It's called being poor. I used to wear jackets and or a couple layers of clothes and put up blankets to divide up large space. Then I could run a small space heater for a while.
I refuse to give the gas company 150 dollar deposit. So I have a small space heater I carry wherever I am at in the house. DOn't need to use it yet, but will next month probabl
Easy answer to that one. When the dog starts to shiver. Of course, she's a wah-wah, so you have to be able to distinguish cold shivers from the trembles of rage.
I wish I had the choice on turning on the heat or not, but unfortunately the whole complex runs off one system that the company controls. And I live in Toronto where everyone is a big baby about the cold so they crank up that heat while I am sweltering.
I will often crack open the window so I don't wake up in a puddle of sweat. It is not helped that the unit is tiny (236 sqft) so it easily builds up heat, especially if I'm using the stove or oven.
I tried to argue to my retired parents to “stay up later, and wake up later” so that you are waking after the day has heated up a bit and you aren’t paying to heat a cold house…. They weren’t having it….
In 2022, I didn't need my extra bedroom heater until march. We had one weekend of sun and they turned downed the heat in my apartment. My kitchen was 15C at one point. I'm in Sweden.
My wife and I had a logburner installed last year or the year before.had no idea how cold out living room was or how we suffered through winters without it!I'm not one for the heat really,but burning the soles of your feet infront of the fire is something that just hits different.
hahaha,yeah we have one of those already.its not a proper flat top,its recessed into the chimney stack,but its got enough room to put one,maybe two on the bit that sticks out.our house is old and the room is big,so we cant really tell if it makes a huge difference.pretty cool idea though,would definitely help in a better insulated and less drafty house!
Am Canadian, grew up in a drafty old house with a father whose mission was to hold off turning on the heat as long as possible. I normally tough it out into November, but got diagnosed with some serious shit this year and figure I’ve got enough garbage going on. I can spoil myself and have to house be…not warm, but not chilly in the mornings. Stay comfy and feel better!
As a poor man in the UK, jumpers and blankets exist for reasons. I can usually go until xmas without any heating on. Although, today it hit fricking 17C outside so no need for any effort to keep warm!
And ten million UK pensioners, a lot of them on low incomes, have had the £300 payment that was paid to help them pay for heating in the winter taken away by this government. Several years ago, when they were in opposition, they demanded it NOT be done and claimed 4000 pensioners would die if it was done.
The joy of being in an apartment in the PNW is often you can go the entire winter without turning on the heat. The heat radiating through the thin walls between the apartments on either side, plus the units above and below, keeps us at a steady 68-70 without turning on the heat.
A very little known secret: older walk-ups in NYC use steam heat and there is no way to track individual use. So, the utility bill is split between all of the tenants. This means that ConEd relies on tenants self identifying by updating their address on their ConEd utility account. However, if you never open ConEd account to begin with they have no way to know you owe them money.
I went five years without paying a utility bill, and I have a friend who has been going for 17 years.
Because the bill is paid by the registered tenants, there is no way for ConEd to say you owe anything - not unless they are going to refund all of the other tenants.
It's VERY unethical, but so are Manhattan real estate prices.
same for me in denver. i live on the top floor of a 7 story, 1910 built, building. even when the temps are negative, i'm yet to turn on a radiator due to the amazing radiant heating from the units below me.
I own a two floor condo, the top two floors of a 100+ year old house. The heat is broken upstairs, but we mostly live downstairs and have giant steam radiators there, so enough of that heat gets up to keep the upstairs in the 60s most of the time, and we can use space heaters if we'll be upstairs for an extended period.
yeah, the radiators are steam and built into the walls. the dude below me must roast like a goose during the winter. my wood floors are warm to the touch.
Oh, I have a basement apartment in a Rowhouse; got three pipes for the upstairs heat running through my apt. November it's on. Windows are closed though.
In the new england states it sucks. Building made of brick from the 1850s. Even if our heat is off. It gets up 86-87 in here sometimes because our building is so well insulated.
I've lived in my south-facing high-rise apartment in GA for 2 winters now without turning on the heat. But you really don't want to see my summer time power bill, lol.
lived in south dakato during a winter near an airforce base my neighbors did not like the cold. it was -20F and i had to open a window cause all the neighbors cranked their heat and i was sweating
PDX here, so true! My caregiving service wanted to make sure they came to turn on heating, and I laughed and let them know my apartment neighbors handle it just fine.
