MoonbuttTheGreat
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Semi was apparently tailgating the car ahead of him, car stopped, semi didn't stop fast enough, people died.
Not following the three second rule has consequences
Recently, after a discussion with a mentally deficient Imgurian who believes that ONE CAR LENGTH is enough following distance between cars going AT HIGHWAY SPEEDS to facilitate a safe emergency stop, I figured I'd make this post to provide some info and encourage people to not drive like idiots.
At 60mph, it takes roughly 150 feet (half a football field) OR MORE to come to a complete stop. It takes around a second for a driver to register that the car in front of them has hit the brakes, and to hit the brakes themselves, and a total of 4 seconds plus to come to a stop.
The one car length is about 15 feet. With some math, 60mph is about 88 feet per second. You will travel 15 feet in 0.17 seconds. Recall that it takes one second for a person to register that the car ahead of them is stopping and to hit the brakes.
By the time you have even realized the person is stopping, you've already rammed into the back of them, possibly seriously injuring or killing those people, as well as yourself.
Don't be dumb, drive safe, take into account what you're driving, weather, speed, and reaction time when determining a safe following distance between you and the car ahead of you. And wear your seatbelt.
infamousxiii
Such is the fate of those who don't use their turn signal and can't stay in a lane.
allibaster12
And use your fucking blinker!
wanderingsibyl
FUCKING THANK YOU! I try to tell my friend this all the time. He continues to drive like a reckless maniac and tailgate so I don't ride w/
wanderingsibyl
him anymore. 2/2
MoonbuttTheGreat
Sometimes the life you save may be your own lol
oceanusregem
Also don't cut across 4 lanes of traffic
tracereading
I mean it's not like you can't hit an interchange or find another way to get where you're going.
oceanusregem
Exactly! It's not worth the risk
Mercenarity
Three-second rule is adjustable. Sans-jam, I add another for conditions, an extra for nighttime/visibility, and a spare for driving trucks.
Mercenarity
Obviously you won't always be in a position to maintain time-distance, but no reason not to if you can.
ackbob
A school bus decided to eat my ass on the freeway today. It was anxiety inducing
fluhatinrapper
Was it a "magic school bus"?
SuddenRandomFinnishGuy
Pics?
samsonguy920
Sadly, these days I have yet to see a smart school bus driver. Too many feel they have priority, and drive reckless even with people onboard
ThatsMySecretCapImAlwaysHorny
I've always wanted to make an "airbag test in x seconds" electronic countdown sign for the rear window.
jridley
Get the bus number, call the bus garage, report the driver.
MoonbuttTheGreat
Really? I feel like a large portion of imgurians would enjoy their asses being eaten...
Opportunist
Well, not on the freeway. Violently. At speed. o_O
Crazytrain77
*raises hand*
Candyman216
Only one?
sangatster
Looks up. "Did somebody say ass?"
DaDisser
*Eye brow thing*
blackmagic12345
Brake taps usually fix that type of person right up (if you dont mind the possibility of seriously hurting someone else.)
BoltActionGearbox
find the spot in the pedal's travel where the lights come on but the brakes haven't quite engaged yet. Usually much wider on older cars.
pcloppenbursch
just slow down very gently and speed up very gently, repeat. no brake light involved. more safe and more annoying.
painstream
I usually just flash my hazard lights for one tick. Same result as rear lights without the slowing.
quietman928
I can only SMH when I hear what percentage of drivers believe that they're a much better/safer driver than average. The last report I 1/?
quietman928
read found that 93% of American drivers believed themselves to be better than most other drivers. Kinda scary!
phil1d
So true! I'm a much better driver than most people!
JeffGodofBiscuits
http://imgur.com/C7bfy0J
MrFnortner
He's right IF and ONLY if the car in front of you instantly becomes a concrete abutment. Not watching what's going on well in front of you..
MrFnortner
and defensively anticipating traffic is what will kill you at highway speeds regardless of gap.
polymetricr
Fixed
polymetricr
(On mobile)
DonnaNobleInTheLibrary
What exactly did you fix by posting the exact same image a second time?
colinstu
Fixes it on mobile. Overlay instead of a new tab opening.
WellIMightWantAFreeSample
Now one can see the image without clicking a link.
DonnaNobleInTheLibrary
The app makes a difference there? For Desktop, it's the same thing, both open in an overlay.
WellIMightWantAFreeSample
Then I guess so, I was on app, and the parent comment was just a link.
ALargeAgglomerationOfAtomsSuperficiallyResemblingAUser
I think so, notice the second link has the .jpg on the end. I'm on pc, so I don't know for sure.
BigFishBart
No one died. The woman noticed the exit too late and made a stupid manouvre. Unfortunately she did not see the line of trucks&cars waiting.
WillyWankah
Believe she broke some bones but she lived, happened not too far from where I live.
ffilm
Exits are marked in advance; she came from the far left lane. She couldn't see trucks because she's fucking stupid.
stonecoldpuma
Are you sure? It looks like the truck runs over the car like a speed bump...
burnseybuzz
That's I was wondering. I assumed the person died. It looks awful.
KevinMenzel
Humans are - collectively - terrible drivers. We should probably let the robots take that over because they will absolutely do a better job.
Darwinmc
Can someone please reply with the "The More You Know" logo. I can't do it from the shitty mobile app.
TheAngryBang
U must have an iphone
foxracing254
LittlestBwudda
+1 for Supernatural
RickyCrisp
mikeatike
The more you try...
DinkBott
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pele5vptVgc
IDontKnowIfYouKnowThatIKnowThatYouDontKnowThatIDontCare
brifriend421
Username is also sorta relevant! Nice.
Darwinmc
My man!
yourmomloveme
oneofthosemeddlingkids
Favourite the image. Next time you want to reply from mobile, tap the heart and look it up.
YharnamsFinest
oneofthosemeddlingkids
desl14
Well ... i avoid driving between two trucks when i notice a traffic jam ... because of this: http://imgur.com/N8LwUhq
twfeline
Squeezing the blood out of those cars.
Isthisatest
Well that's horrifying
mellowdrama
Don't tailgate. Don't be a dumbass.
Dumbstatz
Top pic scares me cuz last month this same thing happened to me but luckily my exit was next,truck was 1ft from bumper during rush hour
glassweaver
I had an RN complain to the CIO that her computer didn't update. She had shut it off for the weekend. I've given up on "Don't be a dumbass"
Chrishopkinsvball
My first thought on this is that it was completely the cars fault, semis very rarely cause th accident
rmiGod
I keep 100m distance at that speed, but yes... I don't see how is truck's fault in the gif. It was out of his control.
theoneinthebackontheleft
Truck drivers are guilty until proven innocent
AnotherLowski
But if they do run into a traffic jam, it often causes multiple casualties. First pic looks like car smashed betwenn two trucks to me.
photosforbikeforum
yes it does. Pancaked.
geiokami
That's why America needs to adopt the zipper method from Germany, you get in the lane you need to be in and fucking stay there.
Pugglebuttt
The Gif is from belgium. http://www.hln.be/regio/nieuws-uit-aalter/-overdreven-veel-geluk-gehad-a2089836/
phil1d
I always say there are three things you can't 'beat': death, taxes and traffic. Lane changers always fall behind in the long run
cogs
We've only been doing that in the US since there were more than three cars on the road. Assholes will be assholes.
canibFrank
ALSO, it's not just texting that's dangerous and irresponsible - messing with the radio, reaching for the cheeto that fell on the floor...
vintageseltzer
Preach. I'm so much more dangerous driving with a Taco Bell burrito than I've ever been with a phone
Pointlesscommentary
And billboards!
