I was just sent a baby picture from an estranged parent and holy SHIT was I an ugly baby. I already thing babies are gross but damn did I take the cake
No, you haven't. You've probably seen cute toddlers, which is the minimum age a child can be cute. If they've taken their first steps, they dont count as baby anymore. Before that they are wrinkly meat potatoes and only relatives find them cute.
And if you are in the minority that finds actual babies cute, then your definition of "cute" is so overbroad as to be an unreliable measure. Probably find pugs, chihuahuas, and hairless cats cute too don't ya?
-- 1. Chill out dude 2. No? Not every one of those things you've mentioned are cute. And I've seen 2 infants days after being born that were cute. I've seen many more infants than that. 3. I said "some" for a reason. Not "most" not "many" not "a lot".
Just tryina get the vitriol out there so people stop trying to show unsolicited baby pics of their spuds. I have nieces I do think are adorable. But that's a blood relation instinct response.
I mean, like, many people do? You don't and that's fine, and I guess many people who use Imgur seem to hate children for some reason, but there are people who care about babies?
I know you're being downvoted but there's 300 million on imgur and 8 billion worldwide. Having a family is still more popular than not having a family even if that's not shown on this little bitty website full of single ppl.
Honeslty its more the language I find an issue. Like it goes beyond "we don't want kids" and into "kids are repulsive crotch goblins" which is just so unnecessarily hateful, you know?
Oh we care about children's education, health, safety, acceptance and not getting shot in schools. But we just don't want to have kids for ourselves. Kids are a lot of work and a lot of money and we would like to hold on to what sliver of sanity we MIGHT have left.
Thats fine, I fully support anyones decision to have or not have kids. But... like... look at this thread. Look at the mentality. How people even talk about kids. Dehumanising and insulting, like their very existence is repulsive. Its... just wierd
I said something similar when my brother announced they were “trying to conceive” and I respond with: “ so lots of raw dogging and cream pies? Nice, congrats on the sex”
I mean, the timing matters. There's no real investment in the "we decided to try" announcement (which is weird), and the joke works. Announcing a pregnancy is a pretty big deal and you essentially told your sister to go fuck herself.
I… I really can’t tell if y’all are joking about human infants = yuck. They are biologically designed to be so cute that we don’t just leave them in a ditch because they’re so hard to care for. Is this an Edge Lord thing? Or I’m just not getting the joke?
Some babies are very cute, but if I were given the option of holding, or even looking at a picture of a human baby vs a cat/dog, I would 100% go for the cat/dog every time.
Evolutionarily speaking not everyone needs to be a mother or father for the species to survive, being an uncle, aunt or family friend benefits the survival of the species as a whole as well.
Don't sweat it. Some people aren't meant to be parents, is all. For those of us who were lucky enough to become parents, we know what they've missed. And honestly, parenting is difficult. You have to sacrifice a lot. So, for them to talk about a cultural disdain for kids is understandable... but sad. Kids are awesome.
Can say the same from the other side though, alot in my friend group have kids, alot dont and so many adventures, the people with kids miss out on due to parental obligations. People are different and have different likes and dislikes
I dunno I'm terrified of holding them for fear I'll drop it on its head. Literally similar to when I'm working with high voltage (engineer), my body's reaction is to have to urinate and I'll need to go relieve myself.
I will always remember that time the only other woman at the guild meet-up handed me her baby saying "there, you're a girl, you know how to hold these and that they won't break" and I was like ???
it helps if you just remember imgur hates kids. I think it's part hypercorrection in the face of pressure to have kids, part exaggeration of the preference to be child-free, and part edgelord nonsense.
Pretty sure my wiring got messed up somewhere, but no, I don't find most babies to be cute. Occasionally there is a cute one, or one doing cute things, but I have no natural anything that makes me want to love or care for it any more than any other sentient creature. Not sure if it's because I dont want kids, or if that's part of why I don't want them.
