May 3, 2022 7:39 PM
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MisuseOfLiterally
yep. something i learned to call them earlier today on imgur :anti-choice
QUOLL37
A prime incentive for the anti-abortion loons is the mindless rote preachings of organised religion not the interests of children or women.
roughingupthesuspect
Because they get support and reinforcement from republicans that only want to use the wedge issue to divide voters.
otterkrylon
Conservatives. Are. Bad. People. Their actions keep proving it.
dualplains
They are fighting poverty, they're just fighting 'for' not 'against'.
LowTinaTurner
/a/5ASsuRg
Seminole4ever
If they can’t make money from something then Republicans will outlaw it.
TerraKnight
The more they get to be born into poverty the more slaves they get, so obviously thats what they focus on
shankill
AdrianDunne
So, just to understand this right, the instant the SC decision is sealed there are red states that have legislation ready to go?
MyRealNameIsKaren
Unfortunately, yes.
commentsivehadafew
They’re only pro-life up until birth
JoeT85
I can't believe how much the pro life BS is tied to churches they don't go to and doctrines they don't follow. It's amazing
DeanGulberri1
That's exactly it
xXxSTEVOxXx
They're only pro-life if you take the GOP at their word that what they say they want is actually what they want and not a smoke screen.
pyroshen
It's not even "pro-life", it's just clever branding. It's just "anti-poor people"
Really their just anti-abortion. Human rights or well being doesn't impact their decision making
dcostanza1
I prefer pro forced birth or anti bodily autonomy.
indigodragons
This is disgusting. Those perverts want to control women and punish them for having sex. Let’s take to the streets!
abenteuerpirat
Never seen this put so succinctly. Making a note of this for future reference!
knivesthebrutal
Don't forget about Covid!
Decitron
CynKin
Reich is right!
dudehiemer
Ask "pro-lifers" if they adopted a child. Then ask them how they are pro-life if they are not providing shelter, food, & education to kids.
bBoldBrian
If I could have recorded every conversation I had with my ex about having a child, I could have written a novel about this issue.
TastyLexicon
Or stopping rape, or child porn.
Or stop raping and producing child porn.
cosinewave
Abortion is about the only way they don't like to kill things
Also fetuses arent really "alive" for most of pregnancy.
caerulakid
Doesn’t matter if they are. You can’t make one person subservient to another and call yourself a free country.
That is an exceedingly good point that I am honestly surprised I've not seen made more if at all. Very nice! Thank you
ehaap
If I got pregnant there’s no law that will stop me from getting an abortion. Many prolife women will understand this after getting pregnant.
SomeDetroitGuy
If they wanted to fight abortion, they'd ensure comprehensive sex education (including bodily autonomy education), have freely available, no
I love this take, but in all honesty, I strongly suspect a huge part of the anti-abortion crowd DOES want to stop abortion but is too stupid
to think beyond "abortion is problem, ug...need stop abortion...but how???...OUTLAW ABORTION! Stop is Outlaw! DONE! Me do good!"
Styxwash
It's even worse. They just don't want women to have sex unless it's because a guy wants to make a baby in her.
cost birth control of a wide variety, and free health care visits to get said birth control (particularly things like IUDs, depo, and other
longer-term birth control methods)
alrightalrightalrightpartyatthemoontower
Yea! And easier to get.
cfbshank36
Woah woah there buddy, that’s way too much logic and common sense for the GQP. I highly doubt their constituents can comprehend that idea.
YouWillNeverFindMe
Gotta spend a lot more money on safety nets, even if that just means free schools, medical and dental treatment etc. for the kid. Having a
kid is expensive, cut those costs and we might se a lot fewer abortions. Banning abortion is wrong and immoral, fix the issues instead.
M4UsedRollout
Free contraception/birth control, actual (not abstinence-only) sex-ed, equal opportunities for women. Abortion rates will plummet.
Trouble is, GOP is against all those things as well.
TA2019
Is it life these people actually care about or idealistic innocence? Because that would explain why they arbitrarily are ok with some
Ding ding ding!!! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pW421Rylw8A
Deaths and not others, like this post mentions.
