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SlackerTactical
Surely more people died per day than listed.
MuffinBuffer
Average daily deaths in us is 6,0000 in 2019
yingjun
Trump has to be best.
psycho3d
Meanwhile, stupid people...
nipplepanties
FYI. Not overall daily deaths, but due to a single cause.
Bytencoder
October 12, 1492 - about 8 million
Turbolibros
imnotryan
Wikipedia says Antietam was ~5,400 killed. Not even going to bother checking the rest or researching a deadlier day. Busted.
SwordOfAlabastor
Holy shit, so while this isn't complete, I looked up the figures for dday and the Normandy landings would be #6 (citation in reply)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normandy_landings (citation b)
Barelycontainable
Shit you people are getting more and more daft by the passing of each day
philinthecircle
I feel like I need to tell people how to understand the info. I’m with ya
s1mplejack
hoax
ohnonotthatagain
CDC says an about 7,700 Americans died every day in 2017. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/68/wr/mm6826a5.htm
MasterChristopher
But they tell me more people die each year from the flu! I guess they just haven't finished counting and recounting the flu deaths yet.
thundercactus
I heard there's an injunction against certifying the deaths. They're not sure WHY though.
wonkydemateo
This isn't correct though. Many many more people die daily. These are counting special deaths.
GrimFinn
Yeah it's treating Covid as an "event" but not listing other diseases. Though heart disease and cancer are only at 1,800 & 1,600 per day.
Definitely alarming that Covid-19 is already the deadliest disease by far, per daily death tolls. But still a bit odd to compare it to wars.
Yes. Agreed
e1fboi
Don't get me wrong, I wear masks myself and support others to do the same, but according to the CDC roughly 2.8 millions people died in(1/3)
The U.S. in 2018 which makes over 7,800 deaths per day on average, so I'd say this picture is kinda misleading, but that's just me, (2/3)
As I said though, definitely wear a mask, not doing so is pretty reckless IMO (3/3) sauce below:
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db355.htm#:~:text=In%202018%2C%20a%20total%20of,at%20birth%20increased%200.1%20year.
rubik289
What a pile of crap! Wikipedia has 22,717 for Antietam. Gettysburg, 51,118 over 3 days. Many more horrific Civil War days. Fuck this post!
dragonraven13
You're right. Let's ignore these numbers. This post is invalid.
VanDammesForeheadCyst
Those are total casualties, not deaths.
AuleMahal
You seem to have skimmed over that information, those totals include missing and wounded.
BearToof
Someone forgot the difference b/w fatalities and casualties! Not that the list is perfect. But Antietam # is correct.
thermodaemonics
Wikipedia's casualty numbers are "dead, wounded or missing." Dead for Antietam=3675, Gettysburg≈7863/3=2621. Should add, but message stands.
tmore
Missing the 1906 San Francisco earthquake that killed a minimum of 3000. Other than that, list checks out.
MeantoChildren
Not trying to discount the original post's seriousness AT ALL, but there is also, arguably, Okeechobee hurricane at over about 2,500.
mesogiria
If we're counting pandemics, it's definitely not - the 1918 flu pandemic killed 500 to 800 thousand, there had to be days as high or higher.
Aaaurelius
This list seems to be missing a lot, but totally agree that covid is messed up.
littleoneheath
I'm sorry, America. I genuinely mean it. ??
Bukkakeyes
I agree that this is tragic, but it is disingenuous to present these facts like this. The US averaged close to 8,000 deaths/day, pre-COV.
Sauce: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/68/wr/mm6826a5.htm
Yea, I was thinking the same thing
Wouldn’t that mean you could add roughly 8k to these numbers? That seems appropriate
Yes, you could. I'm just saying, the wording of the title of this infographic is wrong, and there is no context.
