13354 pts ยท May 12, 2012
Yeah, saying "we won't ban trans kids, they just have to pretend to be cis kids" is really not the win this headline makes it out to be.
Our voter turnout is consistently ~60-70% but I agree with the rest.
Fatphobia is probably one of the most ubiquitous discriminatory views around right now; I don't think we should downplay the difficulty that is present in moving through society as a fat person. I also agree that there are tons of people who find people like this attractive. It's just a really complicated Thing.
The voting machines aren't networked; that's the first and most powerful line of security. It means you have to have physical access to the machine, which severely limits the scale of the potential damage you can do.
This is one of those situations where if this was a credible story, we would *definitely* know about it, because a credible accusation of election fraud would be unbelievably profitable for news outlets. It would spike readership through the roof and there would be endless followup stories. It would be a true gold mine. Even Russia and China would be happy to watch that chaos. But election fraud at this scale just isn't really possible in the US, our system is too decentralized.
A person who read their report and knows basic statistics. For an extremely basic example of counterevidence, polling from several independent groups showed the same supposedly anomalous trends that are being held up as fraud evidence. If votes were changed, they would different from the pre-election polling, and they don't. As another, almost every district in the whole country moved to the right compared to 2020, not just the swing districts. This is not complicated stuff.
Because of the decentralized way the US counts votes it's basically impossible to pull off this type of fraud at a scale that could make a difference. You'd need to hack into tens of thousands of voting machines, each of them one at a time, all in the span of just a few days. If you want to expand that to the whole world, that's millions upon millions. It's not possible.
For the first time since data started being collected, every single major democracy in the entire world had an election where the incumbent party lost. This was a worldwide backlash against the perceived failures of governments to protect people against Covid and inflation. It's immensely frustrating. But muddying the waters with conspiracy theories like this just makes things worse.
The people putting out this stuff have no idea what they're talking about regarding the statistics. They make basic mistakes in every step along the way and leave out really easy-to-find counterevidence. They say the data is different in swing districts, but it's not. It's pretty uniform all across the country and even all across the world.The reality is much worse than a stolen election. The reality is that we lost a fair election. And if we don't face that we're going to lose more.
Plus while Murdoch does own a lot of media outlets, it's far from "most". There are hundreds, thousands of papers out there. You really think The New Republic wouldn't cover this? Al Jazeera? The Guardian? Huffington Post? They want to, they just can't, because it's complete bullshit.As a general rule, the answer to "why isn't anyone talking about this?" is usually either a) because there's nothing there, or b) they are, actually, and you just don't see it.
Okay, well I did read it and it's really bad. But even if I hadn't read it, a verifiable claim that the 2024 election was stolen, for the first time in the history of the United States, would be an absolute gold mine for news outlets. It would generate massive revenues for news media because *everyone* would talk about it and there would be endless followup stories available for years. It's exactly the kind of thing they would want to cover.
Unless you were queer
The reason you don't see big news outlets talking about that is because the Election Truth Alliance people had some truly terrible statistical analysis. There were no statistical anomalies, only bad analysis.
Anyone still working at OpenAI has already decided where their line is for immorality.
Hugs. Everything is both very hard and very stupid. And every social problem, eventually, traces back to the patriarchy.
From a rhetoric point of view, I am not sure they even quite realize trans men exist. The "threat" here is the same as it is with other queer people: for a patriarchal society, the roll of women is to serve the needs of men, in particular sex and procreation. Trans women cannot have babies and also are incapable of what these people see as sex, so trans women represent a level of autonomy can't take away the way they're used to.
The only thing he's ever cared about is building a profile for a future presidential run
aaaa this is my pet peeve: That's not what's happening. What happened is that the traffic slowed/stopped right at the initial incident and the traffic was too dense to smooth out; the inflection point can remain for many hours, it basically doesn't go away until there aren't enough cars to sustain a backup. People aren't slowing down for the accident. They're slowing down for the person in front of them.
What's actually happening is that they assume hormone studies are all about gender transitions, but that also misses the point---$8m to study hormone treatments for gender transition would be a *good thing*. It's not sufficient to point out that they weren't spending money on the trans community; we also *should* spend that money. $8m spent to help 2.5 million people is a steal.
