KingZullu
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Apr 16, 2018 4:38 PM
KingZullu
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JoeyLock
Because Poland is becoming a right wing fascist friendly state, but if you're into that sort of thing you can always bog off to there.
Galhaar
Because Poland recently had a far right rally with 60K attendees??
Aurourus
Over 100k shows where you get your info from.
kreativ91
whats the gain?
jezorko
1. to teach the younger generation in the audience that some symbols should be fought with, 2. to never forget the history, 3. pride I guess
HighFunctioningAlcoholic
You don't know much about 2018 Poland, do you?
tkuicbhnhbh
Or 1930 Poland
BottlelessGet
This is a Polish football match. Those fans are most likely opposing communism because the ultras are all raging fascists. Bit of a problem.
hyenan
Isnt this Legia warsaw who was suspended from Champions league for antisemitism?
ElmyrDeHory
Nope. Wrong club colors. That's Jagiellonia Białystok.
hyenan
Ok, thanks.
kingoffools13
At first i saw a tilted strong bad head.
TemporaryFool
Unlike the rest of us, they saw it up close and personal.
Icantthinkofaname2
They also saw the holocaust up close and personal. Yet they move toward fascism. Hmm.
Whatsname
Really? more like Poland, REALLY???
AmArschdieRaeuber
Imgur has a hard on for poland, I don't even know why. They think it's a haven against extremism because of their past.
beedoubleuthree
What do they have against crossbows?
capsaicinheat
and hammers and sickles
esbear
Nothing, it is the string.
SpecialProjectY
*anchors
grklein
What do they have against anchors?
DontTazeMeBrah
they don't like Boaty McBoatface
vivalasveggies
Always upvote anti-Russia
emiliato
:)
wutangkillabee
If Poland is so great why are most of the Poles living abroad.
alecdshope
And get invaded constantly? I'll pass.
MichelGoussu
maybe because women shouldn't have tofigjt to get an abortion ?
Smayds
Still can't into space though.
CapsShield
Are you sure about that? https://polsa.gov.pl/en/
ThatWillBuffOut
Moving version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyFldvlxBRQ
justushandyman5
Meanwhile in America...
AmArschdieRaeuber
You think america is drifting towards communism? Where?
Icantthinkofaname2
Uh...wanting a bit of economic fairness is not the same as the USSR. Your pic should be of corporations raping poor people.
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Eduprofile
110% accurate representation of daily happenings, can confirm.
candythesquirrel
Protesting against non-existant threat, that's gone for almost 30 years already ?
Begotten
People do the same thing in other western countries with other nonexistent threats
Icantthinkofaname2
Fascism only works if there's an enemy threat, made up or not
AmArschdieRaeuber
Hey, if it's not the jews, you can always use the muslims for that. Communism is harder because you can't just look at their dick to see it.
Irreal
If you cannot identify them then the enemy could be everywhere!
taki707
fuck communism in every way
Applelion
Don’t worry. The people that downvote you also want to remove your freedom of speech, religion, right to assemble, bare arms, et alias.
elucidatefurther
Truth.
QuestionsaboutSanity
To get things being fucked up even more? We‘re having a good pace towards shitsgoingtohitthefansoon already... so no, thank you!
jumbosmooth
Poland had always been in a tough spot between Germany and Russia. They're doing the best they can.
CapsShield
but can they into space?
Megarith
They're like a more nationalistic version of Slovakia, that has a harder time accepting being ruled over.
MintMission
I don't know if you ever visited Russia and Germany, but if you are going to pick one friend, I would def pick Germany.
Euripidesdidnothingwrong
I would now, much harder choice in 1939 I think
MintMission
fair enough
AmArschdieRaeuber
A lot of nazis in poland right now though. Very far right at least. Don't know if that's something you should applaud them for.
Doumdidoum
Let's condemn all Poles for some derps. Way to go, moron.
Anthemius
That's how imgur reduces every complex political issue, to simple broad generalisations, that suit their world view.
AmArschdieRaeuber
"A lot of" is not the same as "all". Way to exaggerate, buddy.
stja
Funny, I never met one. I wonder where do they hide whenever I'm outside.
skambeinet
Yea, never seen them the 15 times i've visited poland either. Met a lot of awesome Polaks and gotten drunk on vodka tho, Kurwa mać !