Edge lord thing for young people and people who think they are young. Most people like kids or at least babies. Otherwise millions of people wouldn't work in daycare, teachers, pediatrics, children's theater, etc.
Some of us have never wanted kids and never thought they were cute. Idk what to tell you. Not everybody's the same. Humans were "biologically designed" to have straight sex too, but it turns out a lot of humans aren't into that either.
As @InfinitumD mentioned, the wiring of a human changes after becoming a parent. To add to that, however, there is also evidence of human's having more disgust with babies unrelated to them. This makes sense from a biological viewpoint and can be seen in other animals. They aren't cute; they're future competitors for your genes.
I mean I’m sure for some it’s serious but I think it’s more of a “I’m a person who does not want kids, isn’t interested in kids” kind of thing. I’ll make a goofy faces or smile at a baby out in public. But I do have and love dogs so I’m always excited about seeing them. I’m not going to go out of my way to ask a parent about their baby.
People are wired differently and not always logically. Human babies being ugly/nasty is an extremely common sentiment, just usually not about your own.
That's not been my experience. Going out in public with a newborn was like being a minor celebrity. Literally couldn't walk anywhere without being stopped by people wanting to just stare. Even people that didn't stop us would rubberneck to catch a view of her and even follow us a little. It was genuinely overwhelming.
I birthed one and had so much Post Partum Depression for so long that I stopped there. But I always have and always will want to see/hold your human baby.
I think the subject of having babies is complicated for a lot of reasons (including the aforementioned edge lord status, for those individuals) and for those that don't want or can't have, or probably both combined, it's a defense mechanism to call them ugly. And here's the thing: babies, especially newborns, really are ugly. Also, some people are just unmitigated assholes. As a father of three, I try not to show pictures without being asked but I want to see pictures of other people's kids!
Yes. I love looking at and smiling at toddlers. So very cute. I think new born infants are incredibly ugly. Not their fault, they are underdeveloped at birth so they can fit through the birth canal.
I think it because not having kids is very normal now. Where it was not normal when I was growing up. That normalization has shifted to kid-antagonist. It’s not the kids fault. Also. I was in ugly baby!
I've definitely noticed an uptick in people being antagonistic at others for choosing to have kids, which is wild. Like, yeah, the whole "When are you having kids?" thing from in-laws and parents and shit has and always will be fucking annoying, but so is seeing people acting like having kids is the worst mistake someone could ever make, or worse yet, somehow actively a malicious choice?
Some people might find them cute, and that's their right. I personally don't understand why anybody would want to fuck up their bodies and lives just to have one
Idk it didn't fuck up my body or life. I think the internet just likes to circulate the worst most dramatic stories surrounding motherhood and treat it like universal truth. Literally most of what I hear about motherhood from the internet reads more like gleeful torture porn that anything resembling my real life experience
Speak for yourself. My pregnancy kicked off a very painful autoimmune disease and a bunch of new and annoying allergies. Now I get to inject myself bi-monthly with immune suppressants and hope my kid doesn't bring something home from school that has the potential to hospitalize or kill me.
I kind of think you just proved my point. Not anywhere on the internet can one talk about their completely mundane pregnancy and birth experience without someone busting in to talk about how pregnancy made their tits fall off or something. The internet tends to amplify and circulate extreme edge cases while diminishing and even shaming anyone who dares to share their story about how everything went fine and nothing bad happened
I think most women have dealt with a lifetime of the "it's normal and natural, it's what you were made for and it's beautiful" bs. I got that from my MIL, husband, and 3 different doctors and it took me 5 years to get a diagnosis. I speak for myself, but also for the other women who are being treated like they are nuts for speaking out as if they don't know their own body. Research shows that the issues women face around pregnancy and aftercare are minimized by the medical world.
Having seen lots of babies, they're disgusting and loud. Not even remotely cute. Apparently becoming a parent actually alters your brain chemicals to make you like them
It's pretty common for parents to just not feel much for their infants except recognizing they now have a fragile screaming plant in their house. They learn to love them eventually once they get a little older and start forming an actual personality to connect with, but until then babies are kept alive through a sense of obligation.
