TomtheGrizzly
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1 year ago I made an album on how to use Latin abbreviations. I'm back with some corrections and some additions!
A better translation would be "this is", but its use would suggest a more relative-oriented translation.
Pronounce "etsetra" or if you're a Latin purist, "Et Caetera"
unaligned1
Thanks. I knew most of these, but some were totally new to me.
florismrfart
How do you say: "holy shit, a talking frog" in Latin?
TheFuckfaceWhisperer
How I remember SIC: Said In Context
thisiskissel
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad mini
cogs
When I was about six, I convinced myself through context that "sic" was an abbreviation for "spelling is correct", or as originally written.
CrimeBrulee
Worth noting that Cf. is used with a contrasting or contradictory connotation, and not a direct supporting reference.
overfedlonghairedleapinggnome
#1 in everyman terms: "I know it's wrong. Blame OP, not me."
Absoluckinfutely
I'm an English major and these come in handy.
XenomorphZZ
Thank you tiny blue frog.
norcal4130
stet="Let it stand". Used when marking up a document or figure for revision and decide to keep the original text over the marked revision.
Rastaquouere
what a dummy, e.g. is short for egxample
iamnotbasic
Sic is also great when you want to point out the author is an idiot and cite his or her bad spelling as evidence.
lud1
I for one is correct
TomtheGrizzly
God dammit
notmarvin
I'm no longer in college. Why did I just read this thing?
dweadpiewitwobbits
Because plain old English is not confusing enough.
MrMcPownage
I always remember "e.g." = example given and "i.e." = in explanation.
OfficePotato
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showmeyourbut
My favorite use of sic is when I'm writing a paper arguing for something I'll take a quote that opposes my view and has grammatical errors.
SirKillsTheJoy
idc means "I don't care" it means that I don't care, so much infact that I refuse to actually spell it out.
redgarbage
Modo fac id
StringVariable
NB means "nota bene" (note well), and encourages readers to take special note of some fact.
unclefishbits
I upvoted you because I saw your note after my note. NB is my jam
RannieRocket
I got so pissed at the people that say egg-setera. LEARN GODDAMIT
srensen
Not saying you are wrong but since all others are in latin: #1 The Latin adverb sic ("thus";in full:sic erat scriptum,"thus was it written")
schmoo38
I always think of it as "yes" because my Latin teacher taught us it meant yes. And then, in text, it's sort of sarcastic.
emberfish
I always realized it was probably Latin, but I think of it as Spelling InCorrect.
TomtheGrizzly
Hence the "means", I think putting the exact translation is less comfortable. But thanks for your input!
schmoo38
And [sic] isn't an abbreviation.
detached09
I'd always thought it meant "Spelled In Context". TIL I'm wrong, though it still helps me understand how to use it.
IllogicalPine
Yo @OP, this post is sic
TheGhostOfFutureDisappointments
I always thought sic meant "spelled incorrectly"
digglesworth
Damn you, I was going to say this.
Dudeeronomy
Spelling Is Corect
IAlwaysUpvoteHermione
Spelling is Corect (sic)
IAmNotARaeOfSunshine
With CMS, "cf" is only used to compare something you said against another source. Not for further reading that supports your point.
toadofthemint
That's what I thought. I conferred with Wikipedia it seems to agree with us. Cf OP's view.
UpUpAndDismay
This appeals strongly to my inner nerd. Gonna need the link to that first post now.
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UpUpAndDismay
Thank you! Seriously good job on this. I might suggest adding "ibid" and "nota bene" as they show up fairly commonly also.
TomtheGrizzly
Duly noted, maybe I'll make a second album if this one fares well!
MyFartsHitMyBalls
Ed Cetera, brother of the singer from Chicago.
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
Peter Others.
saganworshipper
http://imgur.com/dtVWmw6
Vykoz
Don't forgety personal favorite "Quod erat demonstrandum" that which is to be proven
TomtheGrizzly
was*
dronir
I just draw a box.
subsevid
∎
elc4ttivo
Quo errat demonstrator.
rockhammer
It's all latin to me
woodenbadger
You forgot YOLO.
YeahLinguisticsBitch
Quid dicisti stercus?
TomtheGrizzly
OIM (O Iuppiter meus) nec possum.
generalofficer
Wingardium Leviosa.
YeahLinguisticsBitch
Technically, mī is the vocative.
TomtheGrizzly
Yes indeed, I had forgotten this.
rockhammer
But I did really enjoy the post
rockhammer
I don't know what we're talking about because I didn't read the whole thing.
ashmenon
I too, put celery in my scrambled eggs.
Speldrawng
"Semper ubi sub ubi". About the only "Latin" phrase I remember from high school.
moodytravesty
e.g. -> egg-zample (example). i.e. -> in eather words (in other words)
rustybronco
I use to use e.g., I still use it, but I use to use it too.
GetInLoserWereGoingShopping
I was just typing this same comment before I saw you posted it. I'm glad you did; it makes it so much easier to remember this way!
StrayBullet
You just made 9th grade English class irrelevant. Thank you sir.
Toonight
Why is it that the worse the mnemonic is, the better it works?
TomtheGrizzly
As long as you remember it!
unclemachete
I thought e.g meant example given.
NSPike
In English - like you're explaining it in plain English.
