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If Russia thinks sanctions are economically trying now...
...wait until they get the bill for what they've done to Ukraine.
Mar 6, 2022 1:07 AM
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...wait until they get the bill for what they've done to Ukraine.
Strategicgnomer
Eh, don't send the bill, just use the money grabbed from the oligarchs. Fuck em.
LongJuan
Don't need no reparations if there's no world to come back to!
alexcoldt
No no... no no no... We're not Versailling Russia. Rebuilding Ukraine needs to be a world effort, including Russia.
TrilithonStone
Pretty sure they've stiffed Syria on what they owe there...
michaelfire
didn't we learn this before-WWII 20 years after harsh defeat in WWI; WWIII after harsh defeat of Cold War/1989 rather than Marshall Plan???
TCGView
That didn't work out well when we did it to Germany after WWI. We should look at other options.
MidlifecrisisDad
There is no coming back from infinite, Andy.
Idownvotegunnuts
Sure, they'll pay in Rubles; a truckload gets you a dozen eggs.
nsaspyingonuranus
And bring all the fucking Kremlin douche-bags to trial for Crimes against Humanity!
kevinstonewall13
I'm very worried Zelensky is the archduke Franz Ferninand from Austria in this telling of history.
AgentOrangeJuice
What an original idea that's never been tried before and hasn't led to additional wars.
tyrunn
America should definitely get into a conversation about reparations
taurondir
Ukraine REALLY needed to build a wall. Like, 20 KM high to stop even the planes.
TheShaffinator
yeah I don't want to reproduce the economic and politic environment that let hitler rise to power, putin is already bad enough
Sxualhrssmntpanda
You're right. Maybe we should leave the people alone and confiscate it from the oligarchs who supported and ran this monstrous government.
Phobos613
Best bet is change the leader. We traded a lot with an ass, how much better would everyone be if they were finally one of us?
dsnowball
If Russia loses this, Putin'll likely be deposed, hopefully we can rebuild Russia properly this time and not ignore it like we did
dsnowball
after the collapse of the USSR which lead to what we have here.
HumtyFuckty
We are already in this because Russia has been paying (in more than money) for the USSR's Cold War. He's already become Hitler
upsidedownyhead
I want to see EU investment pour into Ukraine after all this is over.
Taldur08
When you win, you need to win in a way that even your enemy can win. This is not that way. Source: WW 1
Biker222
Yes. See Cuban Missile Crisis. Kennedy knew he had to find a solution that allowed the Soviets to save face, and he did.
petrolhead1987
"Do you really expect them to pay?" - Austin Powers
Hortman68
The complete and total dismantling of all Russian nuclear weapons.
fatmanno1
How about billing china for the rona
MikeStinse
Can we also bill trump for intentionally preventing an early covid response too?
sadurdaynight
Best case outcome... Russian citizens coup, seize oligarch wealth, withdraw troops, and head over to Ukraine to help rebuild.
Magavyn
Gonna need a few buckets of cash to but the next loaf of bread next time around.
ThatDudeRich
Reparations only tend to happen when theres a decisive loser. I think the best outcome we could realistically hope for would be a withdrawal
OohReilly
Those sanctions are never being dropped, not until they agree to reparations
CoarseAndSalty
People are flying the economic collapse and authoritarian crackdown in Russia. I think we're about two weeks from Russia surrendering and
CoarseAndSalty
coming to the negotiation table for economic relief.
NKato
I concur. I hope Zelensky demands that Putin withdraw completely and returns Crimea.
VoxMortuis
Yea...Putin would never do that. He'd sooner kill the world. We'll be very lucky if he even agrees to withdraw.
TurdBurglar3000
I think the most realistic outcome with Putin on the helm is losing Crimea, Luhansk and Donetsk but keeping the rest.
Daxton
If Putin doesn't get assassinated I wouldn't be surprised if Russia goes all North Korea after this and completely segregates from earth.
MikeStinse
NK is still supplied by Russia and china
Daxton
They could have their own little segregation triangle... oh wait nvm the world would be fucked w/o china lol
sirfanciesadrought
You mean like the Axis powers had?
