Nov 7, 2022 12:38 PM
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Tracka
Thought it was still free to use…….
DoYouWantAntsBecauseThatsHowYouGetAnts
Let it burn. In fact, help it burn
ADegenFromUpcountry
Stable genius. The guy literally has the money to do ANYTHING he wants, but the unimaginative sack of crap spends his time shitposting smh
Redyls
let it burn!
Varenvel
PTK74
If you post that at Twitter, the ban you. Go do it. It's win-win.
Shaodyn
Blaming other people for the problems you caused is pretty common with right-wing nutjobs these days.
Your average Republican would punch himself in the face and blame Democrats for the resulting black eye.
Absurdturd6969
He wasn’t wrong, also we need to defund ukraine asap. We are not world police and they aren’t part of nato.
DrKriegersClone
If Putin wins in this, he's just going to keep coming for more until he gets to something that is NATO. Ukraine fights for us all.
Dondarian
Just stop using twitter. Problem solved.
nasukkin
I really wish that he didn't dump all of these crack-shot engineers right in the middle of my own job search :\
PiercedViking
It's almost like Elon isn't actually an intelligent man!
BettyBoopRidesAgain
Is it possible that he is purposefully killing Twitter?
LarvaLamp
manulofdoom
He isn't smart enough
BullfightERT
que risa con los mugrosos
whadyameanthatnamestaken
What a dipshit.
owlcatsanctuary101
Who cares. It's a toxic sinkhole anyway, better be rid of it.
amiurume
Deleted my accounts today.
SecretAgentSuperBooger
fnoigy
Problem is, his fans will totally buy the story
quade
My favorite part so far was the employee on their way out who suspended Ole Muskey's account
PileOfWalthers
Yeah that wasn’t the real Elon Musk account. Upper case i instead of lower case L.
Well, poo.
XEndeadX
It's not even what "used to be free" because now that anyone can buy it it means nothing.
JCstormz
morning news is he's asking some fired people to come back....what a fucking joke
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-11-06/twitter-now-asks-some-fired-workers-to-please-come-back
I hope they are smart enough to tell him to go fuck himself
From the article: “…laid off by mistake” yeah right.
tlamstrike
https://9to5mac.com/2021/07/13/twitter-verification-of-bots/
https://mashable.com/article/instagram-verification-paid-black-market-facebook
I wonder how many are angry with Twitter because they paid $15K in bribes to get their blue checkmark.
tr26
$13bil in high risk bank loans at about 12% interest. He’s a business GENIUS
laurafrancesca
Genius like the Cheeto in chief was
Exactly! A very stable one!
themorebeer
He only blasted Shitter for months because he was trying to get out of his promise to buy it. A promise that could cost him Tesla.
Granted, he's still blaming the Woke mob for his own misdeeds.
kaitco1984
My conspiracy theory: Musk is taking down Twitter intentionally for Trump after they silenced him.
ProgeriaProstitutes
If twitter goes down, Musk goes with it.
BeetBoxer
If true, Ol Musky would've been smart to get paid in advance.
Hashbrown123
Why shoot himself in the foot like that though?
seehemewe
B/c he is a man child.
Radix865
I doubt it, he bought it to silence the people who made fun of him. And Twitter is going down because he has no idea what he's doing...
n0n53n53
It's bigger than Trump. Musk and Putin want to control the western narrative. The MAGA/GOP are pawns in that game but they don't know it yet
secondtalon
Why would Musk give a flying fuck at a rolling doughnut about Trump? Elon's idiocy is standing alone on it's own two feet.
They’ve always been in cahoots. Musk is the type who would admire Trump and he parrots a lot of Trumpisms.
You know, I was going to say that the relationship was just business, but seeing what a shitty businessman Elon is, maybe you're right.
The $8 problem isn't that it used to be free, it's that the check mark was something that money couldn't buy.
atomright2718
Both?
[deleted]
Well then all those people who bribed a twitter employee are going to feel cheated when it loses all it's value
fireflyseasontwo
lucivjov
BettyWhiteSupremacy
Well, well, well. If it isn’t the consequences of his own actions.