SlaughteringApricot
dude, literally today I saw a new graffitti with "fuck islam, kill all muslims" and studying with foreigners i can say - a lot of racism :(
AmArschdieRaeuber
Because they always are skinheads and shout "fuck immigrants" all the time... Your election results are more visible. Fuck the PiS.
stja
Thank the religious elderly, PiS bible thumping, and apathetic youth. PiS winning is a testament to prevalence of Catholicism.
AmArschdieRaeuber
My bad. Kukiz looks kind of scary too though. There is a certain shift to the right, but that's happening in all of europe I'm afraid.
TedBreaker
This supporting neo nazi scum lowlifes on imgur, really?
sauceisbauce
Found the commie☝️
AmArschdieRaeuber
Weird trend going on on social media praising poles as being the perfect political center 1/2
AmArschdieRaeuber
Because "historically" they should be against both nazis and communists. The reality is different, more on the nazi side of things 2/2
TedBreaker
Americans are really ignorant mate even the brightess are very naive, just a little bit of asking a normal european will tell what these 1/2
TedBreaker
Clowns in poland really are 2/2.
AmArschdieRaeuber
It's all emotions and not a lot of facts. They vote for someone they know from tv or looks/sounds right. Education system got a toll on them
Poopiusbutticus
They experienced communism/socialism firsthand and know its dangers. Western college students like to ignore these people's voices.
uplandhunter775
Western college students don't know their ass from a hole in the ground
SmolTenk
Yeah, because most of them are marxist not stalinist/leninist.
MFDork
They also lived through the extermination of the Jews and yet still hate the Jews.
Keairan
Communims =! socialism. And a friendly reminder that the labor movement in the US which is incredibly socialist is why you have a 40 hr (1)
Keairan
work week.
Flippinballz
Aren't the polish infamously racist?
JoeyLock
Yes but OP and a bunch of Imgur likes pushing their political agendas whenever they can.
AmArschdieRaeuber
I wouldn't call it an agenda, it's a mixture of ignorance and sympathie for right wing populism I think.
squip
Oh maybe just someone who detests communism. Good reasons to.
RuthlessRuben
I find it is often non-Europeans who should have read more on European politics before posting. Our shit is VERY complicated right now.
AmArschdieRaeuber
True, though the same is happening over there. It's hard to see with only two parties.
RuthlessRuben
You're right, and to be fair, a lot of us Euros should read up more on American politics too before we run our mouths too much.
StarryPlough
Why is there an image glorifying fascist football ultras ... on the front page of this site?
Corona688
It looks like the hammer and sickle in a "no" symbol, and the west is in a "fuck russia" mood
DesolateMirror
I'm guessing 99% of the upvoters have no idea of the context. If it were a swastika it would get the same response no matter who held it.
chrimola
Looks more like anti communism than fascism to me. But communists usually have a hard time seperating the two.
shackslam
It's not surprising.
VutheCommunityVillain
Pretty simple explanation, people upvoted it.
MaxDebutante
...yeah, be one off the most unapologetically racist societies in Europe. Incredibly racist.
Beeseik
Pretty low crime rates, though.
AmArschdieRaeuber
In poland? It's kind of a running gag that poles will steal anything. My polish friends make those jokes.
Beeseik
Well I'm having a hard time finding statistics that don't favor Poland in terms of low crime rates in Europe. But yeah, anecdotes. Ok.
AmArschdieRaeuber
That's because many polish criminals come to Germany and other neighbouring country to do their dirty deeds. Anecdotes, yeah!!
Begotten
Meanwhile, stupid people in western countries that never experienced communism would love to have it
ThatWillBuffOut
Poland is in political crisis with the independence of the judiciary completely eroded by the ruling party. So maybe not.
Munchman347
Time to go their own way and stop emulating the U.S.
ZeroDaysSinceLastPizza
Haha you silly goose
SanKa13
And ultra hardcore catholic
fireflowerfire
>implying the fascists don't want this
ThatWillBuffOut
There's so little faith in the rule of law in that country that Ireland have started refusing extradition requests.