Skawomplious
The world would be in much better shape without China. We'd learn to live without their chap crap pretty quick.
hoopsnek
It'll be like Germany after WW1... wait
SpecialContainmentProcedures
Just charge the rich, the oil companies, and politicians specifically.
wazeewa
Yea.....we all saw how that went...
stevencloser
While the outcome might end up similar, Germany didn't start that war and was kinda pissed they were given the sole responsibility for it.
Peachcappuccino
Oh SHIT
gsynth
Yes, exactly. Russia is not going to want to pay anyway. Might as well save the trouble and Marshall-plan Ukraine with the west's money.
loosersic
WWI had a lot of other countries involved. Eventually USA even joined in
Tumescentpie
Germany after ww2 didn't go poorly. They paid back the reparations and didn't start ww3.
ElroydIsGone
Won't gonna happen anyway. The sanctions will be bargaining chips later, like: "You give THIS to Ukraine and we will lift THAT sanction".
herrleel
Bill them in dollars, not rubles
erroniousmaximus
Yep. Already said this many times. We need to approach that bag of feral cats one cautious step at a time. Too much too fast and we’re just
erroniousmaximus
Repeating the mistakes we made 100 years ago.
laKuch
Germany also paid reparations after WWII: until 2003 to be more precise.
latenightbreeze
If they stop this soon, all the frozen accounts and seized assets this past week might be enough to cover the physocal damages.
inxed
Very this. This is my concern.
rossimus
You're already seeing this. This is the second act already. They're just shitting the bed in spectacular fashion.
TheDoctor506
And that’s why we invest into the people so they’re never backed up so far into a corner that another dictator will be followed
pumper
Not if Russia is forces to give away every single nuke after this.
Hvammi
There can still be a large war without nukes, germany had it bad after ww1 = easy to ralley people to ww2
inxed
Will never happen. Ever. They will end the world first
Imakethingsweird
Maybe we should collect their nudes before doing a Versailles 2.0?
PerpetuityPhoto
I.... I know that was a typo, but I'm just gonna believe it wasn't.
bloxxing
well we already have gina gerson.
hoopsnek
All nudes to my inbox
DocNitro
To be fair, Versailles was intended to not just be about reparations and the likes, but intentionally to degrade and insult.
DocNitro
Including everything intended to be basically 'choking'. There is a point between 'make them pay' and 'make them suffer'.
sirfanciesadrought
And Putin can surely claim that's what the west is doing to them right now.
DocNitro
He could stop it anytime he wants however.
freshthrowaway1138
Or we just divide it up like Germany after WW2. Give control of Russia to a half dozen of their neighbors and see what happens.
quzar
Hows about autonomy to its repressed republics?
GooteMoo
"And see what happens" has not, historically, worked out well. See: the Balkans.
eiger3970
Back to the Ural mountains, as Putin complains he needs the Carpathian mountains to protect from the north European plain. 17M km is too big
Barkinsons
You mean the Chinese would get Siberia?
GodEmperorOfImgur
Siberia could become it's own nation.
LusciousLucius
And then immediately get eaten up by china OR reform Russia again. Problem is that majority of people is Siberia are ethnically Russian 1/?
LusciousLucius
*in
LusciousLucius
And wanna be a part of a unified Russian nation. There's just no unified Siberian identity at the moment. 2/2
buttdestroyer
I thought they were at least partly using weapons that are more effective against soft targets (people) exactly for that, so they don't >
buttdestroyer
need to rebuild everything. Which would be even more tragic. But then again, I don't think they care about the people or the buildings. They
buttdestroyer
just want to take their land so they can have the ports or something.
rooik14
Honestly Putin might not even care about the land considering they were shelling a nuclear plant
ScyntSkunk
If you read Fiona Hill's opinions, Ukraine wasn't Ukraine in the time Putin wants to create, there were a couple minor settlements and vast
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stretches of nothing beyond those in the area. So no, Putin cares nothing about the people or the infastructure there, just the couple
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natural resources and its western border to keep away NATO.