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Girlie1337
Who are the new big producers, directors, etc of this time that I'm supposed to be watching? Who are my new Tim Burtons, Steven Spielbergs, James Camerons, Wes Andersons?
IOftenDeleteCommentsCauseISuckAtTyping
Wow almost like the fucking problem is that everything is ruled by greed! Come on, lads, we are so close to getting it.
eruditic
yet somehow, they will manage to have an award show where they congratulate themselves.
AutoFox
The companies who threaten not to finish the stories I've become invested in because they did an oops and their last project made $5 less than they expected do not deserve my sympathy. Solidarity forever.
Shaodyn
And they could easily have avoided this situation by actually paying people what they're worth, but they refused to because profit.
draek1
I'm happy with Hollywood getting a hard reset. Strike for years if you need to, maybe we'll get some new fucking ideas instead of garbage remakes when they get back to it.
Svartsinn
A fundamental flaw with capitalism is that financial institutions will always over-value themselves at the expense of everything else.
Isorikk
George Lucas said it best to the studio companies, "You guys just go to the bank and ask for a loan and then take all the profits. I can go to a bank myself, so why do I need you?" And then he produced Star Wars by himself and used the merchandise profits (which were insanely high) to found the first CGI and visual effects studios in LucasArts.
TinaTheWonderBra
There’s no new people is a weird take. I’m currently in school with plenty of new people being told we have to sacrifice everything and work for basically nothing to hopefully someday get our foot in the door and make enough to live on and if we’re passionate about filmmaking of course we’ll work for free
StopTheWorldIWannaGetOff
The goal is money. For everything, always. In Hollywood this translates to fads, hot actors, algorithms, pandering, big SFX and little depth, owning everything and paying as little as possible for while preventing anyone else from potentially doing something better, new or original with existing IP. Good may be subjective, but GOOD entertainment wasn't the goal. The goal, as always, is profit. Fuck the ratings, or views, profit wins.
Blackfinity
Hollywood's had no new ideas for more than a decade so no great loss.
TheNoggle
You can just post your thoughts here, you don't need to post to twitter, screenshot it and *then* post it here.
LurkersAssemble
TheNoggle
fr though who screenshots a tweet with 4 views, aside from the person who tweeted it.
WellBehavedZombie
When you can only sell yourself or a script to say 10 different areas, if they all want to underpay you don't really have a choice. That's not good business that's a conspiracy, and this method is done in employment too.
PardonMyLagg
Hollywood has become such a cancerous cesspool in the last 15-20 years and everything they put out for us to consume has just gotten worse with each passing year. Let em all bleed, lest they forget the paying customers and fans alike.
yallmfsneedjesus
Agreed. I could give two shits about "new content". I could survive the rest of my life on old content, documentaries and books and i guess reality tv for some hate watching. Wish UPS would get have as much media exposure as stupid ass hollywood.
ItispronouncedGIFwithahardG
Paying customers keep paying for the trash though. Had a conversation with coworkers when the last Fast and Furious came out about how bad those films are. They all admitted it but seemed upset when I pointed out that they paid to see them in theaters and this is exactly why there is so much crap made in Hollywood.
ramshead91
If you have a 1million dollar idea but it takes a 100 other individuals to make it 1% is a good cut. What is happening here is there are hundreds of million dollars being made and outside of a few stars most a making pennies and they aren't get residuals anymore for their work and the executives want more and more ownership.ofnthe IP others made, even down to ones own image.
jimicus
I get the "no new writers" bit. Why no new set directors, producers, casting directors, art department etc?
ekzeko
Everything the other guy said, on the backdrop of exploding housing costs. Very few people want to dip a toe in there.
WrathOfJigglypuff
The art department has been abused for decades. Long, long hours, shrinking deadlines and you are expected to "work for the love of your craft". This of course means putting up with low pay and a lot of bullshit. Sometimes you wind up not being paid at all.
Justwarlockthings
Basically treated like video game devs
jimicus
Ah, so they’re on strike too?
