Mine is a lot steeper but goes up to the road with a long flat at both the top and the bottom. A little salt and momentum and no 4 wheel drive required. Almost didn't buy it because I'm used to flat places. No regrets!
When I was a courier for an IT company delivering printed reports, I had to drive up slopes like that at some office buildings. I would have to stop half way up to buzz for security to remotely open the gate to let me in. When it was icy I would drive up, stop to hit the buzzer, and slide down the hill. Then I would go back up, reach for the buzzer, and slide down the hill. The trick was being fast enough to push the button before I went down again. And hope no one was behind me.
I'm from Jersey, but I grew up on a tall, STEEP hill. Which was partially paved in CONCRETE instead of asphalt. Trust me, THIS IS A GOOD MINDSET TO HAVE
That's literally how I look at potential houses that I'll probably never own. One of the main things is how much of a bitch will the drive way be in the winter. It needs to be short and at a decent incline.
I thought so too, and when I bought my house I even told myself no house is worth that driveway. But it was charming and the location and neighborhood was great so I fooled myself into thinking I can just salt it no problem. Lol
My grandparents had a cottage with a driveway that was so steep you could touch the driveway in front of you as you walked up it without bending over. We didn't even try driving on it in the winter. Just sat down and scooched or took a sled down past the house and walked back up to the house on the much smaller hill.
The house was at the bottom. If you parked down there you just floored it and watched for the fence line because you couldn't see the road. If you weren't sure your car was strong enough to make it back up you parked at the top of the hill and walked it.
When you ask the architect for a "concept" drawing having no intention of ever paying for a full design. And the architect has heard of you and decides to stitch you up.
I saw one that was this bad but going the other way, a huge dip down to the house, so good luck getting out. We were looking to rent it, but my friend's stock '07 Focus bottomed out trying to go down the driveway. They aren't exactly low cars.
Nobody's talking about the nightmare that mowing the lawn would be. Granted, you'd obviously have to do it side to side, but it would still be awkward as fuck.
This has been floating around the internet for at least decade, likely longer. It's exaggerated but sort of real -- 5000 block of New Bridge Road in Fayetteville, AK Streetview: https://www.google.com/maps/@36.0877...2!8i6656?hl=en
Oh for sure, I turned down a lake front property because it was on a steep hill and wasn't heated...I'd be trapped there half of winter if I did that. Hard pass.
So company I used to work for got their brand spanking new terminal in Nashville one summer. And then that ice storm in 2021 that shut down the south rolled through. Turns out building a semi truck terminal at the top of a rather steep hill really only works if you *never* get ice. Place was closed for a week because the trucks would try to get there, get halfway through the turn, and then break traction and slide backwards into the road.
So when it came to snow removal for my domicile we did shovels the first year, second year I got quotes (since all my neighbours have a service) and when I saw their prices I bought a snowblower, value was at about 3 years of a contracted service. I'm going on 9 years living there now and other than gasoline, stabilizer, an oil change, and spark plugs I haven't done anything else for it.
For me it was the snowblower maintenance, frustrations getting it started every year, and yet still having to go out and fuckin do it that caused me to get a service. My time is valuable to me, saving money by spending time and effort is a losing proposition.
If that makes you happier than go for it, I don't mind tinkering when I can do it on my schedule. I'm going to be starting my snowblower this weekend to insure it runs and if it doesn't I got time to figure it out before I need it. If I need it and it doesn't work then I get stressed out.
Thought my 2010 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon could tackle almost anything thrown at it. Until I hit a patch of black ice at a four way stop sign in Kaiserslautern, Germany. Hit the brakes not knowing about the black ice and sailed right on through the intersection, got lucky I didn’t hit anything. But the local Germans watching my screw up all gave that disappointing look of “stupid American” which I completely deserved.
Q. Once I mentioned to my American colleague that I’m going to have my winter tires put on and he said he never does that, it a not really a thing. He lives in New York. That place sometimes gets 30 inches of snow. And he could afford it, that’s for sure. Do you really not do the winter tire thing?
There are certain areas in the northern part of the states that do require mud/snow tires or you are required to have snow chains in case of inclement weather. But no, people don’t swap out summer tires for winter tires like they do in Germany for instance.
I assume he doesn't drive until the plows clear the roads, perhaps? Here in Minnesota we have pretty competent road services for snow removal, but I can't imagine not doing it.
What even a plow can’t remove is the slush. They remove a lot of snow, but some will remain, melt during the day, and freeze overnight. That’s the worst. Even if they use salt too. I’ve had a couple of crazy experiences.