NoSandalsAllowed
Calling, texting ffs :(
fornikait
...clipping your fingernails
canibFrank
I (irresponsible one) just rear-ended a guy who stopped suddenly, b/c I was reaching for something on the passenger seat. $4300 @ body shop
PrincessDonaldTrumpBANNED
Its also dangerous to drive hungry. So grab that cheeto
isometimesgetreferences
only ifthe car is stopped/parked
pocktio
I got rear-ended by a guy who reached over to grab a truck stop sandwich on his passenger seat. Poor sandwich.
Kimanous
...blowjobs...
otiumCatulli
it's illegal to drive and eat/drink in the UK, not everyone seems to be aware of this.
mikeatike
In the US there may be local ordinances, but its not a law: http://blogs.findlaw.com/law_and_life/2014/01/is-it-legal-to-eat-and-drive.html
RMaybeth
Aw shit now you've given the f#cking Caliornia legislators new shit to make illegal...they'll pe passing that now...F$CK
SadHedgehog
Wait... Since when? But... Really? Then... What are the cup holders for? My mind is actually blown.
otiumCatulli
They're there to transport the cups only. And since when did car manufacturers make law-abiding cars, looking at you diesel cars!
SadHedgehog
Ah yes... I see now! But why isn't this more advertised/mentioned? I have literally never heard of it and been driving for a decade.
KeiCarsAreMyJam
Only if it's deemed careless driving. But it's still daft https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/advice/know-how/driving-myths-your-questions-answered/
KeiCarsAreMyJam
In fact lots of these are stupid. Wearing headphones and driving is one I personally hate. How are they possibly going to hear others?
RMaybeth
When in doubt i just assume everything is illegal in the UK, that goes double for Australia.
mikeatike
That is what @op is talking about the 3 second rule. 3 seconds to pick up that cheeto.
canibFrank
Now people are going to believe you and do this. MANAGE YOUR DAMN CHEETOS!! And no spaghetti or cereal while you're driving.
mikeatike
I actually saw someone eating from a bowl of cereal while driving a car when i was waiting to cross a street.
canibFrank
That's crazy!
mikeatike
I tried to point this out to other people nearby and nobody seemed to care.
RMaybeth
IKR I keep reminding mysalf to leave the fleshlight at home...I'M WORKING ON IT OK?
GilderoyPopDropNLockart
And driving sleep deprived is probably just as bad as driving drunk
MithridateEupator
Mythbusters claims it's much worse
daiconrad
Got in an accident once because I was sleep deprived. It's no joke. Luckily no one was hurt.
ashmenon
Yep. Stayed awake 4 days in college once, got behind the wheel. I do not remember getting home.
mikeatike
Was on a road trip with my boss and was confused as to why he was pulling over on a highway, looked over and he was asleep. Holy fuck.
whereareyoubear
But what am I supposed to do without my driving Cheetos?
Goldcart
Just try and keep yourself busy so you don't think about it. I find watching movies to really help with this.
canibFrank
Hold the bag on your lap, man.
whereareyoubear
It's so simple, it just might work.
canibFrank
What we need is a chip clip with a suction cup mount so you can clip the bag open then stick it to your window. Or a horse-type feed bag.
whereareyoubear
I would probably crash if I saw someone with a Cheeto bag strapped to their face while driving lol.
dviking
I've finally come to the realization that my super aggressive driving will either kill me, someone else, or both. I'm trying to slow down.
NoImgurImgurian
It is not fast, aggressive drivers causing accidents. SLOW drivers cause collisions. Multiple studies and the autobahn confirms. 1/2
NoImgurImgurian
People that drive slow in the left lane are breaking the law. It is not your responsibility to regulate OTHERS speed. Post otherwise acurate
cogs
If you listen to music while driving (I don't, it's distracting), try something that calms you.
dviking
I tend to listen to death metal
cogs
That may be part of the problem. You don't want anything that amps you up, not while driving, anyway.
cleverbeans
I try to be at the back of the pack when driving. That way I can see all the idiots when they fuck up and make decisions to keep me safe.
NoImgurImgurian
Actually WORST place to be. You shouldn't be ANYWHERE near a pack of drivers.
ojp1977
There is no try, either do or die - good luck, we're all in this together
Niddhoger
I had this realization before I turned 20. I ran some old lady off the road, and finally realized freaking out other drivers is a bad idea.
NoImgurImgurian
http://imgur.com/DFUezbO
SimoE
There's really no reason to drive aggressively and plenty to drive carefully. Save fuel, maintenance costs and still get there the same time
phil1d
Yeah I wish people would time themselves with their normal style and again with a 'no lane change rule' on their way to work
TomahawkJackson
Use Waze...religiously. I did and realized that *hyper-aggressive* (90+ on an empty 70 zone) gained me <1 minute over 11 miles. Not worth it
TomahawkJackson
Conversely, drove *exactly* the speed limit for a month. Saved $11 in gas. Wasted 4 extra hours in traffic. Limit+7 is the sweet spot.
johnvictor
Recommend learning defensive driving techniques and even taking courses.
RedPeggy
Good for you. Do it!
BiteTheHandsThatThieve
My rule of thumb is never trust anyone else on the road. It's kept me alive so far.
pcloppenbursch
Always imagine you would eventually kill a toddler in another car. He dies while you try first aid and the mother is stuck in her car...
DirtyBirdofQuestionableGeometry
You should hurry up to slow down.
mikeatike
"Hurry up and wait." People sitting at the next red light that passed you 2 minutes ago.
superwasabi
please stop your dick head driving thanks
moose9377
Sometimes the best defense is a good offense.
FullCrimsonic
*going to slow down
johnvictor
One way or another they will slow down. It may just be abrupt is all.
FullCrimsonic
And thankyou BTW.
anders8
Easy fix: do the math on driving 15mph over compared to leaving 4 minutes earlier. Turns out its really hard to make up time. Leave early.
TheIronMaiden
I don't drive aggressively because I'm late. I do it because I'm impatient and have no self control. I'm a jerk. I know it.
TheIronMaiden
..... And I'm doing my best to control my shitty choices.
wo1fie
Only works if you can do math. Works against you on long trips.
nosaucesbutapplesauces
It feels fine going 30mph in a 15mph zone, but wrong going 80mph in a 65mph zone. My long trips have higher limits, maybe its why math fails
wo1fie
In California our freeways post 75mph and slow people go 80mph. Fast people go over 100mph. Insane people go over 160mph.
wo1fie
I have personally been at 130mph for several minutes because in some areas you just can. That's also my car's limiter.
SKELETONMAAAN
Please do. Aggressive drivers are the reason why I'm scared of driving.
NoImgurImgurian
If you are scared of driving you should NOT be driving.
MethGasolinePissLemonade
It's all reaction times and how well you scan your environment. 95% of the time, you can see ahead when someone is going to be stupid.
SKELETONMAAAN
Not if they are coming from behind or from my side.
MethGasolinePissLemonade
If someone is going to hit me behind. I will let them. Obviously I don't think anyone wants it to happen. It does happen though.
FLOWDANGO
Never be scared of driving, just be aware and confident in driving and you will be fine.
SKELETONMAAAN
"Just don't be scared" is not exactly the best advice... I can't just like, stop.