Justwarlockthings
Video game devs? No. They’ve tried though. Activision Blizzard devs almost had it but now with Microsoft buying them that changes things.
whitebbwolf
hollywood accounting is why you accept percentage earnings on net income, not net profits
MoJordan1
This is happening in every industry in all workplaces. i hope whatever progress, or benefits, the writers and actors obtain, creates a movement for us all, where skill and craft hold at least as much value as "funding..." i just don't ever understand why the greed of needing every single dollar, and sharing the least possible amount with the people who actually make it all happen is the norm. Why can't everyone get what they actually work for!!! Fuck all people who are professional exploiters!
c3l3x
People in the entertainment industry need to be paid a fair wage upfront. No promises of lifetime residuals to make up for substandard pay that are broken with "creative" Hollywood accounting. Imagine paying your mechanic 10% of what they should be paid and promise a few cents for every mile you drive.
ToSisPoS
Tipping economy meets futures speculation.
mrthewhitee
Imagine paying your mechanic once for an oil change and expecting him to maintain your car for free for the rest of his life. That's what the proposed contract actually states.
whatsisname
With that, copyright durations need to be seriously curtailed, too.
reichstein
And then driving hundreds of thousands of miles but paying them nothing because you did some creative distance calculations involving planetary motion and concluded you actually drove negative distance.
PowerThruster
Very fine way to describe their accounting practices
Tumescentpie
Capitalism is a failed ideology. It is time to embrace social support ideas like UBI.
RevengeIsIceCream
Especially with them doing write-offs but not airing things anymore...
AntiTrollPatrol
THE most accurate description of what they’re doing
eetsumkaus
the mechanic analogy doesn't make sense. Think instead of the engineer who invented a part in your car, and then they get a cut of every car that's sold using it. It's profit sharing. Yes you need to stand up for yourself when you do negotiations, but that goes for negotiating wages as well.
awm89s
Can someone explain what creative accounting they did to get out of the residuals? I remember years ago the cast of “friends” was making 10 million a year. And Seinfeld even more?
drinkthederpentine
Residuals are awesome.... If they aren't destroyed by "creative" accounting
ISayYouWhoDis
My wife and I both used to work in Hollywood. (We have since relocated.) She worked in production & I in post. Worked with all the studios at one point or another. I would see studios make 10+ trailers & throw loads of money into a "tentpole" property that cost 100 million + to make (that was later panned by critics and audiences) only to make 2 trailers for a film that cost 20mil to make that turns out to be a smash at the box office. Hollywood executives dint know what the hell they're doing.
MrRandom314159
How the hell do you navigate the sea of human interests reliably?
ISayYouWhoDis
I dont think one can. That's why you'll see generic trailers because they don't really know what angle to advertise the film. You'd be surprised at the number of trailers that are sometimes made that highlight different aspects of the film; action-specific trailer, love interest specific trailer, a character specific trailer, etc.
ekzeko
Did you see a big difference between studio interference in big tentpoles vs smaller budget movies? it feels like a lot of the stifling and poor decision making stems from corporate meddling into the process. Beyond the fact few studios except A24, amazon, and apple, seem to want to try making smaller budget movies.
ISayYouWhoDis
Saw studios interfere no matter the size of the project. Obviously they have a lot more invested in a tentpole & need to get butts into the theater to justify the giant budget. Though I did see more higher executives being involved in the tentpoles. Think Transformers: the last Knight vs. A Quiet Place. Studios also have the problem of that they dont truly know how to market some films (it's action/adventure but are we marketing for kids? It's a thriller but should we market a horror angle?)
SaintSleepyWeasel
I really wish more of the big time masters of craft would start their own companies. Do go back to these studios, drive them out of business. They have all the talent and drive. They don't need the studios. I know it's not that easy, but I'd put my trust in writers to rewrite how we do entertainment.
SaintSleepyWeasel
Don't. Don't go back
amundost
Things have gotten to the point where it's too expensive to make a movie that is not a "sure thing". It's soon going to be AI generated scripts and 100% CGI
AllisDashChalmersWasAnInsideJob
And everyone will bitch and moan about it on the internet, but they will still sell tickets, and it will become normalized. Too few put their money where their mouth is
astronomypictures
Movies all make a loss financially forever. It’s called Hollywood accounting and is somehow legal.
leodavinci1
Which can be laid entirely at the feet of the IRS, the CA Dept of Revenue, and every other State and Nation that allows the entertainment industry to engage in "creative accounting" procedures with their exemptions and loopholes.
Phayze87
People keep saying that like its a bad thing but if the end result is the same why does everyone make a stink? Insert story about AI art that won a contest but before the artist revealed he used AI, all of their reactions, the awwe, the feelings it evoked were still real? So... I don't get the fuss. Generate me a compelling new space or war movie. It's all garbage nowadays hopefully the robots will save us.