My son was hideous when he was born. Like if a monkey and an avocado made a baby. People would do the "ah cute baby..." thing yet my friends were honest AF about his looks. He grew into a gorgeous 6'5" water polo player, but no, not all babies start out "adorable" and yes, I love him as much day one as 28 years later.
Thank you for being honest. New borns, in my opinion, are almost always ugly. They are necessarily underdeveloped so they can still fit through the birth canal. Actually, a lot of new borns are ugly…Many baby birds fur example. Then there are the baby sea turtles that are cute as a button or baby giraffes. I think these examples are more attractive because they are further along in development
Bro, not my friend's baby. Big ol' head. And what was that statistic I read? Like 70% of women have their taint either cut or it rips on their own? That's a hard pass for me.
itzu2jones31415
Ops
TrustMeIWouldntLie
I prefer "human larvae"
nekuth
I agree, pets over babies
ByronGetronfree
Fur babies and skin dogs help to distinguish the two.
Durahl
IKR... I'd never bother asking about some other person's Kid but a pet Animal? Any day of the week 😏
Vendict0
Best descriptor I've ever heard. Everyone was calling their dogs fur babies, and the person called their kids their skin puppies.
IDownvoteKhaby
"Nobody wants to see your baby!" (Uses an example of someone else literally wanting to see their baby)
endomorph
Good point! Hadn't and wouldn't've thought about it this way. "Thx 4 the food," (says my brain).
Eypisod
*those cute babies
JesusToldMe
*cute puppies
SilkStockingFullOfShit
Your boss covered well. Parents are the only ones that don't realise that no-one actually wants to meet the semen they chose to keep as a pet.
BrdCdn
Bitter much?
kikichunt
Eeeugh - human infants . . .
Psychobeanz
Mother here. Show me the dog instead
DumpleDog
enheru
Human infants aren't even cute.
basiccricket8444
I had an infant and you are 100% correct. They're like grubs
murderhobbit
I've seen some very cute babies, tbh
feryooday
I was just sent a baby picture from an estranged parent and holy SHIT was I an ugly baby. I already thing babies are gross but damn did I take the cake
lostinthoughts
But those are few and most of the times, they are not.
murderhobbit
You are very right haha
Maverickaura
No, you haven't. You've probably seen cute toddlers, which is the minimum age a child can be cute. If they've taken their first steps, they dont count as baby anymore. Before that they are wrinkly meat potatoes and only relatives find them cute.
Maverickaura
And if you are in the minority that finds actual babies cute, then your definition of "cute" is so overbroad as to be an unreliable measure. Probably find pugs, chihuahuas, and hairless cats cute too don't ya?
murderhobbit
--
1. Chill out dude
2. No? Not every one of those things you've mentioned are cute. And I've seen 2 infants days after being born that were cute. I've seen many more infants than that.
3. I said "some" for a reason. Not "most" not "many" not "a lot".
Maverickaura
Just tryina get the vitriol out there so people stop trying to show unsolicited baby pics of their spuds. I have nieces I do think are adorable. But that's a blood relation instinct response.
MrHappySmiles
No one gives a shit about human infants…
IDownvoteKhaby
You don't, and that's fine. But some other people do, which is also fine.
xXxX66SICKXxXx
Boooo! get that baby the fuck out of here I want to see that Doggo!
ILike2TouchButts
Yeah... because they turn into adult infants.
normalushall5
I do. At least the one I helped make.
KrondorMocker
SirRichardOfHead
KellyanneConwayTwitty
You are a good person
zerogiven
Especially the literal ones. Those are the worst.
ReallyFastSloth
Other new moms maybe, also older moms
HandoB4Javert
hiyesthisissatan
Am I the only one around here that doesn't give a shit about other people's pets?