Howtogrowwood
2nd gen trucker, I do my best to break certain stereotypes around truckers. I do everything i can not to tailgate, help me help you
ColtTheKid
Sit cool in the stool driver
phil1d
Only experience with a large truck was when I moved cross state and drove my stuff. Its like a different road in truck lane, so civil. 1/2
phil1d
I started to hate the little bugs that kept merging in front of me at the last second to make their exit. Much respect to professionals
Totallyscrewedinaustin
"Little bugs" lol
Sunil227
I had a good trucker exp recently. I flashed him to pull out in front. Waited till he over took. he let me by while giving a wave before 1/2
Sunil227
He over took the next truck. I like good truckers. I don't see many bad ones tbh.
johnvictor
Can you tell other truckers on the radio if a small car is behind you to not ride them too?
ExtremeAndViolentButtFun
I give truckers extra time with my blinker. Not sure if it helps any but I like to think it gives them more time to react if something hapns
thedarkcanuck
Unrelated, but I like to make a point of paying for a proper shower instead of washing my balls in the public washroom sink
gakio12
If you just get a rewards card from major truck stops, 50+ gallon fuel purchases get you a free shower.
thedarkcanuck
I like the Pilot/Flying J showers, but I'm supposed to fuel at the Husky, so I wind up going out of my way and paying. But Husky's are gross
SpectralFringe
Try the showers at a love's station, the ones up on the I15 are real nice and clean
thedarkcanuck
I'll keep that if I ever go into the US. I only do Ontario-Alberta so my options are Husky, Flying J, and Petro Canada, which is even worse
Nova5269
Not see anything for a good 10 seconds and couldn't break fast as I might have skidded into the ditch. Thanks for being a good driver.
krotuskang
I don't trust semi truck drivers at all. Some are ok, but sometimes you get the Meth'd out guy going 20 over.
Nova5269
Blizzard here a few months ago, everyone doing 35 & under, trucker passes me doing at least 50 and blows so much snow around me I could 1/2
smittywjmj
Hey, in my experience truckers are usually better and more courteous drivers than plenty of commuters. That CDL means something.
drfarren
at rushhour I always try to roll at a constant speed so the rigs don't have to start and stop. Saves your gas, clutch, and keeps cars moving
pimppapy
I may not always respect your safety buffer, but when I do, I get out of it ASAP
bud467
If I change into a lane in front of a trucker, I make sure to give them plenty of space so they don't have to slow down make space.
n0aim
Thank you for being one of those who dont failgate. Mad respect for all long haulers out there
stewie1087
ditto from a fellow driver
mikeatike
Yep. The safety zone depends on the vehicle you are IN FRONT OF, not the one you are in. I see people cutting semis off every day, morons.
DieselBrother
IMO people in general are bad drivers; bad truck drivers are just more memorable than bad car drivers.
Yougetthatthingisentya
How do you feel about people trying to get on the freeway who can't accelerate fast enough to get ahead of you but also are blocked from 1/2
Yougetthatthingisentya
2/3 dropping behind you by the tail of idiots that won't just pass you?
MoonbuttTheGreat
I'm going to make a "don't cut off truck drivers, they're bigger than you and you will lose badly" edit when I can get to a computer
Reorder
Here's three things. Empty trailers can bounce. Air brakes take more time to engage. And Loads can shift in hard brakes.
DieselBrother
Physics ALWAYS wins.
mowerguy
I just want this as a bumper sticker
ICouldGoForSomePie
maybe the size of a poster on the back of big trucks so people can see it
FuckGlitter
They shouldn't need them!!!
smokeditty
My biggest gripe about truckers, why pass anpother truck on hilly roads when you are going 1 mph faster. then you slow down bc going up (1)
5A5Wolf
Because truck1 might not be fully loaded, but truck2 is. 6 tons takes a while to stop.
smokeditty
(2) a hill when you can clearly see behind you that there are a line of cars doing 5-10 mph faster than you two.
pcloppenbursch
In my company it's forbidden to pass other trucks on the motorway. I think mostly it's done because of boredom.
spoolinup
The second gif has nothing to do with following distance
Candyclysm
Well when the car collided with the first semi and came to a stop, the distance was well over one car length between the van and the second
Candyclysm
Semi. It show how quickly you close large distances at highway speeds and shows that 1 car length clearly wouldn't give you enough time to
Candyclysm
React.
rdswords
But it has everything to do with making risky maneuvers when you don't have time or space to safely react.
spoolinup
That's on the car not the semi. Car did an illegal lane change.
MoonbuttTheGreat
Does bring into focus how quickly something can happen.
Kysimir
And the first picture was about a reckless truck driver.
chessnotcheckers
I agree, but it shows distance covered and reaction time, there was nothing that truck could do to avoid hitting the now dead idiot
Fozinator103
I understand that the person shouldn't change lanes, but non-moving traffic is illegal on a highway and can get someone killed.
jimyginger
Actually, that gif was circulating Reddit a while back, she lived. In a coma or some shit, but she lived
csillagvihar
How tf? Jesus, I wouldn't wanna live after something like that...
MoonbuttTheGreat
That was meant as an example of how quick something can happen at highway speeds, car was already wrecked before he knew what was happening
rotten2core
actually they lived with minor injuries believe it or not
Ilikeyogurt
What?! Source please
MoonbuttTheGreat
Aggressive driving, just making a point haha
spoolinup
You didn't include any weighted vehicle math.
MoonbuttTheGreat
I shouldn't have to, this is referring to the average driver, most of which drive a car.
spoolinup
They aren't the only ones on the road dipshit. You might not know this but you drive with different vehicles on the road at the same time.
MoonbuttTheGreat
Hey, hey, hey, what if maybe you took this as a generalized information post. Or better yet, do your own math and make your own post. Yeah?
BattleMercy
Your .17s also assumes that the car in front of you goes from 60-0 in an instant, which you also disproved by saying about how long it took
MoonbuttTheGreat
It's a generalized scenario providing a simple to understand qualification of why giving room is important
BattleMercy
To stop from that speed, however you are 100% correct in that people NEED TO LEAVE SOME FUCKING ROOM.
RacecarRoadcar
I think the hatchback's driver dozed off behind the wheel.
spoolinup
Doubt it. They decided to take the exit at the last second and performed illegal multi lane change.
RacecarRoadcar
Good observation. I didn't see that the side road was an exit.
spoolinup
Poor road design really, off ramp should have quick traffic flow to avoid back ups like that onto the roadway.
RacecarRoadcar
It's a common problem in many parts of Europe.
Animala144
"after a discussion with a mentally deficient Imgurian" So like.....a regular Imgurian?
mikeatike
Think of how dumb the average imgurian is, and realize half of them are spambots.
Cere4l
nono, sub-average! even worse than the regular imgurian
reuvil
The more you tailgate me the further I drop back behind the car in front of me. So, if they brake I have time for both of us to stop safely
pcloppenbursch
that's what i learned in truck-school.
NoImgurImgurian
That's fine unless you are in far left "passing" lane. Otherwise you will get a ticket.
Beruthiel10
Same. Especially so for semi trucks who tailgate me.
Itseemedreasonable
While having distance and driving defensively are great, distance is often out of your control in/around big cities
cleverbeans
I have never had this problem even when I lived in Houston. Drive slower and you'll create space in front and people won't stay behind you.
liamstrain
Right. They'll tear around you in a huff, and cut in front of you to try and save 11 seconds on their commute - causing a bigger hazard.
glassweaver
Yeah, but you can at least try to follow the 2 second rule, and it's not that hard in 30mph / stop go traffic.
Ivain
Or on any busy road, tbh. Because people are dicks.
DaDisser
You also aren't drying 65 in the city i'd hope.