IAmGORT
If the GOP & SCOTUS are so pro-life then SCOTUS should throw out the 2nd amendment, guns being the number 1 killer of children in the USA.
bUt If GuNs ArE oUtLaWeD tHaT mAkEs ReVoLuTiOn IlLeGaL!!! HoW cAn We ReVoLuTiOn IF REVOLUTION NOT LEGAL?!?!?
?
macrosss001
That's because it's takes next to no effort, money or input of any kind.
As soon as there is actual work involved other then flapping gums. The willingness to follow through drops drastically.
literallymike
The true believers don't want to risk the chance of aborting the alleged "second coming." They're geared up for the rapture.
The second coming probably already happened in the 50s or 60s and he was killed for being non-white and a socialist.
I feel there's a good Bioshock zinger in this, but I'm not clever enough.
Would you kindly share it?
I would love to if I were clever enough :(
XAMANDER
Many Republicans are a "fuck you I got mine" mentality and literally don't give a shit about anyone else or helping them.
CarpoolTunnelSyndrome
People love to label themselves as peak strawmen if their own arguments. Me? I'm pro-well-being unless you don't agree with me.
frischcode
thedudeman519
Good explanation of the OVerton Window as well.
thejanke
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton_window
jrntn
The average conservative voter in the US will gladly give up theirs to make sure you don't get yours
BigDaddysMeatWagon
Yet they happily accept social security, disability, and food stamps
TheFifthTK
The modern American Dream is to get yours, so you can deny others and get theirs too
OverwhelmingSurplusOfDiggity
It’s because one of their fundamental attributes is that they view everything as zero-sum: for me to win, another must lose. /1
And if another wins, then I must lose. Not “should”. This is a fundamental aspect of the universe to them.
FourScoreAndSevenBeersAgo
They don't care about any of these things because they affect those they deem "lesser".
RootyTootyDrunkenShooty
“Praise Jesus”
Felextheminimal
But most don't even have theirs, they're just convinced others do not deserve it.
Harbltron
Right? Red states are the real welfare queens. Legions of drooling rascal riders fat on the government teat, screaming about socialism.
TheStaffmaster
1: you cant exploit the Poor if they aren't being born. (This will be several) >
2: you can't convince a desperate man that a life of military service is preferable to civilian life if he has other options. >
3: "Babies are cute and cute things are good, so killing cute things is bad" (This is a similar mentality that spawned PeTA)>
TBH, I'm yet to be convinced that Peta is anything but a wannabe exhibitionists-group stuck in self-denial, so they pretend to be ASPCA.
I mean, sure, I'm all for ending body shame and 'murica's nudity/sexuality false equivalence too, but fffUUUcckk!!! At least own up to it!!!
4: Those under extreme circumstances are more likely to say, do, or (more importantly) believe anything to gain "hope." >
5: Desperation breeds crime, and when incarceration is a business, the prison system must be kept full to maximize profits. >
6: You can't build a Moral Identity on the premise of lip service to "helping the less fortunate" if all of societies ills are solved.
First, it's about punishing women for having sex. And, of course, Republicans aren't interested in having sex with women.
Iblamemyparentstoo
They're more interested in the minors they're having sex with. But it's really about punishing poor women their kids still get abortions
It's about scoring easy votes from people who don't understand biology. The anti-women thing is just a bonus-scoring extra votes from bigots
They are interested in using sex as a means to dominate and control women's bodies by forcing them to be pregnant.
That's the punishment for having sex. And if it kills you, that was god's will. Your aren't allowed to ask any questions. God's will.
icyanddicey
No, the birthlings are simply the resource needed in 15 years
MonteCristo1985
Its about maintaining a desperate workforce. American capitalism has never figured out how to function without exploiting.
It knows full well how to function without exploiting. It just doesn't care b/c why settle for one yacht, when exploitation can get you a...
fleet of yachts plus a megayacht, an inroad with Jeff Epstein, and a private space rocket.
And ownership of a major traditional and/or social media outlet.
MisuseOfLiterally
yep. something i learned to call them earlier today on imgur :anti-choice
QUOLL37
A prime incentive for the anti-abortion loons is the mindless rote preachings of organised religion not the interests of children or women.
roughingupthesuspect
Because they get support and reinforcement from republicans that only want to use the wedge issue to divide voters.
otterkrylon
Conservatives. Are. Bad. People. Their actions keep proving it.
dualplains
They are fighting poverty, they're just fighting 'for' not 'against'.