How dies that help? The plow leaves a thin layer still. And if snow is there, the rubber in the summer tires will be hard as rock, not helping with traction.
youd need it to be far enough in that the plows wouldn't smash up your cars with the icy sludge they huck into your property as they pass. that shit is deep and tough to remove
The retaining wall could end up being the retaining wall for a raingarden. Throw down permeable pavers and you got yourself a gorgeous and over functional storm water management system and driveway all in one. State cost share available for those
Great idea ! You could even recess a french drain in an L-shape along the retaining wall then down the edge of the driveway to storm drain. Make the wall 6' high and you could go 3 spaces back from the street with a low curb to catch snow plough pack from the road too.
claudettecolbert23
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🥰 OHIO HERE!
sillygoosebraindisease
Also true in Utah when you're looking at all those rich people houses up on the mountains.
Patrone26
Some family members have a driveway like this but it's heated.
mechanerd
I moved from Iowa to Washington State 30 years ago. I still think that way.
hoopyhoop
Those two days a year when we get snow would be annoying if I had to go out.
Chewi42
Mine is a lot steeper but goes up to the road with a long flat at both the top and the bottom. A little salt and momentum and no 4 wheel drive required. Almost didn't buy it because I'm used to flat places. No regrets!
BarderBetterFasterStronger
The winter? You mean 70 in December? It'll be fine
swedeonamoose
I picture myself trying to shovel that frucking path and constantly sliding down and crying in frustration.
subrosaflorens
When I was a courier for an IT company delivering printed reports, I had to drive up slopes like that at some office buildings. I would have to stop half way up to buzz for security to remotely open the gate to let me in. When it was icy I would drive up, stop to hit the buzzer, and slide down the hill. Then I would go back up, reach for the buzzer, and slide down the hill. The trick was being fast enough to push the button before I went down again. And hope no one was behind me.
ChazzK
I'm from Jersey, but I grew up on a tall, STEEP hill. Which was partially paved in CONCRETE instead of asphalt. Trust me, THIS IS A GOOD MINDSET TO HAVE
FuckTammy
As someone in New England, same.
painstream
Took all of one winter visit to my aunt's place in upstate New York to know the same.
badgermans
That's literally how I look at potential houses that I'll probably never own. One of the main things is how much of a bitch will the drive way be in the winter. It needs to be short and at a decent incline.
Iblamemyparentstoo
I thought so too, and when I bought my house I even told myself no house is worth that driveway. But it was charming and the location and neighborhood was great so I fooled myself into thinking I can just salt it no problem. Lol
jamesjheinrich
Had several neighbors in Michigan who had to park at the bottom and climb up on foot every day.
Shmoaker
Kehy
This creature was not designed for such terrain. There is a movement penalty
Magjee
I hate that feeling, the slow slide down an icy patch, then the safety walk on the grass
MrPappagiorgioFromYuma
BobWeAdaBabyEetsAboy
Ope. That’s gotta be a bitch to mow.
codevii
In TX we just think "God I'd hate to mow that lawn!"
BosunMark
sledding heaven!
Fargus57
Agreed! I saw that driveway and thought "toboggan run!!!!"
thesunisgettingreallow
My grandparents had a cottage with a driveway that was so steep you could touch the driveway in front of you as you walked up it without bending over. We didn't even try driving on it in the winter. Just sat down and scooched or took a sled down past the house and walked back up to the house on the much smaller hill.
Hammerwell
How did you get a car up there? A winch at the back of the garage?
thesunisgettingreallow
The house was at the bottom. If you parked down there you just floored it and watched for the fence line because you couldn't see the road. If you weren't sure your car was strong enough to make it back up you parked at the top of the hill and walked it.
McFluffums
When we were looking for a house, we asked for the smallest driveway and yard, and the realtor looked at us like we had 3 heads.
LordKitchenersValet
Winch life: Every day I winch down to the street, and every day I winch back up to the garage.
deltree5
That A frame house tho
Widgetboy
Yep. One of the first things that comes to mind.
SweetRelishTadpole
Mowing would be a bitch
lifeisadadjoke
My last house had a driveway sloped like that. Much shorter, but in southern Ontario. It was a luge run on icy days.
wingweaver415
As a Texan I didnt get it.
LCDC
You didn’t get power in the last winter storm either
amp99
PickleRiiiiiiiiiiiiick
Ope, there goes my ankle.