I was thinking of the one in April 2023 but honestly there are plenty to choose from. This is like the tenth explosion or something.
iirc they took away the permit last time too, and gave it back a few months later?
... except, you know, now that it's in the states you can't get an abortion in 19 states and in many of those places trying to help someone seeking an abortion is a felony so no, I'm gonna say eliminating federal protections for abortion rights was a Bad Thing
Eastern Washington is more MAGA than almost anywhere in the South.
You know... for all of the difficulty reckoning with the overwhelming damage American Imperialism has perpetrated throughout the world, I am glad to be reminded that we also done things like this. Of course, we're stopping now, so there's that.
They don't know what a 500kz radio is?
People hear the most tiny thing and become flabbergasted that no one seems to be paying attention instead of considering for a moment that there are people who know more about it than they do. This stuff has been looked at by thousands of people. There are no statistical anomalies. No voting machine has ever been shown to have been hacked during an actual election, and you would need to hack thousands or even tens of thousands.
If there was anything at all to it, all the major newspapers would be picking it up. That kind of story would be fantastic for them, all the clicks and views and controversies and opportunities for followup pieces. But there isn't anything to it because the analysis that was used to come to this conclusion is just ridiculously superficial.
Absolutely begging people to consider the most basic levels of statistical analysis on any of this. There are no statistical outliers here. These counties had the same trends as all the other counties. They had the same trends shown in the polls. They had the same trends as every other developed country in the world.The reality is much worse. We lost. And every moment we spend denying that is a moment that could have been spent actually looking at what we need to be doing differently.
Yeah, I looked into the Election Truth Alliance a few weeks ago when this came up and their statistical analysis is just ridiculously poor. There are lots of good reasons why the trends they post make sense. 2024 is the only year on record in which no incumbent party in the entire developed world won a major election. This was a worldwide anti-establishment shift because of the double blow of Covid and worldwide inflation.
Trump gained vote share all across America, not just in a few select counties; that's why the states he won got called relatively early. He also had a very similar election result as he did in polls. If this theory was true, you'd expect to see a different trend in those counties than in the rest of the country.I'm sorry. The election wasn't stolen, not this time. It's worse than that. We lost.
Yeah, saying "we won't ban trans kids, they just have to pretend to be cis kids" is really not the win this headline makes it out to be.
Our voter turnout is consistently ~60-70% but I agree with the rest.
Fatphobia is probably one of the most ubiquitous discriminatory views around right now; I don't think we should downplay the difficulty that is present in moving through society as a fat person. I also agree that there are tons of people who find people like this attractive. It's just a really complicated Thing.
The voting machines aren't networked; that's the first and most powerful line of security. It means you have to have physical access to the machine, which severely limits the scale of the potential damage you can do.
This is one of those situations where if this was a credible story, we would *definitely* know about it, because a credible accusation of election fraud would be unbelievably profitable for news outlets. It would spike readership through the roof and there would be endless followup stories. It would be a true gold mine. Even Russia and China would be happy to watch that chaos. But election fraud at this scale just isn't really possible in the US, our system is too decentralized.
A person who read their report and knows basic statistics. For an extremely basic example of counterevidence, polling from several independent groups showed the same supposedly anomalous trends that are being held up as fraud evidence. If votes were changed, they would different from the pre-election polling, and they don't. As another, almost every district in the whole country moved to the right compared to 2020, not just the swing districts. This is not complicated stuff.
Because of the decentralized way the US counts votes it's basically impossible to pull off this type of fraud at a scale that could make a difference. You'd need to hack into tens of thousands of voting machines, each of them one at a time, all in the span of just a few days. If you want to expand that to the whole world, that's millions upon millions. It's not possible.
For the first time since data started being collected, every single major democracy in the entire world had an election where the incumbent party lost. This was a worldwide backlash against the perceived failures of governments to protect people against Covid and inflation. It's immensely frustrating. But muddying the waters with conspiracy theories like this just makes things worse.
The people putting out this stuff have no idea what they're talking about regarding the statistics. They make basic mistakes in every step along the way and leave out really easy-to-find counterevidence. They say the data is different in swing districts, but it's not. It's pretty uniform all across the country and even all across the world.
The reality is much worse than a stolen election. The reality is that we lost a fair election. And if we don't face that we're going to lose more.