NairouTryyshokk
It does not cost what they say it costs, and they earn more than they say it earns. Box office profits are not the whole thing, how much money does Netflix or disney+ make? Almost none of that probably goes to creators.
ekzeko
Disney's film division is probably at a net loss for the past 5 years, disney plus is a clear loss, and they will need to settle a 9 billion debt to Comcast for their part in Hulu in the next few months. The fact Disney can still finance a 300 million $ movie is more puzzling than their payment schemes.
mrthewhitee
This just isn't true. One of the best movies of 2022 was a budget of 25 million with lots of effects and action. Plenty of dramas and comedies are made for less than half that cost.
SillyZombie
You dont understand why movies are expensive or how hollywood calculates profits
usernameusedinlessplatforms2
How expensive and what expenses are made...eh.. calculated in the profits is totally depending on if ppl wanted they pay as net profits % or not.
amundost
What in my comment gave of the impression that I didn't understand why?
patta8388
Because decent CGI is expensive as shit.
n10ae
As a graphic artist of 8 years in the art department working on big films, I 100% disagree. AI is a shiny new calculator. A glittering plugin. The fad will pass but it will remain a useful tool to speed things up. As for the cost and risk on studios... Stop relying on cgi then if it's so expensive. It's not integral, it's become a crutch. THE problem right now is that the streaming platforms are both the producers AND the distributors. It doesn't work this way, and historically never has.
amundost
I'm a developer. AI is great for making a shell structure, as it's just about doing it. But it's really not that far off for a lot of optimization etc
ekzeko
It depends how refined and consistent it manages to become. Correct me if i'm wrong but, the results are stochastic right now. But the moment you can stage a scene and maintain the same design and details for every following itteration of a graphic, it'll become more than a tool for mock ups.
amundost
It's only a matter of time before AI will replace a lot of jobs. Like any jobs where most of it is analyzing data, will be replaced. Not completely replaced, but like 200 people spending 8 hours a day will be reduced to AI analysis and 5 guys verifying
dharmax4676
A show about nothing.
jackal12345
Funny how the writers strike's been going on for like 2 months and now that the actors are striking suddenly people care. Shame about the lighting, sound, set designs, ect guys. Restaurant industry's probably also gonna take a hit given how much film crews eat out while on set.
AnastasiaM007
That's what unions do. They jump in and help smaller unions have a big impact. If the truckers decided to jump on since they delivered everything to the studios, retail would pressure the studios to give in. Why do the actors jumping in help? We know the actors. We recognize them. When they speak of studio injustice, we listen. Why did the actors jump in? No work fir them either.
rooik14
well yes two major groups striking at the same time hits harder than just one.
Sticklebrickk
I'm not the only one to realize that there's not a lot churning out of the machine in the last 15 years am I?
SillyZombie
That's becaus eyoure wrong
TheoFromSteam
soup71
Canadian here. Quite some time ago, Tim Hortons had bakers in every donut shop. They found that quality was not uniform, because they 1/3
soup71
Don’t pay shit and talented bakers would leave for better money. The solution was a massive commissary in Brampton where donuts are 95% 2/3
soup71
With the last5% done in store to ensure they can advertise “always fresh” In Hollywood this will mean 5-10 writers programming AI.
HappyPetunia
It’s not like Hollywood regularly produces truly new movies anyway. It’s all remakes or milking a franchise (based on other media) to death.
fenlander
Don't forget all the people offered a percent of the profits only to be told that the worldwide blockbuster hit had made a loss and they were getting nothing. You have to fight the adverts but here are a few: https://whatculture.com/film/11-incredibly-successful-movies-that-shockingly-made-no-profit
doctorbocker
I have heard that, on paper, almost no movie has ever turned a net profit.
Rage3
Just because the studios pay themselves in advance as loans so suddenly that $100M net profit becomes $0 and net% contractors get shafted
barnwolf
Ya pretty sure movie financing is basically a scam. They take out so many high return loans that some people are basically guaranteed to never get paid and it's almost certainly a convoluted lawyer nightmare trying to figure out who will be getting paid first.
MykillMetal
Net vs Gross. Know which is which when negotiating.