JohnnyLawlessEsq
I feel like the building code has to address this kind of thing.
oldscrotumthewrinkledretainer
When you ask the architect for a "concept" drawing having no intention of ever paying for a full design. And the architect has heard of you and decides to stitch you up.
miked854
MaterialisticWorm
I have a townhouse just like this and it's nearly that bad. I'm in the very far north. Kinda scared for my first winter!
wolfspirit21
quincythomasthedisappointing
Good luck everybody
UberleJoe
There are houses like this in Rhode Island. It connects to a busy main road too. Fucking crazy.
DontTazeMeBrah
Sisyphus enters chat
sadurdaynight
house for sale: cheap. Ignore the oil slick on driveway. Just got my oil pan fixed for the 10th time.
tiptoeingthru
Photoshop? Please tell me this is photoshop. I cannot imagine the daily hell this would be. It's photoshop, gotta be.
11Weasel11
I swear when I did motorcycle pick up and delivery, I picked up a Honda gold wing at this exact spot!
dohcohv
I saw one that was this bad but going the other way, a huge dip down to the house, so good luck getting out. We were looking to rent it, but my friend's stock '07 Focus bottomed out trying to go down the driveway. They aren't exactly low cars.
Iblamemyparentstoo
Nope, my driveway is close but there are some in my neighborhood that are like that and one that's even worse
HEARTS0FSPACE
Nobody's talking about the nightmare that mowing the lawn would be. Granted, you'd obviously have to do it side to side, but it would still be awkward as fuck.
pullingsixty
Perhaps grass is not the best landscaping option in this case.
LarvaLamp
The Wallingford neighborhood in Seattle has several driveways pretty close to this.
getthismanabeer
Most cars wouldn't even manage that without banging their fascias off. Has to be fake/edited.
Edit:
Jesus it's real. City vs contractor spat w/r/t the sidewalk placement. They tore them out and improved it. https://www.linkedin.com/posts/david-johnson-cad-tech_design-construction-activity-7015511639579918336-sqdh
Iblamemyparentstoo
This is my driveway and although in the picture it doesn't look nearly as steep its pretty damn close
Iblamemyparentstoo
PickleRiiiiiiiiiiiiick
Weeeeeeeeeeeee - black ice.
ephemeron0
This has been floating around the internet for at least decade, likely longer. It's exaggerated but sort of real -- 5000 block of New Bridge Road in Fayetteville, AK
Streetview: https://www.google.com/maps/@36.0877...2!8i6656?hl=en
darthfester
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/steep-driveway-photos/
Magjee
Judging by the road and the other red dirt hill in the back it appears this area was under construction, they haven't laid the grass yet
SkinnerTBD
"That's gotta be a bitch in the winter"
Imapseudonym
Nah you get a snow blower or a plow attachment for your riding mower.
spiritussancto
100% parking on the street, taking a sled down the hill, building snow stairs to get up
HannibalLectersCatMittens
Awe. Thank you. I'm not from the Midwest so I didn't know what they were talking about.
HandoB4Javert
Winter is never heated.
siknoz
Oh for sure, I turned down a lake front property because it was on a steep hill and wasn't heated...I'd be trapped there half of winter if I did that. Hard pass.
hickorybakedbeans
That was my first thought. "Good luck shoveling that"
NLOVNI
Just getting home. Leaving will be easy.
SlightChungus
All the time
IHaveGreatKittenRecipes
So company I used to work for got their brand spanking new terminal in Nashville one summer. And then that ice storm in 2021 that shut down the south rolled through. Turns out building a semi truck terminal at the top of a rather steep hill really only works if you *never* get ice. Place was closed for a week because the trucks would try to get there, get halfway through the turn, and then break traction and slide backwards into the road.
thisnameisntfunny
This is also a very Northeastern thing to say about those driveways.
MithridateEupator
We even say in the PNW - even though our winters are pretty tame. We have a lot more hills though, that might be why.
BusterWinkmeyer
I'm willing to bet that work will be contracted out
Kennleth
So when it came to snow removal for my domicile we did shovels the first year, second year I got quotes (since all my neighbours have a service) and when I saw their prices I bought a snowblower, value was at about 3 years of a contracted service. I'm going on 9 years living there now and other than gasoline, stabilizer, an oil change, and spark plugs I haven't done anything else for it.
ILogInToUpvote
For me it was the snowblower maintenance, frustrations getting it started every year, and yet still having to go out and fuckin do it that caused me to get a service. My time is valuable to me, saving money by spending time and effort is a losing proposition.