Itseemedreasonable
Whatever the flow of traffic is moving, sometimes it's around the speed limit, usually lower
mikeatike
This is why you shouldn't be doing 60mph in a city area.
Itseemedreasonable
Whatever safe flow of traffic
Holinyx05
True, but speed is not. It's usually the people driving over the speed limit that cause wrecks
cleverbeans
Following too close is the number one cause of accidents. Speeding is the number one cause of fatalities.
WackeTheGniessButte
I have to disagree. It's usually the people not paying attention, regardless of their speed.
skylark28
And today, people will actually get MAD at you if you leave more than a carlength in front. Then they drive crazily to get in front of you.
twfeline
The reason why you pay so much for auto insurance is because people like that end up learning the hard way.
Opportunist
"Oh look, a space!"
skylark28
And that's when I shot him, your honor.
effinsaint
Driving is the most dangerous thing most of us do all day.
aggrogahu
One day all cars will have autopilot, and no one will have to risk their lives trying to get from one place to another.
phil1d
I've been wanting this on a bumper sticker. In terms of accidental death, only heroin kills more people.
photosforbikeforum
I started bike commuting an hour each way because I could not take it anymore.
OSCgal
You wear a helmet, right?
photosforbikeforum
Yes, helmet, lights, protected bike lane for all but first and last mile.
ryner244
Depending on where you live, biking is probably even less safe. :/
photosforbikeforum
unfortunately.
atenaz713
As someone from the UK, exactly this
RedPhanthom
Know someone who's stuck in coma because riding bike in South Florida. Sorta expected to hear it happen.
photosforbikeforum
sorry to read that.
KeiCarsAreMyJam
Both motor and pedal cycles :(
MoisturizeMeCaptain
I've been thinking about doing this. Where do you keep your bike while you work? What if it rains?
photosforbikeforum
If it rains i drive.
photosforbikeforum
In my office. I take it up the freight elevator.
LittlePoseidon
Like really. What do you have to lose by giving cars space? I know we all do it sometimes but at least try to drive safe
odetomymatt13
Wow, it's amazing to see someone in the comments accept that they aren't perfect all the time.
RMaybeth
in caliornia the traffics always bumper to bumper so you dont have to worry about hitting shit at all.
Spkch
That GIF was in Belgium... Horrifying, but somehow the driver managed to survive that shit.
buckbuckbuckybuck
The kid toys that went flying.... I was praying there wasn't a kid in there. Not their fault their parent is a dumbass.
Nelliepoo
Thank you for saying that. I was honestly kind of depressed thinking that I just watched someone die ;_; I hope they drive safer now...
Howtokillabrand
How the hell did he survive that?
DLVX
Roughly translated, she crushed her hand, broke her neck and went in a coma. She woke up and is not paralysed, but has heavy revalidation...
Howtokillabrand
Damn lucky she is not paralyzed. People die from driving into light poles and she survives this..
BattyWhack
Amazing auto engineering?
Howtokillabrand
More like witchcraft
DLVX
Mind you, the article is from 2014.
Spkch
http://www.hln.be/regio/nieuws-uit-aalter/-overdreven-veel-geluk-gehad-a2089836/
ojp1977
Google translate is our "friend", thank you for the line
Cere4l
i dont think overdreven (exagerated amount of luck) is the proper word to use here...
TheOriginalWindian
Also this is why you don't cut two lanes like that. Regardless of how late you might be.
sethyuikora
Glad somebody else noted the blind double lane-change.
ObliqueRay
Not even a two lane problem. At that distance from the truck he has ZERO visibility of the right lane. Only a complete moron would go right.
TimurKl
And if there's trucks on your lane, trust me there's more on the right.
noturaveragepunk
I'll admit it, I did this once, and luckily all I got was a huge dent in the hood. But when I did it I had to merge from the ramp onto 1/2
noturaveragepunk
the highway and then get to the left lane as the highway forked into two different directions.
FluffyPuddles
https://youtu.be/8ivycTcNvJQ
Titititititititititidididididi
Always better late than dead!
theFinks
r/peopleACTUALLYfuckingdying
johnvictor
1 You can always turn around further ahead. With GPS as well, getting lost isn't as big a concern. Though the rule I follow is when the
johnvictor
2 GPS tells me I'm within 5 miles of my turnoff point I try to get in the lane for it, I should be in it within 1 mile.
mikeatike
It also depends on the road, the speed traffic is going, if you know which side of the road the exit is on. (fuck you, left exits, fuck you)
johnvictor
Fucking Louisville is FULL of them. Drove through it so many times, it's such a shit show with those left exits...
WhatsaKingtoaGod
If you leave for your destination late, then don't try to rush, you're obviously late. Better late than dead.
Bootsy81
I see this shit all the time and it makes me madder than hell.
Favri
Just think of how infinitely more late you will be if shit like this happens....
adjerry91
I agree! If your about to miss exit don't rush into it! Take the next exit.
snomang
Im always late - my ex
dmax12
fucking being late. the difference in times from a reckless driver and a very good driver is less than five minutes for city driving.
jomama64
This is why I still use my Garmin with well known commutes. Being told how far my exit is gives me the proper heads up to start moving over
Lambast
It looks a bit like bags full of stuff for young kids flying out after the car gets hit a second time. Maybe not, but what a moron.
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mikeatike
Are you kidding? You think that car would have been able to stop if they had seen the truck a couple of lengths earlier?
MyCatsAreBetterThanYourCats
No, he just wouldn't have gone in the lane if he could see the truck there, moron. Hence, "one of which completely blindly".
zigurat
To make it worse, that highway exit is a well known traffic jam spot during rush hour. I passed there every week when I lived in Belgium.
TheSqeeek
A few years ago someone near me cut 5 lanes to get to an exit she didn't want to miss, rolled a van with four kids in it. I don't
TheSqeeek
remember how many died, but it wasn't good. Best part is that the next exit only adds a 2 minute delay. Takes that long to drive between
TheSqeeek
the two exits through the town.
xuriV
Actually this is an unrelated gif as you can tell by the car color. That woman in the gif survived with a broken elbow I think. Ridiculous.
xuriV
lol I got downvoted. Here's your sauce, 'tards- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKNQG6pSYig
Conniefoo21
There were toys in the vehicle. Anyone know if there were children in there? Please let the answer be no.
JustBecauseIRockDoesntMeanImMadeOfStone
No just the mom and she made it out with pretty severe but non life threatening injuries. The white Ford that is. That red car idk.
Conniefoo21
Thank yooou
NeverTooSoon
Try telling that to Californians. Those dipshits can't drive for shit.
NoMoneyManyProblems
You should take a dip into Kansas and feel your jaw drop. Kcmo drivers are assholes, but KcK drivers will get you killed.
Samarshall7
KcK KcMo imjurian here, can confirm drivers are shit. Not a day goes by i dont see 3 plus cars speed weaving through a 2 lane road.
argentfenix
You spelled New Yorkers wrong.
ObliqueRay
You spelled everyone wrong.
Angrypotato21
Come to Florida, I see at least one person pulled over by cops and/or a crash every week.
xSavageMindx
Lives in Port shithole FL: can confirm
HectoProtecto
Moved to Michigan, from California's Bay Area, and I still feel the same about driver's. Percentage of idiot drivers hasn't diminished.
mxjxs91
Was a delivery guy in Metro Detroit for 4 years, can confirm.
iwanttomountndewya
Am from Bay Area, can attest that my Bay Area brethren are a bunch of fucks
MrHashSlingingSlasher
Or if you migbt miss an exit, just turn around at the next one
IFitsWhenISits
Because now you'll be even later, or worse yet, dead.