KillingTlme
"sought-after blue check marks"
Skuggen
Desire to work somewhere management is just now realizing experience matters: 0. Desire to work for Elon Musk: -∞
TacoThePerson
Is this that billionaire smarts and work ethic I hear so much about? He should pull himself up by his bootstraps and write his own code.
gadaboutpoet
vahnn
Why does Twitter employ "human rights teams?" Genuine question.
https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/elon-musk-twitter-employees-layoffs-b2218097.html
Elkarlo77
EU. Twitter faces an EU Ban if it doesn't curate this things. Freespeech has some limits in the EU, Musk is gonna find out.
DiscountOneLiners
“Sure musk! I can come back in Monday to help you with that, but my new salary will be $200,000 with a $30,000 sign on bonus.”
WeAllLiveInAUserSubmarine
Ask for double if you're gonna be doing twice the work
Whydoeseveryonebelieveme
They laid off the senior engineers. Gotta pump those numbers way up.
skolyr
Sr Software Engineers were median $153k/yr base + $26k bonus + 52k stock options for ~231k. I'm sure at least one will leverage a +50% bump.
Smidge204
Bonus: Class action lawsuit for not giving legally required advanced notice of layoffs...
MeatPopsicleMultiPass
Won't go anywhere. The 3 months severance is a legal loophole. Still on payroll, but cut off from twitter. My company does it.
GrogMetron
the law doesnt need to make sense to win look at that mcdonalds person who spilt hot coffee on themselves. Sue enough and you can win.
The WARN act contains no such loophole, and severance pay is legally distinct from payroll...
Eniff
As I understood it they were still fully employed but their access was revoked.
Usually when you sign for the severance pay you also sign statements you will not hold the company for wrongful termination and they can
claw back the severance if you sue. Further right to work states usually have no such protections.Especially if you sign an at-will document
Mechman13
Maximum penalty is 60 days pay, if it's paid within three weeks of the closing there's no other penalty to the company
https://webapps.dol.gov/elaws/eta/warn/faqs.asp
mistermixelpix
Literally the only thing keeping Twitter afloat right now is there isn't an alternative with a big enough user base.
d3jake
Yet.
If Twitter and Mastodon were actual rivals like ATT/Verizon everyone would have jumped ship by now.
drinkthederpentine
I refuse to accept Mastodon as anything except an award winning progressive metal act.
They peaked at Leviathan and it sucks that every cool genre-blending metal act like them and Opeth just went for radio friendly rock.
Hushed and Grim was an awesome return to form, still modern. Crack the Skye is their best work imo
Unclescam
Remember kids, if Twitter fails, Muskrat will lose a big chunk of Tesla.
empath
Don't threaten ME with a good time!
PirateRubberDuck
I have but one account to delete, but I forgot my password so I will just be ignoring it.
smashpro1
lljkstonefish
Tesla has done it's job, bringing EVs to the forefront. I care not. But if this hurts SpaceX, that's gonna hurt all mankind a bit.
Starship is aiming so fucking far ahead of every other launch vehicle. No-one else can step in and continue the work, yet.
Dude's a prick, no question, but getting us out of the 1980s Shuttle slump and out of the gravity well is something we can all benefit from.
CormacTheCat
Genuine question: what are the benefits to all mankind (and how do they outweigh the benefits of investing the funding elsewhere)?
Having a way off this rock is nice. Humanity is one large asteroid away from extinction. Colonising other rocks will eventually solve that.
Also, the asteroid belt has ridiculous amounts of resources for the taking. Starting to mine that will push us towards the "post scarcity"..
.economy in which no-one squabbles over resources any more because everyone has "enough". That includes living space, via O'Neill cylinders.
SithElephant
Twitter had problems. They've pretty much all gotten worse. Content moderation is fucking expensive. And 'AI' isn't the right way.
QuigleyDownUnder
AI is awesome, just look at these totally normal looking hands created by artificial intelligence.
