Statues are for historical figures that should be admired, not traitors and terrorists.

Jun 19, 2020 3:27 PM

jderig

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Hail satan

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They did make statues of satan, and they were sexy as fuck

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Look.. I tried to recruit the guy.. He went into publishing..

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But........Satan is not a historical figure. He is alive now and seeks to turn all away from God.

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We do have statues of satan though.

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Every traitor and terrorist is somebody else's hero.

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The Church of Satan seems to have a lot of good people in it, from what I've read. Oddly more Christian than many Christians lol

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The church of Satan actually has some damn good rules to live by

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I like the idea I heard where we take them and put them in a museum.. and explain why they had statues and why they were put in a museum and

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how we grew as a society.

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Satan killed 1 person in the bible..god on the other hand slaughtered..i'll stick with satan

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Who did Satan actually kill other than Job's family at God's approval?

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The old testament God is best compared to a pre-pubescent psychopath with an ant farm, while Satan almost seem saintly. 2 million against 10

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To my understanding a lot of the Confederate statues were put up to terrify the newly freed slaves.

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The majority of them were put up in the 20th century.

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A large portion of them went up during the Jim Crow Laws era.

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There's one of those in Madrid in a park. Placed at exactly 666 m above sea level, too.

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Fountain of the Fallen Angel. Wicked cool.

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Yep! That one.

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Then again who thought that when the 2nd coming of Christ occurs, he’s going to want to see a bunch of crosses

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He's definitely gonna look cross eyed at the Italians.

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They pulled down a statue of Jefferson and Washington in my city this week

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Funny how no one has replied to your comment yet. (apart from me)

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It's kind of ironic because Satan isn't the one that condones slavery in the Bible

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It needs to be clarified, not everything in the Bible is spiritual proclamation. The Bible is also a history book, a census, geography and

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Is it though?

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Geneaology book. It tells of how things were, not necessarily how things should be. Not every scripture at least

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Fair enough but there's nothing wrong with putting all that stuff in a museum where we can be reminded all the same

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“That which will not bend, must break, and that which can be destroyed by truth should never be spared its demise. It is done, hail Satan,”

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Isn't "traitor and terrorist" subjected to who won in history

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Yes

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Then they should have fought harder.

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History is written by the victor, after all.

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There ARE statues of lucifer, though. Context matters. Dont depict him as the goid guy, simple

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Was about to mention that

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Damn ima start lobbying for more satan statues

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Why dont they just move everything to a civil war museum.

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That's what I, and many other southerners, think should be done. The majority of them, though, were made cheaply, and are of no historic

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Value. They aren't in the person's hometown or where a battle was fought, and are nothing but "glory" symbols. Unfortunately, the dumbasses

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Are the loudest and will make the best news, so that's what's being told the most. The MS state flag and many statues are being removed from

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Several cities and universities across our state, and I'm sure more will follow.

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Because there’s literally around 1500 of them, they’re cheap mass produced statues, and many are the same.

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NO this is a terrible analogy. Comparing contemporaneously respected yet flawed humans to SATAN?? Are we being serious or just trolling?

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“Metaphor”. “Analogy”.

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Yeah, the satan statues are way sexier.

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Was Lucifer not contemporaneously respected yet flawed? He did lead a rebellion. People today even seem to think he had a point.

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Virtually everyone opposed to the statues coming down believes in the Lost Cause narrative that the Confederacy was morally upstanding.

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Horseshit!

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Which, of course, makes them fucking idiots.

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It makes them evil scumbags, not just idiots.

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Does anyone know where I can read about what the common soldiers of both sides were thinking, what did they think they fought for? 1/x

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end 2/2

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I don't think the average statue in question is dedicated to the common soldier.

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Are they tearing them down or voting to remove them? Big difference between the two methods.

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Is there, really? One side are heavily suppressed minorities who are unheard at the voting booth, the other are white people in power.

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If you tear them down, it's seen as an attack on the culture of the majority who will then double down.

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...and? Is this a situation that can continue without an actual confrontation at a certain point?

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It should all be done politically.

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Since the Lord approves of slavery it is morally acceptable to own slaves - southern Christians

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Not American, I disagree with statues being destroyed as they have artistic value. Put them in place that have info on what they did wrong

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Agreed the one that was made by a true artist must stay:

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This is one of the best statues I've ever seen. Right up there with the Ronaldo one.

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How about we ship every last one of them to a field in Alabama & let the local KKK chapter set up a racist statue petting zoo? I don’t /1

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really mind keeping the statues around, but I have a problem with displaying them in public!squares, by government buildings, parks etc. /2

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Aye and as I said, place them in an area for people to visit. Somewhere that displays them along side the disgusting history.