RawDogginChixSince2000Six
No they dead
letmenumberthatforyou
Or worse, expelled!
SJohnson23
I think everyone in that car is now late.
Renza0
Depends who you ask, some may argue they got to their destination exactly when they were supposed to.
IHEARTSNORLAX
OHHHH DOUBLE PUNNN
SumoSGazer
Desh23
This was in Belgium. Everyone knows this exit is always backed out. Always. It was a young mom. She survived with no mayor issues.
TheTrueQuarian
Good thing too, next stop the white house.
FutureHylian
Good to hear the mayors stance in the issue
PassiveAggressiveHotdogVendor
Hope she lost her license.
SecondSince
and her kids. Reckless endangerment.
MuayThaiwinLannister
HOW? I died WATCHING this
imAUser
Scratched car.... major issue
smjack99999
Glad to hear city politics are not in play.
INeedToChangeMyUsername
Was the kid in the car?
YouGoPuppy
Holy shit, I thought that car had been pulverized, never imagined ANYBODY surviving that, especially after that second hit.
Thruen
Damn she was lucky! She's probably not gonna do that kind of lane switch ever again.
Ilikeworkingforabankbecauseigetgoodconditions
And they're fixing it currently!
LevainAvatar
That's really surprising, I would have thought they died. They got hit pretty damn hard
bunnynamednelson
She was very lucky not to have been directly hit in either of the crashes.
nitemancometh
If you study it long enough, you'll find that the blunt of the second impact is focused on the rear hatch. By a miracle, she survived.
WhatsaKingtoaGod
And by some miracle, she'll pull another stunt like this next time she's behind the wheel. Stay tuned for next week's crash.
WillDownvoteForDrinks
I would need a source for this, seems impossible. If true, great safety commercial for said car manufacturer.
LexWNM
@Spkch shared the (Belgian) link somewhere below this post: http://www.hln.be/regio/nieuws-uit-aalter/-overdreven-veel-geluk-gehad-a2089836/
Thruen
thanks
Desh23
Basically it says she was extremely lucky and has a long recovery ahead
WillDownvoteForDrinks
Thanks for delivering!
BattleMercy
Your math would be a bit off, because you assume that he car in front of you goes fro 60 to 0 instantly, however you are right, room, people
SadToSay
I was going to point this out as well but the sentiment is what's important. People need to remain a safe distance behind.
jridley
It's not instant but it's pretty fast.My car will sense if I'm jabbing the brakes fast and fully engage ABS before the pedal is 1/2 way down
MoonbuttTheGreat
Didn't go into a full analysis as I'm already in the middle of finals week, just wanted to provide a bit of a 'give room' foundation
kuriosly
Yah, and that second example is a bit off, because the second lane being at near stop is rare and changes the situation substantially.
BattleMercy
Of course, I'm merely saying that there is reaction time, but that doesn't excuse tailgating at any speed, much less high speeds
H41H44
That car in the second gif hit 0 pretty quickly.............
EvilEkips
We are basically told "speed you drive per h/10000". So at 50km/h at least 5m distance, at 120km/h 12m.
SpectralFringe
(semi driver here) i was taught, on clear dry roads, you need 9 seconds to react AND stop properly
BattleMercy
Leave some fucking room.
Memaleph
Yes and no. Reaction time covers that problem. Even if both cars slow down at the same rate, you need 88 ft before second car starts to stop
Memaleph
Here we say that you need a 2 seconds space to be safe (which is quite a lot on the high way). It's a good way to take reaction time & speed
BattleMercy
Yep, but I was merely saying that while you need 88 feet to start to stop, the car in front of you can't go from 60-0 instantly, so you're
BattleMercy
Both going to be traveling forwards, albeit the car in front of you slowing down, so in reality, it's going to be about 150 feet in front of
BattleMercy
Of the car in front of you that becomes the stop location, not in place
ILikePrettyColours
ops estimation of the average human reaction speed is 4 times higher than what it actually is.
RecurringNightmare
what it actually is in a lab test, people on the road are distracted by the stereo and/or tired, so better give yourself a bit of extra time
ILikePrettyColours
Not in a lab test. I'm not saying they shouldn't leave room but it is what it is. Scaremongering doesn't help people improve.
NOlesen
god i hate it when cars cut me off because im giving my self room to stop.
vind21
Anyone who thinks you can observe a three second rule has never actually been on a highway, nuff said.
corsettedconfectioner
All. The. Fucking. Time.
StuntinTableFlipper
All. The. Time. = ATL = Atlanta, GA... where motorists of a 5.5 million population sized city get Drivers Licenses at Wal-Mart.
WhatsaKingtoaGod
So, that's the culprit issuing them their licenses... I always wondered how these degenerates are on the road.
firefighter26
I get this all the time "That's not merge room, that's my safe driving distance you asshole" - me muttering to myself
macthelost
This. This is why nobody gives adequate follow distance, because other drivers just think you are making a space for them.
putski
I get that driving a fire truck. People think 17 tonnes stops just as quick as a 2T car.
SoMenSayThatImIntenseOrImInsane
Happens to me all day long.
mentalcaries
true fact. I thought driving on the beltway in DC was hazardous...until I moved to Texas.
BrokenInAndOut
Yes, and yes. I don't get it. Because the secs. they are saving by going in front of me will do so much for their date. Fucking hate them.
pooplop21
we're at a point now where people need to be horrified by show them the consequences of doing this show them car crushed into cubes with 1/2
pooplop21
2/2 people inside because they got hit in rear and ended up squashed under a truck in front. I've witnessed it happen, never forget that day
Tehsyr
Oh my fucking god. Took a vacation to New York City and drove there. SO MANY FUCKING PEOPLE DO THIS, JESUS CHRIST!!!
Techtronic
Or when they cut me off while I'm turning because I'm respecting the painted lines (not highway. A town intersection)
doglucy
I don't do that unless I am really in a hurry. Sorry.
OmnibusLatinName
There is no such thing as safe following distance. It's like those rare particles, there just long enough to observe...
justmenotU
Yep. May as well put it in reverse.
yourmamacantgetenough
man, where i live if they dont trade paint they didnt cut you off. damn dense around here
keyascii392
Right on point!
ryanmknowles
A-friggin- men
abstraction21
This x10000
WeirdStealth
I've made a few people shit them selves when they try to weave in and out, and get a few feet from my back bumper.
FallingWithStyleSquirrel
Every damn day
kaibutter
its good to be safe. people are dicks on the highway. just gotta keep on truckin man.
SadHedgehog
People are dicks full stop. I just expect dick moves while driving. Safer that way.
TheyCallMeMisterPig1
Truth. Do what I do and speed up just enough to not let them cut in
Chalybos
This is why it's a good thing that my State doesn't allow for open carry. I would have to reload while driving to work.
SmolderingBanana
I'll lay on my horn until they either get back in their lane, or get out of my buffer.
pineappllee
It is impossible to have a safe space between you and the car in front of you in DC, Northern Virginia and Maryland. You ALWAYS get cut off
Mochba
Or worse, cut you off and speed towards a red light. Expert level douchebaggery.
mellino19
Come to Boston
NOlesen
drove in Boston even google said STAHP!
MercilessLTD
Yes. This is how I got into an accident 4 years ago. She pulled in my front safe zone as traffic was stopping. I had no where to go.
Mythis
Were you considered to be at fault?
MercilessLTD
The insurance companies settled for me to be at 80% fault. The policewoman never even saw my truck or the scene. Many wrong things...