StevieWundaBred
But their soccer fans!
WhyDontYouMakeMe
Polakwithablock
Nah it's chill
ThePole
Yup.
MeltingPoint1535
What a load of BS, Russian troll
Anhor
If he's a troll or not I don't know. But just google a bit about recent political changes in poland when it comes to judges and you'll see.
triedtothinkofausernamethatwasntalreadytaken
And I'm sure this is as staged as the North Korean cheer squad
MagelanCloud
And Monks in hospitals are payed better than hospital staff, Viva la Poland.
ICheckSpellingAndSuch
paid*, though I oddly admire your use of French.
ForeverAloneInHolland
Monks works in hospitals in Poland? Doing what? I've never heard of this before.
PhenTsoksar
Many nuns in the old europe are registered nurses. I know a few Augustinian nuns that are medical doctors, logic tells me monks, not (1/
PhenTsoksar
parish priests would apply their abilities to medicine as well.
grklein
Poland is one of (perhaps THE) most religious countries in Europe.
TitledEel
well, i mean, there's the Vatican, but other than that, sure
imgurisfornerds
It's a way of saying that the clergy is better paid than the medical staff, wether those monks work in a hospital or church
ForeverAloneInHolland
Ah. The phrasing confused me, then. That does seem like a problem, yeah. Either one's underpaid or one severely overpaid.
EADimgur
Presumably last rights, working hospital chapels, or attending other religious services
ForeverAloneInHolland
Wow. I've never lived in a culturally Christian country, so all of that sounds super weird to me.
imgurisfornerds
May I ask what's your country's main religion? I think that, in most parts of the world, people ask for a religious figure on their deathbed
parmahamster
And racist like shit
InnerBushman
Hey! I'm not racist! It's all about equality! I hate everyone equally!
Andolomar
Don't go to Poland then.
parmahamster
I won’t, I’m disgusted by people prying at the border against immigrants.
Lukaiw
at least we dont hawe terorist atacks :) and anywas the migrants we took left as soon as posible to germani because poland is poor
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TheFragnatic
Why isn't for example Austria the most racist nation in the world then?
RuthlessRuben
Poland had to fight off invasions for centuries. German and Russian ones. They did fight the Ottomans in Austria once though, but that's it.
TheFragnatic
THEN THE WINGED HUSSARS ARRIVED
RuthlessRuben
The charge of 18.000 riders down Kahlenberg is a thing I'd really love to have seen and am really glad I was not there for at the same time.
ThatWillBuffOut
Yikes,that was the weirdest six hundred points I ever got.
Icanhearwhatyouresayingandtheanswerisno
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avenienn
the problem with the judicary system in poland is there are no checks and balances. they never cleaned house after the communist periond
MeltingPoint1535
Exactly
CreateYourOwnNormality
Communism fell in Poland 30 yrs ago. Judges, not overly known for their youthful vigour have surely been cleaned out by you know... Death?
avenienn
also, as many judges were about 30/35 year old when communis fell they are still there, ablait each year in smaller numbers.
CreateYourOwnNormality
Even if its true that all judges are communists (laughable) wait 5 yrs. Instead they're handing judge appointments to corrupt politicians?!
avenienn
i never said that they are all communist m8. And they are not apointed by politicians. There is a council with politicians AND judges
avenienn
You are partially right. Exept they choose their successors often their offspring, so the same web of interest stays in place
CreateYourOwnNormality
Judges don't pick judges, a legal body does. Did, sorry, now it's done by politicians, those unbiased, even-minded, politicians
avenienn
judges were picked by the KRS. State court councill. 25 ppl, 18 judges. so yeah, judges pick judges,
avenienn
It became a quasi cast system
CreateYourOwnNormality
I can't find a single google result on 'father and son judge Poland' or similar searches, if you can?
flabbs
As a Brit I never forget the debt we owe the Poles. Battle of Britain, Arnhem, Enigma... and then we abandoned them to the USSR..shame on us
TheHumpingBaer
Then by all means, go and pay off this "debt" because as an 80s child, I bare zero responsibility for my forebears.
tymateusz
Hmm. But Polish have to bare... http://m.jpost.com/Diaspora/US-senators-urge-Polish-PM-to-reform-Holocaust-restitution-legislation-547229
ComradeV
As an American. We all did, damn shame.
