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Apartment complexes and rental places know nobody will tell you what's available 2 months down the road. Everyone goes "oh, uh.. we're gonna get our own notices soon". They may have already gotten notices previous month, but they want to rent the place out next month, not hold the place for a month w/o getting paid.
So, we play this stupid game every time the leases come up. They raise rents, b/c they know it sucks looking for a new place, packing, moving, etc, and now b/c you can't get a place lined up before giving the move-out notice. So, you have to gamble by putting in your notice and THEN trying to find a new place.
Also, the same apartment in our complex is listed online for less that what they want to raise us to. Wife used that last time to negotiate to keep our rent the same. This time. Nope. Don't let the door hit you on the way out. They'd rather get rid of us and get someone new in that will pay LESS rent for the same place.
It's mind-boggling.
And the crazy rent prices... We live in texas, and the rents have been astronomical. It would be cheaper to make house payments. But, we can't save up enough for a down payment on a house, b/c houses are still god damn expensive and most of our money goes to bills, rent, student loans, etc.
/rant
Quebeker
Here in Montréal it’s expected to be 5,7-6%. It’s hight because of inflation cause by a 4% rent raise last year. Two years in a row with unseen raise in like 30 years.
mynamespaul
Just give them radio silence while you look for a new place. As you get closer to 30 days out you should be able to sign. If you can’t find a place sign with the old place again. They’ll be pissy but it is still less hassle to let you stay than finding new tenants.
nation543
I was gonna say, "That can't be legal," then I read, "We live in Texas," and ... oh. shit. sorry, OP.
Lassannn
I now live in mortal fear of my apartment complex doing this.
Apollymkatistrafia
We spent 2 weeks camping in my in-laws after a roommate flaked and we had to move, trying to get a new apartment was bullshit. Credit isn't 700? Kick rocks. Don't make 7k a month EACH? Eat shit.
FMC01
I still cant wrap my head around on why renters want a proof of stable income...like, even when I offered to pay year's rent in full, i was still refused. I got no job cuz i just graduated. I need a place so i can look for jobs!!
ArkoneAxon
My great grandfather was a landlord in Russia... before the Bolshevik revolution. When all the landlords were being lined up against a wall, one of his tenants pointed at him. "I know him. He's one of the good ones." So they let my great granddad jump in a river and swim to freedom.
Being a good person who showed basic decency towards his tenants saved his life. I wonder how many of the landlords in the U.S. these days would survive a similar experience?
greentights
I would say at least some of the multifamily ones where they live in one floor and rent out the other. You want to keep stable tenants who keep the place decent and pay on time more so than trying to go up in rent significantly each year
ambibot
I've just had to do stupid shit. Find a place before giving my notice and paying rent in 2 places for a month. Freaking sucks so much and that's why I'm poor forever. At least I had a month to move and clean.
jgrowley31337
Just bought a house because rent was going from 955 to 2500.
OverthinkingThis
Jeeeeeeesus Christ. What state?
jgrowley31337
PA
Chattafaukup
People dont think it be like it is. But it do.
thepicklebucket
It never don't =(
monkeyfly
The system working as intended.
DrFlukeHawkins
Apartments shouldn't be commercial real estate and should not be owned by anyone but a collective of the tenets
dirtcreature
This is called a coop and there are millions of them. A coop is a business. Each "owner" lives in the business owned building and owns shares of the property aka business
Tenugui
There are advantages and disadvantages. When the collective budgets poorly and every "renter/owner" is now subject to a $30,000 assessment for something like new siding, how many "owners" are sticking around? I've seen it happen many times in condos, but there are mechanisms in place under that framework.
WivvieGirl
If tenants cannot afford rent, how in the world can they all come up with the money to purchase the apartment building? And then RE taxes increase, utilities increase, labor rates increase, bookkeeping and tax accounts... Just not so simple as it sounds...
mijjit
Are you … not white?