SilverFoxChaser
*once they're born.
F4ndango
They’re just going to grow up to be people. And you know how people can be.
opentokix
100% fact statement right here
DionysianMask
It's why i donate to planned parenthood
3Davideo
Human infants give lots of shits. Honestly one of the biggest drawbacks.
randomguy342
I mean, like, many people do? You don't and that's fine, and I guess many people who use Imgur seem to hate children for some reason, but there are people who care about babies?
arp271
I know you're being downvoted but there's 300 million on imgur and 8 billion worldwide. Having a family is still more popular than not having a family even if that's not shown on this little bitty website full of single ppl.
randomguy342
Honeslty its more the language I find an issue. Like it goes beyond "we don't want kids" and into "kids are repulsive crotch goblins" which is just so unnecessarily hateful, you know?
AliceAndRabbit
Oh we care about children's education, health, safety, acceptance and not getting shot in schools. But we just don't want to have kids for ourselves. Kids are a lot of work and a lot of money and we would like to hold on to what sliver of sanity we MIGHT have left.
randomguy342
Thats fine, I fully support anyones decision to have or not have kids. But... like... look at this thread. Look at the mentality. How people even talk about kids. Dehumanising and insulting, like their very existence is repulsive. Its... just wierd
SlightChungus
My sister and her husband told us she was preggers and I said eww you let him just raw dog you. Anyway I apparently ruined dinner that day.
xXxX66SICKXxXx
I said something similar when my brother announced they were “trying to conceive” and I respond with: “ so lots of raw dogging and cream pies? Nice, congrats on the sex”
SlightChungus
Fuckin baby makers chucking downvotes
xXxX66SICKXxXx
Don’t worry bud I’ll give ya an upvote lol
JCBalance
I mean, the timing matters. There's no real investment in the "we decided to try" announcement (which is weird), and the joke works. Announcing a pregnancy is a pretty big deal and you essentially told your sister to go fuck herself.
insertwittyjoke
That's proposing at someone else's wedding level of social fuck up
MrsHowVeryDareYou
I… I really can’t tell if y’all are joking about human infants = yuck. They are biologically designed to be so cute that we don’t just leave them in a ditch because they’re so hard to care for. Is this an Edge Lord thing? Or I’m just not getting the joke?
VentricularAnomaly
Some babies are very cute, but if I were given the option of holding, or even looking at a picture of a human baby vs a cat/dog, I would 100% go for the cat/dog every time.
Keairan
Newborns are kinda fugly, but 3 month+ are adorable unless they're having a meltdown.
florpglorp
Evolutionarily speaking not everyone needs to be a mother or father for the species to survive, being an uncle, aunt or family friend benefits the survival of the species as a whole as well.
endomorph
That's a great point! Thank you, I will try to incorporate that into how I view myself and things.
christophersouthworth
Don't sweat it. Some people aren't meant to be parents, is all. For those of us who were lucky enough to become parents, we know what they've missed. And honestly, parenting is difficult. You have to sacrifice a lot. So, for them to talk about a cultural disdain for kids is understandable... but sad. Kids are awesome.
BioFlayerMedia
Can say the same from the other side though, alot in my friend group have kids, alot dont and so many adventures, the people with kids miss out on due to parental obligations. People are different and have different likes and dislikes
brandonblk
im not an edgelord. i just hate kids *shrug* They are loud
perckq
Not an edge lord thing, finding the mini winston churchill looking crotch goblins to not be the epitome of cute is quite normal
randomguy342
Imagine being so sure that it isn't 'being an edgelord thing' and then unironically saying "mini churchill looking crotch goblins"
pfunk81
I dunno I'm terrified of holding them for fear I'll drop it on its head. Literally similar to when I'm working with high voltage (engineer), my body's reaction is to have to urinate and I'll need to go relieve myself.
kanybal
I will always remember that time the only other woman at the guild meet-up handed me her baby saying "there, you're a girl, you know how to hold these and that they won't break" and I was like ???
pfunk81
Alavar
It's an edge lord thing. I don't want kids a multitude of reasons but my niece is the cutest thing on the planet.
