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https://www.bostonglobe.com/2022/09/09/metro/middle-school-boys-thought-their-teacher-was-creep-so-they-tracked-how-he-treated-girls/?event=event25
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Delerium1973
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https://www.bostonglobe.com/2022/09/09/metro/middle-school-boys-thought-their-teacher-was-creep-so-they-tracked-how-he-treated-girls/?event=event25
MachinimaMachinima
Former Spanish teacher at my old highschool was indicted with romancing a student. She's also my dentist's wife, small town. ?
tesseract4d2
Good job not being bystanders
isetprettygirlsonfire
Oof
tillie350
I'd be so proud of my son if he took it upon himself to record everything like this. I expect he wouldn't have to though once he told me.
AdamGenesis
Didn't Jim Jordan do the same thing? Ignored sexual abuse with students.
casbott
These boys are the sort of people who should become police officers, but the coach/teacher is the kind that applies.
leodavinci1
What could possibly go wrong?
unpasteurizedorganicraw
Teacher gets schooled by kids. Story at 9.
Commentsaboutyourusername
Darn right *sips from bucket of cow's milk*
0NUDGE0
Missed opportunity to call them the "pedo files"
mahnlygreatwood
Most schools don't have a backup teacher willing to be paid nothing to deal with guns, parents, etc. What surprising they get ignored?
butthurtnevergetsbetter
It's sad that nobody believed them.
PajamaStripes
When we started warning other girls to be careful around a creepy teacher, faculty told us to stop spreading rumors instead of investigating
PrincessWasabi
My English teacher was arrested for pedofilia. Honestly these sorts of stories are infuriating bc I wonder how many more kids are in danger
achilles2112
These young people are true heroes
SageOfDepth
More chance for the boys to make their own creepy and awkward advances. /s
LeoSalt
Taking out the competition!
lordofthedice
At least it'd be age appropriate.
carrotsonfire
Kids at my school did the same thing to one of the science teachers, claiming he was gay and a pedo. He was neither, but he left anyway.
carrotsonfire
The only thing he was guilty of was wearing a slightly smarter jacket to class, and the kids used the system against him to force him out.
KilroyLichking
man it be nice to see a story without a paywall
TheflyPrince
Let's hear it for the boys.
RadioFloyd
“Shut up children, we’re busy trying to get the Bible in your classrooms. You don’t know what’s important!”
monybony
I went to a middle/high school full of pedophiles like that guy. That article hit home. Why do they so often get away with it for so long?
equatorfishhat
Fucking legends
camvani
how can i read the article without having to pay. or is this bait to subscribe to the paper?
Delerium1973
Press the tiny x in the corner
camvani
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TheMadOnion
We had a staff member at our high school all the students said stuff and all the faculty would always tell us not the gossip/
TheMadOnion
So basically for years the school ignored very reasonable accusations because of him just hanging around girls constantly, link /
TheMadOnion
https://www.news-journalonline.com/story/news/2012/10/17/police-seabreeze-employee-and-student-had-sex-mostly-at-the-school/30599035007/
taramasalata
Why is it creepy fuckers who want to be teachers, I mean look at David Walliams.
eromitlab
School administrators and authorities would just ignore complaints and act like everything's fine? Yeah, that tracks.
twabby16
Had the creepiest middle school math teacher. Several complaints from students and an accusation that he groped a child. They did nothing
JimPrescott
Sadly, it wasn't even their database that triggered it. A family who's daughter he stalked threatened legal action after being ignored.
Ruhig
Fucking good. Sad that it took that much though.
CheeseGreaterGood
Some girls made up some bullshit about a science teacher jerking off. Investigation was launched, and he was gone a long time. ½
CheeseGreaterGood
Apparently nothing came of it and he was innocent. But I always felt bad for him and wished I knew who started it all. 2/2
CheeseGreaterGood
This was junior high, by the way. Mid to late 90s. 3/2
iplaytrombone
I’ve both been a middle schooler and taught MS. It’s a crapshoot on these things. Documentation lends legitimacy, but sometimes MS kids 1/
iplaytrombone
are just being shitty because they don’t like the teacher. 2/2
CheeseGreaterGood
Yeah, and the results can be terrible.
ChockRock
1/ I’m 41. When I was in 7th grade at a small private ‘Christian’ school, all the girls in my class told me and a few other friends about
ChockRock
2/ how the math teacher made them uncomfortable and would grab them in the hallway, etc.. We went to the school admin and were threatened
ChockRock
3/ with expulsion, and told to be quiet. Many years later (2008) teacher and former student of teacher got busted for sleeping with
ChockRock
Students. https://www.oregonlive.com/oregonianextra/2008/02/rehling.html I told the school about it in 1993.