DaymanAaaah
Correct me if I am wrong but if they do this and cause an accident and you can prove it, it is their fault.
NOlesen
in most cases yes. but the cops will always write you a ticket.
imgurisbecomingcancer
Hawaii in a nutshell. Fuck this place.
boogersweretasty
Yes!!
v6sonoma
This!
afx82
People drive like they were immortal, a semi truck in the b-hole will change their minds.
UnemployedReceptionist
Failed my driving test because I followed the 3 minute rule, and the instructor nagged me to start driving recklessly... on a motorbike...
QueenoftheRats
What's the 3 minute rule?
UnemployedReceptionist
3 Second. My bad.
sunnydayingermany
Get there in 3 minutes
davidbowieeyes
mcd0g
As someone once said to me, "nature abhors a vacuum."
DopaminePillager
Dotty mcdotty dot
AlexDuos
Happens every thirty seconds when I drive in a major city. I don't see how they do it!
PrincessDonaldTrumpBANNED
I'm that asshole who drives slow in major cities. Except around DC and Miami. Gotta drive like speed racer there.
FallingWithStyleSquirrel
DC is the first big city I've lived in. Driving here is awful.
Rheios
Drive the speed limit in Vegas. Just got honked at and then told to fuck off for it on the way home today. The hate sustains me
Unkwnsoldier83
My wife started try to make me drive less "aggressive" now and THAT shit happens to me all the fuckin' time now. HATE IT.
imAUser
This is why i follow trucks. Theyre slower but nobody will cut in front of u to b behind it
Khatvogel
That is why we have a rule that says you always need to be as far to the right as possible on highways
Cosmogonic
the ford focus crash happened in belgium. here's the source (and why it's a bad example)
Cosmogonic
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/driver-in-belgium-survives-the-most-deadliest-of-crashes-9800643.html
Cosmogonic
TL;DR: the driver skipped a lane in front of a truck without visibility, rammed a stationnary truck due to a traffic jam down the exit ramp.
Cosmogonic
chances to avoid the crash with the 4-6-7 second rule? NONE.
Cosmogonic
http://www.carscoops.com/2014/10/woman-hits-truck-gets-struck-by-2nd.html
Cosmogonic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKNQG6pSYig
catskhiker
Why you think that possible extra second will matter ? Letting cars slide in, will help traffic flow & get you there faster.
dividebysunrise
I want to upvote this more than once goddammit
antoinebugleboy
Consider how much time you actually lose over the course of your trip or commute if you just let them, vs aggressively blocking.
dbqpdbqp
my exact thought.. it's so damn frustrating.
Kayback
And tailgate me and I must leave MORE room in front for you to stop as well.
InRetrospectIShouldveLearnedToSwimBeforeBecomingaSailor
I love tailgaters, they're always really angry people. Just tap your brakes / slow right down & then blast your horn when they blast theirs.
Passw0rd1
With a manual transmission just shift down. Your car will slow down while your brake lights stay off. An excellent way to scare tailgaters.
InRetrospectIShouldveLearnedToSwimBeforeBecomingaSailor
I prefer them to know I'm deliberately being a dick, but each to their own.
Kayback
Personally I like to find slower traffic like an 18wheeler and match their speed. But local laws say you HAVE to give way to faster traffic
phil1d
Just use your wiper fluid.
InRetrospectIShouldveLearnedToSwimBeforeBecomingaSailor
I used to have a car that this worked with! It'd hit every car behind me and never land on my windscreen
Aylasita
The closer you get, the slower I'll go!! Fine if you don't respect your own life but at-least respect that of others who wants to live.
ballonknot
I've gotten so tired of this that I now speed up to block them. Its like standing in line, don't cut in front of me because there is space.
Flibo
That's not great behaviour. Sometimes people need to change lanes. If no one gives them space, they'll cause traffic by stopping to merge.
blackbenetavo
Exactly. It's almost impossible maintain safe distances on a busy highway/interstate. Any room you leave will just be filled up by others.
ElbowDeepInAHeadlessHorseman
It's much less annoying if you watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtwY9xKfaYo . You're actually preventing traffic jams behind you.
ElbowDeepInAHeadlessHorseman
Just gotta change your mindset a bit that when that those merges happen you're being a silent highway hero :)
catkisBaroness
Wow. Thanks for posting that link. Interesting.
Mayaabb
You should drive in Beirut, if you leave any space at all some idiot is gonna cut you off for sure.
efemral
I worked out a good solution. Travel behind trucks or busses. Assholes don't cut in behind those vehicles even if they're not slow.
TheLetterKay
Youve never lived in texas then. No such thing as too small a space for these dumbasses to try to squeeze into.
WeirdStealth
Military vehicles, if they're doing the speed limit, but if not, oh well. Also NEVER get in the middle of a group of them, that's mean.
Spongybunny
I avoid being behind trucks if at all possible. I've had one of them kick up a rock and smash my windshield before.
SupercalifragilisticexpialidociousShenanigans
Nice to use one as a pacecar and just chill during longer trips. Just make sure your in sight and there's merge room for anyone getting on
TheOneWhoSucks
I love following trucks for that reason. Also takes longer for them to stop because of the inertia, so you have a bit more reaction time.
efemral
Yay a fellow truck follower :D
johnvictor
Don't forget reduced air resistance behind them even at safe distances which is better fuel economy.
ericdidit
For real. I go from 7l/100km to 4.2 while following a truck at 100km/hr
SuperPickle17
Except you have 0 vision in front of them add you depend on them to react. Plus, if you hit the back end of one. It's not a fun time.. (1/2)
efemral
Well the idea is that you can leave enough space behind the truck to give yourself time to react. Unless they hit a wall or something.
SuperPickle17
You'd be surprised how fast a truck with modern braking system can stop. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ridS396W2BY
SuperPickle17
I had a buddy who hit the backend of one... http://imgur.com/24UCn9a How he survived, i have no fucking clue.
Radix865
Just make sure you don't tailgate them either, they literally can't see you if you drive up their ass.
MaskMan191
They literally can't see you if you are anywhere directly behind them.
Radix865
The mirrors are out to the side far enough so they can see you if you're back far enough, still not a great visibility.
Tallanasty
I still don't see how this is allowed. It's mandatory for all vehicles yet we let the most dangerous get away with doing whatever they want.
MaskMan191
No matter what law is in place, it's physically impossible to see through a massive fucking semi-trailer. Passenger vehicles get away with
cembry90
[1/4] How what's allowed? If you're driving within 150 ft or so of the back end of a semi with a 53 ft trailer, they start to lose sight of
Maevellous
I used to get really mad at that shit. But then i realised getting angry at idiots is like getting angry at the weather. Compensate for both
politelyinsulting
My grandfather put it this way in driving lessons: Everyone has a Stupidity Bubble. They need room to make mistakes AND for you to react.
eazolan
Plus, I take sweet satisfaction in my accident-free driving history.
TapewormJuice
Well spoken sir.
ChiLLeCheeze
I just put on some chill music. Don't give a fuck anymore. I can stay in traffic and just sing my anger away. No one is listening to me.
Maevellous
Yea man its all you can do. Let the idiots be idiots
thyfartismurder
TheSquareRootOfPandaPawsIceCream
I agree with you. At the same time, I'd rather just keep those drivers in front of me anyways.
Obandigo
Same here...Every morning. I just roll with it. I just let them jump in front of me...Idiots will be Idiots.
namiasdf
Well.... If there is an accident, you're gonna drive into it, rather than leave it behind.