RayneOfSalt
Then who or whatever designed them failed miserably.
gabador
it helps if you just remember imgur hates kids. I think it's part hypercorrection in the face of pressure to have kids, part exaggeration of the preference to be child-free, and part edgelord nonsense.
Housemaster
On a site full of weebs, frog enthusiasts, and "scientists" (wink wink, nudge nudge, saynomore).... yeah, big mystery.
Froggie243
I've never once in my life thought a baby was cute.
aradiah
Pretty sure my wiring got messed up somewhere, but no, I don't find most babies to be cute. Occasionally there is a cute one, or one doing cute things, but I have no natural anything that makes me want to love or care for it any more than any other sentient creature. Not sure if it's because I dont want kids, or if that's part of why I don't want them.
Bacxaber
I'm not joking. Human infants are repulsive.
irrational1618
Survival of the fittest. Some people are just evolutionary dead ends.
Lashiel87
For example, anyone who not only believes but publicly espouses viewpoints such as this.
yallmfsneedjesus
Edge lord thing for young people and people who think they are young. Most people like kids or at least babies. Otherwise millions of people wouldn't work in daycare, teachers, pediatrics, children's theater, etc.
SJBSavageInk
If they're designed to be cute, then why do they smell like expired milk?
CleverGroom
Some of us have never wanted kids and never thought they were cute. Idk what to tell you. Not everybody's the same. Humans were "biologically designed" to have straight sex too, but it turns out a lot of humans aren't into that either.
Hlebinka
They're bald, toothless and have large heads. What's cute about that?
doesntmatter
It's an edgelord thing, and then there's the r/childfree people who should just be forcibly contained to there for the betterment of humanity.
BrdCdn
People downvoting you is hilarious and prices the point.
FloatingOnACloudOfTitties
uououououo
As @InfinitumD mentioned, the wiring of a human changes after becoming a parent. To add to that, however, there is also evidence of human's having more disgust with babies unrelated to them. This makes sense from a biological viewpoint and can be seen in other animals. They aren't cute; they're future competitors for your genes.
NATA5
I mean I’m sure for some it’s serious but I think it’s more of a “I’m a person who does not want kids, isn’t interested in kids” kind of thing. I’ll make a goofy faces or smile at a baby out in public. But I do have and love dogs so I’m always excited about seeing them. I’m not going to go out of my way to ask a parent about their baby.
Freak0zoid
As the (hopefully fun) uncle with no kids himself, this is it.
CardboardEmpress
As a mother, this. Also, it's much less weird to goo-goo over a dog than it is someone else's baby.
mcpma
People are wired differently and not always logically. Human babies being ugly/nasty is an extremely common sentiment, just usually not about your own.
insertwittyjoke
That's not been my experience. Going out in public with a newborn was like being a minor celebrity. Literally couldn't walk anywhere without being stopped by people wanting to just stare. Even people that didn't stop us would rubberneck to catch a view of her and even follow us a little. It was genuinely overwhelming.
Mokisan
Yep. Most newborns look like ugly red lizards, except my son, who was perfect. No sarcasm, that's actually how I saw it when he was born.
joot78
No, it’s a fucking edgelord who looks at a squirmy wormy human and tries to pretend that’s cute compared to a puppy or kitten.
joot78
This
joot78
vs. this. Give me a fucking break. You can’t even be honest with yourself.
