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Feb 16, 2023 6:30 PM
HijoDePolo
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hoopyhoop
I use self checkout because in Seattle people think it's rude to not have a half hour conversation with the human checkers.
SploogeMcDuck316
I actually really like self checkout for quick trips
CaptMal
That's just the employee discount
Faasel524
"unidentified item in the baggage area" - Fuck you machine.
MrCapps
I vastly prefer self checkout, don't need to interact with anyone unless absolutely necessary.
DMSledge
A reminder that Walmart only loses a very very very tiny percentage to theft. It has been estimated that they steal more from their staff.
Volpe42
People have to want to be cashiers to hire them as such
melmboundanddown
You would think we as a society don't need cashiers and gas pumpers, that we could do it ourselves without stealing.
Pm713
Take my self checkouts from my cold dead hands.
isgoodname
Always use cashier! They get paid, keeps them employed and forces companies to pay! Save a job!
MrJwinkyface
If they don’t like how do my work they can fire me
ChefHannibal
not my fault I received inadequate training
Mindcrime
Except it will be if you make a mistake or the machine malfunctions. You're on the hook for shoplifting.
Clockworkdancerobot
The actions of companies to reduce staffing, wages, and protections to live are directly responsible. They lie to say people are "lazy".
TheMightyMollusk
I use the self checkout because I hate interacting with people.
makesense
No, this is a b.s response. A lack of cashiers doesn't give anyone a right to be a thief. Do I cry over the lost revenue, of course not...1/
makesense
2/ .. because the corporation is still very profitable.
rossimus
As a customer who doesn't steal from the self checkout, fuck that I don't want to interact with bored/hostile cashiers
NaughtButOne
I don't want the anxiety of standing behind someone with 458306 items, and in front of another who thinks 27μm is reasonable personal space.
ghostalker
Or chatty cathys. Just because I'm buying antacids doesn't mean you can give me medical "advice" and hold up the line.
penclnck
I prefer self check out now and I don't see how self check out is an excuse for theft.
thegraphiteknight
Yeah the whole " it's ok to steal from corporations" thing fucking bothers me. It's still stealing.
arewenotkingsandqueenstogether
It's just easier.
Kunitsu
Right? The same people complaining about checking themselves out, also shopped entirely for themselves and picked out their own groceries
Kunitsu
I really dont get the sentiment some people have, especially when they treat the cashiers like shit to begin with
thedudeman519
Just steal. No need to pretend you're doing it for the poor cashiers that the store wouldn't have anyways
umbabrahattasil
This. Plus the lack of cashiers at my closest store has made it to where people with overflowing carts clog up the self checkout. Lose lose.
FeloniousMonk13
I'm ok w self checkout IF I have 10-12 items. More than that is too much fuckin work.
mydamnkidsdontthinkimfunny
At mine I can scan and bag as I shop then just scan a final barcode at self-checkout. Rare occasional audit
smegmaspread
My hard fast rule is self checkout is only faster if no one is in line ahead of you. If there is even 1 person ahead of you it’s faster to
smegmaspread
Stand in line and have a cashier do it for you.
thedysentery
I will jump through many hoops to avoid speaking to another human being
dfhowes
This is my son.
Zestykitten
My local grocery store, which used to be real chill, now has a full "Asset Protection Team" that follows customers around, plus extra
Zestykitten
Cameras and the self check out people watch over your shoulder. I no longer plan to shop there. Fyi people are stealing because SHITS PRICEY
IdiotSavantTinker
Is it a chain or a specific store? I want to act furtive and try to hide while walking around in circles wasting their time for a few hours.
Zestykitten
This store in particular was my local ShopRite
thedudeman519
No. Clearly people are stealing because they care about the cashier's ! /S
schismatosis
Bill Burr has a great bit on this https://youtu.be/FxINJzqzn4w
Waxilliam
Fuck that. Arrest the thieves and allow me to shop and checkout without talking to a single person.
turomar
I use the app. Drive around back. Worker puts the stuff in my car. In and out like 5 min.
TacoPoweredHelicopter
Depends on the store, some here are fine others.. I am gonna need to pick out my own bone rotting produce.