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but allow the artistic work to be around. We don't commision stone carved statues for example as much anymore. They need to be preserved so

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that later generations can observe them and learn from the way it was formed.

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I find it hard to believe that there are so few statues in the world that we need to preserve these few Confederate monuments. Not buying it

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Art is important. When I look at a statue I rarely actually look up who it is or the history. However I do look at the artist skill. We

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@Drunkenvalley has the right of it. And also, they were in HIGHLY public places as well. Parks, roadways, even some schools.

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I agree they should be in a museum with information about the subject, good and bad. But I don't blame them for destroying them.

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Museum and art galleries aren't sprinting to fetch them. Most already have a surplus of this shit, and it doesn't say much on its own.

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Most of them don't have artistic value - they're literally cheap and mass-produced.

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...and neither museums nor galleries want them.

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Probably because they are worried that people will come in and try to destroy it...

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No, probably because the statues are virtually worthless, mass-produced junk.

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No. Tear down that racist propaganda.

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Ballocks, it is not racist propaganda if you provide information to the public about what they did. The brutality of their history. That is

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informative and helps humans evolve, not to repeat history again.

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We don't need statues being neutral or positive towards evils to do that. Tear them down. Replace them with something accurate.

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Those statues weren't put up for the sake of "art":

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Christ, I did not say they were put up for art. I said THEY HAVE ARTISTIC VALUE. Ignore who they are of, actually look at the art. They

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commissioned an artist to make something quite remarkable. As a non american I do not give a crap about the person they are of. It is the

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artist value they have which should not be destroyed. You don't just erase your past.

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So when do we get to visit the Hall of Hitler? Yes, what they are of is of course vitally important. Even beyond that, the vast majority

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are mass produced, with no intrinsic value, and were put up solely to propagandize white supremacy. A couple dozen of the 1000+ can go to

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I think you underestimate how many Americans currently revere the meaning behind the statues. I understand your stance about art as a higher

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idea, but it isn't relevant to the current context. There are human feelings towards these statues; art and the material world can't be

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exclusive from each other. It isn't just a small radical cult of Americans. It is a vast population of people that believe in a rogue state,

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slavery, and are literally against equal rights for anyone else. Again, I understand your stance on artistic value. But these people are

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hail satan

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Nema.

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Well done! Hail Mr. Satan!

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Hail Santa

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?

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Hail Satan rain Satan, 70% chance of precipisatan

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the best ever death metal band out of Denton / will in time both outpace and outlive you

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This is not Satan it is Lucifer.

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My name is finally relevant

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HAIL GEIN!

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Megustalations!!!!!

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Hail yourself!

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Megustalations

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Megustalations!

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I approve.

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Hail cthulu

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I don’t want to jinx is but I love that hail Cthulhu is the one with no downvotes! Something we can all agree on

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Ia ia Cthulhu*! Ia ia Nyarlathotep!

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Satan punishes bad people and listens to metal so is he truly a bad guy?

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Why do you think we worship him

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Satan accepts all of God's unwanted children.

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Milton - “Paradise Lost”

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I always figured he got the shit job because he sassed Daddy

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pretty much it

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He also killed way less innocent people than God.

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Multiple Bible sources (Jesus, Peter, etc.) say he tries to get people into Hell, so that’s a red flag.

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I love to study the bible and the God who wrote it, which is why I do so much research. Hebrew sheohl and Greek haides and gehenna. have fun

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Correct! Learned that during my 3 Greek and 2 Hebrew classes getting my M. Div. before I was ordained. Grace and peace.

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That's so metal, dude

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He doesn't punish sinners though, Lucifer is the original prisoner of hell, while Satan is an Angel designed to bring people to sin.

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Lucifer is the Lightbringer. A fallen angel, whose task is to rule the realm of Hell.

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Satan’s name means accuser. He is literally that asshole prosecutor who imprisons poor minorities on technicalities

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Have you seen Jesus' hair? If he doesn't listen to metal I'd be shocked. Plus the whole hanging out with the outcasts, and whipping the fake

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Judging purely by the hair, I'd say it's more grunge or stoner.

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Stoner would explain the making water into wine and the multipling of the snacks. Grunge is a dead genre so that works.

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Let's just say he likes rock?

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I can get behind that sentiment

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Satan's not the warden, he's another prisoner

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Prisoner warden/ruler

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He's like... the head of the most dangerous gang in the prison

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Even the best criminal will rot with the lowest criminal, though the best criminals are probably free right now

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The Germans put up some memorials for Nazis; not to glorify them, but to remember that German citizens died for terrible causes.