MrsHowVeryDareYou
I birthed one and had so much Post Partum Depression for so long that I stopped there. But I always have and always will want to see/hold your human baby.
itsallaboutthecones
I think the subject of having babies is complicated for a lot of reasons (including the aforementioned edge lord status, for those individuals) and for those that don't want or can't have, or probably both combined, it's a defense mechanism to call them ugly. And here's the thing: babies, especially newborns, really are ugly. Also, some people are just unmitigated assholes. As a father of three, I try not to show pictures without being asked but I want to see pictures of other people's kids!
butIlikeitbecauseitisbitterandbecauseitismyheart
Yes. I love looking at and smiling at toddlers. So very cute. I think new born infants are incredibly ugly. Not their fault, they are underdeveloped at birth so they can fit through the birth canal.
DrPhillipMahmoufWifarts
Yeah, it's weird...society is becoming more kid friendly in some ways and much more kid antagonistic in others..
DrPhillipMahmoufWifarts
Have two! Love em. Giving me mental health issues but, it's different and wonderful and I can't explain it to anyone that doesn't have one.
stingingnettlegurlL7
I think it because not having kids is very normal now. Where it was not normal when I was growing up. That normalization has shifted to kid-antagonist. It’s not the kids fault. Also. I was in ugly baby!
BeesechurgerProductions
I've definitely noticed an uptick in people being antagonistic at others for choosing to have kids, which is wild. Like, yeah, the whole "When are you having kids?" thing from in-laws and parents and shit has and always will be fucking annoying, but so is seeing people acting like having kids is the worst mistake someone could ever make, or worse yet, somehow actively a malicious choice?
thedarkcanuck
Some people might find them cute, and that's their right. I personally don't understand why anybody would want to fuck up their bodies and lives just to have one
insertwittyjoke
Idk it didn't fuck up my body or life. I think the internet just likes to circulate the worst most dramatic stories surrounding motherhood and treat it like universal truth. Literally most of what I hear about motherhood from the internet reads more like gleeful torture porn that anything resembling my real life experience
Wyrdbunny
Speak for yourself. My pregnancy kicked off a very painful autoimmune disease and a bunch of new and annoying allergies. Now I get to inject myself bi-monthly with immune suppressants and hope my kid doesn't bring something home from school that has the potential to hospitalize or kill me.
insertwittyjoke
I kind of think you just proved my point. Not anywhere on the internet can one talk about their completely mundane pregnancy and birth experience without someone busting in to talk about how pregnancy made their tits fall off or something. The internet tends to amplify and circulate extreme edge cases while diminishing and even shaming anyone who dares to share their story about how everything went fine and nothing bad happened
Wyrdbunny
I think most women have dealt with a lifetime of the "it's normal and natural, it's what you were made for and it's beautiful" bs. I got that from my MIL, husband, and 3 different doctors and it took me 5 years to get a diagnosis. I speak for myself, but also for the other women who are being treated like they are nuts for speaking out as if they don't know their own body. Research shows that the issues women face around pregnancy and aftercare are minimized by the medical world.
InfinitumD
Having seen lots of babies, they're disgusting and loud. Not even remotely cute. Apparently becoming a parent actually alters your brain chemicals to make you like them
Colopty
It's pretty common for parents to just not feel much for their infants except recognizing they now have a fragile screaming plant in their house. They learn to love them eventually once they get a little older and start forming an actual personality to connect with, but until then babies are kept alive through a sense of obligation.
ChicanoBatman
My son was hideous when he was born. Like if a monkey and an avocado made a baby. People would do the "ah cute baby..." thing yet my friends were honest AF about his looks. He grew into a gorgeous 6'5" water polo player, but no, not all babies start out "adorable" and yes, I love him as much day one as 28 years later.
butIlikeitbecauseitisbitterandbecauseitismyheart
Thank you for being honest. New borns, in my opinion, are almost always ugly. They are necessarily underdeveloped so they can still fit through the birth canal. Actually, a lot of new borns are ugly…Many baby birds fur example. Then there are the baby sea turtles that are cute as a button or baby giraffes. I think these examples are more attractive because they are further along in development
SJBSavageInk
Bro, not my friend's baby. Big ol' head. And what was that statistic I read? Like 70% of women have their taint either cut or it rips on their own? That's a hard pass for me.