PaulTomblin
Two weeks from now, Antetium will be well down the list.
severice
I'm assuming you mean on us soil? Cause you're forgetting like a lot of events in us history, trail of tears, custer's last stand, 1
The entire rest of the civil war, (gettysburg, chikamunga, spotsylvania, chancellorsville) any of the really bad plagues like influenza
I mean hell according to the cdc about 7k people die every day.i mean you picked two random events and just hoped no one would do the math.
Linson
I'm not American but I'd have thought Gettysburg would have been on that list?
hockeyandgolfer224
Gettysburg was the bloodiest war. Over a period of time. Antitem was the bloodiest DAY. Which is what this post is saying. Single Day total.
Sanguinius4893
Wasn't Gettysburg like 4 days?
3 days. I was close: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Gettysburg
TheGhostofElizabethShue
And that’s almost certainly lower than the true cost. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm
LordAuditorVorkosigan
Externalities?! What are those!
coronakilla
We’ll be going through the data for years after this
WamWam23
195,000 Americans died in October 1918 alone, meaning each day on average is worse than any of these. The author must’ve only looked at
Battles, natural disaster but not diseases which I find weird cause that’s what the author is making a point about
Source: https://www.history.com/news/spanish-flu-second-wave-resurgence
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RackhamTheRed
The thing at #2?
Did you read the article you posted? It claims 3600 as the # dead. Not to be confused with casualties (dead, wounded or missing)
bmacattack7
Yeah theres like an average of 7500 deaths a day in the us
cobyjack
Doesn't seem accurate at all. deadliest "events" maybe. I think they are just stating COVID deaths. I get the point, but not accurate/true.
"You will be tired of winning!"
IFoundOutThatYouCanHave63CharactersOntheUsernameHowCoolIsThat
can't tell if mad man or a genius, he told us exactly what he'd do from the very beginning, and he did it.
bandanafurscale
Liiiiiiiiiiiiiiies. The fucking gullible are tearing this country apart
glenngriffon
We're Number 1! We're Number 1! We're Number 1! We're Number 1! We're Number 1! We're all gonna die! We're Number 1! We're Number 1!
theEarlOfSharts
Funniest part? The fact that that was the first wave and the current one is like 10 times bigger
nutzhutz
He's such a POS and not President of States.
GummiBurrs
Seriously, how can anyone look up to such a fucking idiot?!
ThisIsYourLifeNow
"He told us we are winning.So we must be winning.Why would he lie?! He never lies. Everyone who says he is lying is actually lying#fakenews"
ButtBot9900
And yet some delusional cultists continue to insist that masks are a violation of their rights.
SpittingFacts1337
Yep, delusionists like Dr Fauci, the CDC and the WHO who first said masks WERENT needed, and then flipped.
JustDriftingAboutTheInterWebs
LordNergal
They are a violation! Do you know how much those masks scratch your fist when you punch someone for supporting Trump? Like sandpaper!
And they violate my lefts just as much!
skittlesohenry
Underrated comment
firesnake
A delusional cultist I know correctly pointed out that 8000 deaths per day is standard in the US, so these are 'event' plus up numbers
lurksohardmotherfuckerswannafindme
Or that there isn’t actually an increase in the number of deaths it’s just being falsified for whatever reason
ReaperCDN
It is. And frankly you should respect that right and pass a law that states infecting another person is considered attempted murder one. /1
After you throw a dozen in jail for life for refusing to put a fucking mask on, the rest will shape the fuck up in a hurry. And before /2
the conservatives start screaming, "Authoritarian bullshit!" go fuck yourselves. Prosecuting and imprisoning you for willingly infecting /3
other people is no fucking different from stabbing them with a needle full of fucking anthrax. Prosecute it as such and the problem /4
will resolve tout, fucking, suite. 5/5
bleggs
DDay was 2.5k American Lives. There must have also been some worse days in the 1918 flu: 500k to 850k Americans died in two years.
Tesseract09
Given how it's portrayed in movies, and compared to he way totals, D-Day always feels surprisingly light.
rcderp
Gettysburg had 45-50,000 casualties over 3 days. Pretty sure that should be on this list. Think that’s comparing apples to oranges, though.