HeyLookImNotTheOnlyCrazyOne
Does no one use: example given? I feel like it's...an example given.
moodytravesty
I remember it like I read it (for example) so "example given" is a good mnemonic, but not good English when reading a sentence with it in it
MjingaSana
I remember it thus: i.e. -> in essence. e.g. -> examples given.
mibango
I used: example given, in essence
whatevenarecats
Oh hey me too
walkernotskywalker
Fuck outta here with that logic
FlatPlutoSociety
That's my mnemonic as well. :)
moodytravesty
we all have our mnemonics, but to me "in essence" is too fancy since i.e. is often used to provide a simpler statement. guess I'm simple
ashmenon
Ohh hey I do the same ones!
beautifulbiscuits
This is how i learned it too.
whtrchr
I use "i.e, in essence"
moarDuolingo
In modern Portuguese we use "isto é" instead of "i.e.". The same meaning, though. But we don't use either e.g. or i.e.
echonite
Ive always used I.E. to mean "In Example".
CrowbarCommando
i.e. - In Explanation
icyanddicey
i.e. - it ees
ashmenon
Aaaaand now Consuela is narrating all my writing.
TheBlackShakes
eather way that helps you remember it is fine
wh33lm4n
S. I. C. - > Seen in Context
whatevenarecats
I always remember it e.g. = "example given"
moodytravesty
but that doesn't work when reading it back
whatevenarecats
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dancingForest
Difference between the two is also that when you make a list, i.e. means it is exhaustive, whereas e.g. is non-exhaustive
moodytravesty
no, that's just wrong. e.g. just means an example: "if you have an injury, e.g. a sprained wrist...". i.e. is a different explanation, 1/
moodytravesty
for example, "I have schizophrenic delusions, i.e. I see things that aren't there." neither has anything specific to do with lists. 2/2
dancingForest
It's not wrong, if you say the name of a collection, and then list the entire collection, the name and the list are the same, so id est 1/2
dancingForest
2/2 is correct, if the list is non-exhaustive you're just giving examples of what is in the collection so exampli gratia is correct.
dancingForest
e.g.: "all the member of the household, i.e. my mother, my father, and me, disagreed with moodytravesty
witsd
I really hate it when people confuse e.g. and i.e. It's nearly as bad as 'ect.' [sic].
Shpetimtari
Best way to remember (for me) is "egsample" (how most people say example) for e.g. and "in ǝther" words for i.e.
DisgruntledFerret
I dunno what you mean by that, i.g. your previous statement.
violentLuciano
I never knew there was a difference. Ppl I know use it interchangeably .... TIL
MilConDoin
Just remember: "e.g. = example given; i.e. = in explanation". Close enough to the original meaning.
MCNewYorkLives
This. I hate when people try to make an "easy remembering tool" that's more remembering (eg poison vs. Venom). But this is nice. Good job
HanktheHeliotropeShank
Sic reference.
saganworshipper
Explaining the last element and giving an example are similar enough that I am not surprised that I mix them up. I write out "for example".
Khyrberos
I used to mess them up all the time; discovering the difference & chanting it to myself while typing one or the other has helped immensely.
Khyrberos
"e.g. is like 'for example', i.e. is like 'in effect'..."
wavesofvibrations
well shit, i had no idea i was using these things wrong. thank you!
drunkdog
Samsies. How embarrassing.
V1K1NGFVNERAL
E.g.-zamples and In Essence. That's how I explained it to adults I was teaching.
CountEjacula
Sounds stupid but I remember them as "eg-sample" and "in ether (words)" (ether being misspelt 'other')
wavesofvibrations
this isn't stupid, it's a handy tool that i am commenting in hopes of remembering...now your username on the other hand :-p
whig
I do "eg-sample" too! But I do "I'll Explain" for "i.e." in my head. So funny!
Derwos
Or just remember e.g. stamds for "exempli gratia", which you can see has the word example in it. Not sure about the gratia, but good enough.
LiterallyYourMom
Et Cetera. Or if you're an 80s movie end credits song, Pete Cetera.
Kidiri
Or pronounce et cetera "exetera".
Outdoortoast
This makes me physically shudder. I always feel bad for it because really I'm a pedantic prick, but ugh.
139mod70
i mean, *technically* it's pronounced "ate kay-ter-ah"...
YoursTrulee
I do this :-( hahaha makes me wanna stop, but also makes me wanna say tomato tomahtoe
YoursTrulee
Apparently no one here know how to say the word eccentric...
srslydude
That is one of my pet peeves
SuburbanCommando
Well...people who say that, use that for a lot of words. Expecially for example.
gorgosaurusrex
Expresso. THERE IS NO "X" IN ESPRESSO. It's like adding an "l" to both - it's just wrong. People get mad when I correct them, lol.
SuburbanCommando
My sister does it. It drives me nuts.
RandomThingiesHere
Why does it matter if there's no X? This is English we're talking about
gorgosaurusrex
Well the person in question is still mispronouncing a word, and that requires correction in my opinion.
witsd
Yes. Pacifically that.
SuburbanCommando
People who say that should really loose that habit. MIRITE?!?
MissSpelledTattoo
You made a mute point
139mod70
Actually: http://blog.dictionary.com/moot-point-vs-mute-point/
Kidiri
Quiet right.
skoobahdiver
More like Quiet Riot! amiright?
TheUniverseWhataConcept
You're riot!
pixarpizza
If I have a faint lisp and struggle with 't c', can you forgive me? 'x' is easier to say.
Kidiri
Thorry, can't do that.
LadyWidebottom
I learned the pronounciation from watching Gene Wilder as a child.
PikaCheck
"Would of", "Should of", "Must of", etc. Makes me cringe every time.
wafflesnpancakes
Supposably, expresso, for all intensive purposes *cringe*
theothercoppola
"Axe a question"
Gnoll
Eh, that's just a different pronunciation of the same word. Really common in the south.
theothercoppola
Oh sorry I thought we were listing mispronunciations. I'll go give myself 50 lashes.