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It is not wrong to remember dead soldiers. It is wrong to glorify what they died fighting for if it was bullshit. I feel that way about 1/2

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Nazis, the Confederates, but also Vietnam. I've never seen people try to use the VN War Memorial to glorify that stupid war

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They lost their family. So a mourning of that

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That’s totally different. There are laws against using Nazi salutes and racist language against Jews. In the US people just feel emboldened.

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How many southern monuments devoted to slaves, family seperation, etc are there

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I hope the US doesn't have to go through what Germany did to become a better society.

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We got monuments for soldiers. Not generals. And usually include WW1.

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Germany doesn't have "Nazi" statues or memorials. The National Socialism memorial is for the victims, not the army.

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Most important: those memorials are about the victims, not the perpetrators.

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No, we put up memorials for the victims. And for the soldiers the stones say "in rememberence of the dead, to warn the living"

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Unfortunately it doesn’t say the second part on every memorial. I wish it would though.

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It's sad that we've got so used to such complete, barefaced, counterfactual LIES as this, from the kinda people that defend the statues.

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We have memorials to remember those who had to suffer. You won't see a Nazi statue in Germany in a public place.

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Large memorial sites are important as long as the context is clear.

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I would also venture to guess that if people someday objected to the statues, the Germans would take them down without a fuss.

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They're now talking about tearing down statues of German slave owners and other colonialist criminals

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It’s not that simple. There have been fights for years now to remove some of the memorial statues for the fallen soldiers of ww1 and 2

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and they are still standing. Also we have a lot of things (Staues, street names, etc) of people from colonial times. Not a lot of people

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see the racism in these. Fortunately there’s more talk about it now than ever.

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Yeah, they need to keep these statues up and villify these symbols! Let the bad ones show themselves and we can all learn from it.

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Location location location

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That is one thing. But that is absolutely not what the statues standing in the US signify. They are indeed idolized despite their history.

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Wait, that's satire, right? I can't tell cause I'm German

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Have you heard this one? How many Germans does it take to change a light bulb?

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Go ahead

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One. Because Germans are very efficient and don't have a sense of humor.

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Being half German and half Mexican myself you get half a JaJa from me. Jaja is Mexican equivalent of haha pronounced the same.

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in fact there are two terms in german: one's a memorial to think of sth positive (Denkmal), the other's to warn of sth negative (Mahnmal)

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They have "stumble stones" - history written on random blocks in the road so you will remember but nothing to glorify it.

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Not in random places. Only where people lived that were killed by nazis.

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The Stolpersteine have the names of those that were deported and murdered on them and they are placed in front of the respective houses.

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Stauffenberg and his co-conspirators never joined the NSDAP. I was surprised to learn that too because I thought all high-ranking military …

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The conspiracy wasn't even noble. They wanted to *replace* Hitler, not just get rid of him.

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officers had been Nazi party members. I don't think there is a single statue or memorial for an NSDAP member.

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Hitler's bunker is a carpark with a small information board.

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"On this site, in 1945, some dickhead died. Good riddance."

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The guy who killed him deserves a medal

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Memorials ≠ Statues of leaders at government centers and public parks. If statues of Joseph Goebbels and Hitler were erected at parliament 1

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Yeah, my point was there's a good way to erect memorials to bad things to remind us our history wasn't always so pristine.

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So you agree with the key argument here then? Man, say so sooner.

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No he is offering a counterpoint to this specific argument. Monuments are erected to remember events in history, for better or worse.

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Not all monuments are created equal. Monument to or explaining a conflict ok, statues of confederate generals in places of honour are not.

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You're not a cop. I do what I want!

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I think the German's would have a lot more to say than just tearing down the statues themselves.

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They turned the place where they held the rallies at Nuremburg into a lorry park. I say that's the best thing to do, take something 1/2

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Lorry park... Found the brit!

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You got me!

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2/ you don't need anymore and make into something you do. And a subtle fuck you is good too.

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No statues glorifying monsters. They put up plaques with names.

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Every random Confederate was a monster?

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You know what, pretty much. Sucks for them, but sometimes you get lost to history when you choose the slave side. Most of us random >

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< Americans will be lost to history for being complicit in this fucktastrophe of a few years. We fucking deserve it too.

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Not calling them saints, that's for sure.

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Certainly. Would a statue at a battlefield where lots were killed count as lionizing or just a memorial?

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Most of the ones with statues absolutely.