Findrek
Id guess DDay is left of as it wasn't "in" America. Not diminishing its significance, just pointing out why its not on list
MetalPsychologist
I’m wondering about stats from the civil war. Too lazy to Google, but it was nuts.
HighwayWizard
Civil War lasted ~1500 days and had ~655,000 deaths, so ~436 per day (inaccurate due to how war works, but that's the napkin math for it)
iMuuli
You're comparing a war to a disease most other countries have well under control. I'd say it supports the original point.
1) Antietam is listed. 2) It says "deadliest days in American history" not "deadliest days due to diseases"
My main problem is with "deadliest days". This needs to be excess deaths. 8000 Americans die per day on average.
suchawiz6178
Cataphract01
Without COVID? Wow that really shows how deadly it is. BTW do you have a link to the statistics?
abczyxttt
Agreed. I can appreciate the intent of the graphic, but it's misleading.
Only 8k? Considering the population size I'd have guessed it would be well over 10k/d
BootsMadeForWalking
It is now!
Aradur
Fuck dude.
CrustyMuffin
Dude fuck
eddbrowne
November 8, 2016
akambe
An addition: 2,501 American soldiers died on D Day.
KrondorMocker
is this.... a direction?
q2grapple
It’s One Direction, sure
Inception6598
One might even say it’s a Take.....not on me
AlphaIndustrial
This is the way
KRPING
If this is the way, I wanna go the other way.
tmas98
This is the way.
Alright, Imma retype this to try and be more clear. Give or take 8000 Americans died daily before Covid. Anyone with a calculator will...
throw that back at you that this is exaggeration. What this really shows is excess deaths, WHICH MATTERED. But this meme doesn't win any ...
Pulitzers
It's not actually accurate though. US annual mortality is ~3M/yr. That's ~8000 per day. Don't share this meme until it's corrected
coloredgreyscale
Further evidence that covid is a hoax! /S
AlexSwe
Dunno why ppl hate facts. Ppl love saying big numbers. 20 000 dies from starvation daily. Where are ppls concern about them.
W92Baj
Those 8000 are still dying. These are EXCESS deaths
I know, I understand that, but that is not what the image says. And CERTAINLY it is not 8000 per day, some are 5000, some are 12000. So to..
title it deadliest days will just incite argument. I get the point, and I agree that this is horrible. Just don't use it and look foolish.
Perkunas687
Do you think the death figures for ww2 included children who died of measles? This is somewhat sensationalised bit it is giving figures...
ifounditunderthere
First one sounds like a guess....
DarthTrevor
It was weird. Bodies were buried at sea and washed back to shore too.
magicrhombus
Wikipedia says 6000-12000
LoudAngryJerk
nope. The hurricane fucked off as soon as it met the quota
candiduscorvus
If anything it’s an underestimate.
SupernaturalReactions
AgnesMcGillicuddy
Galveston was 6k to 12k, but over weeks, not a single day. Read Isaac's Storm by Eric Larson
Also https://www.npr.org/2017/11/30/566950355/the-tempest-at-galveston-we-knew-there-was-a-storm-coming-but-we-had-no-idea
Even so it is the deadliest day in US history - at least 5k-6k people died in a 24 hour period.
MarkyMousey
Imma take your word, not about to read that, lol
FormerlySable
It’s a fascinating read, though.
tacotuesday5000
Only book I willingly chose to read from cover to cover in high school.
Good choice! Have you read The Perfect Storm? Who knew weather novels could be so riveting!
Nope, but I’ll check it out!
Sebastian Junger!
SlackerTactical
Surely more people died per day than listed.
MuffinBuffer
Average daily deaths in us is 6,0000 in 2019
yingjun
Trump has to be best.
psycho3d
Meanwhile, stupid people...
nipplepanties
FYI. Not overall daily deaths, but due to a single cause.