AtypicalMammal
Well, then there's the debt owed to USSR for, umm, basically winning the whole war for everybody?
tiramigiu
one that we repaid by fabricating a cold war and ostracising the soviet union for being 'filthy commies' just to keep up an arms race.
LumberpunkCyberjack
I am a Pole living in the UK and as much as I appreciate the English it's sad many of them simply don't know about all this 1/2
LumberpunkCyberjack
So thank you for remembering and being grateful to the people - I will myself forever be grateful to. 2/2
PortableWingWang
Well that was to stop total war with a communist power and then you know, avoiding total atomic annihilation! Fyi, I'm also British.
MeltingPoint1535
Cheers
volamake
Also half of the new buildings in last 15 years
PortableWingWang
Thanks for that, seriously, British tradesmen are complete crooks. Polish tradesmen (from my experience) are just good people.
atlossforwords
... cheap labour
nothebees
You numpties.
tiramigiu
or what we did to the serbs, we asked them to sacrifice most of their population in ww1 and ww2 ...then we bombed the shit out of them.
PortableWingWang
Serbia joined ww1 before we did and ww2 it was full of Nazis. The fuck were we supposed to do?
MomofukuJones
I think it way more shameful what Britain did to Czechoslovakia. That was a literal cowardly backstab.
PortableWingWang
That's was kindof because we stupidly tried to fight for the Suez canal. Sorry about that...
Christonabike101
Sad reality is, what could Britain have done? Country was spent after 5 years of war, we couldn't fight the USSR.
tymateusz
Is it? First of all treaty signed before war between GB FRA and PL stated that if one will be attacked the other two will declare war 1/2
Astrolife75
The Allied forces couldve definatley beat back the soviets albeit it'd cost millions more lives on all sides
khora
How about an arrangement where people from Poland can come and work in UK to bring up their standard of living?
tymateusz
Are you serious? Polish do not need "Mercy". Just equal and just opportunities.
tymateusz
They declared war and did nothing for a year leaving Poland in the hands of Nazi. They would not have been able fight east and west at once.
EADimgur
No one except the US could, in theory. We weren't keen on the idea either though.
TheFragnatic
Even with all its military might. The US wouldn't in any way be a guaranteed victory in an offensive war with the USSR. It was huge, and
LTDeathSquid
We were in possession of, and willing to use atomic weapons at that point in time though. One on Moscow and things would have been simpler
TheFragnatic
So did they. One on Moscow would mean hundreds flying towards every major US city in range.
TheFragnatic
with a long history of using attrition superbly against a stronger foe. The most likely outcome is that the US would face massive unrest
TheFragnatic
in their own nation caused by waning war support. Just take a look at Korea and Vietnam.
Organoleptic
As a german, I better not join in on this conversation
PortableWingWang
Then why are you joining in?
Anthemius
Sshhh you. Let humour prevail. Don't politics.
PortableWingWang
Welcome to the world of British cynicism my friend, that was sarcasm
Anthemius
Bad sarcasm, needs to be more overt so you don't ostracise hoi polloi like myself.
FourFans
Why, Russia is the one who over through Poland not you guys.....wait. Nm
wuppieigor
Don't forget the czechs
yotsuya
I give them credit for being the only country east of France that had a genuine elected government in 1938 rather than a strongman.
yotsuya
And Poland invaded part of the country in 1938 giving Germany and Hungary extra justification for their own grabs.
Doumdidoum
The Czech, ahh, surrendered without a fight and gave the Wehrmacht their excellent tanks and superlative weapon factories.
AmArschdieRaeuber
Because there were so many germans living in the czechoslovakia at the time.
Doumdidoum
To be fair, the Slovaks put a worse show. They backstabbed the Czechs and went full Nazis. And Benes was so disappointing in 38.