Hal1918
Content moderation causes trauma so perhaps AI might help blunt worse impact? (https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-57088382)
Weeel. Lack of proper content moderation, and the imapcts of wrongful decisions also cause trauma.
sparmek
Not you but I hate the argument that it's expensive. How many human mod employees could the hire with all that profit?
Twitter was losing about $1bil a year for the last 5 years when rumors of a buyout BEGAN - huge budget of 'research & development',...
...'R&D', presumably trying to automate moderation and the like.
That's fair. I wonder if they'd be in the same place if they had invested in people instead of the R&D for a tech that isn't there yet.
Sandyundertones
Personally, I hope that he tanks the company. Social media is a cancer and Twitter is malignant. Nothing good can come from it, ever.
jediknightswhosayni
Social media should be a boon to civilization. Unfortunately the worst among us use it as a tool to sow chaos.
OCTAVlAN
Facebook is slowly on its way out too! ...aybe slow but still Makes me smile
Travtwohander
The company was tanking before he bought it
The share price has been basically flat for five years. That's not tanking.
Yeah but Twitter has never turned a profit and has just been a financial black hole since it started
technically, it did for several years AIUI
yup8888
Imgur is not social media?
It is but no one takes this seriously
B99Reactions
Theres always this guy over here
twitter = social media with image/video hosting features, imgur = image/video hosting site with social features
Thank you for your answer, I don't know why this seems to be a sensitive definition.
I don't know, I haven't been a long time around here. I have always known it as a place of posting and commenting, quite social.
Maybe not created to be a social place, but quite social at the moment. There's a community, there's conversation and feelings.
I mean, I understand what you are saying, but where is the frontier and why does it matter?
Ironically, actual social media is not very social
Tracka
Thought it was still free to use…….
DoYouWantAntsBecauseThatsHowYouGetAnts
Let it burn. In fact, help it burn
ADegenFromUpcountry
Stable genius. The guy literally has the money to do ANYTHING he wants, but the unimaginative sack of crap spends his time shitposting smh
Redyls
let it burn!
Varenvel
PTK74
If you post that at Twitter, the ban you. Go do it. It's win-win.
Shaodyn
Blaming other people for the problems you caused is pretty common with right-wing nutjobs these days.
Shaodyn
Your average Republican would punch himself in the face and blame Democrats for the resulting black eye.
Absurdturd6969
He wasn’t wrong, also we need to defund ukraine asap. We are not world police and they aren’t part of nato.
DrKriegersClone
If Putin wins in this, he's just going to keep coming for more until he gets to something that is NATO. Ukraine fights for us all.
Dondarian
Just stop using twitter. Problem solved.
nasukkin
I really wish that he didn't dump all of these crack-shot engineers right in the middle of my own job search :\
PiercedViking
It's almost like Elon isn't actually an intelligent man!
BettyBoopRidesAgain
Is it possible that he is purposefully killing Twitter?
LarvaLamp
manulofdoom
He isn't smart enough
BullfightERT
que risa con los mugrosos
whadyameanthatnamestaken
What a dipshit.
owlcatsanctuary101
Who cares. It's a toxic sinkhole anyway, better be rid of it.
amiurume
Deleted my accounts today.
SecretAgentSuperBooger
fnoigy
Problem is, his fans will totally buy the story
quade
My favorite part so far was the employee on their way out who suspended Ole Muskey's account
PileOfWalthers
Yeah that wasn’t the real Elon Musk account. Upper case i instead of lower case L.
quade
Well, poo.
XEndeadX
It's not even what "used to be free" because now that anyone can buy it it means nothing.