Bytencoder
October 12, 1492 - about 8 million
Turbolibros
imnotryan
Wikipedia says Antietam was ~5,400 killed. Not even going to bother checking the rest or researching a deadlier day. Busted.
SwordOfAlabastor
Holy shit, so while this isn't complete, I looked up the figures for dday and the Normandy landings would be #6 (citation in reply)
SwordOfAlabastor
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normandy_landings (citation b)
Barelycontainable
Shit you people are getting more and more daft by the passing of each day
philinthecircle
I feel like I need to tell people how to understand the info. I’m with ya
s1mplejack
hoax
ohnonotthatagain
CDC says an about 7,700 Americans died every day in 2017. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/68/wr/mm6826a5.htm
MasterChristopher
But they tell me more people die each year from the flu! I guess they just haven't finished counting and recounting the flu deaths yet.
thundercactus
I heard there's an injunction against certifying the deaths. They're not sure WHY though.
wonkydemateo
This isn't correct though. Many many more people die daily. These are counting special deaths.
GrimFinn
Yeah it's treating Covid as an "event" but not listing other diseases. Though heart disease and cancer are only at 1,800 & 1,600 per day.
GrimFinn
Definitely alarming that Covid-19 is already the deadliest disease by far, per daily death tolls. But still a bit odd to compare it to wars.
wonkydemateo
Yes. Agreed
e1fboi
Don't get me wrong, I wear masks myself and support others to do the same, but according to the CDC roughly 2.8 millions people died in(1/3)
e1fboi
The U.S. in 2018 which makes over 7,800 deaths per day on average, so I'd say this picture is kinda misleading, but that's just me, (2/3)
e1fboi
As I said though, definitely wear a mask, not doing so is pretty reckless IMO (3/3) sauce below:
e1fboi
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db355.htm#:~:text=In%202018%2C%20a%20total%20of,at%20birth%20increased%200.1%20year.
rubik289
What a pile of crap! Wikipedia has 22,717 for Antietam. Gettysburg, 51,118 over 3 days. Many more horrific Civil War days. Fuck this post!
dragonraven13
You're right. Let's ignore these numbers. This post is invalid.
VanDammesForeheadCyst
Those are total casualties, not deaths.
AuleMahal
You seem to have skimmed over that information, those totals include missing and wounded.
BearToof
Someone forgot the difference b/w fatalities and casualties! Not that the list is perfect. But Antietam # is correct.
thermodaemonics
Wikipedia's casualty numbers are "dead, wounded or missing." Dead for Antietam=3675, Gettysburg≈7863/3=2621. Should add, but message stands.
tmore
Missing the 1906 San Francisco earthquake that killed a minimum of 3000. Other than that, list checks out.
MeantoChildren
Not trying to discount the original post's seriousness AT ALL, but there is also, arguably, Okeechobee hurricane at over about 2,500.
mesogiria
If we're counting pandemics, it's definitely not - the 1918 flu pandemic killed 500 to 800 thousand, there had to be days as high or higher.
Aaaurelius
This list seems to be missing a lot, but totally agree that covid is messed up.
littleoneheath
I'm sorry, America. I genuinely mean it. ??
Bukkakeyes
I agree that this is tragic, but it is disingenuous to present these facts like this. The US averaged close to 8,000 deaths/day, pre-COV.
Bukkakeyes
Sauce: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/68/wr/mm6826a5.htm
e1fboi
Yea, I was thinking the same thing
philinthecircle
Wouldn’t that mean you could add roughly 8k to these numbers? That seems appropriate
Bukkakeyes
Yes, you could. I'm just saying, the wording of the title of this infographic is wrong, and there is no context.
PaulTomblin
Two weeks from now, Antetium will be well down the list.
severice
I'm assuming you mean on us soil? Cause you're forgetting like a lot of events in us history, trail of tears, custer's last stand, 1
severice
The entire rest of the civil war, (gettysburg, chikamunga, spotsylvania, chancellorsville) any of the really bad plagues like influenza
severice
I mean hell according to the cdc about 7k people die every day.i mean you picked two random events and just hoped no one would do the math.