Maevellous
Nope. Because im not likely to be tailgating and will have enough time to stop.
namiasdf
Yes, but it will still be in front of you.
Murloh
Dad, is that you?
Apollogize
I hope you find him someday, mate!
NotquiteThereyet00
I just learned something.
HalfPintKatie
Drive defensively ppl...defensively.
nouseforaheart
And you know the best defense is a good offense!
HalfPintKatie
Are you THAT guy? Lol!
NOlesen
its when im towing a 30 foot trailer that weighs a shit ton. i cant just stop on a dime.
BroncosFanSince97
I feel the same way at UPS in the PKG cars. Those mofos are heavy for their size. Getting cut off has ruined my day numerous times. 1/2
BroncosFanSince97
The worst is getting cut off and having to hit the breaks harder than planned and dropping ALL the nicely organized pkgs of the shelves.
kakum31
It irritates me when I get that and I'm pretty sure my small-ass car only weighs 80lbs.
PrincessDonaldTrumpBANNED
Just get better brakes. I hear hitting a car adds to your stopping power.
kakum31
Is a car carcass the opposite of flame decals?
Maevellous
Yea people are fucking idiots. They forget. Or plain dont understand the forces at work when driving.
TheClayKnight
More the second. People aren't taught physics in a meaningful sense in k-12. Things like momentum would be good for everyone to know.
TheClayKnight
(In the US anyways, maybe other countries do better with practical physics education)
davidthemonkey
or....they just don't give a shit...
Maevellous
Those people i want to grab by the collar and take them to an accident.
d3vilsavocado
Get a dash cam, so you can prove you were following the road rules in the event you rear end some dickwad who cut you off.
NOlesen
i have a dash cam in my car my 16 year olds car. ill need to upgrade the cam in the truck. 40 bucks is cheap
CauseFactor
In most cases it doesn't matter you rear-ended them, here in Ontario it's like that
lka1988
You missed the part where a dash cam was mentioned.
TheMonsterWithinYou
This. They seem to think that distance is me letting them in. No dipshit. It's for me to safely slow down in case of emergencies
LeeroyTheBird
Amen! They're all idiots!
lixelpixel
The emergency is that they just HAVE to be in your lane, RIGHT NOW!!!! Assholes
shredder134
so you back off, then someone else pulls in, and again. feels like you're moving backwards
glassweaver
Where I live, most shit stains speed up & close their buffer if you use your turn signal. I use mine but empathize with those who don't.
Kehy
Sucks dude. Here, most people are reasonable and generally helpful if you're trying to change lanes, and not a douche
glassweaver
I LOVE Iowa drivers for this exact reason. The part I go to sometimes, you cross the border and BAM! Mostly good drivers!
Superking420
do you live in tampa
glassweaver
In or around Chicago, IL....I vacation in Florida a lot though - y'all are just as crazy down there.
TheMonsterWithinYou
I always try to use my turn signal unless there isn't really anyone on the rod but myself. Thing is sometimes even with turn signals (1)
TheMonsterWithinYou
People don't let you in. Smh I've had that happen to me several times. I live in CA Bay Area. (2/2)
lonelylinguist
I find I prefer east bay driving (880/580)—people are more aggressive, but more predictable than the jackballs on the peninsula (101/280).
IamJustinSane
THIS! This is the real problem. You can't leave 2-3 car lengths, because someone just fills it, and now you have to drop back even more.
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IheartTrashpandas
On the southern east coast the left lane is for driving like our God and savior, Dale Earnhardt.
PaintedSlothMilkshake
I follow at a 2-3 distance & someone behind me starts to flash the brights b/c he/she think I'm slow. No, I am being safe in traffic
MaximumMarks
Can't you just pass them on the left lane?
LeeroyTheBird
Not where I live, at least. People seem to confuse the purpose of that lane. It's either the "fast lane," which isn't right because they (1/
LeeroyTheBird
Still don't get out of the way if the person behind you is going faster, or they get it right and consider it the "passing lane," but (2/3)
LeeroyTheBird
They decide that they're just going to pass everyone even when the other lane is open
IamJustinSane
Only if you do the exact same thing to them and then slow down to get your space again, and he just does the exact same thing back to you.
bamblebimble
I mean you could just constantly be passing flying down the left side on an interstate. Technically you wouldn't need to go in front of anyo
InRetrospectIShouldveLearnedToSwimBeforeBecomingaSailor
Well on the plus side, long trips wouldn't be boring anymore.
SuperPickle17
Road rage always adds excitement.
PotatOSLament
Story time. My uncle was once pulled over for tailgating even though he liked to follow the 10mph=10 feet between cars rule bc others (1/2)
PotatOSLament
Kept cutting and he had to slow down, car cuts, rinse repeat. He told the officer "if I kept leaving space, I'd be back where I started."
LeeroyTheBird
Did he get a ticket or did the cop buy that explanation?
IamJustinSane
Exactly, you'd be going backwards.
thedarkcanuck
You would hate Montreal
vintagevix
I was literally thinking that since this happens on my commute every day in MTL.
JayEnfield
Try to drive safe there, schoolbus passes you doing 180kph, with every one of the little fuckers in the windows flipping you off.
thedarkcanuck
All smoking and eating smoked meat sandwiches too. Bastards.
IamJustinSane
From Ottawa, I try to drive in Montreal as little as possible. You have to drive like you're in a Mad Max movie or you won't get anywhere.
thedarkcanuck
I spent two months driving truck from Belleville to Montreal/Quebec corridor. You think driving four wheels is stressful there, try eighteen
IamJustinSane
That would be 4.5 times more stressful. ????
IamJustinSane
That would be 4.5 times more stressful. ????
thedarkcanuck
I did the calculation once, I think the exact number was 4.5239 or something
zma123456
People are idiots. No truck can brake on a dime especially if its carrying heavy loads, or liquid. Stay clear of trucks.
Mkonemo
your comment needed only the first three words. The rest is redundant.
zma123456
Actually no, my comment, which I commented earlier, that comment is not redundant. I did not repeat myself in my previous comment.
Mkonemo
"Redundant" might not be the right synonym. My english betraied me. I just meant "People are idiots" was enough to explain the situation
BonaFide
It take well over 300 yards to stop a semi on the highway. A guy stopped in the middle lane WAY in front of me once. I almost lost the (1)
BonaFide
Plywood I was carrying. Luckily the idiot realized what was about to happen just in time to floor it.
MtDew
And please be courteous to us truckers. Dives me insane when I have my turn signal on and people don't let me in.
VibratingNipples
I guess I'm one of those nice people that take the time to slow down to let you truckers move over =P
MtDew
And I appreciate that. A lot of people are courteous and I always try to thank then when they are.
TheWittierRape
Once when I was driving home at night there was a huge semi behind me it was pretty far back but some asshole coming in from the on ramp 1/?
TheWittierRape
cut off the guy 2 cars in front of me. I managed to stop in time, screeching halt but that truck was not gonna stop in time. The poor 2/?
TheWittierRape
guy was even trying to get on the shoulder to avoid hitting me but it was not gonna happen. Managed to get past the fuckstick in front 3/?
TheWittierRape
of me but still barely missed getting hit. Could even hear his tires screaming. Don't be a shitty driver kids. You could hurt someone 4/4
TheGamingBaconator
Just ignore physics. Most drivers seem to, anyway.
adadsupreme
In the case above it was the truck driver tailgating.
Javertoldfriend
Freaks me the fuck out when I get stuck between trucks and the asshats in front make it to where I'm about to recreate the matrix scene.