KentKnifen
Gonna take a moment here to say how pleased I am with my apartment management. They advertised a discount, and honored it. Sideways are shoveled and parking lots plowed early before people leave for work. My water bill is fixed per month, I do the other utilities. Google reviews praise them for refunding deposits.
toogoodtomiss
Look for owner financing.
darkninja2992
Yep. My next monthly payment is going up $120. More than double what my last yearly raise was. And that was for a yearly lease. It'd be another $100 if i wanted to go monthly
bubblestarmetallica
My apartment conglomerate will only hold an apartment for one month, but requires two months notice to move out.
mrollings53
Why don't you rent the other unit in your complex if it's cheaper?
Khanamana324
Because there is no other unit, it's the same unit. The initial buy price is lower than what the current occupants rent is being raised to.
sadurdaynight
Even if unit existed, by the time we pack and pay movers we'd only break even. And still stuck at same place screwing us
allihearisnoise
Rent is dead money. I would rather buy and sell houses in the regular than ever have to pay someone else's mortgage again. The cheeky fucks who rely on private rental as money spinner are a parasite on humanities ass. Just cus it's not illegal doesn't make it right
ProfessorMuChao
Serious question: I spent a lot of time living in a college town. While I'd agree 100% that there are **many** shady, greedy landlords, not all are, & there is also a large population of students who only live in an area for 2-4 years and are definitely not just going to buy a house, pay to maintain it, and then sell it when they graduate. Dormitory housing is super-limited, and mainly for first-years, as the school does not want the hassle. I'm just curious what some alternatives would like.
Pokegeologist
I went through this end of year after three years. They were upping my rent by $180/mo unless I agreed to an 18 mo lease. Third murder at the complex and I was fucking done. Found out the unit was infested with toxic mold and the office got smashed up the last weekend I was moving. Also had all my patio furniture stolen. Oh well.
alisa2089
I hate this game so much. And I hate my landlord for calling my bluff as my disabled self came in extremely upset when they raised my rent over 25% in one year. :(
The only answer I have is unit hopping. If I hadn’t been so sick that’s what I was going to do to get a cheaper unit with a better view. That and not being at an apartment complex that uses RealPage; when my apartment switched managers and left RealPage rent prices plummeted.
hmijail
Same thing here in Australia.
torokunai
real estate is such a zero-sum game
Angyliqueone
Not just apartments. Anything for rent now.
Sargonas
To them it's all the same. If you move out and they get someone else, they get the same money either way, plus move in fees, and the bits of your deposit they can argue to keep. In the end its all the same and what TINY bit of work they might have to do swapping tenants is easily covered by the small margins of the above. They aren't the ones packing and moving, it's zero skin off their back.
ArchonIlladrya
Look into a USDA loan. It's what my wife and I did for our house. It has to be rural, but it doesn't require a down payment.
sadurdaynight
Wife is healthcare and works inner city. Trying to cut down on her commute.
Meowmix138
FHA is 3%. I paid $6k to buy a house.
ArchonIlladrya
And I paid $0. For people who can't afford a down payment, this is an option.
Nalianna
I just moved downstairs. - layout is identical, kitchen below my previous kitchen, etc. feels weird. - my rental periods overlapped by 1 day
Nalianna
So, just dropped things off the balcony to move house. - Same real estate company.
Meowmix138
FHA, USDA Loans are the way to go. Typically 3% down, try to find something where the seller pays the commission. Total cost to purchase my home in SWFL With an FHA- $6k 3BR/2Bath had a pool when we moved in but Hurricane Ian ruined that. I pay $1200mth for my mortgage. Get out of renting.
Meowmix138
I have Home owners insurance @ $3200 a year and Flood insurance @ $950 a year. I don't live in a Flood zone, I carry it for my own well being.
DarthTasty
Landlords should be abolished. It's 2025 not 1625, no "job" should have the word Lord in it anymore.
ForceAwakenWasLame
Memelord ok
TinyOctopus
As a fellow American, have you tried just burning the rental company down?
mechanerd
basiccricket8444
We need to figure out the rental union thing some places have. Seems genius
DrDadJokes
ImmaCatImmaSexyCat
Burn everything.