JCstormz
morning news is he's asking some fired people to come back....what a fucking joke
JCstormz
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-11-06/twitter-now-asks-some-fired-workers-to-please-come-back
manulofdoom
I hope they are smart enough to tell him to go fuck himself
ADegenFromUpcountry
From the article: “…laid off by mistake” yeah right.
tlamstrike
tlamstrike
https://9to5mac.com/2021/07/13/twitter-verification-of-bots/
tlamstrike
https://mashable.com/article/instagram-verification-paid-black-market-facebook
tlamstrike
I wonder how many are angry with Twitter because they paid $15K in bribes to get their blue checkmark.
tr26
$13bil in high risk bank loans at about 12% interest. He’s a business GENIUS
laurafrancesca
Genius like the Cheeto in chief was
tr26
Exactly! A very stable one!
themorebeer
He only blasted Shitter for months because he was trying to get out of his promise to buy it. A promise that could cost him Tesla.
themorebeer
Granted, he's still blaming the Woke mob for his own misdeeds.
kaitco1984
My conspiracy theory: Musk is taking down Twitter intentionally for Trump after they silenced him.
ProgeriaProstitutes
If twitter goes down, Musk goes with it.
BeetBoxer
If true, Ol Musky would've been smart to get paid in advance.
Hashbrown123
Why shoot himself in the foot like that though?
seehemewe
B/c he is a man child.
Radix865
I doubt it, he bought it to silence the people who made fun of him. And Twitter is going down because he has no idea what he's doing...
n0n53n53
It's bigger than Trump. Musk and Putin want to control the western narrative. The MAGA/GOP are pawns in that game but they don't know it yet
secondtalon
Why would Musk give a flying fuck at a rolling doughnut about Trump? Elon's idiocy is standing alone on it's own two feet.
kaitco1984
They’ve always been in cahoots. Musk is the type who would admire Trump and he parrots a lot of Trumpisms.
secondtalon
You know, I was going to say that the relationship was just business, but seeing what a shitty businessman Elon is, maybe you're right.
seehemewe
The $8 problem isn't that it used to be free, it's that the check mark was something that money couldn't buy.
atomright2718
Both?
[deleted]
[deleted]
seehemewe
Well then all those people who bribed a twitter employee are going to feel cheated when it loses all it's value
fireflyseasontwo
lucivjov
BettyWhiteSupremacy
Well, well, well. If it isn’t the consequences of his own actions.
KillingTlme
"sought-after blue check marks"
Skuggen
Desire to work somewhere management is just now realizing experience matters: 0. Desire to work for Elon Musk: -∞
TacoThePerson
Is this that billionaire smarts and work ethic I hear so much about? He should pull himself up by his bootstraps and write his own code.
gadaboutpoet
vahnn
Why does Twitter employ "human rights teams?" Genuine question.
fireflyseasontwo
https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/elon-musk-twitter-employees-layoffs-b2218097.html
Elkarlo77
EU. Twitter faces an EU Ban if it doesn't curate this things. Freespeech has some limits in the EU, Musk is gonna find out.
DiscountOneLiners
“Sure musk! I can come back in Monday to help you with that, but my new salary will be $200,000 with a $30,000 sign on bonus.”
WeAllLiveInAUserSubmarine
Ask for double if you're gonna be doing twice the work
Whydoeseveryonebelieveme
They laid off the senior engineers. Gotta pump those numbers way up.
skolyr
Sr Software Engineers were median $153k/yr base + $26k bonus + 52k stock options for ~231k. I'm sure at least one will leverage a +50% bump.
Smidge204
Bonus: Class action lawsuit for not giving legally required advanced notice of layoffs...
MeatPopsicleMultiPass
Won't go anywhere. The 3 months severance is a legal loophole. Still on payroll, but cut off from twitter. My company does it.
GrogMetron
the law doesnt need to make sense to win look at that mcdonalds person who spilt hot coffee on themselves. Sue enough and you can win.
Smidge204
The WARN act contains no such loophole, and severance pay is legally distinct from payroll...
Eniff
As I understood it they were still fully employed but their access was revoked.