First time for me in an apartment. Only 650sq ft and I am really looking forward to the temps dropping. Going to turn that thermostat off! Let's go tiny electric bill!
It's very efficient! You turn your heaters off, open ALL the windows, so you get enough Zug, you air out for max 20min and then close everything up and heat the place through. German buildings are solid and very well isolated, to well sometimes. So they try to regularly air out the moist air from inside. And it's nicer then the recycled air from an AC in my opinion.
I grew up in Seattle in the 80s and 90s, and we almost never turned on the heat all winter, and never had air conditioning at all. I live in Philly now, and I still badly miss that old PNW weather.
Wood burning fireplace was my life growing up outside Seattle. Not of my choosing, but 55°F is not an ok indoors temp
If you keep tropical anything you still need the heat. Tropical aquarium and houseplant keeping us big these days in the PNW. Between my aquariums and my computer struggling to play modern games, I'm set
SirWadeWilson
Solar Panels... I've already plugged in the space heaters, and it costs nothing.
CabooseDM
2018 was the last time i turned on the heating. if it gets cold i have a duvet and hot water bottle :)
UnitConversionBot
39°F ≈ 3.89 ° Celsius or 277 Kelvin
WalkGood
It's cold.
420supercoolusername69
@ButThisisntAboutMe
ButThisisntAboutMe
DidItForScience
It's called being poor. I used to wear jackets and or a couple layers of clothes and put up blankets to divide up large space. Then I could run a small space heater for a while.
nojustsayitdont
I live in south san diego by the ocean. No freezing going on here. Never run the air, never run the heat. Rent is a little high though.
Idonotbelievewehavecompany
I refuse to give the gas company 150 dollar deposit. So I have a small space heater I carry wherever I am at in the house. DOn't need to use it yet, but will next month probabl
WalkGood
My electric rates are waaaaay too expensive for electric heat.
ClarkKentfield
Well its still over 80 here in Vegas so nope not yet
DazzlingCockroach
I've been participating, but against my will... The landlords haven't turned on the heat in our building. They usually don't before november.
Goatfer
Hit 28F a few nights ago. It was great. Left the window fan running all night.
sloomoo
Easy answer to that one. When the dog starts to shiver. Of course, she's a wah-wah, so you have to be able to distinguish cold shivers from the trembles of rage.
solemnwar
I wish I had the choice on turning on the heat or not, but unfortunately the whole complex runs off one system that the company controls. And I live in Toronto where everyone is a big baby about the cold so they crank up that heat while I am sweltering.
teardropivyyearofthetiger
I live in western Canada and my suite is above the building boiler. I literally turn on the heat if it’s lower than -20C
solemnwar
I will often crack open the window so I don't wake up in a puddle of sweat. It is not helped that the unit is tiny (236 sqft) so it easily builds up heat, especially if I'm using the stove or oven.
Grecoair
You guys have heat?
sloomoo
You have a house?
MaintenanceGuyHere
Yeah, don't do that. Run it a few times before it gets crazy cold just to make sure it works before you absolutely need it
WalkGood
Good point.
My boiler also makes my domestic hot water (heat exchanger to 40 gal tank), so I dodn't have that worry.
MaintenanceGuyHere
Those are great setups. Boilers are the most solid form of heating. Get it serviced atleast every 5 years
WalkGood
Fuel is home heating oil, so every year gets a new spray nozzle.
nokers
No heat till snow on the ground
gimlismellyfoot2410
Word
CyberpunkEnthusisast
I made it to July!
CyberpunkEnthusisast
(I live in England -our summer ends in June)
Rogerwilco1974
November 1st is always my target.
MrHappySmiles
I tried to argue to my retired parents to “stay up later, and wake up later” so that you are waking after the day has heated up a bit and you aren’t paying to heat a cold house…. They weren’t having it….
IGotMyDreamJobProgrammingGames
I ain't torturing myself to save a few cents. Heat turns on as soon as I'm uncomfortably cold.
bitspacemusic
In 2022, I didn't need my extra bedroom heater until march. We had one weekend of sun and they turned downed the heat in my apartment. My kitchen was 15C at one point. I'm in Sweden.
We11thatwasC00L
Broke the 50 degree barrier inside this week, holding out for November unless there's a chance the pipes freeze
BigSkyJimbo
When I decided to turn on the heat, I noticed the thermostat said it was 59 F (15 C). So I guess that's my limit.
