecting multiple sectors of your economy in many ways. Tariffs of course have a big negative impact, but also everything else he is doing. Masked secret police kidnapping people with impunity is not good for business. It scares away tourists and also essential workers that keep the economy running. Threatening the sovereignty of close allies isn't good for business. He will bankrupt your country like it was one of his casinos. Even after he's gone, we can't trust USA
Because any trade deal could be broken by the next president, any negotiation is only guaranteed to last for 4 years or less until the next insane GOP administration decides to throw it in the trash. If it had been only 1 term of trump, the world could maybe view it as an anomaly, back to business after that. But he was elected again, so we know USA is unstable and untrustworthy on the world stage. We don't even know if we are safe from being attacked over fake Casus Belli reasons like fentanyl.
Good. I went to the US once. IT was fine. San Diego zoo was great and i got to see seals so close at the beach. Loved the experience. Not eager to ever repeat it because it's now the 4th reich.
Summer Olympics in CA during 2028 is gonna be a mess and honestly i'd say non americans shouldnt go as the risk isnt worth the time or money...just watch it online.
Why worry? Sorry, but everyone traveling to the US currently or for the WC should know better. The news, that the US are not safe for travel are all over the news in the world. If you decide to go there, then its your own fault
Yeah its kinda like people trying to christianize the sentinelese and getting turned into pincushions instead. Like its kinda sad but at some point you knew what you signed up for
FIFA is basically the Trump of sports' organizations, so of course they'd love Trump. The "peace prize" was basically a bribe to him to keep him from having any of the FIFA people there harassed by ICE. They wouldn't give a shit what happens to the players, coaching staff, or fans.
Also, a sizeable portion of the soccer/football fan base in America are Latinos. They aren't going to want to hang out in a large group when a bunch of ICE will be patrolling the stadiums. 1
If you really want it to tank, you will need to get fans on board with boycotting watching the games in their native countries. That will hurt them more than merely having a bunch of empty seats.
I know what you are trying to say but saying they fucked up implies that it was not intentional and that is far from the truth in many cases unfortunately
Not really trying. Not at all. The number of sustainability summits America has blocked, sanctions placed on any country developing socialism, private equity destroying foreign industries so American companies can move in introducing American Labour practices. Not remotely trying. Not one bit. But lying to yourselves that you're good...
Black Lives Matter was a decade ago. They warned you about police brutality and you did nothing and now it's in your neighbourhood. And the 50% that didn't vote for Trump? 50% of them didn't vote all. So. Explain to me how you were "trying" to be good?
Wait, were the racists the half trying to be good? Or how does Trump's permissibility influence the 50% trying to be good? Look man, just take the L. American supremacy has destroyed our world. You've destroyed South America, continued Europe's destruction of Africa and Western Asia. And never forget that the entire country is built on the bones of indigenous people, on the backs of chattel slaves. If you were trying to be good, you failed miserably.
Kdvdp
Too socialist to ever return. But I have to say, half a year for an internship was plenty of America for a lifetime
Gonna miss your state parks though. They beautiful
bexxMaker
ThatGuyFromJustSouthOfTheMiddleOfNowhere
demosteness
I was taken apart from my just married wife in my honey moon travel just for 20 minutes at Newark for no reason and treated as a piece of shit, and it was in 2015 with Barack Obama. I will never ever ever come back, I feel sorry for the good guys I know they live there.
Ardback
This does not worry to me, I even do not think on travelling to USA. Just a brief check on my phone memory would make their gestapo take me right to Guantanamo.
denshigomi
That's messed up. Why are Americans supporting this lawlessness? "Guilty by association?!" That's absurd! Did she even know her husband's visa was expired? Is the government going to pursue legal action against the airline and car rental company and everyone who crossed their path for assisting? Something needs to be done about this administration who thinks the law doesn't matter and everyone's lives are their playthings.
BlackCatSerenade99900
How else will these bastards profit off the massive wearhouse detention centers if they don't start arresting everyone?? /s
FTUG
If the Orange shitler is still in office by 2028 the Summer Olympics are going to be a giant fucking disaster. No other country is going to come visit the US with him in charge and with ICE agents waiting outside stadiums to detain visitors.
jmacg
I’ve never been to the US. I was considering it, then Trump was reelected. I’m thinking I will avoid it until:
-foreigners are safe to go there
-Republicans are out of power
-there has been a truth and reconciliation process
-the queue to urinate on Trump’s grave is under 45 minutes.
biggiej
This story really should say "Grandmother and Grandfather..." lol, its all about her, but her husband also went through this.
Axiomatic13
The Grandfather let his passport lapse, the Grandmother was 100% within the law, and they arrested her anyway, so that the reason for the focus on her.
BeTheFirstToComment
Caught smuggling crumpets
pt2016
Here is the thing:
Europeans actually trusted USA for a long time, partly because of WW2. Europeans will NEVER trust USA again, nor will any other country.
Only time will tell the consequences.
The world hasn’t forgotten Hitler and that was 80 years ago.