TacoPoweredHelicopter
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tj90007
I wonder if people complained as much when elevators started being automated. “If I have to operate this elevator, they should be paying me”
BillShut
And instead of opening more cashier lanes, Walmart instead bumped up the sensitivity of their self-checkout security. To the point (1/3)
BillShut
(2/3) where simply opening your own reusable shopping bag will set off the shoplifting alert, requiring (you guessed it!) AN EMPLOYEE to
BillShut
(3/3) come over, and spend a minute, clearing the alert from your self-checkout! Can't tell you how many times it's happened to me!
Futchm
The cost of hiring a cashier is orders of magnitude higher than the loss from self checkout. Still Mega Corps whining about a non issue
Gatorjon
Exactly, please don't hire more cashiers. Food is too fucking expensive already.
hydrocarbon82
53% of inflation has been pure corporate profit increase aka greedflation, worker wage increases were only 8%.
RyanSilver612
They never lowered prices for making us do self checkout
TacoPoweredHelicopter
It's not the cashier's that make your food expensive... It's the share holders and CEO's.
Sasurau
I honestly don't know. Our shrink went up a absolute fucking immense amount when they installed self checkout (as has happened at every
Sasurau
store when they do an install). I'm talking more than tripling. And furthermore, we haven't laid off people outside of seasonals, which is
Sasurau
pretty standard. Hell, we've even brought back several seasonal hires. The whole thing is... very confusing.
TacoPoweredHelicopter
So lots steal? Man I just can't do it, even if it's a big company. Am I the outlier,?
Sasurau
No clue ratio but given even I, a cashier with 20 years in retail, sometimes miss items I think some of it is theft and some of it mistakes.
IntensiveCareBear
Just gotta steal more I guess so it evens out
Willowknowsall
I'd like to steal more, after a long day at work go grocery shopping have a cart full and 2 kids and ring up all my stuff fuck you
jayman0123
just remember folks, the weight measure on wal-mart self checkouts is usually off and the camera is directly above the flatbed scanner so 1/
jayman0123
stack your items vertically as you move them, or so i've heard
quade
Bananas PLU is 4011.
tooomanystevesgotbanned
At which store?
quade
All of the stores.
Wolfy4226
HeadJamistan
Holy shit. For some reason, that came up at work about an hour ago!
Californiajackson
Info I didn't realize I knew until I saw this and went, "Yep, that's right."
backrideup9
Funny, that's also the PLU for all the apples and tomatoes.
quade
And the steaks
gablestout
FYI. the PLU scam is very well known in loss prevention. They look for it
thisiscatman
For scale.
SodomySnake
REMOVE ITEM FROM SCALE
guitarfourtysix
MOVE YOUR [banana] AND PLACE IT IN THE BAGGING AREA
BonafideHomicide
You know, everyone telling everyone else about this is why they're cracking down on it.
PoppyBee
Help is on the way
myscaleisntaccurate
Unknown item in the baggage area
Zestykitten
Yes but don't banana your other food. Self check outs now have 6 different cameras watching you including what you put on the scale.
IdiotSavantTinker
I sure hope nobody comes up with a socially acceptable reason to wear a mask in public...
backrideup9
There is nobody watching and the scales dont work at my local store. Its automated AFAIK. if I move across the scanner and put something 1/
backrideup9
In my bag, like my hat or gloves and it doesnt register a barcode, instant lockdown. Happens alot cuz I I have reusable bags.
GreaterDog
I don't banana anything outside the privacy of my room
Aforaseem
Amateurs
Zestykitten
If you Banana a pound of ground beef, it automatically flags you and the employee has to review the cameras before you can proceed
Zestykitten
It's not just the camera you look at when you're checking out and think "wow I look bad today." there's a camera at your hands too
IdiotSavantTinker
That's... handy information to know.
Zestykitten
quade
The people watching those cameras should be ringing up my stuff, then. :)
IdiotSavantTinker
Clockworkdancerobot
Some places like Walmart have cameras watching the scanner and mark anything that appears to be shoplifting. I accidentally double scanned -
Clockworkdancerobot
-something and put the second item in the area. The machine went nuts and I had to show what happened.
Clockworkdancerobot
Just a warning based on my experience.
hydrocarbon82
That big stainless "counter" is actually a scale checking item weights. Goes nuts if u pick something off it before paying.
Clockworkdancerobot
Was the other side. Walmart 20+ item self checkout isn't weighted, the screen showed me moving the item with a big "SUSPECTED SHOPLIFTING"
quade
Put a sticky note on the camera and say you have a reasonable right to privacy while shopping.
