softspokensatan
93916
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those who don't know roman numerals are I, II, III, IV so on
Arabic numerals are things like 1,2,3,4
we need a new plague. the last one didn't kill enough stupid people.
lionfury
Maybe they should rather teach that 1 2 3 4 IS Arabic numerals.
nullbr
I, for one, like roman numerals
zerogiven
Our schools are openly disseminating weapons of math instruction!
FlyingGiantElk
Ban Arabic numerals in schools. They should learn to count in binary instead. Why? Because fuck ‘em, that’s why.
RooGryphon
After binary teach them hex and machine code
Redacted197358462
They don't know what "Arabic numerals" means. I'm so much smarter than them. /s
desmos55
Well... learned something new 😅
Onebigcanuck
Used to work in a warehouse and marked stretch wrapped pallets with Roman numerals because it was easier. Coworkers would complain that they wanted English numbers. Got super upset when I explained there weren't any English numbers.
Fabulously
Who said education was wasted….
youreathing
Wait until they hear about algebra.
nccomputermechanics4
Yes get that algebra out of our schools, we don't need need no algorithms /s
FaecalJacksonPollock
Psh, who needs numbers? If you can't count it on your fingers, it's too big anyway! And don't even get me started on "zero"!
MediocreExtremist
At least they didn't have that in Roman times !
nomnamless
I don't think I have ever heard it called Arabic numerals. This feels like one of those times where they use an uncommon word to a very common thing and then point and laugh at how stupid people are. Everyone has a phone on them. It shouldn't be that hard to Google something if you don't understand it to learn. That's what people should be doing, learning about it before voting on it
jt42
Your epidermis is showing!
XRay0976
we need a new plague. the last one didn't kill enough stupid people.
To be fair, Trump tried
ballsoutflyer
Yup. Instead of a bad cough and feeling like a truck hit you, it should have been anal bleeding, diarrhea, and pustules with death after seven days.
gusost
The last plague did not target stupid people...
Monocular0
Not knowing the technical term for something does not make people stupid (or racist, for that matter, since that’s the implication here). If you asked people if kids in the US should be learning the Latin alphabet, you’d probably get the exact same results, not because Americans are racist against Romans, but because it sounds like something irrelevant to the basic skills students need to master.
thanzanier
The fact that you have to describe what each number system is in your post description goes to show how uncommon the names are.
If the poll posted had the same description, what do you think the results would be?
TheOtherLucas
This is the I time I see this and despite this fact, I am utterly unsurprised, if it is true. The entire planet recognizes that the American modern education system basically doesn't exist.
wetqueef
I used to call them aerobic numerals in grade school.
Stuey1221
I made a post on Facebook saying that all bacon was going to be halal once. The amount of fucking morons I had on my friends list was astounding
MediocreExtremist
Could you explain to my friend? He knows the word halal but doesn't now the meaning or understand your statement
hippyneil
Halal is the Islamic version of kosher. Muslims don't eat pork. Therefore bacon cannot be halal (allowed).
baconandmorebacon
I'm not sure if I understand that FB post. Were you threatening them with non-pig bacon?
irrational1618
Please stop the stupidity!
ArcanisTheOmnipotent
To be honest most kids have at least a basic grasp of Arabic numerals before they get to school. The manipulation of the numerals through mathematics is what is important to teach.
LoftheDesert
More importantly Arabic numerals gave us 0.
levyathyn
That's nothing
softspokensatan
without 0 how would i be able to tell people how many fucks i give. its literally life changing.
Jetthix
With a nice song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vqbk9cDX0l0
AllMyPain
Wasn't that the Mayans?
HootSloot
Independently but yes
YesPleaseSomeMore
Well the name at least. Zero is "sifr" in Arabic, which gave the french "chiffre" and then "cypher"...
AtsaMattaForMe
ballsoutflyer
"Check it out, I'm doing math! The result will blow you away."