We11thatwasC00L
This is pretty much just a hubris thing, I'm curious what my limits are
somethingdark
My record can best be described as "fucking stupid":
We11thatwasC00L
Nice
downrightmike
HAHAHA, you mean turn off the AC right, still 100+ here
DaisyfromDownunder
Not here where it's springtime.
cuttysark
I made it to last night
jackandpepsi
Me too. Dropped into the 30s.
lurkyloos
Same. I wish my username was *crownandcoke*
Shouldhavethoughtthisthroughabitbetter
My wife and I had a logburner installed last year or the year before.had no idea how cold out living room was or how we suffered through winters without it!I'm not one for the heat really,but burning the soles of your feet infront of the fire is something that just hits different.
CarlBassett
If it is a log burner with a flat top get one of these fans. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Fireplace-Fireplaces-Electricity-Required-Efficient/dp/B0BD4XQ1V2 Powered solely by the heat which generates electricity that powers the fan, it circulates the heat around the room. It's not hugely powerful but makes a difference.
Shouldhavethoughtthisthroughabitbetter
hahaha,yeah we have one of those already.its not a proper flat top,its recessed into the chimney stack,but its got enough room to put one,maybe two on the bit that sticks out.our house is old and the room is big,so we cant really tell if it makes a huge difference.pretty cool idea though,would definitely help in a better insulated and less drafty house!
johnxbear
I caved immediately. Lost a ton of weight from illness. I can't do cold at all anymore. I got the heat and a pile of blankets and it's barely enough.
MatrimBloodyCauthon
You deserve warmth and health, friend.
Evern
Am Canadian, grew up in a drafty old house with a father whose mission was to hold off turning on the heat as long as possible. I normally tough it out into November, but got diagnosed with some serious shit this year and figure I’ve got enough garbage going on. I can spoil myself and have to house be…not warm, but not chilly in the mornings. Stay comfy and feel better!
johnxbear
You too. Hope things go well for you
acetothermus
Usually make it at least til the first week of December. Then again, I live in California.
FloatingOnACloudOfTitties
Southern Nevada & it’s still high 80’s, lol!
afatality
while i was in Indiana it was usually mid november, now im in texas its now mid december too
Valatros
Yeah... yeah. I'm here in texas and it's like "Freeze? We're still high 80's/low 90's..."
acetothermus
Today was the first day in months that we've been out of the 80's.
FloatingOnACloudOfTitties
Southern Nevada has entered the chat, lol!
swhertzberg
Yeah today was the coldest in forever here in CA but that’s because of red flag warning
Soberyn
I grew up in MN and now live in CA. I pretty much never need the heat on but my boyfriend gets cold easily so.... He's a CA boy. I like the cold.
acetothermus
If it never got cold again it would be too soon. I hate winter. Such a pointless season in my opinion.
kydn
As a poor man in the UK, jumpers and blankets exist for reasons. I can usually go until xmas without any heating on. Although, today it hit fricking 17C outside so no need for any effort to keep warm!
QotU
It was 17 in my SoCal town today and 20 in my house. And I wore an actual jacket, lol. But I’m totally fine when we hit 40.
ThanatosElNyx
Unseasonably warm this week!
CarlBassett
And ten million UK pensioners, a lot of them on low incomes, have had the £300 payment that was paid to help them pay for heating in the winter taken away by this government. Several years ago, when they were in opposition, they demanded it NOT be done and claimed 4000 pensioners would die if it was done.
icouldnotthinkofagoodusername
About 64F if anyones curious and lazy. (times 2 & add 30 gets you there roughly close enough)
icouldnotthinkofagoodusername
Meanwhile in Illinois, US it has been 43F waking up (about 6-7C)
ImSynnical
Same here in Canada with next week going to be 18c all week and sunny woohoo I like warms
burentsu
TransdimensionalSpaceUnicorn
The joy of being in an apartment in the PNW is often you can go the entire winter without turning on the heat. The heat radiating through the thin walls between the apartments on either side, plus the units above and below, keeps us at a steady 68-70 without turning on the heat.
GNious
Literally illegal where I live
steelundecided
Yep. Never turn mine on.