Clockworkdancerobot
Ceiling camera.
Zestykitten
Lol bro that's just the distraction camera. They want to think it's the only one. There's cameras above you, at your feet, at your hands....
MajorD3rp
Oranges are 4012
gablestout
I'm more of a 3029, myself...
pdz909
Never been a cashier and haven't bought a banana in 5 years. But I knew this number!
Californiajackson
Bananas are good for you. Buy some.
Somerandomoldguy
Stealing? You mean compensation for labor.
johnmatrixxxx
Reduce is excellent compensation
penzick
100% agree. When self-service was first introduced in gas stations, there was a discount to compensate. This should be the same.
DarkZalgo
If self checkout is labor, then so is walking up and down the aisles to get my groceries.
Banjooie
so funny thing about this: before the supermarket, it was considered normal for your cashier to get your things from a list you gave them
DrShrimpPuertoRico85
Went earlier today. Self checkouts full. 2 cashier lanes open. 9 staff putting out Easter stuff. 3 greeters for some reason.
trojanplatypus
Same here. Except for the 7 other employees standing around doing nothing.
ZeRootOfAllEvil
6 managers out back talking about how hard they work.
hydrocarbon82
And 9 people watching the cameras
FafnirMH
The 9 staff putting out Easter stuff is real. If you need 7 managers and 2 helpers to put up a display maybe you should get better managers.
nekuth
Did all 3 greet you though?
DrShrimpPuertoRico85
Not a one
hydrocarbon82
My joke every time to the other line-goers: if we all rush the door, the most they can catch is 2 of us.
madogthefirst
First I thought Walmart but you said 2 lanes open so that couldn't be them.
DrShrimpPuertoRico85
I was shocked
Redyls
"greeters" aka security...
NaSMaX
Right because if I wanted to steal, grandma Nana with the titanium hip is going to stop me...
boogiemanspud
*6 Million Dollar Man theme intensifies*
Leonon
Yeah, but it's played on a kazoo.
secretdpp
Nah 90% od them are disabled people who literally can't do any other job. Or are recovering from surgery like I was. It also sucks the most
METROlD
And for some reason the cashiers cant have chairs. In every other country they get chairs. Not in America.
fortheloveofgodacceptsomething
Canada also hates chairs.
DontYouHateWhenAllUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken
Not here in Canada. They treat em like shit the few they have.
SelterDRG
What? Why?!
Tumescentpie
Cruelty is the point.
Redyls
ceo's: cause fuck you thats why...
Sarpedan
9 years total as cashier in UK, no chairs in the three places i worked
TacoPoweredHelicopter
Shhhhh you are breaking there point.
Bananasandwiches42
Only point he’s made is those are all country specific companies. That’s it.
DanTheDroneMan
Every single Tesco, Aldi and Asda I've been to has had chairs from what I remember. What backwards shops are you working for??
Sarpedan
2 convenience stores and one that sold bric-a-brak and garden furniture
DanTheDroneMan
I suppose those smaller shops don't really care too much for comfort, and working for a bigger shop = more stress, so it's 50/50 happiness
thevortexmaster
Really? Definitely no chairs in Canada.
METROlD
Oops. I dont travel much in Canada. This is true for many EU places though.
thevortexmaster
That would be cool. I don't see why that isn't practised everywhere. Never even thought of it as something that exists honestly
Rystefn
Because making poor people suffer is funny, plus "I had to suffer, so fuck you, now you have to suffer."
MerriMod
Aldi's gives their cashiers chairs. But it's also a German multinational company, so it's absolutely an outlier to the norm.
unluckyandbored
They let them sit at the register because when they're not ringing they're doing EVERYTHING ELSE.
unluckyandbored
Not only can we not have chairs, they insist that we stand at the front of the register to "welcome" customers to our lane.
msfeatherbottom
kingkongkeom
Supermarket greeters and baggers are the most american nonsense ever.
jojoyojimbi
much like the TSA they're security theater, meant to give the impression that something's there to secure the place
Zestykitten
Baggers I'm fine with, it can give a kid a job. Greeters are stupid as fuck
fredh67
Greeters give a job to seniors that didn't save for retirement.
BonafideHomicide
And you either don't see or don't care why that's so fucking wrong...
fredh67
I don't know how you arrived at that conclusion - I'd love to change the world, but it is what it is at the moment.