Fizzypeach
How do they not include salaries of the actors in the cost of making the movie?? Forest Gump had a budget of $55 million yet Hanks and the director made $31 million each? Its not like they wouldn't have settled on a number in the contracts before hand it sems weird to separate the two.
TinaTheWonderBra
Whatever the studio accounting thing is doing is divorced from the reality of coming up with the budget for filming your stuff. I know my production classes definitely have you include everyone’s pay including the actor lol
PaulHavingABall
I don’t know if this is the case here but a lot of actors and directors take reduced salaries in exchange for backend points. So they won’t actually know how much they made until the movie finishes it’s run and they get their percentage.
AnonMasterRace
Hmm. Sounds familiar. Oh right. Randy Bitchford did that with Borderlands 3 and gimped his dev team of their bonus pay. He naturally still got a huge bonus himself.
Lyconous
Funny story, couldn't remember bitchfords name during a conversation last week, so I quickly googled "gearbox asshole".....top 5 hits were all him.
darkhalfbreed
I'd be impressed if someone else popped up in that top 5
HarryBlackstoneCopperfieldDresdenIsMyPatronus
I've never heard of him, but it sounds like he has not, in his life, exercised the kind of caution that one ought to whilst carrying around a name like Randy Bitchford.
Lyconous
His real name is Pitchford, but he's the exec who blatantly and knowingly lied about the Aliens: Colonial Marines game way back when, plus enforced a fuckton of really really shitty business practices at gearbox
Clockworkdancerobot
Just like always, rich capitalists do their damnedest to hurt people for a bit more profit.
Varenvel
Rich capitalists? , all capitalists you rather meant.
Skywatcher16
you will never find someone who believes themselves more entitled to more free shit than a capitalist.
SonderingStrike
You were so close; the capitalists don't care in the slightest about whether they hurt you or not. Their motive is purely short term profit, and the fact that they hurt you along the way is just coincidence. It is an amoral system that often appears immoral; hence, we must kill it.
NeverDownvoteMelBrooks
AKA only pay what you're required to pay and pay the rule makers to minimize required pay
Clockworkdancerobot
MasterMookie
Oh what was that story. A company was brought in an advisor after they had suddenly lost a lot of customer for a very small price increase. "We only raised the price by 0.25 dollars" The advisor asks if they had done any price increases previously. "Yeah, we raised it last year by the same amount." And before that? "The same amount."
MasterMookie
"So if we lower our price back by 0.25 dollars will we get our customers back?" No says the advisors. Those customers are lost. You would have the lower it by less than the initial subscription fee to get them back. Does anyone remember that story and where to find it?
seakoos
Hollywood wouldn't know talent. They canceled Firefly.
ZuluAssault9
From what ive read, nathan fillian was kind of a dick to work with and thats why castle ended prematurely as well
brizio
Yes, I really hate it when they don’t let a show come into its own by only giving it EIGHT SEASONS
darkstarmc
They cancelled Farscape.
ridureyu
Joss Whedon would have ruined Firefly belt season 3. Early cancellation means we remember it for what it could have been in a good way.
CityYeti
And Mission Hill
softsuit
Cognitive dissonance and thank you very much.
WrongUn
But at least BBT has been going for a billion seasons
petresun
Wow. This motivated me harder than anything else to stand behind these BEAUTIFUL craft workers. We are witnessing a travesty of epic proportions in The Arts, all for the sake of "I'LL BUY THAT FOR A DOLLAR! (LAUGH TRACK)".
Heisanevilgenius
... Firefly wasn't Hollywood
Isorikk
They let Henry Cavill leave the Witcher.
turngo
fuck Firefly and Joss Whedon . It was alright.
EatPieLander
They broadcast the episodes OUT OF ORDER, canceled, AND they even had THREE episodes that were finished and never shown. How is that not imbecilic "executive management".
sometimeslifehandsyouapples
This!!!!
RooGryphon
hollywood also does not know what a GOOD movie is. but oh yea lets remake a remake of a remake, thats a good idea since we have no originality anymore or lets create something that gains huge popularity but then cancel it for more remakes of shit we DONT WANT
TheobromineAddict
Lately I've been rewatching movies from the 1900's, and yes, they are better than anything I've seen from the 2000's.
Sticklebrickk
BurningVeryImportantThings
while we know it was fox it is important to never forget
an individual was responsible for this crime!
SJohnson23
It would have been a board decision, just like their terrible publicity for the show was.
