711 pts ยท November 8, 2013
Snark has convinced noone ever.
I know the EU is bad, but calling them nazis is a bit much.
Asking for Venezuela...
And again - because the hostility keeps coming back in this thread - I'm not defending anything. I'm just trying to understand it rationally
If I got a certain phrase wrong, thanks for pointing it out. But the larger point I was making still stands.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I">ZwsWM-pc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJXZwsWM-pc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuVMJmC0V98 - two examples from page 1-2 of youtube search
Are you honestly saying you are not seeing a lot of rhetoric from the left that could easily be construed as anti-white?
Could have sworn I'd heard that in plenty more places, but fine. But I think you're missing the point. That's one example.
Wouldn't that put you on the defensive? I don't like it - but I don't think its strange.
"it's a good thing that people won't be white anymore" (paraphrasing).
You are white, and in the media, on television and from the politicians you keep hearing, "white toxicity",
Not sure I agree. Let's imagine you feel you are persecuted for being white. Never mind if this is actually true - let's pretend that it is.
perspectives on why the situation has arisen. Let's at least agree not to be deliberately hostile to each other.
I don't want to fight you, I have no reason to. We're obviously on pretty much the same side of the issue, we just have different
person calling you a bigot on Youtube. I get we don't see eye to eye on this, but I don't think this attitude is helping.
If you have the perception that the leaders of your country are "out to get you" or whatever, that's clearly different from some anonymous
Also, I think dismissing comments made by the vice president as "internet name calling" is pretty silly.
instead of anarchism or communism. If it was all hatred of the system, there would be no "need" specifically for white supremacist ideology
happening. While I'm sure you are right the loss of jobs aren't helping, I think there is a reason they are turning to nazism
Based on what they themselves are saying, that is not the whole truth. Remember "You will not replace us"? It's clear what they think is
People generally don't resort to extreme measures unless they feel they have been put in an extreme situation.
"oh, they're just dumb racists." I don't think that's enough of an explanation.
it, you'd have to find another reason why, all of a sudden, nazism is back in vogue. And I don't think you can, without falling back on
I march with noone. I'm not even defending them - why would I? Just gave my perspective on why I think this is happening. If you "don't buy"
If you don't, you will be granting the alt-right victim status, providing them with a legitimate grievance. This, you do no want.
It's an explanation. Hold them accountable if you can. Just make sure to do the same to antifa and their ilk.
antagonism towards white people... And in response to one of your comments - none of this is an "excuse" for nazis.
The only way to prevent a United States of Weimar America is for the people on the left to stop their
Everytime some activist blames "toxic whiteness", or whatever, that's another person who's converted to the alt-right.
some would feel threatened? What was it that the nazis in Charlottesville were chanting? "You will not replace us."
Snark has convinced noone ever.
I know the EU is bad, but calling them nazis is a bit much.
Asking for Venezuela...
And again - because the hostility keeps coming back in this thread - I'm not defending anything. I'm just trying to understand it rationally
If I got a certain phrase wrong, thanks for pointing it out. But the larger point I was making still stands.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I">ZwsWM-pc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJXZwsWM-pc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuVMJmC0V98 - two examples from page 1-2 of youtube search
Are you honestly saying you are not seeing a lot of rhetoric from the left that could easily be construed as anti-white?
Could have sworn I'd heard that in plenty more places, but fine. But I think you're missing the point. That's one example.
Wouldn't that put you on the defensive? I don't like it - but I don't think its strange.
"it's a good thing that people won't be white anymore" (paraphrasing).
You are white, and in the media, on television and from the politicians you keep hearing, "white toxicity",
Not sure I agree. Let's imagine you feel you are persecuted for being white. Never mind if this is actually true - let's pretend that it is.
perspectives on why the situation has arisen. Let's at least agree not to be deliberately hostile to each other.
I don't want to fight you, I have no reason to. We're obviously on pretty much the same side of the issue, we just have different
person calling you a bigot on Youtube. I get we don't see eye to eye on this, but I don't think this attitude is helping.
If you have the perception that the leaders of your country are "out to get you" or whatever, that's clearly different from some anonymous
Also, I think dismissing comments made by the vice president as "internet name calling" is pretty silly.
instead of anarchism or communism. If it was all hatred of the system, there would be no "need" specifically for white supremacist ideology
happening. While I'm sure you are right the loss of jobs aren't helping, I think there is a reason they are turning to nazism
Based on what they themselves are saying, that is not the whole truth. Remember "You will not replace us"? It's clear what they think is
People generally don't resort to extreme measures unless they feel they have been put in an extreme situation.
"oh, they're just dumb racists." I don't think that's enough of an explanation.
it, you'd have to find another reason why, all of a sudden, nazism is back in vogue. And I don't think you can, without falling back on
I march with noone. I'm not even defending them - why would I? Just gave my perspective on why I think this is happening. If you "don't buy"
If you don't, you will be granting the alt-right victim status, providing them with a legitimate grievance. This, you do no want.
It's an explanation. Hold them accountable if you can. Just make sure to do the same to antifa and their ilk.
antagonism towards white people... And in response to one of your comments - none of this is an "excuse" for nazis.
The only way to prevent a United States of Weimar America is for the people on the left to stop their
Everytime some activist blames "toxic whiteness", or whatever, that's another person who's converted to the alt-right.
some would feel threatened? What was it that the nazis in Charlottesville were chanting? "You will not replace us."