LaughingMan2Gig
As per article "ICE officers are paid a bonus every time they detain someone"
3HourShower
They get $ per head in lockup. You know the're gonna expand their "audience". More people more $$$. Isn't that how private prisons work?
Renza0
Look, theres a lot of fearmongering and false information out there, and a lot of people trying to push agendas, I live here in america, I have first hand experience here and have a pretty solid understanding of what its like here. Let me tell you, listen to what these fuckers are saying, why the fuck would you even wanna come here to begin with? we have a swath of neo nazis in charge of our government that are ignoring any semblance of laws we have to fuck with those they dont like. stay way
ap592
I have a couple friends that live in Brazil that are planning on traveling here in July. I've been trying to talk them out of it, to maybe wait till this is over. They're not listening right now but I sure hope they change their mind.
Athol
Try telling them Trump was trying to get Bolsonaro(spelling ?) acquitted. Considering how he fucked over Brazil, would they want to go to a country where its leader thought he was a good guy?
UpvoteTotem
Wish we could all vote again right now so we don't have to wait anymore for him to be gone...
Zixtank
I wasn't gonna visit anyone until he's dead, buried and pissed on, but this makes me wanna go even less.
chinesemario
Six weeks? For many people (although maybe not ones that can afford international travel) six weeks incarceration (assuming the holiday wasn't six weeks) would leave you unemployed and if you were in a rental potentially homeless also. Shits fucked
JamesAHarrod
Do not come to America, do not leave America (might not be let back in)
Hatlled
Not let back in?
FINE WITH ME.
ImmaCatImmaSexyCat
If you can leave America and have a life somewhere else, that might be better.
seldombeaton
Might be? For certain it would be.
Junktrunkjunkie
If I leave America... I'm not coming back.
KerryCoder
I left America and am not coming back. Ended up going to grad school even though I didn't want to just to get a valid visa somewhere.
originalhuman
I’m glad you left
mikeatike
You mean you are glad for them, or...?
totaleclipseofdescartes
Sauce https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/feb/21/karen-newton-valid-visa-detained-ice
TREXSEXISARMLESS
This is appalling
HeadJamistan
Wow they get bonuses based on the number of people they detain? Holy fuck
TheDoctorCrankenstein
Just like the cops!
IupvoteAussies
$30K apparently, 2:52
https://youtu.be/nX7I4znDOKk?si=VLjj_TjR0FyI2Rlb
FiftyShadesOfBroccoli
And they have quotas to meet. They used to detain a few hundred people per day in 2025, now they have to detain four figures. Which means as they increasingly run out of undocumented people, they'll widen their criteria – all brown residents regardless of legal status (already happening), then all tourists with valid visas etc. – until they're detaining anyone who doesn't look like a trump supporter. With a big sweep right before the midterms
originalhuman
Always has been the case
ImmaCatImmaSexyCat
SIX WEEKS? Holy shit. Six hours would be worth getting pissed off. Six weeks is absolutely insane.
TREXSEXISARMLESS
Because they get a BONUS for it.
Hrafna55
This is not the exception from what I have read of other tourists who end up in this situation. They could just throw the person on the next plane. But no. The sadism is the point. Also I bet someone is making bank.
ExTechOp
Back in better days, as Finnish nationals, we've enjoyed several long tourist road trips in the United States, to places like Cape Canaveral, Yellowstone, Glacier National Park, and the Pacific Coast Highway. The natural natural vistas were wonderful, and so were the people we met.
Unfortunately I can't see any such trips in the future, just like I can't imagine visiting Russia or the PRC, unless the political situation radically changes.
Rhythmaster
A Canadian woman made a minor error on her work Visa and was detained for weeks, moved around through dozens of private prison facilities (for-profit concentration camps) in multiple states, her family and lawyer had trouble finding out where she was. This shit is insane. I keep getting increasingly desperate tourism sector ads, "please come to USA, please come to washington, we're not like that, give us your canadian tourism dollars pleeeeeaze". Not gonna happen. USA economy is gonna crash hard
MadamPuddifoot
FL tourism has been affected already. Universal and Disney both have less international guests. Unfortunately where I live all the MAGAts come to vacation so we still have to deal with shitty tourists flying Trump flags. 🙄
Rhythmaster
Everything he is doing is affecting multiple sectors of your economy in many ways. Tariffs of course have a big negative impact, but also everything else he is doing. Masked secret police kidnapping people with impunity is not good for business. It scares away tourists and also essential workers that keep the economy running. Threatening the sovereignty of close allies isn't good for business. He will bankrupt your country like it was one of his casinos. Even after he's gone, we can't trust USA
Rhythmaster
Because any trade deal could be broken by the next president, any negotiation is only guaranteed to last for 4 years or less until the next insane GOP administration decides to throw it in the trash. If it had been only 1 term of trump, the world could maybe view it as an anomaly, back to business after that. But he was elected again, so we know USA is unstable and untrustworthy on the world stage. We don't even know if we are safe from being attacked over fake Casus Belli reasons like fentanyl.
ImmaCatImmaSexyCat
Good. I went to the US once. IT was fine. San Diego zoo was great and i got to see seals so close at the beach. Loved the experience. Not eager to ever repeat it because it's now the 4th reich.