PatrickDiomedes
Given some of the ideas for episodes joss had, I think it's good it got canceled. (He wanted to do an episode where Inara got raped by Reavers)
GoldenBrownApples
Jesus, see yeah that's the vibe I got rewatching the show as an adult. Like they were trying to "push the envelope" but it was really coming off as a bit incel-y?
aqissiaqgl
And The Owl House. I unsubbed from Disney+ because of that.
kmlkmljkl
they canceled the OA
afatrollofmyown
And Sense8
BelicoseBravado
And released Morbius twice
mthrndr01
And yet, I feel we may need a third so we can really determine whether or not it actually is Morbin' Time.
yallmfsneedjesus
I tried to watch that series 3 separate times. And I am sorry but it sucks. It was extremely boring with barely a plot (and not an original one) Thats why it was canceled. I do not understand the hype. Well acted is my only praise.
GoldenBrownApples
Honestly, I really think it was the actors who carried that show. They made people fall in love with the characters, to the point that the plot didn't matter. You've actually really helped me in pointing that out. I've been raking my brain about why I liked Firefly when I thought the writing was awful. It was the actors!
HollerinAtTheVoid
If you watch the making of Serenity, they openly joke about when some of the execs saw the movie that they were like "this would have been a great tv series! Can we make this into a regular show?!"
TheGlow
While Fast and the Furious 23 is in production.
dedpan
Good news: Everything Joss Whedon writes is the same, so you can just switch over to another show of his.
foreverisjustonemoredayaway
Look! Free food!
BeesechurgerProductions
I'm gonna say it: The best thing to happen to that show was its cancellation. That's exactly the kind of show that would've run far longer than it ever should have had it survived, with a huge dip in quality, especially as Joss Whedon started getting more and more involved in film and wouldn't have been around to oversee the show as much(Plus his ideas for more episodes were pretty cringey)
NotMyUsualOnlineName
To be fair, it's Joss Whedon. Most of his ideas (and a good chunk of his actions) are pretty cringey.
GorillaPowers
Not to mention it was just a bad show. It absolutely does not deserve its weirdly rabid fan base
GreatOdinsTaint
Point taken, but I think that show had another good two or three seasons left in it. I mean pretty much every long running shoe tanks at a certain point and you just cherish the good and disregard the bad. In my mind, the Simpsons was a great show that lasted 10 seasons before it was cancelled in the 90s.
ridureyu
Whedon would have ruined it by season 3! It’s better that we idealize What Could Have Been than dealing with whatever mess it would have turned out to be.
mmmerf1
I would've liked more of it. There was more, much more to do.
GoldenBrownApples
As much as I love Firefly, and I do, rewatching it as an adult really made some of the moments hit different? I guess I just didn't notice all references to rape and stuff as a teen. Or just how weirdly problematic Juble Early was. I get that he was a psycho bounty hunter but some of the stuff he said was like "some dude wrote that, in real life, and his peers went 'yep that's good content' and they put it on tv." But it wasn't really necessary to lean that hard into his woman hating.
GoldenBrownApples
"Man is by far stronger than woman, but only woman can create life. Do you think that's fair?" Like, that is so out of place and out there it doesn't make sense to me why they included it.
HollerinAtTheVoid
The series was pitched to studios as "the old West frontier, but in space" (also how Star Trek was pitched). So it's actually pretty spot on. You may not like it, but it doesnt hold a candle to some of the monsters I've met growing up in Texas. Juble is like dipping a toe in the cesspool. Just my personal opinion. Not necessarily knocking yours. I just kinda thought of him as "Dog the Bounty Hunter" but black.
GoldenBrownApples
Which I guess I get, but it felt like it was in every episode. This weird undertone of rapeyness. Maybe that's a thing in Texas/the Old West, but it really started to wear on me. Maybe because I was raped in my 20's, but it lost it's appeal real fast and made it hard to enjoy the rest of the show, knowing there was a lot of rape talk sprinkled in where it felt out of place to me. Hell that whole episode with Mal's "wife" was like one long "don't rape her" joke.
HollerinAtTheVoid
Yeah, having "skin in the game" would definitely make difficult to enjoy. I had a backwards attitude towards gay people when i was younger because i was groped by a church choir member (I'm male, 16 at the time, and he was "gay"), many of those ppl i met then think and say things way worse than whats in our shows, but the experience probably makes it way easier for me to hear because they were role models for me at one point and Ive had to navigate their immense social circles growing up.
