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TheElliotPage
& inbred & stupid &...
robsquared
Being a conservative means thinking time doesn't pass. So by definition they're wrong.
whitefoxkei
Wow, they were right, maybe political correctness HAS gone too far. Well, I'm not gonna use the PC term anymore. Primitive and obsolete it is.
ChristopherHallett
It really just means "deathly scared of change"
PirateRubberDuck
Conservatives want to preserve and bring back the good old days. Unfortunately the good old days that they want back never actually existed. So they just break things and help the greedy stay in power.
BobLyon
A liberal radio talk show host has, over some years, traveled to Northern Europe and will do his show there. He tries to get conservatives from other countries so he can interview them, pushing them to see if they would like to follow the policies that conservatives here in the US are all about; most of them do not want to change their healthcare insurance situation, nor do they want schools and universities to charge outrageous tuitions. Most of them are just plain racist.
KalypsoKirin
The original conservatives were absolute monarchy simps throwing a tantrum about the rise of democracy. Believe me, if they get the chance to crown a king, every conservative will be on board with it.
StellaMatutina
There's people driving the train of progress, and there's people in the caboose. Either way you cannot be neutral on a moving train. Then we've got these dumb fucks that jumped OFF the goddamn train and screaming about how far left the train has moved
CandidGamera
Conservatism per se is about the present and upholding the status quo - i.e. it's nothing but selfishness and egocentrism. It frequently dips into, but is distinct from reactionary thought, which focuses on restoring an imaginary past. (The term doesn't refer to "reacting", but the prefix re- here means "again and different" like in "redo", it's about undoing any action that has advanced society since the mythological "golden age")
BronyDanza
Manson Family Values
Crowlands
The death and suffering caused by the prevention of scientific and social progress caused by Conservatives is truly immeasurable.
Even if we take away the fact that many conservatives are also bigotted child abusing sex criminals, it's STILL the greatest evil in human history.
lalalalsblablabal
You can be conservative for some political views and be very left for others. It’s not black and white.
CoarseAndSalty
There is no air between Conservatives and Fascist in America. Standing idly by while your party talks about rounding people up in camps or attacking protesters is what Nazis do.
BabyWitchErika
Real conservatism has a point. It's to not fall for every new fad. Not every new idea is better. But current conservatism is fear and hate.
Raikupath
The world and peolpe evolve, always wanting everything to stay the way it is (Spoiler Alert: the world has been shitty for quite a while now because capitalism is awful bullshit at best) is nothing but stupid.
HolyCringeLordBatman
Ah, no true scottsman. Real conservatism as defined by whom, exactly?
Subsound
Sounds like conservatism is weak
sadurdaynight
The idea of conservatism was that you didn't want to change based on fads. But, times have changed for generations, but they want to hold on to what worked for a generation that grew up in an unprecedented age of prosperity for a country after WWII, and act like those same rules should apply to everyone else now, even while companies and rich folks undercut the "American Dream" the conservatives hold on to. And they know it, but they want to still bring back the racism and such from then.
IamTheTeapot
That was always the ideal. Even today. But it is an ideal that was never lived up to. Politically, the Conservative Ideal® has always been used as an excuse, and a mask to hide behind.
mutingisforcowardsandsycophants
It's the politics of fear.
Change is scary, reject with hostility. The future should be like the past because the past is familiar. People that don't think like me are untrustworthy. Dismantling existing power structures and hierarchies, no matter how corrupt, is unacceptable; I need them to determine my place in the world. Diversity makes me uncomfortable.
masteryoplait
It’s also just a bad formula for old age. I’m old AF and I get stuff wrong but I try to learn. Just keeping your mindset flexible makes me enjoy all sorts of stuff from Imgur to new music. Plus it’s healthy for your brain.
AltruisticDefenestrator
It's the inability to think forward, so you are only left with climbing on someone else's shoulders, parroting the homework of others, and romanticizing past (percieved) greatness. That's why they are all shit at art and think uncolored roman statues are the peak of civilization, cry about returning to tradition and do the 40iq "hard times create strong men" etc.
RecurringNightmare
if we look at basic problem solving there are three possibilities for any situation: its shit now, but was once working well, so lets go back to that, thats regressive; its kinda mediocre now but never was better, so lets try something new to hopefully improve it, thats progressive; its working fine now, better dont break it, leave it alone and focus on other stuff, thats conservative...for conservative to be your dominant worldview you gotta live a pretty comfortable life, aka only rich people>
RecurringNightmare
> with money and power and luxury who arent missing anything in their lifes are truely conservative...normal people love change in the hope for improvements, everyone is like "this is shit, someones gotta fix this" all the time, despite our lives being way better than 100 or 200 years ago, and surely better than living in caves...the strife for progess is the defining trait of our species...<<<
ButtBot9900
I like to call them regressives because they don't seem to want to conserve anything, just drag us all backwards.
nutbynature
They want to conserve the status quo and they need kicking out of our lives
Isgrimnur
I prefer oppresives.
AvidGamerShkunk
i also do this.
Ivain
You too huh? I came here to commend basically this but worded slightly different. "Conservatism" implies they want to conserve the status quo, not roll back history to half a century or longer ago.
randomguy365
joe6paques
They’d like to conserve patriarchy, which is threatened by urban development.
jayman0123
that's because it's the most accurate term we've coined for it to date.