Beruthiel10
This is why I slow way the fuck down when trucks tailgate me.
Goodmerlinpeen
If that truck was tailgating the car then the truck driver is the idiot who should have been clear of the car
johnvictor
Hope he doesn't sleep at night anymore because he killed people.
jrmiller1001
He will be in prison. Truck drivers are automatically responsible for accidents unless proof is available showing it was unavoidable.
carbolicious
The only time I've ever been scared driving was when a semi was tailgating me at under 10 feet going 75mph. Drove 90mph to escape.
Koshunae
My dad was hit by a semi that run a red light. The truck slid 102 feet before the light and 137 feet after the light.
Reorder
Snap change traffic lights!
Koshunae
It wasnt snap change. He was going way too fast. His logs showed he had made an 8 hour drive in about 5 hours.
Koshunae
The officers had gotten calls about him all the way up to that point, and it nearly killed my dad.
Reorder
oh yeah that's speeding, very fast. there's a highway here that has snap change lights that have people, cars+trucks, sliding through.
mathnerd314
Also stay aware of trucks. Give them room to change lanes, be aware they change lanes for cars on the shoulder, etc.
MrPinoShow
If I'm on the highway and there's a truck I try to stay away from it if I can. The mass, the traveling speed and other dumb drivers scare me
animatronicvelcrorat
I was cut off by a guy a while back. I drive a 1976 E250. With only 2 car lengths. I am at fault. Fuck everything.
blackmagic12345
Dashcam dude.
animatronicvelcrorat
It was some time ago, but nothing I can do about it now
RoseFaery
Dash cam?
itsybitsyspider
My state has an auto-fault if you hit the back of someone's car. I may have to invest in a dashcam because there are people who try to --
itsybitsyspider
-- abuse that to get insurance off of you.
animatronicvelcrorat
I think that is actually exactly what happened to me. Illinois here and same law. Absolute BS, really.
LastElf
I drive an MX5 and the number of SUVs that think they can tailgate me is insane
MrPinoShow
As someone who doesn't speak in English as main language, but is a driver (22Yo almost), what does tailgating means?
WulffMaster
Tailgating is when the person following you is less than 1 car length from your rear bumper, this means they will have a bad time if you 1/2
relicen
There's not really a clear definition like that. It's just driving closely behind another car.
MrPinoShow
Got it, thanks... Bad wording on my side, I meant an explanation :)
blackmagic12345
Gluing yourself to someone elses back bumper. Often done with the intent of being a massive douchebag.
MrPinoShow
Oh, okay, that... Yeah, one of the first things you should be taught when you start driving
WulffMaster
2/2 have to stop suddenly
MrPinoShow
Got it, thanks <3
SeeTheNumbersTasteTheViolence
Volvo are working on tech that can stop a truck from 50MPH in sub 10 feet. Will find video.
Mkonemo
I saw it, it was truly impressive. It's a sort of Formula One experience for truck drivers
SeeTheNumbersTasteTheViolence
To blow you mind even more. The trailer had 40 tonnes of weight in it
Reorder
It would bounce on its tires if it was empty.
callicat
Thats 50 Kmh
SeeTheNumbersTasteTheViolence
https://youtu.be/ridS396W2BY - seriously good tech. Could save so many lives
BasisPoints
If only trucking companies would fork out the $150k for their tractors, or independents could afford them...
zma123456
They are still working on the tech but this will help a lot.
SeeTheNumbersTasteTheViolence
Yeah dude. Looks promising. Its a shame it needs to be created but sadly its the world we live in
HESXenon
lesson from this video: don't tailgate trucks, they may brake harder than you
PageNo
So if you have to be infront of a truck on the highway you better make sure it's a Volvo.
DuckyofDeath123
A new one. With this tech. Turned on.
TK421isAFK
In Sweden of Germany, because it'll take 20 years to get that shit approved in the US.
DuckyofDeath123
Not Germany. It's full of modern lorries being driven by former Soviets with no regard for safety or human life. None.
davidthemonkey
how.... like, did they turn physics off for a bit or something?....it looks like they only use front brakes, i thought maybe they have 1/2
davidthemonkey
2/2 brakes on all wheels or something to increase friction?
relicen
They have brakes on all wheels. Looks like front brake because the cab has it's own suspension, so it tips forward independently of the rest
davidthemonkey
ahh coolio thanks
CrazyCatLad
Hamsters start running the other way.
davidthemonkey
dem must be some big hamsters
PiffTheMagicDildo
I was working with CDL drivers who thought that the heavier the load, the shorter the stopping distance. I thought they were joking...
DaDisser
Someone didn't graduate lol
VodkaReindeer
Maybe you forgot to specify that the wheels aren't locked?
eggmuffin
There is some truth to it, but as with all things, the real answer starts with "it depends".
TK421isAFK
Yeah, like it depends on whether you're driving a 1968 Mack or a 2015 Volvo tractor with ABS and oversize brakes.
BoltActionGearbox
Unloaded, a semi is extremely unbalanced and 8 out of its 10 wheels have basically no traction.
grimmnir
I currently drive truck. My experience is there's a sweet spot in between max loaded and empty for braking performance.
TheMrGUnit
IN THEORY, lighter will always be better, but it requires a level of brake control that is godlike. Some more weight makes that much easier.
VodkaReindeer
Can't a computer do that brake control for you?
Zamm005
The day human ignorance will stop surprising you will be the day after you die. Source - Life
SierraSykes2
Inertia. Doesn't. Work! Like! That! ... Dumbfucks!
Reorder
Empty trailers tend to bounce when stopping hard
IFoldlyGo
It works like this -
PonyMadness
It's actually true to an extent. An empty trailer has a higher chance of skidding and jackknifing than a loaded trailer.
liftmoar
I was about to say this. The brakes work better under load, or at least that's what I recall from drum breaks.
TK421isAFK
The trailer still won't pass the tractor.
PonyMadness
The ass end most certainly will pass the tractor but it rarely disconnects like in GTA. the kingpin is stronger than most people think
gakio12
It is true, the heavier the load, the shorter the stopping distance. The tires are at 100 psi or more to support max weight, 1/2
gakio12
The smaller the contact patch on the ground, which means skidding. Sliding friction is less than rolling = less breaking power.
gakio12
Smaller contact patch at less than max weight
gakio12
Which is why you see so many truck skid marks in places where traffic jams are frequent or before a traffic light, underloaded trucks.
gakio12
Source, experienced truck driver and engineering major.
TheMrGUnit
This sounds like an opportunity for improvement. Independent ABS on the trailer could maximize friction forces. But adds cost to the trailer
PonyMadness
We did tests using a loaded trailer and an empty one when I was in CDL school because nobody believed it either
Louielou
I don't understand why they wouldn't believe it. It's pretty logical. Hopefully they passed the knowledge to non believers.
relicen
They think because more weight on the wheels, it should stop faster. But that's not how inertia works.
Reorder
The empty trailers have a nasty habit of bouncing on their tires in a hard braking event. Pushes the entire truck.
TheLavabenderGuy
Bigger = heavier = slower. Number of people think a truck is inherently slow... on a highway, just because you can go faster.
maelstromverbae
I-n-e-r-t-i-a, it's why your loaded rig is the juggernaut, bitch!
davidthemonkey
also why you should give bikes more room in front of you cause they can stop A LOT quicker
chopper35
i give em 200 feet of space. no one has gone in front of me yet when they see the bike, except other bikes.
hyperkatt
Tell that to the idiot who switched into my lane years back a couple feet in front of me. I couldn't see his stupid fucking tire.