HollerinAtTheVoid
Btw, i was lucky and my mom nipped the "gay" thing in the bud when i finally told her what was going on. So she had me meet her gay coworkers "the Bills" who helped rectify that and reported the choir member. Nothing was done to him, but it got me away from him and out of his class at my HS
GoldenBrownApples
Or that one where they had to defend the illegitimate "whorehouse" and one of the girls went to the guy they were fighting and told him their plan and then had to suck a dudes dick in front of everyone to show them what women were really good for. Then her own sisters turned on her even though she had obviously gotten herself into an abusive relationship with a guy who didn't see her as a person. She needed compassion more than anything else and they threw her away same as he did.
Audasity
i personally think part of the reason firefly flopped was due to its name.
Audasity
love the downvotes for having a fucking opinion
DTNemes
It wasn't that good imo.
GermanSausagesAreTheWurst
I'm with you. I was excited to find it after everybody said how great it is. I watched about half of the first season and I was like "WTF, this sucks." Sorry, but I'd rather watch Star Trek: Enterprise.
BeatenBearface
I appreciate you sharing your opinion.
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Masinx
GermanSausagesAreTheWurst
I heard everybody talking about how great that show was, so I was excited to watch it. I got about halfway through the first season and I stopped watching. Come on, cowboys in space? Lame. Star Trek is way better.
28dayslaterwasawarning
Educate yourself:
GermanSausagesAreTheWurst
I've known that since before you were born, and it's irrelevant because Firefly is still lame.
Heisanevilgenius
Trollolololol
GermanSausagesAreTheWurst
Do you think it's possible that that is my genuine opinion, or must I be a troll because I disagree with you?
Heisanevilgenius
I'm not going to give you tips on how to be a better troll
WarlockWithNoPatron
You've got to put the /s or people assume you're serious. It's impossible to manufacture and obviously sarcastic opinion because there is someone who genuinely holds that opinion.
GermanSausagesAreTheWurst
I was completely serious. I wanted to watch it because everyone said it was great, but I was disappointed and I didn't like it at all. I guess having a different opinion is frowned on here.
TheCarolingian
You're telling me this now? I'm, like, 5 episodes in on the first series...
naught101
There is only one series...
PaulHavingABall
Funny thing. I was out of the country when Firefly first aired. When I came home I saw the trailers for Serenity and became smitten with it. I loved the film and walking out of the theater I said something stupid like, “I would watch an entire series based on the exploits of this crew!” That’s when I found out that it had already happened and was tragically cancelled.
NothingPrince
Don't worry there's a movie to end the series properly
Elnauriel
And some really decent comic books that continue the story and give some nice backstory. =)
DdCno1
A movie so good that it can stand on its own, even if you didn't watch the series first.
PopeBruce
Watched the movie first, it was good but the series blows it away.
NothingPrince
Totally. Im in AUS so we got the movie first.
ozbugsy
Also in Aus, saw the series before the movie came out - accidentally found it while flipping channels at 1am or a similar ridiculous hour.
QuandoDioVuoleCastigarciCiMandaQuelloCheDesederiamo
Spoiler alert: This series, while being 500 years in the future in terms of canon (and awesomeness), was actually made 21 years ago.
BurningVeryImportantThings
you shut your filthy mouth!
aqissiaqgl
Shut your whore mouth! I will not be made aware of fleeting time so callously!!
googoddess
Don't say that. Don't do that to me.
OnlyOneArman
Like a leaf on the wind...
googoddess
He killed me with a sword. How weird is that?
dangerspouse
getadogupya
Damn yokels, can't even tell a transport ship ain't got no guns on it.
BurningVeryImportantThings
sure would be nice if we had some GERNADES right about now don't ya think!?
Elnauriel
"I wass aiming for hss head." O_o
lowkeylives
As angry as I am every time I think about what Firefly could have been, I'm so glad they never did a 10+ year reboot. It was bottled lightning, and you let it go. It will never have that same energy.
WaywardLurker
I think it's only a matter of time before they try anyway.
dangerspouse
I'll admit I'm in the same camp. Some things are best because they're rare and limited. Firefly is special because of this. Same as Cowboy Bebop.
BurningVeryImportantThings
Bebop really is a modern masterpiece!
dangerspouse
Couldn't agree more :)