Caniac
Hmm, I always thought it was more of a US failure, then I just read about the Moscow Conf. Still very sad either way
EADimgur
Honestly I'd hardly call it a failure for anyone. What were we going to do? Fight the massive-already mobilized USSR? It would be a disaster
Caniac
True, we were hardly in a position to dictate terms to our erstwhile ally
EADimgur
Exactly this. Not only had they been allies, they had arguably the biggest stick at the time
EvilHomer12
Actually Gen. George Patton petitioned this very thing directly after taking Berlin. He said we already had the army there so keep going
Corona688
And was it a good idea?
EvilHomer12
Considering how things went after that, I'd say its debatable
Doumdidoum
Well, truth be said, you did all you can. You could barely, just barely keep the Germans out of England, and you spent your empire for that
nevyy
Not true. 6 million poles died by German/Russian hands in ww2. That's bigger then my entire city. It could have been prevented
PortableWingWang
And if we helped Poland then we had to help Germany, Yugoslavia, the Baltic states, Romania, etc.
Doumdidoum
This makes no sense, tho. Poland independence was guaranteed by Britain, and it was its ally, not the other countries.
PortableWingWang
Britain did offer Poland independence at the beginning before Russia was invaded. Britain couldn't fight Russia and the US didn't want to.
Doumdidoum
At the begining of what? In 1918? You're not very clear, please, post multiple posts, I don't understand what you mean.
nevyy
Why would anyone want to help germany after ww2. Poland helped itself in ww2 and was the first country to get rid of the communists.
PortableWingWang
Um, no. Germany was split in half remember, east Germany got fucked. Poland was also fucked during ww2 by both sides claiming to be (1/2)
PortableWingWang
Liberators. Please remember that Germany and the Nazi regime are two different things.
BringerOfPieness
It shows the general intelligence of people who support worst and most oppressive system in human history
Galhaar
Yikes
Zigmunth
What system is that? The one in Poland?
BringerOfPieness
No, communism.
Zigmunth
never mind... I get it now :P jeez took me a while hehehe
Zigmunth
let me understand: you are saying Poles ARE supporting communism RIGHT NOW?
BringerOfPieness
No, people that support communism = vry stupid. Comment about communist supporters not poles.
Lolhunter
O Yes Yes you very right. America right? The best place in history. My god. Let me guess: white guy, military background maybe?
squirlfood
One only need realize that communism was responsible for 100 million deaths in 100 years to disprage it. The observers race dosn't factor.
BigTex1
Megarith
Here we see the U.S. native species Homo Inhabilis, colloquially known as the "Naive University Student". Observe as it attempts to grasp
Megarith
matters far beyond its own scope. Fascinatingly, reason, history, and rational thought seem to have no effect on its behaviour; It's almost
Megarith
as if there is no possibility for its taxis to change. Truly an interesting trait.
iCantImager
Lolhunter you're a cunt
squirlfood
Based on user name also likely a troll.
BringerOfPieness
You don't have to be a conservative to realise millions of people dieing is a bad thing.
Dalael
Capitalists's soup kitchens are no better than Communists bread lines. Both system are bad but its the politicians that make them worse.
equityforpunks
We (world) lift every day more than 10k people out of extreme poverty. Communism so far has just created poverty, e.g. NK and Venezuela.
CreateYourOwnNormality
That world average is very, very heavily influenced by the lifting of 1.4 billion people out of poverty in Communist China
FartedWhileMakingUpName
Those bread lines existed because the government killed and exiled millions of farmers....
BringerOfPieness
You don't see people being sent to gulags for having a different opinion do you?
Dalael
No, i see millions sent to jail because their opinion of what a schedule 1 drug is differs from Jeff Sessions.
Megarith
Devils Advocate: UK & Canadian hate crime laws.
BringerOfPieness
Nope, I'm English and I live off grid. If you had to give my political opinions a label it'd be libertarian.
DavidBrooker
I mean, it feels like you're a little bit on this grid in particular.
BringerOfPieness
Huh?
armagetz
Pretty sure he is referring to the phrase “off grid” being used as a self descriptor typically isn’t one used online.
bobsters06
“Off grid” usually implies away from society, and you are engaging folks on imgur which would be “on grid”. Maybe the UK uses it differently