LowTinaTurner
/a/5ASsuRg
Seminole4ever
If they can’t make money from something then Republicans will outlaw it.
TerraKnight
The more they get to be born into poverty the more slaves they get, so obviously thats what they focus on
shankill
AdrianDunne
So, just to understand this right, the instant the SC decision is sealed there are red states that have legislation ready to go?
MyRealNameIsKaren
Unfortunately, yes.
commentsivehadafew
They’re only pro-life up until birth
JoeT85
I can't believe how much the pro life BS is tied to churches they don't go to and doctrines they don't follow. It's amazing
DeanGulberri1
That's exactly it
xXxSTEVOxXx
They're only pro-life if you take the GOP at their word that what they say they want is actually what they want and not a smoke screen.
pyroshen
It's not even "pro-life", it's just clever branding. It's just "anti-poor people"
DeanGulberri1
Really their just anti-abortion. Human rights or well being doesn't impact their decision making
dcostanza1
I prefer pro forced birth or anti bodily autonomy.
indigodragons
This is disgusting. Those perverts want to control women and punish them for having sex. Let’s take to the streets!
abenteuerpirat
Never seen this put so succinctly. Making a note of this for future reference!
knivesthebrutal
Don't forget about Covid!
Decitron
CynKin
Reich is right!
dudehiemer
Ask "pro-lifers" if they adopted a child. Then ask them how they are pro-life if they are not providing shelter, food, & education to kids.
bBoldBrian
If I could have recorded every conversation I had with my ex about having a child, I could have written a novel about this issue.
TastyLexicon
Or stopping rape, or child porn.
MyRealNameIsKaren
Or stop raping and producing child porn.
cosinewave
Abortion is about the only way they don't like to kill things
xXxSTEVOxXx
Also fetuses arent really "alive" for most of pregnancy.
caerulakid
Doesn’t matter if they are. You can’t make one person subservient to another and call yourself a free country.
xXxSTEVOxXx
That is an exceedingly good point that I am honestly surprised I've not seen made more if at all. Very nice! Thank you
ehaap
If I got pregnant there’s no law that will stop me from getting an abortion. Many prolife women will understand this after getting pregnant.
SomeDetroitGuy
If they wanted to fight abortion, they'd ensure comprehensive sex education (including bodily autonomy education), have freely available, no
MyRealNameIsKaren
I love this take, but in all honesty, I strongly suspect a huge part of the anti-abortion crowd DOES want to stop abortion but is too stupid
MyRealNameIsKaren
to think beyond "abortion is problem, ug...need stop abortion...but how???...OUTLAW ABORTION! Stop is Outlaw! DONE! Me do good!"
Styxwash
It's even worse. They just don't want women to have sex unless it's because a guy wants to make a baby in her.
SomeDetroitGuy
cost birth control of a wide variety, and free health care visits to get said birth control (particularly things like IUDs, depo, and other
SomeDetroitGuy
longer-term birth control methods)
alrightalrightalrightpartyatthemoontower
Yea! And easier to get.
cfbshank36
Woah woah there buddy, that’s way too much logic and common sense for the GQP. I highly doubt their constituents can comprehend that idea.
YouWillNeverFindMe
Gotta spend a lot more money on safety nets, even if that just means free schools, medical and dental treatment etc. for the kid. Having a
YouWillNeverFindMe
kid is expensive, cut those costs and we might se a lot fewer abortions. Banning abortion is wrong and immoral, fix the issues instead.
M4UsedRollout
Free contraception/birth control, actual (not abstinence-only) sex-ed, equal opportunities for women. Abortion rates will plummet.
M4UsedRollout
Trouble is, GOP is against all those things as well.
TA2019
Is it life these people actually care about or idealistic innocence? Because that would explain why they arbitrarily are ok with some
MyRealNameIsKaren
Ding ding ding!!! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pW421Rylw8A
TA2019
Deaths and not others, like this post mentions.
IAmGORT
If the GOP & SCOTUS are so pro-life then SCOTUS should throw out the 2nd amendment, guns being the number 1 killer of children in the USA.