CurbYourClassWar
Try this one simple trick
KYGELL91
Be the change you want to see in the world
Humputse
Let there be light!
Trankia12
Zoroasterisk
It's been forever since I've watched this. Thanks for reminding me to
Skywatcher16
remember to leave some kind of "deny defend depose" tag somewhere nearby. perhaps spray painted to the lawn. make the message clear.
Rogahar
Better yet - obfuscate by organizing an 'official' complaint, like a petition signed by neighbors in the same situation. After all, what kind of maniac would protest 'properly' *and* throw a firebomb through their office window at 2am (after verifying that neither security nor maintenance were in the building, since they are our working class brothers and sisters and do not deserve to suffer the wrath owed their masters)?
evilspock
This! Buildings burn. Sometimes it's even an accident.
ShrokNil
When oligarch infrastructure burns it's always an accident *wink wink*
TinyOctopus
SacrificialClam
If you get caught, at least you'll get free housing and a hot meal
Tjitso
And a job
Weblord
Not to mention all the sex
Gayforbae
That doesn't really happen.
Trankia12
The neighbors aren’t very nice though.
lelindepage
Ehhh... Have you had much experience with American prisons lately? Packed in together "like sardines" (my relative said), with awful food..
rshini
for some folks that's still a step up from the streets, especially if you get winter
Kehy
If someone without housing commits a non-violent crime to get food and shelter i really don't blame them
CythrawlArawn
I concur. Reminded of a story I heard when I was a kid about a homeless man who asked if he could sleep in a cell on a freezing night. Nope, turned away. Threw a rock through a police card window, walked back in, admitted what he'd done, and asked again. The cops replied, "Yep, come on back."
And that's my problem with society. It would have cost the system, government, taxpayers LESS to give that man a warm bed for the night. But that doesn't "breed innovation or "increase market share."
DrSchlepenstein
Been through this twice in 3 years. Except each time landlords decided to not renew so that they could renovate the apt and then jack up the rent. Both times when I was looking, 90% of complexes I called said they wouldn't have any availability until spring (I had to be out at the end of Oct), those that did it was a "right now" move in and not 2 months down the road and the current apt wouldn't let me end the lease early so had to pay an extra months rent to a place I wasn't living in.
sadurdaynight
I think wife and i are gonna get stuck doing that. We noticed places are getting snatched up.
DrSchlepenstein
My job allows me to cash out PTO, so I did in order to pay the double rent and moving expenses. Each time I moved I downsized and yet the rent isn't much different. 1st apt I was paying $900 for 2 bed 2 bath 952 sqft, got renovicted, its now $1800 3 years later. 2nd apt I was paying $1170 for a 1 bed 1 bath 725 sqft, its now $1400. Current apt is a 1 bed 1 bath 500 sqft for $1040, plus I had to get a storage unit which is $75 a month. If it didn't get so cold here, i'd just live in my car.
eldorel
My wife and I ended up doing something similar when we bought our house.
eldorel
It was actually cheaper for us to move to a place that allowed 3 month leases and pay an extra month's rent than it was to go month to month
eldorel
We also ended up saving almost $2,000 in moving fees/boxes truck rental by being able to move everything ourselves over a couple of weeks.
Homosexualsaregay
So even if your lease is up you still have to give 60 days notice?
sadurdaynight
Yup. They give us a new lease about 15 days before we have to do the 60 day move out notice. Have to either sign or give a move out notice. We shopped around for places and nobody would say what's abailabel later. The rental market lately is "we don't even know what the prices will be tomorrow, bc it flictuates daily". It's all funneled through realpage that allows seperate rental companies to legally collude on price fixing.
eldorel
If prices are going up that quickly, you might come out with more money to sign and eat the extra rent for the overlap. (1/*)
eldorel
You can save money on truck, rental, movers boxes, etc not having to move in a day or 2; and you can do more to get your deposit back (2/*)
eldorel
And that lets you avoid ~2 months worth of price increases because it takes the new place a time to run credit checks and paperwork.