SecretAgentSuperBooger
ThomasThundersword
My fav is “Politics is like driving: D is for going forward, R is for going backwards.”
UnidentifiedPrisoner
They politically move to the right, without changing lanes, forcing everyone around them to make no progress
whitefoxkei
One more lane. One more lane. One more lane. One more lane....
SortaSordid
Conservatism (not the neo-fascists that are kicking around today) is the futile attempt to stop the future from happening. It's a flawed memory of an idyllic childhood that glosses over all the serious challenges of those days (polio anyone?). This is the real version 'tilting at windmills'.
thoushaltnotpass
Depends, saving nature is supposed to be conservative (= avoiding losing something we have now), but guess what's conservatives' stance on nature conservation.
quzar
The difference is that conservatism, as a political ideology, is about conserving the practices of humans. Nature conservation pushes against existing ideology that human may intrude/reshape nature as they see fit.
NairouTryyshokk
Yes and no. You are correct that that is what it has become, but it is supposed to be the voice of moderation, looking at change and going "if it ain't broke don't fix it" everyone has experienced some change at some point that has made things worse, conservative was supposed to be a tool to stop that. Now it's liberal or die, which is no longer a choice. I'm liberal as fuck, but we need to have that choice back.
SortaSordid
Part of that problem is that conservative parties in western nations have moved significantly further to the right in recent decades whilst labelling the centrist parties as the 'radical left'. To a Canadian (and also many Europeans) the Democrats sit pretty much centre-right on the political spectrum, the Republican have swung further even right than they were back in Nixon's time.
NoNameFred
Chesterton's Fence. "Do you know why this thing exists? Why was this law created? What was it intended to do? Did it do it? Is that something we still want? **Are there any potential side-effects of changing it?**" (See also: Scotland having to change their 'progressive new gender laws' within 2 weeks of bringing them in… because they were badly written and had plenty of loopholes. Which they had been WARNED about, but they dismissed any & all criticism as "just conservative transphobia")
NairouTryyshokk
Personally, understanding something is the first step towards fixing something. You can complain day and night about nazis, and rightfully wanting to punch their faces in, but without understand where the nazi came from and what happened to give rise to them, and why people might vote for them, you will never convince them towards more sensible paths.
TimTheEnchanter01
Conservatism has always been about conserving wealth and power dynamics. It embraces the existence of class structures. And seeks to enforce those structures to maintain a system that benefits the people who have wealth and power.
This would obviously be unpopular if it weren’t branded in such a way to make it appealing to more people.
NairouTryyshokk
It embraces those because those currently exist. Of course they don't want things to change, because things are good for them. When the system in place hurts more people than it benefits, in theory, it should be voted against. It is a reflection of how well off everyone is. If everyone is living in paradise, they won't want change.
Shaddak
Conservatism is a political philosophy that, by nature, looks backwards.
masteryoplait
Imagine being so vile that you want to set back the clock bc you miss your male white privilege so much as of the rest of us don’t deserve equality. I worry that young white males are so quick to embrace this horseshit then wonder why women or others don’t like them.
Shaddak
That's the entirety of their ideaology. Things used to be better for "us".
beeeeeeerkaaaaa
No need to worry. They've embraced the horseshit and are curious why women don't like woman hating men. White men had privilege and they see equality as oppression.
mercyPandaRunner
Capital C Conservatism is an 18th century ideology formed to justify aristocracy against republican arguments in a way that works without using "of gods grace", because the enlightenment made that line of argument moot.
It is a lower case c conservative ideology, which is colloquially used as an umbrella for all traditionalist, reactionary or change-skeptical mentalities/camps.
Classical Conservatism, which is the basis for modern western Conservatism, is founded on the idea that humans>
mercyPandaRunner
are vile and wild beasts by nature and that the "natural state" of humanity would be "war, all against all". The hierarchies and customs of society are seen as the dam holding back the flood of barbaric nature and the channels canalizing our evil and nasty drives into being useful. Conservatives essentially believe, that if we erode these institutions, by allowing gay marriage, that civilization collapses and we all turn into Mad Max Fury Road. They are perpetually afraid we are chizzeling away>
mercyPandaRunner
at the ancient pillars that carry the house of civilization. That all the moral rules and all the laws are what keep us from beasts. That inequality and steep hierarchies are ensuring the Better rule over the Lesser that need their guidance.
One reason moderate conservatives are frequently blind to fascism is because their ideology often prevents them from understanding it. For many Conservatives, the Third Reich or Maoist China is simply the result of such a dreaded civilizational collapse >
mercyPandaRunner
and Man reverting to his "natural state" of "war, all against all". They don't recognize fascist ideology by its traits. They don't understand fascism is, basically, when you escalate the conservative worldview of fear of the human beastly nature and the society as its cage and turn it into worship of that supposed human beastly nature and societies structures as a way to enable it.
From "Hierarchies and inequality are a neccessary to keep nature at bay" to "Hierarchies and inequality are >
mercyPandaRunner
the desirable and ideal natural state of humans".
It's a split hair that makes all the difference between being reluctant or opposed to gay marriage and hunting down the gays one by one. And Conservatives rarely see the difference or realize when they cross that line.