Jetthix
Misteree8
taez555
CanadianOneDollarCoin
I’m in a Dr’s office and this made me blow air forcefully out of my nose holes.
GoodGuyGonzo
٩ ٨ ٧ ٦ ٥ ٤ ٣ ٢ ١ ۰
mham7611
Those are the Hindu Arabic numerals
jt42
A+
EaNasirIsABastard
We don't actually use arabic numerals. There was a "western arabic numeral" set that was like ours (not exactly) in 8 of the digits, the one we use was changed a bit in Europe in the 16th century. But the base 10 system was developed in India. If anyone gets the credit it should be them.
softspokensatan
all things change. totally valid but i didn't know that india was first to develop base 10 math, thats awesome!!!
jt42
Came down to the bottom to find the educated posts, once again.
MaybeIllDisappear
Interestingly the Arabic language uses a different (but similar) set of digits.
MediocreExtremist
isn't "similar" a bit far fetched?
MaybeIllDisappear
It's base 10 and the symbols are similar in style to Western Arabic numbers. It's clear that both number digits evolved from a similar system.
hovelhopper
What does a 0 look like? The dot in the 10?
cousteau
Yes, zero is a dot. And 5 is a 0.
MaybeIllDisappear
S33KER
9 is 9, but 6 is 7 and 0 is 5... Damn they shuffled it.
nangke
Oh, *Arabic* Arabic numerals
SwordOfAlabastor
This brings me back to the year I lived in Bahrain. 4 and 5 always messed with me
cousteau
Not too similar (except for 1 and 9), but interestingly the same system. They even write them in the same order as us, with the highest on the left and the lowest on the right, despite otherwise writing right to left.
DougTheLlama
Yeah, I believe 1,2,3,4 are indo arabic numerals, not just arabic
RootMeanSqr
That makes it worse. /s
mercure
It was called Arabic because European copied on them. The concept originally came from India. Arabic people don't event use the "European" symbol. It's just confusing.
CogentMoment
This is the XII time I've seen this
tantallous
but is it your XV favorite?
madvin
Terrorist!!
BeaverOnFire
OverlyConfidentIndianMan
Ive said itMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM Times
OverlyConfidentIndianMan
And I will say it MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM times over
Rosfmmmhzdrozzley
You're a good person, staying away from those evil Arabic characters. Some text is bad and scary
DougTheLlama
A Roma walks into a bar, holds up 2 fingers and says "five beers please"
S33KER
Roman, I guess? :D
bildschoen
Yes, Roma would be a gypsy (Romani person.)
DiscoveredByTheGermansIn1904
What have the Arabs ever done for us…?!
bardman135
I'd like to see this count reduced to
ProjectDA
ever tried dividing with them? fuck that complicated shit!
WrongUn
What's the King of China got to do with this?
5minutekebab
Actual Arabic numbers..
Frederf
If I had a V for every time this happened I'd have II Vs which isn't a lot but crazy that it happened IIce, right?
itsanuglyplanetabugplanet
I'm at IIIL
MajorasTerribleFate
I'm now curious how Romans would write this as an ordinal number (twelfth) instead of a cardinal one (twelve).
theios84
They add dot after the number, if I'm not mistaken
KittensGivePaarthurnaxGas
XIIth
InconspicuousLampshade
That's confusing. Why not just say you've seen it 0xC times like a normal person?
Godbear91
There is no such thing as "0" with roman numerals, otherwise a decent joke.
DSREX
01110100 01110010 01111001 00100000 01100011 01101111 01110101 01101110 01110100 01101001 01101110 01100111 00100000 01101001 01101110 00100000 01100010 01101001 01101110 01100001 01110010 01111001 00100000 01100110 01101111 01110010 00100000 01100001 00100000 01100011 01101000 01100001 01101110 01100111 01100101 00001010
binekarlsson360
Help ..?