Linson
I'm not American but I'd have thought Gettysburg would have been on that list?
hockeyandgolfer224
Gettysburg was the bloodiest war. Over a period of time. Antitem was the bloodiest DAY. Which is what this post is saying. Single Day total.
Sanguinius4893
Wasn't Gettysburg like 4 days?
Sanguinius4893
3 days. I was close: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Gettysburg
TheGhostofElizabethShue
And that’s almost certainly lower than the true cost. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm
LordAuditorVorkosigan
Externalities?! What are those!
coronakilla
We’ll be going through the data for years after this
WamWam23
195,000 Americans died in October 1918 alone, meaning each day on average is worse than any of these. The author must’ve only looked at
WamWam23
Battles, natural disaster but not diseases which I find weird cause that’s what the author is making a point about
WamWam23
Source: https://www.history.com/news/spanish-flu-second-wave-resurgence
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RackhamTheRed
The thing at #2?
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BearToof
Did you read the article you posted? It claims 3600 as the # dead. Not to be confused with casualties (dead, wounded or missing)
bmacattack7
Yeah theres like an average of 7500 deaths a day in the us
cobyjack
Doesn't seem accurate at all. deadliest "events" maybe. I think they are just stating COVID deaths. I get the point, but not accurate/true.
Turbolibros
"You will be tired of winning!"
IFoundOutThatYouCanHave63CharactersOntheUsernameHowCoolIsThat
can't tell if mad man or a genius, he told us exactly what he'd do from the very beginning, and he did it.
bandanafurscale
Liiiiiiiiiiiiiiies. The fucking gullible are tearing this country apart
glenngriffon
We're Number 1! We're Number 1! We're Number 1! We're Number 1! We're Number 1! We're all gonna die! We're Number 1! We're Number 1!
theEarlOfSharts
Funniest part? The fact that that was the first wave and the current one is like 10 times bigger
nutzhutz
He's such a POS and not President of States.
GummiBurrs
Seriously, how can anyone look up to such a fucking idiot?!
ThisIsYourLifeNow
"He told us we are winning.So we must be winning.Why would he lie?! He never lies. Everyone who says he is lying is actually lying#fakenews"
Turbolibros
ButtBot9900
And yet some delusional cultists continue to insist that masks are a violation of their rights.
SpittingFacts1337
Yep, delusionists like Dr Fauci, the CDC and the WHO who first said masks WERENT needed, and then flipped.
JustDriftingAboutTheInterWebs
LordNergal
They are a violation! Do you know how much those masks scratch your fist when you punch someone for supporting Trump? Like sandpaper!
LordNergal
And they violate my lefts just as much!
skittlesohenry
Underrated comment
firesnake
A delusional cultist I know correctly pointed out that 8000 deaths per day is standard in the US, so these are 'event' plus up numbers
lurksohardmotherfuckerswannafindme
Or that there isn’t actually an increase in the number of deaths it’s just being falsified for whatever reason
ReaperCDN
It is. And frankly you should respect that right and pass a law that states infecting another person is considered attempted murder one. /1
ReaperCDN
After you throw a dozen in jail for life for refusing to put a fucking mask on, the rest will shape the fuck up in a hurry. And before /2
ReaperCDN
the conservatives start screaming, "Authoritarian bullshit!" go fuck yourselves. Prosecuting and imprisoning you for willingly infecting /3
ReaperCDN
other people is no fucking different from stabbing them with a needle full of fucking anthrax. Prosecute it as such and the problem /4
ReaperCDN
will resolve tout, fucking, suite. 5/5
bleggs
DDay was 2.5k American Lives. There must have also been some worse days in the 1918 flu: 500k to 850k Americans died in two years.
Tesseract09
Given how it's portrayed in movies, and compared to he way totals, D-Day always feels surprisingly light.
rcderp
Gettysburg had 45-50,000 casualties over 3 days. Pretty sure that should be on this list. Think that’s comparing apples to oranges, though.