Kennleth
If that makes you happier than go for it, I don't mind tinkering when I can do it on my schedule. I'm going to be starting my snowblower this weekend to insure it runs and if it doesn't I got time to figure it out before I need it. If I need it and it doesn't work then I get stressed out.
TheGreatAtomsk
maybe it's heated.
Atomic2
"That's gotta be a bitch to pay for"
Rockafella83
Maybe it’s « bitch heated» like you have an arguments so bad with everyone that comes through and somehow magic happen
MightyZephyr
wurth
"Imagine how much running room the dog will have" "That'll be a bitch"
ClickCheeseCat
I have said all of the above in the PNW too
Seandarkside
Thought my 2010 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon could tackle almost anything thrown at it. Until I hit a patch of black ice at a four way stop sign in Kaiserslautern, Germany. Hit the brakes not knowing about the black ice and sailed right on through the intersection, got lucky I didn’t hit anything. But the local Germans watching my screw up all gave that disappointing look of “stupid American” which I completely deserved.
CaldariBob
Don't feel bad - if they drive, they've likely done it themselves. If you get winter, at some point you're going to slide. ABS systems ftw.
LarvaLamp
I did that once. Spun completely around through the intersection and continued on my way on the other side. Busy intersection, too!
Hammerwell
I just tried to imagine a four-way stop in Germany. I'm relatively sure it was something else. But who knows. How did you know it was one?
Seandarkside
They use STOP signs in English.
Hammerwell
These are in use here, too. But up until now, I've never seen them on all four roads.
DontTazeMeBrah
skill issue /s
mshthn
Q. Once I mentioned to my American colleague that I’m going to have my winter tires put on and he said he never does that, it a not really a thing. He lives in New York. That place sometimes gets 30 inches of snow. And he could afford it, that’s for sure. Do you really not do the winter tire thing?
AnotherSemanticArgument
Americans use 3 season peak rated tires and pretend it's not double the stopping distance
Seandarkside
There are certain areas in the northern part of the states that do require mud/snow tires or you are required to have snow chains in case of inclement weather. But no, people don’t swap out summer tires for winter tires like they do in Germany for instance.
EntropyReign
I assume he doesn't drive until the plows clear the roads, perhaps? Here in Minnesota we have pretty competent road services for snow removal, but I can't imagine not doing it.
mshthn
What even a plow can’t remove is the slush. They remove a lot of snow, but some will remain, melt during the day, and freeze overnight. That’s the worst. Even if they use salt too. I’ve had a couple of crazy experiences.
Hammerwell
How dies that help? The plow leaves a thin layer still. And if snow is there, the rubber in the summer tires will be hard as rock, not helping with traction.
Bystandr
Being this lot has the room, Id excavate at the foot of the driveway and a swath of lawn and make 2 level parking spots at the road.
lurkertron5000
These people don't look like they walk up stairs to get to their garage.
Just let it be and tell work you're snowed in. If you don't have your own company
AlexVanPutten
Then you gotta build stairs, and worry about the mound of snow from the plows.
IsTodayThursday
youd need it to be far enough in that the plows wouldn't smash up your cars with the icy sludge they huck into your property as they pass. that shit is deep and tough to remove
Bystandr
Yeah good point
Bystandr
Just need a decent retaining wall and you could make a nice drive apron parking spot.
ozawaonline
The retaining wall could end up being the retaining wall for a raingarden. Throw down permeable pavers and you got yourself a gorgeous and over functional storm water management system and driveway all in one. State cost share available for those
Bystandr
Great idea ! You could even recess a french drain in an L-shape along the retaining wall then down the edge of the driveway to storm drain. Make the wall 6' high and you could go 3 spaces back from the street with a low curb to catch snow plough pack from the road too.
Frostycopper
We don't do that here
elecvette
Ego over function?
ecstaticpuppy
Probably HOA over function…
Frostycopper
Probably more a desire to garage vehicles since they have a garage.
elecvette
Seems to set up a lot of ice removal to pull out. 4×4 and flat. No?
Frostycopper
Salt
LariCheltsy
DCNR
It's only stupid if it doesn't work.
OhIfIMust
Darklinkinfinite
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ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
DrKonrad
kojenk
SledgeGTR
kojenk
Fitting video music is a lost art
PickleRiiiiiiiiiiiiick
I miss when youtube was 75% AMVs.
ATastyCorpsesicle
But people reacting to "unfitting" music like they've looked into the Ark of the Covenant is comedy gold.
justfiguredoutimc4azyanddumbb
The world used to have many "standards" cranky old people remember and miss.
LariCheltsy