Calicious
A very little known secret: older walk-ups in NYC use steam heat and there is no way to track individual use. So, the utility bill is split between all of the tenants. This means that ConEd relies on tenants self identifying by updating their address on their ConEd utility account.
However, if you never open ConEd account to begin with they have no way to know you owe them money.
I went five years without paying a utility bill, and I have a friend who has been going for 17 years.
Calicious
Because the bill is paid by the registered tenants, there is no way for ConEd to say you owe anything - not unless they are going to refund all of the other tenants.
It's VERY unethical, but so are Manhattan real estate prices.
MagicTortoise
Fighting rampant capitalism is always ethical
justabitofpoo
same for me in denver. i live on the top floor of a 7 story, 1910 built, building. even when the temps are negative, i'm yet to turn on a radiator due to the amazing radiant heating from the units below me.
IAmTheBadW01f
I own a two floor condo, the top two floors of a 100+ year old house. The heat is broken upstairs, but we mostly live downstairs and have giant steam radiators there, so enough of that heat gets up to keep the upstairs in the 60s most of the time, and we can use space heaters if we'll be upstairs for an extended period.
justabitofpoo
yeah, the radiators are steam and built into the walls. the dude below me must roast like a goose during the winter. my wood floors are warm to the touch.
arfalottaroff
And low-grade colds, mold reactions, and pneumonia are the water we swim in! :]
judyblue
This will be my first winter without downstairs neighbors to heat my apartment for me.
MightyUrto
Warmed by your neighbor's fart gasses
CrowCaller
Weirdly enough, i have that in the upper Midwest. It's actually so hot that I often have to open windows when it's below freezing out.
astrangehop
Oh, I have a basement apartment in a Rowhouse; got three pipes for the upstairs heat running through my apt. November it's on. Windows are closed though.
starrs3
In the new england states it sucks. Building made of brick from the 1850s. Even if our heat is off. It gets up 86-87 in here sometimes because our building is so well insulated.
Xenarion
My room is kept warm with my PC and my body heat. I haven't turned the heating on for years, despite living in Canada.
jackpkmn
This is why my AC is still installed it can get way to hot with these old folks pouring heat in through the walls 😭
AllTheKitties
I've lived in my south-facing high-rise apartment in GA for 2 winters now without turning on the heat. But you really don't want to see my summer time power bill, lol.
SquirrelHaven
55th deg in my unit. I love it. Heaters set on low.
ChiashiZane
I have a window bedroom and I still have my AC on. I'm in Portland.
Comet260
Here in Oregon, Portland General Electric hit us with a SEVENTEEN PERCENT rate increase.
tizkit
lived in south dakato during a winter near an airforce base my neighbors did not like the cold. it was -20F and i had to open a window cause all the neighbors cranked their heat and i was sweating
Teas
PDX here, so true! My caregiving service wanted to make sure they came to turn on heating, and I laughed and let them know my apartment neighbors handle it just fine.
BullittGT
First time for me in an apartment. Only 650sq ft and I am really looking forward to the temps dropping. Going to turn that thermostat off! Let's go tiny electric bill!
LariCheltsy
And hello increased gas bill!
Calicious
Get some nice slippers, a fluffy robe, and some great blankets. You'll never want to turn the heat on
WalkGood
Many big city apartment buildings waste so much fuel on heating. It can get so hot inside that people open windows when it's freezing outside.
YouFartLikeaGirl
That's a pretty common practice in Germany. You have to Lüften so the Feuchtigkeit goes away... And well, me personally I don't like heat.
WalkGood
I would think Germany having a good reputation of efficiency, you would not be wasting heat energy.
YouFartLikeaGirl
It's very efficient! You turn your heaters off, open ALL the windows, so you get enough Zug, you air out for max 20min and then close everything up and heat the place through. German buildings are solid and very well isolated, to well sometimes. So they try to regularly air out the moist air from inside. And it's nicer then the recycled air from an AC in my opinion.
FlatPlutoSociety
I grew up in Seattle in the 80s and 90s, and we almost never turned on the heat all winter, and never had air conditioning at all. I live in Philly now, and I still badly miss that old PNW weather.
Kehy
Wood burning fireplace was my life growing up outside Seattle. Not of my choosing, but 55°F is not an ok indoors temp
If you keep tropical anything you still need the heat. Tropical aquarium and houseplant keeping us big these days in the PNW. Between my aquariums and my computer struggling to play modern games, I'm set