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Not every random confederate has a statue up of them in conspicuous public spaces, explicitly glorifying them and the pro slavery cause +

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+ which they fought for. When you put a statue up to "the glorious confederate cause", you can't disentangle the slavery and just claim to +

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+ be honouring their admirable traits. That's not how any of this works.

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That is so not what he said and you damn well know it too.

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Every random Confederate that has a statue. Either way.

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Confederates with a statue are not "every random Confederate"

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True but confederate generals or soldiers or whoever weren't all monsters either. I know lee didnt want a war, but felt compelled to follow>

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His home state. Simplistic views make simplistic people.or at least come from them

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Yeah, nobody (well maybe a tiny handful of idiots) is trying to take down the Lincoln memorial. Only the confederacy-glorifying ones

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How about these statues, https://www.history.com/news/how-many-u-s-presidents-owned-slaves

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May as well make a list in 50 years of presidents that owned cars and tear down that obama library.

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This is the dumbest shit to argue over.

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Depends on what else they did. IMO Washington and Jefferson are fine, but Andrew Jackson statues can fuck off

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Maybe we should just fuck off with statues. What the fuck are historical statues accomplishing? Christians should be all fucking about

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Getting rid of every last one of them. I'm fine with it too. Pining for a fantasy that never existed keeps you from moving forward.

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A statue of george washington just got torn down in washington St. So, there you go

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Eh, oh well. He'd probably be OK with that if you read anything he ever wrote. Maybe we should just get back to statues as art.

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That’d be the aforementioned idiots. And I’d be very surprised if it weren’t quickly replaced.

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I don't mind. The founding fathers created a system where only land owning whites had power and slaves were 3/5ths of a person.

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The reverence that American's have for the founding fathers is borderline a fetish. They aren't good people by modern standards.

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No one is good by modern standards, that is the whole point. Presentism. Forget all of history because they were all bad then

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You can say that we shouldn't judge historical people by modern standards, and that's fair, but the good doesn't wash out the bad.

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That's the problem I have with the knee jerk mob mentality that's going on at the moment. Discuss it, come to a conclusion, act. Right /1

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now everyone has their own definition of where the line is drawn & a lot of uninformed idiots do dumb shit. I am all for progress, but /2

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the way its being done right now is stupid& dilutes the message that was so carefully curated against police brutality. Stay focused ffs 3/3

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Take that, St. Paul's Cathedral.

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That's not Satan that Lucifer.

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The Church keeps saying that Satan makes you gay and now I see why. He's hot.

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That's not Satan that is Lucifer

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Satan is hot at hell. Come corrupt me oh dark lord

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Handsome cuss.

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You leave sexy satan out of this!

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Lucifer

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Jesus clip your toenails satan.

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Found the foot fetishist.

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Satan kinda hot tho

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That's not Satan

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I mean, he lives in fire and brimstone, so...

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Which is funny, because it replaced another statue of Satan by the artist's brother that was removed for being too sexy.

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And the replacement makes him even more sultry.

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You should see the third try where he's literally pumping away all thick and veiny. They used it as a soap dispenser for the nuns bathroom.

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And he got a couple Hitachi massagers for the ladies

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stupid sexy lucifer xD https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_g%C3%A9nie_du_mal

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I've read Lucifer was an Idiot sun God and Satan was related to chronos or saturnis. Gods of time. Time as an adversary.

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*Italian

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TIL Time is Italian.

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Ha! Genie of Evil! Stupid sexy Jafar!

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A great piece of art. It would be a shame if anyone would tear it down.

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I'd take that however he's serving it.

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Why is he in chains? Wait, is Robert E. Lee in chains? No? Ok

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I don’t think the word “Satan” is in the Bible. Lucifer was the fallen angel. The word “accuser” does appear several times.

5 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

Shaitan does not show up as a term until around the crusades

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I get what you're saying, but it doesn't seem incompatible with the point in the OP. After all, they DID protest his portrayal...

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Also OP said a bunch of statues. 1 example doesn’t disprove his point. If there were only 1 Confederate statue folks wouldn’t be this upset.

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It's fairly common practice, honestly. Renaissance style sculptures, abstracts, and some weirder depictions... it's just not sure much in /

5 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Done much in the states*. I think these states should be put in museums if they are taken down... preserve /

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Everything, not just the pleasant bits or what you happen to agree with.

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

And they made a new one that was just as hot.

5 years ago | Likes 20 Dislikes 2

...which they also protested, but then they were kinda stuck with them lol.

5 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

That is the new one. It replaced the sculptor's younger brother's "too hot for church" version:

5 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

Oh okay, curls are too sexy for church but the niche pointed toenail fetish isn't.