TacoPoweredHelicopter
Ok... Big offf there.
Zestykitten
Yeahhhh let's just not engage in this one. The commentor is so far gone we'll never reach them
Tumescentpie
I'm not okay with jobs for kids. It just allows companies to abuse children AND they get to pretend that min wage jobs are only for kids.
thevortexmaster
Greeters here are usually disabled people just trying to have a job
ImHereToGetDownvotes
Agreed. Outside of Lowe's and Home Depot, the greeters around here are almost exclusively the elderly / impaired.
Zestykitten
That's okay then. I'm cool with that. My problem is them trying to make greeters security guards
Zestykitten
A big bulk store like Costco, fine check my receipt. Walmart? Fuccckkk off
Redyls
greeters are actually security without the security training
GCRust
Not sure why you're downvoted. That's exactly what they are. They're meant to deter theft by being an extra set of eyes.
Redyls
yeah exactly. they are not there to stop you. they are there to report you. i get receipt checked there all the time.
LastChans
Corporate: We'd pay just for the eyes, but the rest of the body comes with it. /s
ChrisVZ
I use the self checkout because I am apparently the only cashier that understands canned goods don’t go on top of the bread.
EeveeInASweater
Bag your own at the cashier? That's the fastest option bar none
drochleprechaun
I worked checkout in highschool and from day 1, heavy on bottom, boxes on edges to keep the bag open, squishables on top only.
Captaintippie
I will group everything on the belt. Cans with cans, produce with pro, etc and they still do that crap. Its so frustrating
kaoticgirl
I use the self check so I won't have to interact with a person.
Wyrdbunny
I use self check out because I don't need a separate bag for each item and rarely do I need anything double bagged.
Osicat
Eeeeh? Why would the cashier pack your bag?
Eldibs
I just bag stuff for people how I would want it bagged, unless they specify. Heavy on bottom, light on top, fragile stuff by itself.
crunchyDANGERhaystacks
Did you know apples that cost more weigh the same as on sale produce? And they cost the same too
IdiotSavantTinker
How else are we supposed to avoid denting the cans?
rbudrick
Whatever opinion: it's your fault when bread or eggs are bagged wrong in any store. Put wm on the conveyor last
Sfingks
You're probably their best paid employee
Dreigiau
I've legitimately never had that happen, but I also put things on the belt in a sane arrangement - cans, boxes, heavy things, each group 1/2
Dreigiau
2/2 gets put with its own stuff, and light/fragile things (bread, eggs, chips, etc) stay in the cart's seat until last.
boiphamet
I use it to steal vegetables
AllMyPain
ratfaceddog
There must be a high concentration of idiots wherever you live, because in my 3+ decades of buying groceries, I haven’t seen a single
ratfaceddog
cashier do that.
ratfaceddog
Or bagger, for that matter.
Flenop
28oz cans go on top of the eggs, which are in top of the saltines, which are on top of the bread. The light bulbs can get squished in tight.
Flenop
If you expect to bump into a lot of things while carrying the bags, make sure to put the cereal and chips on the side as padding.
InfocalypseRising
When I worked grocery in high school people were always impressed when I didn’t bag their stuff like a fucking idiot.
OmnesMundiLardum
George Carlin, "think of how dumb the average person is, now realize half the world's population is dumber than them."
DMSledge
They are the common clay of the new west
Cthulhuonabike
I use self checkout because everything is "banana". 39 cents a lb baby
boiphamet
iwantkittydaycare
4011
CitizenPrime
Cashiers aren't meant to bag your items
Frelioan
oooph You've never gotten me in line. I'll move the lightweights to the side deliberately and bag em last... No more common sense. :(
thedudeman519
Thomas Paine has entered the chat
kingkongkeom
I still think it's ridiculous that you have baggers in the US...just pack your own groceries.
MithridateEupator
It's to speed up the line
TacoPoweredHelicopter
In Canada some just pack your bags as they scan.. almost no difference for them to put it into a bag instead of put it onto a belt.
Volpe42
Most places don't
Sharook
I was once told by a "bagger" not to pack my own bag instead of them, because it was demeaning", "I should know" was his closing line 1/2
haadyy
If he is not being penalizef for me doing my bags, it would be more demeaning when I unpack and pack them back up again after...
haadyy
My husband and I are very particular about what goes where in the bags. If my mother is in the store and packs 'wrong', we'd often fix it...