Cptbluebeard7
The US is full of amazing things and people, but, due to the fascists in charge, I will never suggest visiting.
LittleChickadee
I really worry for anyone traveling here for the World Cup, i even half expect the actual players getting detained at this rate
mikeatike
If theres anything that is true, its that FIFA fans will ignore any amount of facsism necessary. I wish them all the worst.
IhopeUgetwhatUvoted4
There will be incidents with players.
seldombeaton
Why would anyone still go to the Un-united States in this day & age?
hotaru251
Summer Olympics in CA during 2028 is gonna be a mess and honestly i'd say non americans shouldnt go as the risk isnt worth the time or money...just watch it online.
eronth
I'll bet there's an incident, but they're probably gonna be told to stand down for that so we can pretend to be safe.
Daliena06
More like they'll be told to stand back and stand by, knowing the people in charge..
youareagreatguybut
Nah. Bootlickers at FIFA made sure ICE will get orders to not interfere with that.
Poppypoppoppop
I am expecting anyone's who beat the US team to be locked up by... say the FBI with the help of ICE.
Sensiblyinteresting
Dam, gonna be easy to rake in a ton of cash placing bets on teams then detaining team members of a team they play against.
Osiricus
I love the sport but FIFA is beyond corrupt and they've had a lot of time to perfect it. Boycott the US World Cup.
TheobromineAddict
Only half?
Tjitso
I don't even plan on watching, to be honest. It's gonna be difficult to avoid though, living in Spain
Babibubi
Why worry? Sorry, but everyone traveling to the US currently or for the WC should know better. The news, that the US are not safe for travel are all over the news in the world. If you decide to go there, then its your own fault
alienstomper
Yeah its kinda like people trying to christianize the sentinelese and getting turned into pincushions instead. Like its kinda sad but at some point you knew what you signed up for
DonL9
I'm kinda hoping it tanks. Fuck FIFA boot lickers and their "peace prize".
joshuasplinth
Yea, I’m hoping Dump keeps fucking around with the democratic venues and it just wrecks the whole thing.
MenloPart
Bad Bunny should put on an alternate concert.
EroticZombiePants
FIFA is basically the Trump of sports' organizations, so of course they'd love Trump. The "peace prize" was basically a bribe to him to keep him from having any of the FIFA people there harassed by ICE. They wouldn't give a shit what happens to the players, coaching staff, or fans.
Also, a sizeable portion of the soccer/football fan base in America are Latinos. They aren't going to want to hang out in a large group when a bunch of ICE will be patrolling the stadiums. 1
EroticZombiePants
If you really want it to tank, you will need to get fans on board with boycotting watching the games in their native countries. That will hurt them more than merely having a bunch of empty seats.
RetrogradeLlama
250 years of the USA at least trying to be a good world citizen most of the time. Trump kills all that goodwill in less than a year.
drizztx
I think you meant to say "at least *pretending* to be a good world citizen"...
rezexelon
I mean, about 250 years of history would disagree.
martineb72
We had a good run. But I think Great Experiment will soon be over. 'Great Experiment' is what George Washington called America at it's founding.
RetrogradeLlama
When Franklin was asked what the Constitutional Convention had created, he responded "A republic; if you can keep it".
syko2k
So, kill him and get most of it back.
ImmaCatImmaSexyCat
He's been at it for 10 years.
idiotsonfire
The US has never been that. We kept people as slaves long past the time that most countries figured out it was barbaric.
idiotsonfire
I think in our 250 year history, we've only not been at war for six of those years.
mzamurman
Ummmm. How do we tell this to you.... Cuba, El Salvador, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, next Iran....
cakeycakeszilla
How many of these were the results of Republicans in offices vs Democrats. I know neither is innocent, but there is a trend...
OtterlyMagnificent
TRYING to be good. We fucked up a lot.
But then Trump came along and the government stopped any pretense of trying to be good.
LaughingMan2Gig
I know what you are trying to say but saying they fucked up implies that it was not intentional and that is far from the truth in many cases unfortunately
mzamurman
Not really trying. Not at all. The number of sustainability summits America has blocked, sanctions placed on any country developing socialism, private equity destroying foreign industries so American companies can move in introducing American Labour practices. Not remotely trying. Not one bit. But lying to yourselves that you're good...
OtterlyMagnificent
The GOVERNMENT wasn't. The people...at least half of us were trying until Trump came along and gave the racists permission to be their worst selves.
mzamurman
Black Lives Matter was a decade ago. They warned you about police brutality and you did nothing and now it's in your neighbourhood. And the 50% that didn't vote for Trump? 50% of them didn't vote all. So. Explain to me how you were "trying" to be good?
18booma
Wait, were the racists the half trying to be good? Or how does Trump's permissibility influence the 50% trying to be good? Look man, just take the L. American supremacy has destroyed our world. You've destroyed South America, continued Europe's destruction of Africa and Western Asia. And never forget that the entire country is built on the bones of indigenous people, on the backs of chattel slaves. If you were trying to be good, you failed miserably.