Plus while Murdoch does own a lot of media outlets, it's far from "most". There are hundreds, thousands of papers out there. You really think The New Republic wouldn't cover this? Al Jazeera? The Guardian? Huffington Post? They want to, they just can't, because it's complete bullshit.
As a general rule, the answer to "why isn't anyone talking about this?" is usually either a) because there's nothing there, or b) they are, actually, and you just don't see it.
Okay, well I did read it and it's really bad. But even if I hadn't read it, a verifiable claim that the 2024 election was stolen, for the first time in the history of the United States, would be an absolute gold mine for news outlets. It would generate massive revenues for news media because *everyone* would talk about it and there would be endless followup stories available for years. It's exactly the kind of thing they would want to cover.
Unless you were queer
The reason you don't see big news outlets talking about that is because the Election Truth Alliance people had some truly terrible statistical analysis. There were no statistical anomalies, only bad analysis.
Anyone still working at OpenAI has already decided where their line is for immorality.
Hugs. Everything is both very hard and very stupid. And every social problem, eventually, traces back to the patriarchy.
From a rhetoric point of view, I am not sure they even quite realize trans men exist. The "threat" here is the same as it is with other queer people: for a patriarchal society, the roll of women is to serve the needs of men, in particular sex and procreation. Trans women cannot have babies and also are incapable of what these people see as sex, so trans women represent a level of autonomy can't take away the way they're used to.
The only thing he's ever cared about is building a profile for a future presidential run
aaaa this is my pet peeve: That's not what's happening. What happened is that the traffic slowed/stopped right at the initial incident and the traffic was too dense to smooth out; the inflection point can remain for many hours, it basically doesn't go away until there aren't enough cars to sustain a backup. People aren't slowing down for the accident. They're slowing down for the person in front of them.
What's actually happening is that they assume hormone studies are all about gender transitions, but that also misses the point---$8m to study hormone treatments for gender transition would be a *good thing*. It's not sufficient to point out that they weren't spending money on the trans community; we also *should* spend that money. $8m spent to help 2.5 million people is a steal.
I was thinking of the one in April 2023 but honestly there are plenty to choose from. This is like the tenth explosion or something.
iirc they took away the permit last time too, and gave it back a few months later?
... except, you know, now that it's in the states you can't get an abortion in 19 states and in many of those places trying to help someone seeking an abortion is a felony so no, I'm gonna say eliminating federal protections for abortion rights was a Bad Thing
Eastern Washington is more MAGA than almost anywhere in the South.
You know... for all of the difficulty reckoning with the overwhelming damage American Imperialism has perpetrated throughout the world, I am glad to be reminded that we also done things like this. Of course, we're stopping now, so there's that.
They don't know what a 500kz radio is?
People hear the most tiny thing and become flabbergasted that no one seems to be paying attention instead of considering for a moment that there are people who know more about it than they do. This stuff has been looked at by thousands of people. There are no statistical anomalies. No voting machine has ever been shown to have been hacked during an actual election, and you would need to hack thousands or even tens of thousands.
If there was anything at all to it, all the major newspapers would be picking it up. That kind of story would be fantastic for them, all the clicks and views and controversies and opportunities for followup pieces. But there isn't anything to it because the analysis that was used to come to this conclusion is just ridiculously superficial.
Absolutely begging people to consider the most basic levels of statistical analysis on any of this. There are no statistical outliers here. These counties had the same trends as all the other counties. They had the same trends shown in the polls. They had the same trends as every other developed country in the world.
The reality is much worse. We lost. And every moment we spend denying that is a moment that could have been spent actually looking at what we need to be doing differently.
Yeah, I looked into the Election Truth Alliance a few weeks ago when this came up and their statistical analysis is just ridiculously poor. There are lots of good reasons why the trends they post make sense. 2024 is the only year on record in which no incumbent party in the entire developed world won a major election. This was a worldwide anti-establishment shift because of the double blow of Covid and worldwide inflation.
Trump gained vote share all across America, not just in a few select counties; that's why the states he won got called relatively early. He also had a very similar election result as he did in polls. If this theory was true, you'd expect to see a different trend in those counties than in the rest of the country.
I'm sorry. The election wasn't stolen, not this time. It's worse than that. We lost.