Sharook
Coming from living in the UK it just made me feel awkward standing doing nothing whilst someone else packed my things. 2/2
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Whackamoley
How often is shopping in other countries?
TacoPoweredHelicopter
Could go either way from thryr post... Every day or every month, we will never know.
OldWolfe
In many European countries everything is smaller including the fridge, daily shopping is the norm here in NL.
ClickBabeMagnet
It depends on the store. In some the cashier bags, in some there is a separate person and in some you do it yourself
bfbzlug91
For most it's a convenience, for store it gets more customers through faster per cashier, for elderly/disabled it's necessary
AbelardSnazz
It's also a political thing to ensure 'employment' - the US has lots of these jobs, often supported by law e.g. gas-pumpers
grapesofwrath1120
I haven’t seen a gas-pumper in 20 years.
thevortexmaster
Most places I know, at least in Canada bag their groceries and carry them out to their vehicles if the person asks
adiving
And yet in other countries seeing a disabled/elderly who can't do it is both extremely rare... and always solved by everyone including the >
adiving
> cashier still offering/doing it.
bfbzlug91
Are you suggesting slowing down the cashier in a capitalist society? What's next, hire another cashier to the benefit of all except profits?
thedudeman519
" we're helping people !" Lol such nonsense
Lampmonster
Last time I had a bagger I had some large wine bottles, long week, and asked him to double bag them. He apparently took that to mean to -
Lampmonster
- put two 750ml bottles in one plastic bag together. He couldn't lift it without it tearing but he still put it in my cart.
WhyisnoIDavailable
... so many things wrong here, but what kinda bag do you guys use that they break with 2 bottles of wine ?
Lampmonster
Shitty store plastic bags. They get thinner all the time I swear. I don't use them if I can avoid it.
umbabrahattasil
You can minimize this by planning out how you lay stuff out on the belt, but yes, sometimes I feel the same.
th3guy
This is what I do. I stack the belt by weight and bagging group. Makes it go quicker for everyone and less problems.
ChrisVZ
They still manage to mess it up. Sometimes wonder if it is micro aggression after having to deal with “Karens” all day for pitiful wages.
HorseDeepInADragon
I tried that yesterday. The heavy shit sat on the counter until the end while they loaded around it… for unknown reasons
NotMyUsualOnlineName
Best I can come up with: so you load the heavy stuff into your car first. Could also be a store policy for "reasons".
kingkongkeom
Or you could bag your groceries by yourself...
cozynester
Some places have a person dedicated to bagging and they start before you checkout
NotMyUsualOnlineName
And sometimes, you won't even be finished unloading your cart when they start scanning and bagging. Them's the good ones.
penzick
Craziest to me is how many ppl will argue that self-checkout doesn't cost jobs. That stores for some reason keep the same number of staff.
keeledcalcar
I think it's just as hard to make the counterargument: that checkout automation by itself significantly affects staffing. Need to see data.
keeledcalcar
More importantly, I don't think job loss should be prioritized in choosing whether to automate. There are smarter solutions to unemployment.
penzick
Those are all thoughtful considerations. But my only real point here is that prior to self-check out, the cost of groceries included the
penzick
cost of employing cashiers. (Along w/ all other overhead, ofc.) So if the company is going to eliminate one of those costs, not purely by
penzick
automating, but by using automation that only works in combination w/ MY labor, they shouldn't be the sole beneficiary of the savings.
swedeonamoose
Prolly very different from store to store, my local food store now has a lot more people working the floor instead.
penzick
I am honestly very interested to know what corporation it is. I've never seen an example of one spending hundreds of thousands to automate
penzick
and not cut staffing costs. It's literally the sales pitch of the self-checkout manufacturers. Can you google the corporation owner?
swedeonamoose
In my case ICA, but as said, very likely different from store to store even whitin the same corp
penzick
That's not generally how corporations work. Small store to store differences but massive company-wide technology procurements are made w/
Whackamoley
How many jobs were shifted to carry out when you order online?
penzick
What? There's zero correlation between these two things.
Whackamoley
What do you mean? Job as cashier terminated. Job for order ahead created. Same number of jobs.
penzick
No "jobs for order ahead" have been created due to customers using self-check-out. That doesn't even make sense.
Whackamoley
That's not what I said. I said with order ahead, jobs have been created and there's more employees than I've ever seen, so -