InconspicuousLampshade
"try counting in binary for a change".... so 1100. Maybe you're referencing Rogue VI's dying message? 01001000 01000101 01001100 01010000?
binekarlsson360
Truth be told, I do not know how to count binary-style. I am but a humble teacher of German and English in Sweden.
ProfessorDumbass
I don't want to google but some comment last time said Arabic numbers were made by Hittites or Sumerians ?? Meh ...but they used them so they became Arabic numbers. Like kiwi fruits originated in China
MajorasTerribleFate
Australian shepherd are, apparently, American.
ProfessorDumbass
My uncle has a sheep farm...I am sure he is Australian
onlyhalfghost
well he's not from the British Isles or it'd be a sheep brothel.
KittensGivePaarthurnaxGas
Indian mathematicians in the 4th century, according to Wikipedia.
MediocreExtremist
I would like to see them teach algabra with roman numerals.That's gonna hurt.
(the word algabra is from arabic too)
theios84
I once studied how to add and multiply Roman numerals... No wonder the Roman empire collapsed as multiplying XXIV by VIII is really hard.
MediocreExtremist
I wouldn't even know how to begin.
Were there techniques or 'algoritms' to do that? Like we do/teach long divisions these days?
theios84
Yes there are.... Of course I forgot how to this, but quick search through the modern encyclopedia yields this, for example: https://www.smartick.com/blog/mathematics/addition-and-subtraction/roman-numerals-add/
MediocreExtremist
thanks :-) Interesting read. But it seems that addition is the simple example.
I watched https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1oLDG_Zeag
RoboUnicornFishBalls
This is the 111 time I've seen this reply
jokexplainer
NHS Service (uk)
atoyot
7th?
iamarealuser
Don't bring your algebra here
canyouflyyousucker
You Arabic
WhyDontYouMakeMe
I've seen my reply this many times
irrational1618
Found the arab!
LeroyShabazAli
These comments are a solid V/VII
HandoB4Javert
LeroyShabazAli
Sanskrit88
PcJunky
Perfect score!
Grimmrog
this smells binary
RoboUnicornFishBalls
Athanar
Technically it works in any system. For example, in Octal (base 8), that's 73 to what we normally use (decimal, base 10). In hexadecimal, it's 273.
Mmbear
BOT!!! I’ll be damned if i’ll let them teach binary to my children. We are a hexadecimal only family.
vegivamp
111 is perfectly valid hex. People just complain about random numbers being in the "wrong base" without even understanding what they're talking about, smh.
RoboUnicornFishBalls
Sorry, 0x7
Mmbear
Thanks.
somewhatparanoidpanda
Is this that “non-binary” thing conservatives are so afraid of?
OriginalAndWitty
We also need to ban dihydrogen monoxide. Every single person that's ever consumed it has died.
robofuck
Have you heard about Hydroxic Acid?
copperdomebodhi
This was funny when it was a "learn more science" joke. Now, it's an, "Ignore scientists, they're all Chicken Little," joke.
SlickWithaLimerick
And end women's suffrage! Haven't they suffraged enough!?
BaconAlmighty
But it has what plants crave.
mclovinDnimal
Electrolytes?
reverendbonobo
Not yet.
JohnnyLawlessEsq
It's *hydrogen hydroxide.*
jaysjunkymail11
I started consuming 5 to 6 liters of it daily and reduced my caloric intake. I'm down 7 pounds in three weeks!
RunawaySpoons
It has a higher pH than any acid!
BubblesTheFish
D:
softspokensatan
Hitler loved dihydrogen monoxide. he consumed it almost daily.
DarkVex9
Dihydrogen monoxide causes billions of dollars worth of property and crop damage each year. How can people ignore that‽
It accelerates corrosion of many metals, is a key ingredient in acid rain, is used as an industrial solvent, and is used in nuclear power plants, yet it is not banned, restricted, or even labeled as dangerous!