Findrek
Id guess DDay is left of as it wasn't "in" America. Not diminishing its significance, just pointing out why its not on list
MetalPsychologist
I’m wondering about stats from the civil war. Too lazy to Google, but it was nuts.
HighwayWizard
Civil War lasted ~1500 days and had ~655,000 deaths, so ~436 per day (inaccurate due to how war works, but that's the napkin math for it)
iMuuli
You're comparing a war to a disease most other countries have well under control. I'd say it supports the original point.
bleggs
1) Antietam is listed. 2) It says "deadliest days in American history" not "deadliest days due to diseases"
firesnake
My main problem is with "deadliest days". This needs to be excess deaths. 8000 Americans die per day on average.
suchawiz6178
Cataphract01
Without COVID? Wow that really shows how deadly it is. BTW do you have a link to the statistics?
abczyxttt
Agreed. I can appreciate the intent of the graphic, but it's misleading.
RackhamTheRed
Only 8k? Considering the population size I'd have guessed it would be well over 10k/d
BootsMadeForWalking
It is now!
Aradur
Fuck dude.
CrustyMuffin
Dude fuck
eddbrowne
November 8, 2016
akambe
An addition: 2,501 American soldiers died on D Day.
KrondorMocker
is this.... a direction?
q2grapple
It’s One Direction, sure
Inception6598
One might even say it’s a Take.....not on me
AlphaIndustrial
This is the way
KRPING
If this is the way, I wanna go the other way.
tmas98
This is the way.
firesnake
Alright, Imma retype this to try and be more clear. Give or take 8000 Americans died daily before Covid. Anyone with a calculator will...
firesnake
throw that back at you that this is exaggeration. What this really shows is excess deaths, WHICH MATTERED. But this meme doesn't win any ...
firesnake
Pulitzers
firesnake
It's not actually accurate though. US annual mortality is ~3M/yr. That's ~8000 per day. Don't share this meme until it's corrected
coloredgreyscale
Further evidence that covid is a hoax! /S
AlexSwe
Dunno why ppl hate facts. Ppl love saying big numbers. 20 000 dies from starvation daily. Where are ppls concern about them.
W92Baj
Those 8000 are still dying. These are EXCESS deaths
firesnake
I know, I understand that, but that is not what the image says. And CERTAINLY it is not 8000 per day, some are 5000, some are 12000. So to..
firesnake
title it deadliest days will just incite argument. I get the point, and I agree that this is horrible. Just don't use it and look foolish.
Perkunas687
W92Baj
Do you think the death figures for ww2 included children who died of measles? This is somewhat sensationalised bit it is giving figures...
ifounditunderthere
First one sounds like a guess....
DarthTrevor
It was weird. Bodies were buried at sea and washed back to shore too.
magicrhombus
Wikipedia says 6000-12000
LoudAngryJerk
nope. The hurricane fucked off as soon as it met the quota
candiduscorvus
If anything it’s an underestimate.
SupernaturalReactions
ifounditunderthere
SupernaturalReactions
AgnesMcGillicuddy
Galveston was 6k to 12k, but over weeks, not a single day. Read Isaac's Storm by Eric Larson
AgnesMcGillicuddy
Also https://www.npr.org/2017/11/30/566950355/the-tempest-at-galveston-we-knew-there-was-a-storm-coming-but-we-had-no-idea
AgnesMcGillicuddy
Even so it is the deadliest day in US history - at least 5k-6k people died in a 24 hour period.
MarkyMousey
Imma take your word, not about to read that, lol
FormerlySable
It’s a fascinating read, though.
tacotuesday5000
Only book I willingly chose to read from cover to cover in high school.
AgnesMcGillicuddy
Good choice! Have you read The Perfect Storm? Who knew weather novels could be so riveting!
tacotuesday5000
Nope, but I’ll check it out!
AgnesMcGillicuddy
Sebastian Junger!