MyRealNameIsKaren
bUt If GuNs ArE oUtLaWeD tHaT mAkEs ReVoLuTiOn IlLeGaL!!! HoW cAn We ReVoLuTiOn IF REVOLUTION NOT LEGAL?!?!?
IAmGORT
?
macrosss001
That's because it's takes next to no effort, money or input of any kind.
macrosss001
As soon as there is actual work involved other then flapping gums. The willingness to follow through drops drastically.
literallymike
The true believers don't want to risk the chance of aborting the alleged "second coming." They're geared up for the rapture.
M4UsedRollout
The second coming probably already happened in the 50s or 60s and he was killed for being non-white and a socialist.
MyRealNameIsKaren
I feel there's a good Bioshock zinger in this, but I'm not clever enough.
literallymike
Would you kindly share it?
MyRealNameIsKaren
I would love to if I were clever enough :(
XAMANDER
Many Republicans are a "fuck you I got mine" mentality and literally don't give a shit about anyone else or helping them.
CarpoolTunnelSyndrome
People love to label themselves as peak strawmen if their own arguments. Me? I'm pro-well-being unless you don't agree with me.
frischcode
thedudeman519
Good explanation of the OVerton Window as well.
thejanke
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton_window
jrntn
The average conservative voter in the US will gladly give up theirs to make sure you don't get yours
BigDaddysMeatWagon
Yet they happily accept social security, disability, and food stamps
TheFifthTK
The modern American Dream is to get yours, so you can deny others and get theirs too
OverwhelmingSurplusOfDiggity
It’s because one of their fundamental attributes is that they view everything as zero-sum: for me to win, another must lose. /1
OverwhelmingSurplusOfDiggity
And if another wins, then I must lose. Not “should”. This is a fundamental aspect of the universe to them.
FourScoreAndSevenBeersAgo
They don't care about any of these things because they affect those they deem "lesser".
RootyTootyDrunkenShooty
“Praise Jesus”
Felextheminimal
But most don't even have theirs, they're just convinced others do not deserve it.
Harbltron
Right? Red states are the real welfare queens. Legions of drooling rascal riders fat on the government teat, screaming about socialism.
TheStaffmaster
1: you cant exploit the Poor if they aren't being born. (This will be several) >
TheStaffmaster
2: you can't convince a desperate man that a life of military service is preferable to civilian life if he has other options. >
TheStaffmaster
3: "Babies are cute and cute things are good, so killing cute things is bad" (This is a similar mentality that spawned PeTA)>
MyRealNameIsKaren
TBH, I'm yet to be convinced that Peta is anything but a wannabe exhibitionists-group stuck in self-denial, so they pretend to be ASPCA.
MyRealNameIsKaren
I mean, sure, I'm all for ending body shame and 'murica's nudity/sexuality false equivalence too, but fffUUUcckk!!! At least own up to it!!!
TheStaffmaster
4: Those under extreme circumstances are more likely to say, do, or (more importantly) believe anything to gain "hope." >
TheStaffmaster
5: Desperation breeds crime, and when incarceration is a business, the prison system must be kept full to maximize profits. >
TheStaffmaster
6: You can't build a Moral Identity on the premise of lip service to "helping the less fortunate" if all of societies ills are solved.
frischcode
First, it's about punishing women for having sex. And, of course, Republicans aren't interested in having sex with women.
Iblamemyparentstoo
They're more interested in the minors they're having sex with. But it's really about punishing poor women their kids still get abortions
MyRealNameIsKaren
It's about scoring easy votes from people who don't understand biology. The anti-women thing is just a bonus-scoring extra votes from bigots
xXxSTEVOxXx
They are interested in using sex as a means to dominate and control women's bodies by forcing them to be pregnant.
frischcode
That's the punishment for having sex. And if it kills you, that was god's will. Your aren't allowed to ask any questions. God's will.
icyanddicey
No, the birthlings are simply the resource needed in 15 years
MonteCristo1985
Its about maintaining a desperate workforce. American capitalism has never figured out how to function without exploiting.
MyRealNameIsKaren
It knows full well how to function without exploiting. It just doesn't care b/c why settle for one yacht, when exploitation can get you a...
MyRealNameIsKaren
fleet of yachts plus a megayacht, an inroad with Jeff Epstein, and a private space rocket.
MyRealNameIsKaren
And ownership of a major traditional and/or social media outlet.