MediocreExtremist
Well, they did start inflating it price
fantabuloustimewaster
Some of us haven't died yet, but the eventual mortality is 100%.
threepotatoesinatrenchcoat
Speak for yourself, bucko
TheMouseOfMadness
arabic numbers? next they'll be teaching Al Jebra
ALLCAPSROCK
I spit my pizza out through my nose...
owe
hetnkik999
Had to hit back to upvote this as I read it while changing pages. You're welcome.
rbudrick
tbf, Al Jebra terrorized me in school.
CanadianOneDollarCoin
LittleDragon
I am tutoring a coworker in Al Jebra. He has no idea the evil he has signed himself up for.
mikecaa
I was helping out in a kindergarten class at a montessori school because one of the teachers was in an automobile accident. I told one of the parents we were introducing Arabic numerals and they took their kid out of the class and I ended up in the principal's office helping her google Arabic numbers. 1) People need to know more! 2) The fact that something came from the middle east does not make it bad. 3) Christians fear other religions. That's not what the bible says on the matter.
TychoTychoAlba
I mean the bible absolutely says 3).
FuManLu
Christians fear other religions because they know what they did to other religions
cluelessatdis3
Who is gonna tell them Jesus and christianity is also middle eastern?
Iggythemushroom
They gave us algebra too I think. Smarts
ellivenob4272000
Wow how did that kind of person end up schooling their kid at Montessori? All compliments to Montessori for sure tho.
ellivenob4272000
Is this bait?
Type17
Re: 2) - now that you mention it, the bible came from the Middle East...
Tjitso
Yeah, but then Nicolas Cage stole it
LetsEatGrandpaCommasSaveLives
Right, where all the white people live. We know this
JS87
Trollero
Wait until they find out where Jesus was born
StarwarsGuy
They wrong on the when, and we still question the how. Asking the where seems lost now.
pm1001
Even though Muslims worship the same god as them and see Jesus as a prophet
thedudeman519
Seriously . I tried explaining to someone that "Allah" is literally just the Arabic word for "God" an that Arab Christians also worship "Allah" . The denial is real.
zookeeBandit
I casually mentioned that Jews, Christian’s and Muslims all worship the same god to a devoted Muslim friend and it took him by surprise. Not sure everyone realizes that despite it being true. Seems odd to me because that should unite people..but we are all just dumb animals.
pm1001
The sultan of the Ottoman empire traced his ancestry back to Noah to prove his divine right to rule
quadraspaz1
Yes but Jews believe that they have the original true version. Christians think that the old testament is only half of the story and Muslims believe that God decided to write it again because people didn't understand him the first time
AsheLake
Even though American Christians don't seem to care too much for the New Testament. Too "woke," (or weak?) according to some.
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MrsHowVeryDareYou
Montessori is pretty specific with proper names for stuff. The one my daughter went to wouldn’t even use nicknames for the children. Her old friends from Montessori still call her by her government name even though no one else does. (It’s actually very cute, as long as it’s not a dead-naming situation)
thedudeman519
To differentiate from "Roman Numerals".
TacoPoweredHelicopter
It's the correct term.... Numbers are extremely vague.
QuiteBitterBeing
It's bait for idiots.
Ughffs
Maybe the one where they were educating kids on facts. Lol 😆
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TacoPoweredHelicopter
They told the parent arabic numerals.... Not the 6 year old. Are you a moron?
MrStealUrMeme
Also, what would be so terrible telling 6 year olds what the numbers they learned are called?
TheCapnJoe
Because you can introduce the concept of numbers to a child without introducing their written form. Teaching a kid numbers could mean "you have three blocks" but teaching a kid Arabic numerals means "three looks like this: 3"
FullMetalJackass
But it’s what they’re called. What else would you say, just “numbers?” I guess.
HardCorvallis
Freedom Numbers
Ryebread91
Numbers. Any teacher would just say numbers. Just like we'd say letters or working on the alphabet.