DiscountOneLiners
Usually when you sign for the severance pay you also sign statements you will not hold the company for wrongful termination and they can
DiscountOneLiners
claw back the severance if you sue. Further right to work states usually have no such protections.Especially if you sign an at-will document
Mechman13
Maximum penalty is 60 days pay, if it's paid within three weeks of the closing there's no other penalty to the company
Mechman13
https://webapps.dol.gov/elaws/eta/warn/faqs.asp
mistermixelpix
Literally the only thing keeping Twitter afloat right now is there isn't an alternative with a big enough user base.
d3jake
Yet.
mistermixelpix
If Twitter and Mastodon were actual rivals like ATT/Verizon everyone would have jumped ship by now.
drinkthederpentine
I refuse to accept Mastodon as anything except an award winning progressive metal act.
mistermixelpix
They peaked at Leviathan and it sucks that every cool genre-blending metal act like them and Opeth just went for radio friendly rock.
drinkthederpentine
Hushed and Grim was an awesome return to form, still modern. Crack the Skye is their best work imo
Unclescam
Remember kids, if Twitter fails, Muskrat will lose a big chunk of Tesla.
empath
Don't threaten ME with a good time!
PirateRubberDuck
I have but one account to delete, but I forgot my password so I will just be ignoring it.
smashpro1
lljkstonefish
Tesla has done it's job, bringing EVs to the forefront. I care not. But if this hurts SpaceX, that's gonna hurt all mankind a bit.
lljkstonefish
Starship is aiming so fucking far ahead of every other launch vehicle. No-one else can step in and continue the work, yet.
lljkstonefish
Dude's a prick, no question, but getting us out of the 1980s Shuttle slump and out of the gravity well is something we can all benefit from.
CormacTheCat
Genuine question: what are the benefits to all mankind (and how do they outweigh the benefits of investing the funding elsewhere)?
lljkstonefish
Having a way off this rock is nice. Humanity is one large asteroid away from extinction. Colonising other rocks will eventually solve that.
lljkstonefish
Also, the asteroid belt has ridiculous amounts of resources for the taking. Starting to mine that will push us towards the "post scarcity"..
lljkstonefish
.economy in which no-one squabbles over resources any more because everyone has "enough". That includes living space, via O'Neill cylinders.
SithElephant
Twitter had problems. They've pretty much all gotten worse. Content moderation is fucking expensive. And 'AI' isn't the right way.
QuigleyDownUnder
AI is awesome, just look at these totally normal looking hands created by artificial intelligence.
Hal1918
Content moderation causes trauma so perhaps AI might help blunt worse impact? (https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-57088382)
SithElephant
Weeel. Lack of proper content moderation, and the imapcts of wrongful decisions also cause trauma.
sparmek
Not you but I hate the argument that it's expensive. How many human mod employees could the hire with all that profit?
empath
Twitter was losing about $1bil a year for the last 5 years when rumors of a buyout BEGAN - huge budget of 'research & development',...
empath
...'R&D', presumably trying to automate moderation and the like.
sparmek
That's fair. I wonder if they'd be in the same place if they had invested in people instead of the R&D for a tech that isn't there yet.
Sandyundertones
Personally, I hope that he tanks the company. Social media is a cancer and Twitter is malignant. Nothing good can come from it, ever.
jediknightswhosayni
Social media should be a boon to civilization. Unfortunately the worst among us use it as a tool to sow chaos.
OCTAVlAN
Facebook is slowly on its way out too! ...aybe slow but still Makes me smile
Travtwohander
The company was tanking before he bought it
SithElephant
The share price has been basically flat for five years. That's not tanking.
Travtwohander
Yeah but Twitter has never turned a profit and has just been a financial black hole since it started
SithElephant
technically, it did for several years AIUI
yup8888
Imgur is not social media?
Sandyundertones
It is but no one takes this seriously
B99Reactions
Theres always this guy over here
B99Reactions
twitter = social media with image/video hosting features, imgur = image/video hosting site with social features
yup8888
Thank you for your answer, I don't know why this seems to be a sensitive definition.
yup8888
I don't know, I haven't been a long time around here. I have always known it as a place of posting and commenting, quite social.
yup8888
Maybe not created to be a social place, but quite social at the moment. There's a community, there's conversation and feelings.
yup8888
I mean, I understand what you are saying, but where is the frontier and why does it matter?
B99Reactions
Ironically, actual social media is not very social