TK421isAFK
That's when I kick the former principal's door down and throw a copy of the newspaper at him. Maybe force him to read it out loud.
IlCastradore
Yeah uhu, sure sure
ArdentSlacker
Why? He knew. He made it clear who he sided with. Conservatives always side with the abuser.
jamstj11
I hope the kids were right because they’ve essential destroyed the teacher’s career. Why anyone would want to be a teacher these days…
Delerium1973
How could you defend? You act this way around girls?
TaviRus
Read the article. Investigation started because a girls parents were filing a restrain order. The boys document is supplemental evidence
kelsomae
Did you read the article? He held practices with middle school girls in his basement and conducted naked “fat tests” on them. He stalked one
nat300Lord
Besides this report, there were a lot of other kids who came forward in previous years. He also got a TRO against a girl.
romagnolimike27
You mean the girl got it against him?
PolitiCat
If there is suspicious behavior he needs to be investigated following a protocol keeping all parties safe. They failed to do so. It is not
PolitiCat
the fault of the children that reported him. Blaming the ones that report stuff is why such problems still exist. Of course, if they made
PolitiCat
things up they need to be punished, but this cannot be judged without a proper investigation.
procrastinatortwo
The most sensible comment, right here. Thanks!
SeigeRhino
Did you read the article?
ApricotX
I for one didn’t, because I’m not going to pay for it.
SeigeRhino
It has a weird pay wall. I closed the site and reopened. -> no paywall
justadude41123
The teachers career is likely the root cause of the inaction. However if a lot of kids are coming in feeling uncomfortable it warrants smthn
procrastinatortwo
It warrants an investigation, not more, at that point.
CrazyDanEvilCat
What is wrong with you?
GabbyJayYay
What, noone believes in due process anymore?
thedudeman519
He hasn't been arrested seems , he is on leave pending investigation. Due process is intact.
Ipostrandomfactsaboutmyself
The point is valid. If they're ganging up on him and he's innocent, his life is still ruined.
YouAreTheInsultMaster
Sure, seems likely. All those kids made it up along with the girl that started the legal action. Get real people.
Ipostrandomfactsaboutmyself
Not at all. But there seems to be gaps in the news story. I'm not saying he's innocent.
YouAreTheInsultMaster
Next you will be lamenting about the poor misunderstood priests.
procrastinatingagain
Should be an investigation into the people that ignored it.
FritoParadise
If they did shit like that jim Jordan wouldn't still be in office. The system is jacked up in so many ways
areyouelonmusk
Jim Jordan motherfuckers. Every one deserves to suffer.
VitaminBeaPositive
But don't republicans have enough on their mind right now without ANOTHER investigation going?
ShiftingPattern
Jim Jordan will get right on leading an inquiry into that...
thetinyhousepanther
As much as I wish this would never happen. There was a reason I never took my backpack off in my algebra class in HS. Always ready to flee.
ThrowAwayAcct0000
Had a creepy old teacher in HS who kept the room freezing all the time so girls' nipples would poke out. We all started bringing sweaters.
ThrowAwayAcct0000
This was in Florida, where you almost never even need sweaters.
zeros000
The accusations were made by lawyer Timothy J. Conlon, who is representing the girl’s family and is also representing former athletes at 1/
zeros000
North Kingstown High School who have accused former coach Aaron Thomas of conducting naked “fat tests” on teenage athletes. 2/
zeros000
Say what the actual f.... is wrong with people. Wtf naked "fat tests"... 3/3
Bawdiepie
There is no damning reason in the article for the investigation except the kids didn't like teacher, kids aren't renowned for veracity.
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Bawdiepie
Yep.They are children and don't understand the consequences of such serious comments. Lots of men now avoid or quit working with kids
Splittmark
Says the teacher bragged for 30 years
Bawdiepie
Says the pupils said that. Branding him a paedo on hearsay is not evidence. Pupils say stuff like that about teachers they don't like.
circlebreaker
"They were investigated by the school board and found to have been in compliance with school board policy." /s
MyNameIsPer
Jesus Fucking Christ, that's sick...
SheSaidToThineOwnMemeBeTrue
I didn't read the article so I was shocked until I saw the '/s' indicating sarcasm. Not that it wouldn't happen… sadly.
ObviousObservationMan
ACAB
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ObviousObservationMan
Nope. Don’t mean that.
PolitiCat
Then the school board needs to be investigated.
faeros
Given the last 1/2 century of Republicans pushing to run local government and school boards, pedophilia is probably encouraged.
Bawdiepie
It's usually republicans stoking fears of paedophillia and encoraging teachers to be crucified with liitle to no evidence
Tifandi
Remember the P is for Projection
iCurse
Adults ignoring complaints is like 80% of school
dudeinjapan
So… another day that ends in “y”? /sarcasm. I’m an old fart now and can confirm that this is NOT new.