FullMetalJackass
I suppose you are correct. Logical. However, I would enjoy freaking out the MAGAs and making them realize that Arabs also contributed something of great value to the world. Just because.
Ryebread91
Oh I understand. There's just ultimately no reason for an instructor to phrase it as such. Sounds pretentious.
TacoPoweredHelicopter
Numbers and counting can be done without text, explaining to a parent arabic numerals let's the parent know exactly what's happening in class.
Ryebread91
If you told anyone "we're working on our numbers now in class" how many are NOT gonna think 1,2,3...?
MrStealUrMeme
And those teachers just passed up a chance to teach their students what those numbers you see are actually called. Thus stopping ignorant responses to hearing the term Arabic numbers as an adult
Ryebread91
You can and absolutely should teach your students that but to put on the curriculum wouldn't even be needed. Because literally they are just that to us in this day and age . Numbers. Granted the parents are morons and raising a stink over fear.
Hyzenthlay021
If you actually take a look at the survey, you'll see that it was specifically designed to engage people's' preconceptions. They zinged the left as well as the right, and boy didn't I take flak the last time this was posted here for pointing out that the survey showed the left was just as susceptible to manipulation as anyone else.
2old4
Cool. Are you related to Mr Macaroni Fork?
LinguisticBitch
And yet the right hates everything they don't understand.
Thornaxe
That. Was. The. Point. Surveys are as reliable as their wording. Probably even less so.
TacoPoweredHelicopter
There was no mention of right vs left... Anywhere. Wtf are you talking about?
CheeseB0t
There is no left in America. Americans need to stfu about the 'left' cos you don't fuckin have one.
PlanckEraWasMyBestEra
We still have a left that is left of where our center is, even if that center is much more Right than it is in many countries (and less so than some countries). Just because it's different, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. And there is also Far Left (what I consider myself) that believes in the same things Left means in other countries and we don't just not exist because our country means heavily Conservative, so no we won't shut up about our existence or about our uphill battle in this country.
LisaSimps0nsDr3aM
You really suck to make this left-vs-right political …
SindarElla
Right?? No one said anything about right vs left.
Heavenissize17socks
Preconceptions *need* to be challenged. But saying the Left is just as susceptible is hogwash. The left asks for sources, the right -refuses to accept them-.
RMWX
I’m gonna need a source for that.
nopo
I know plenty of people on the left who will just as vehemently deny sources.
normalityimpaired
Those same kind people downvoted you to the negatives. All you did was state a personal truth.
Heavenissize17socks
Hyzenthlay021
Something like the people here who are convinced this was a "twitter" survey? And not one person in this thread bothered to question the data. Everyone accepted it at face value, because of course we "know" who those stupid people are. Just like the last time it was posted. I wonder if anyone responding here even bothered to look at the source. But why should they? They "know" they're right.
CheeseB0t
It's true tho, at least according to snopes
Heavenissize17socks
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/arabic-numerals-survey-prejudice-bias-survey-research-civic-science-a8918256.html
Heavenissize17socks
Jarjarthejedi
1. I don't see a single comment here (outside of the negatives, which I didn't check) claiming it's a twitter survey. 2. Most people probably didn't bother to question it /because it's old and has been questioned multiple times in the past/. I really wonder what part of "a survey company posed this question and this is the legit response they got" you think makes those accepting it stupid...
Jarjarthejedi
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/teaching-arabic-numerals/
jt42
Which ones? If you say Arabic, of course you would assume Eastern, otherwise the term is "numbers" or "numerals". Saying "Arabic" is trolling.
Cable85
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_numerals
jt42
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_numerals_(disambiguation)
cousteau
If you need the disambiguation page to get the other meaning, and the default is Western Arabic, then that means that the normal assumption is Western, not Eastern.
TacoPoweredHelicopter
You're just wrong? Maybe just admit that and move on.
cousteau
Your expectations from people on the internet are weird.