3283 pts ยท August 15, 2016
How much money do you think small businesses have to throw around for high wages? Small business owners aren't normally billionaires.
It isn't just minimum wage work that ends up being out paced by the extra benefits that were given out, even $17/hr jobs made less.
I make over the $15 people are demanding, and when it was +$600 I'd have made more being laid off too. I'd be making slightly more at +$300.
about states, it's about the way majority rules works. Where the majority makes the rules.
over 70% of the population? How about gay and trans rights when they collectively make up less than 2% of the country? The saying isn't
I'm not talking about the states. I'm saying do you think the Civil Rights act would have passed under true democracy when whites were
Proportionate representation was never the intention of the college, just representation.
Imagine what it could feel like if it was true majority rules.
There's an old saying. True democracy is 2 wolves and a sheep deciding what's for dinner. People think there is oppression in the US, now?
And CA also has 17.333x more electoral votes. It's not equal to 68x the votes, but let's continue.
It's happened in the past. A few times. It's always controversial when it happens. But it's still better overall than just the popular vote.
That's the point of the senate. So that each state, regardless of population, has the same amount of votes.
By that logic no one gets to choose a president I don't want. Great thinking. So anyone voted in I don't like isn't my president; right?
to be the whole country who doesn't live within 50 miles of a city to not count.
the ones to decide. IT's bad enough that pretty much Hawaii and Alaska already don't bother to vote because of the time dif, you want that
metropolitan areas have cast their vote, it's over half the country, right there. No need for anyone else to vote, as the cities will be
And shifting to a full on popular vote can disenfranchise millions of citizens across the entire country. When the top whatever
The only place in the federal government where representation is equal is the Senate, where every state has 2 senators.
They DON'T have less representation, you compete ignoramus. They have MORE representation in the House, and they get MORE electoral votes.
California does produce food, yes. But all the places that grow food in CA don't vote for democrats. It's the cities that vote democrat.
Let's see those economic powerhouses survive when the farming states decide to not send them food.
That's why we are a representative republic, not a true democracy.
about the same as farmers know about how things work in a city. You don't want one or the other deciding everything for the other.
Sorry, I read something wrong, not quite those two alone. But the point still stands, what do city dwellers know about farming? probably
Elections all on their own. Since those areas consist of over half the population of the US. Is that what you REALLY want? LA and NYC?
If we go by your disband the electoral college" route, you realize the greater metropolitan areas of just NYC and LA will be able to decide
No. Are you by saying that Wyoming voters get 3 votes to every CA voter's 1? Because that simply isn't how it works.
That's not actually how the EC works. California has 52 EC votes to Wyoming's 3. The hipsters still get a bigger say than a small state.
I used to think like you. Then I understood why in a representative republic, like the USA, the Electoral College is important.
Most states have done it this way. Only a few split their votes by district. Maybe retake some civics.
How much money do you think small businesses have to throw around for high wages? Small business owners aren't normally billionaires.
It isn't just minimum wage work that ends up being out paced by the extra benefits that were given out, even $17/hr jobs made less.
I make over the $15 people are demanding, and when it was +$600 I'd have made more being laid off too. I'd be making slightly more at +$300.
about states, it's about the way majority rules works. Where the majority makes the rules.
over 70% of the population? How about gay and trans rights when they collectively make up less than 2% of the country? The saying isn't
I'm not talking about the states. I'm saying do you think the Civil Rights act would have passed under true democracy when whites were
Proportionate representation was never the intention of the college, just representation.
Imagine what it could feel like if it was true majority rules.
There's an old saying. True democracy is 2 wolves and a sheep deciding what's for dinner. People think there is oppression in the US, now?
And CA also has 17.333x more electoral votes. It's not equal to 68x the votes, but let's continue.
It's happened in the past. A few times. It's always controversial when it happens. But it's still better overall than just the popular vote.
That's the point of the senate. So that each state, regardless of population, has the same amount of votes.
By that logic no one gets to choose a president I don't want. Great thinking. So anyone voted in I don't like isn't my president; right?
to be the whole country who doesn't live within 50 miles of a city to not count.
the ones to decide. IT's bad enough that pretty much Hawaii and Alaska already don't bother to vote because of the time dif, you want that
metropolitan areas have cast their vote, it's over half the country, right there. No need for anyone else to vote, as the cities will be
And shifting to a full on popular vote can disenfranchise millions of citizens across the entire country. When the top whatever
The only place in the federal government where representation is equal is the Senate, where every state has 2 senators.
They DON'T have less representation, you compete ignoramus. They have MORE representation in the House, and they get MORE electoral votes.
California does produce food, yes. But all the places that grow food in CA don't vote for democrats. It's the cities that vote democrat.
Let's see those economic powerhouses survive when the farming states decide to not send them food.
That's why we are a representative republic, not a true democracy.
about the same as farmers know about how things work in a city. You don't want one or the other deciding everything for the other.
Sorry, I read something wrong, not quite those two alone. But the point still stands, what do city dwellers know about farming? probably
Elections all on their own. Since those areas consist of over half the population of the US. Is that what you REALLY want? LA and NYC?
If we go by your disband the electoral college" route, you realize the greater metropolitan areas of just NYC and LA will be able to decide
No. Are you by saying that Wyoming voters get 3 votes to every CA voter's 1? Because that simply isn't how it works.
That's not actually how the EC works. California has 52 EC votes to Wyoming's 3. The hipsters still get a bigger say than a small state.
I used to think like you. Then I understood why in a representative republic, like the USA, the Electoral College is important.
Most states have done it this way. Only a few split their votes by district. Maybe retake some civics.