5 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Yes, but this hottie is in chain, so what you are celebrating here it's him being spanked, not worshipped.

5 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 1

Surely being spanked is worthy of a celebration, no?

5 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

wait... It didn't come out right

5 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

You knew what you were doing

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This... is an perfect way to describe the idea behind tearing down those Confederate statues. Very well put and not condescending. Ok. Nice!

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Completely entitled to your opinion, friend! Glad you could join the conversation!

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

People can love WW2 but if the person decorates their house with Nazi history mementos people would worry.

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I'm ok with replacing confederate statues with Satan

5 years ago | Likes 22 Dislikes 3

Now hold up, I firmly believe in the Church of Satanism. But I do agree with you.

5 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 5

But will it change the minds of people who are sad about losing Confederate statues? My guess is no

5 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 4

I was going to upvote this but the upvote count was 666 and it just felt appropriate to leave it.

5 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 6

I mean Satan killed what 7 people in the bibles books and God has killed... countless. I think the wrong guy won and wrote the history. Js

5 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 4

Great example.

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Satan is barely mentioned in the Christian bible

5 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 5

And the Confederacy barely existed in American history.

5 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 2

What sucks is the argument for them *is* that they’re “great” men, since the south was just protecting their “way of life” (owning slaves)

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

Agreed.

5 years ago | Likes 72 Dislikes 3

Tearing down Confederate statues and vandalizing them is not a great idea. After all they lost the war!

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

I am so sorry but I’m gonna be an arse. It’s just an “a” before perfect. No vowel, or vowel sounding consonant comes after.

5 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 3

These ladies (and I) approve of your comment!

5 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

How is it being an arse to point out a typo?

5 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 3

Username

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

Not following, bud!

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 3

Oh, Don’t be an arse! *insert 90’s laugh track*

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

You know what, he even warned everyone. I think he gets a pass

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

But he isnt being an arse.... why does he get a pass if he isnt being an arse?

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

Username checks out!

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

Thanks! I try not to be! Glad you can validate that! Thanks, golden!!

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5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Some people don't like when someone is a "grammer nazi". Usually when they call themselves out on it they soften the blow.

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Ah... people react differently to different things. Some people have a stick up their arse. Some just go with the flow. No worries hear!!

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 3

The er is a trap. Just a heads up.

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Just give em all to one racist for his "villains" themed statue garden... "Preserve HiSTorY" and people don't have to look at them...

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 6

"bro you're gonna shit, I got this bronze moussellini from 1899"

5 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Mao would you look at that a bronze moussellini

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

"An perfect"

5 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 1

that is a appropriate reaction comment.

5 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

5 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Nobody said it was an perfect comment.

5 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

5 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 2

Condescension is ok in some instances.

5 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 12

*leans towards the person reading this* Condescension means talking down to people. *pats them on their head*

5 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

Sometimes deserved, rarely useful.

5 years ago | Likes 20 Dislikes 2

I hear the sentiment but, at least in Europe, there are depictions of Satan in a LOT of churches... Funny story about statues, as well (1/)

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Came here to say older churches feature all kinds of demons and stuff in their masonry. The lack of them is from more modern repressive 1/2

5 years ago | Likes 25 Dislikes 1

religious practices. D: 2/2

5 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 1

Isn't that from the gargoyle thing, a superstition to drive away evil spirits or something? 1/2

5 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Wouldn't be the first pagan practice the Church conscripted, nor the last.

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

It's a mix. Sometimes it was for that, sometimes to remind people evil exists, other times to reflect the past worship of the community. D:

5 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

There are 2 very famous statues of Satan in Belgium;that one's in the Liège cathedral & was a 2nd commission

5 years ago | Likes 79 Dislikes 1

Stipd sexy satan

5 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Because the 1st one was deemed "too sexy & distracting" to be in a church.

5 years ago | Likes 64 Dislikes 0

I'd do him

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Stupid sexy Satan

5 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 0

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Weren't they made by brothers, as well?

5 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Yup, the Geefs brothers. Luckily for the church there wasn't a 3rd sculptor in the family, or he would've made an even sexier statue

5 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I mean he is supposed to be tempting, no?

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I've never seen a confederate statue, are they depicting them bare-assed as well, or.?

5 years ago | Likes 48 Dislikes 0

Best part about those 2 statues is that the bro of the sculpture made the second one and personally made it sexier.

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

No, they generally feature confederate generals in an idealized, majestic pose, as if something to be revered.

5 years ago | Likes 35 Dislikes 1

Nudity was more favored in sculpture back then than it is today, look at David for example, he's naked. D:

5 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Double cheeked up on a friday afternoon

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