Etereo
Kids complaining is 90%
SteelKnight
To be fair, have you met kids? 80% of what they say can be safely ignored >:(
SteelKnight
This is a joke, I actually think young adults deserve a bit more credit for their own thoughts than they get
K1d1caru5
Extreme complaints or all complaints? Kids like to complain. It’s kind of their thing. Assaults and sexual misconduct shouldn’t be ignored
K1d1caru5
But if you think hazing and bullying go away once school is over I don’t think they do. They just come at you in different way. No 1 cares
K1d1caru5
Except maybe parents and family for the lucky ones.
PectorialMuscles
So you're staying one bad thing excuses another. Great job, you missed the entire point of "making a better society."
FettuccineAlfred
What a pointless question. The severity of the complaint has already been established, teacher is a suspected pedophile. Pretty extreme.
Inmate45
As a teacher, it's really fucking hard. You pass a complaint to student services or the deputy, they say 'ehh, that kid always complains' 1
Inmate45
2. The student ends up telling you more. Then they start fights/start skipping/trash bathrooms... The admin are like 'gahh, why is this 2
Inmate45
3 kid suddenly doing this? You point out the comments they made. Admin is like, why didn't you tell us? Too late. They're suspended.
Mercenarity
In bsns at least it helps to keep records of everything so when someone is like "why didn't you tell us," you can show the 57 times you did.
Inmate45
Yeah, we have a system called SEQTA where we put all that stuff. Sometimes that helps; sometimes they disregard it.
MedicSailor
Sounds like you as a teacher need to DOCUMENT when you pass this type of thing on so they can't say you didn't tell them later.
Inmate45
Yeah, if you'd read like a couple comments down, I specified the system we use, and pointed out these often get dismissed anyway.
MedicSailor
But that's just it, you not following up and pushing it further from there with proof in hand shows you are part of the problem.
MedicSailor
You can't just shrug unhappily and say, "Well I tried", because that's not good enough, and that's not how real change happens.
MedicSailor
If you have proof you submitted it, they can't just say oh we didn't know, that's when you go to the board with proof they did.
MedicSailor
I don't mean to insult you, but at some point you can't pass on the burden to them and wipe your hands clean whether they follow up or not.
MedicSailor
I read all of your comments, what I see is your frustration because you take the first step in bureaucracy, but they don't follow up
Shpielers
As someone who was bullied, ayep.
shadow351
Until you threaten to shoot the bully, then you get a day off.
ProppaGanda
Nah, when you're bullied then the teacher basically join in on that and openly blame you.
TheBaconSurfingCanuck
Amen. Mental health took a huge dive during my formative years due to school life, and only now - 10-20 years later am I starting to heal.
TheBaconSurfingCanuck
If teachers took my pleas for help seriously - like one student making a club explicitly to "kick my ass" - I'd probably be mostly okay.
thedudeman519
As someone who was bullied until I stood up for myself, then subsequently expelled for it. Seconded.
secretdpp
How dare you harm those football players. They might've gotten hurt feelings you utter .monster
DeepAnalPenetration
Those football players got scholarships while the bullied lerson got expelled, that would be very american
Shpielers
Sadly, there are people who think exactly like that
SCHRAMB0
Right up until you standup and deck the bully in the face. Then suddenly YOURE the asshole. Not the bully that made your life hell.
iCurse
Lmao this so much. I came home bruised and bleeding many times with no recourse, but the one time I fought back I got punished
ElbowdeepinElmo
Ye, the whole "there's NO reason to hit someone" bullshit...shouldn't be your first or even second idea but at some point it's justifiable
Aaronb1138
Because jr high and high school students are not to be trusted sources. I recall specifically how everyone treated the orchestra teacher at
Aaronb1138
my jr high (well "middle school) as a creep (including his students) because of the bulge from his hernia truss. And that is before we get
Aaronb1138
into the ephemeral rumors and day to day bullshit kids spew from their imaginations and hormone swings.
ElbowdeepinElmo
Sure, kids are pretty unreliable narrators but in the end, they don't always lie and there's a LOT of bad shit happening in schools. Still
ElbowdeepinElmo
have to listen and look into it if you wanna avoid people getting away with it.
Bawdiepie
True and I agree, but it's been hysteria for years which is a real problem in getting men into children's lives in teaching, youth clubs etc
MCEscherWasADouchebag
To be honest if you look at the screenshot with the article, I can imagine someone having looked into it and going "this it?", all the >
MCEscherWasADouchebag
comments on that screenshot are pretty innocuous. Like, one of the documented creepy moments is "Hi ". <
ElbowdeepinElmo
Was speaking in general terms, not about this case in particular...but yeah, those screenshots are hardly damning