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SomethingSomethingTraLaLa
86k people moved to Seattle between February 2016-17. I am not at all surprised.
MountainLionPhoto
It's almost as if those are expanded suburbs around giant metropolitan areas...
MrDirtyEars
I'm surprised I don't live in one of those dots (Las Vegas)
Dinwiddie
Because Las Vegas has a large transient population, and Clark county covers a large area.
GuestChrist
That's why Donald Trump's beloved map is so red.
madjecks
And a misrepresentation of the country.
steorotypicalFatGuy
That's funny, almost all murders happen in the dark shaded area.....
steorotypicalFatGuy
https://crimeresearch.org/2017/04/number-murders-county-54-us-counties-2014-zero-murders-69-1-murder/
FuzzieLumpkins
and this is why we have the electoral college
CouchCarrot
Great. Just great. Now the North Koreans know where we are.
thinkinthatheneedsit
EIonMusk
OfficialBenderRodriguez
lol my county is that one by itself in the middle of Michigan... Grand Rapids ftw
perhapsthisusernameisnottakenyet
Thanks! Was wondering where I'd live if I ever moved to the US. I know which counties to avoid :)
fenix1441350
Des Moines Iowa isn’t that big. Map is a lie.
shinyRK9
this just in! areas with high population densities have lots of people living there
cunninglinguist85
Meanwhile here in the UK
GodCommentMaker
People like to settle near the water
Fawin
I see that I do in fact live in one of the shaded areas.
YourFriendlyNeighborhoodWizard
Haha! My county is just outside the shaded area! Look for the mini Minnesota inside Minnesota.
DukeDarkwood
Ditto (Lake Co., IN).
wahsome
That means you're shady
Textuality
I don't!
JusteerLurkin
Same. Direct sunlight is overrated.
TotorosWhiskers
Oh damn, I can to laugh at you all and I'm currently sitting in one :/
SirWadeWilson
Me too!
TheBasementNerd
Hmmm, I apparently don't. Go Asheville!
screamingwinemaker
About to move out of a shaded area and couldn't be happier.
djbigley
50/50 chance
JustStella
Same! Tampa, FL. No wonder it takes me so long to get to work.
ThatOneGuyFromTheThing
Or getting to the beaches on that end, oof. From usf to clear water with traffic was AWFUL
ActualKangaroo
Same, even in Utah
TheUtahn
:(
meowarina
Me too! St Louis surrounding area
grandmastonguekiss
Can I zoom in and see you? What color shirt are you wearing? Can you wave?
ImpossiblePopsicleObstacle
My shirt is purple, like everyone else's in this photo.
koopaya
My shirt is white because I live directly on a state border
jeandolly
May I point out that most of the shady areas are next to water and that the US has just pulled out of the climate accord?
sangatster
Yes you may.
DoYouHaveYourTowel
I’m so screwed- New Orleans
TearingAway
Oy, it used to be a massive coral reef where i live now and ive bought property that will be waterfront in a few thousand years. Long game.
FranxNBeans
How old is this map?
Whyareyoudoingthis
Whats with the random counties?
ForTheRepublic212th
It’s... statistical
Whyareyoudoingthis
No Im saying that in New Mexico there are no where near as many people as in California is it random shading?
DingDongYourOpinionIsWrong
No wander I hate where I live too many goddamn people
PUBspotter
Even some of those are misleading. Most of the shaded counties in Colorado are rural outside of the Denver area.
PUBspotter
Hell, a good portion of Denver's Land area is DIA, because it's in the city/county limits.
ggccuser9
How is Phoenix not shaded? It undoubtedly has a larger population than Minneapolis which is shaded. Something sketch about this map
MorrighanWolf
Sketchy as hell.
smittywjmj
Because the counties add up to 50%, it's not just a map of the most populated counties in the country.
puppysmuggler
East to west the counties become larger and fewer. They must have just said fuck it on the move westward.
smittywjmj
More land being owned by fewer people 100 years ago means larger counties.
puppysmuggler
Makes sense
311822
How did Omaha make it but not Colo. Springs?
dingofdong
Could be done on population density, not absolute population of each county. Not saying it is, just that it could be a viable explanation
Rohkhos
Because the map creator was going for 50% of the population, not most populous cities.
CaveCanem
How did Omaha of Douglas county make it, but not Lincoln in Lancaster? Sarpy county has half the population of Lancaster.
axiomatik
There are a bunch of major cities missing. No Phoenix or Las Vegas for example.
mwoodman
People who live in Nebraska are naturally more dense. Denser. They are the denserest.
Ginkawa
you can buy a nice house with a yard and gigabit internet for well under 200k though. even in the city.
IProvideFakeContext
Not in all of Lincoln, but we're working on that. Thanks, Allo!
SumnerK
If it weren't for the elec col, a politician would only need to campaign and spend in 4 -5 of those areas. THIS is why we have the elec col.
VesselOfHate
That's a myth. It takes the top like 85 cities to make a good portion. If you're really curious I'll look it up when I can have sound
TheFlyingSheep
Instead they focus only on swing states
Fedotia
If 85% of people are city people then they get to govern, unless owning large land makes you more enlighted for some reason.
hip2bsquare
Since you continue to make uneducated rants - The law is setup to protect the rights of the individual, not the masses. If a majority of 1/2
hip2bsquare
people voted to lynch you and hang you from a tree, should they be able to because they are a majority?
GadenKerensky
Where's Hope County? I swear that place has half the country's population, and they keep dying.
ssjalhazred
That even holds true to the very end!
Rifneno
Right? Fucking Soviet army didn't throw away their lives the way that fucking cult does.
GadenKerensky
Even the Soviet Army didn't seem to have as many people as this cult.
Rifneno
Or the weapons. Thousands of machine guns, hundreds of helicopter gunships and light bombers...
GadenKerensky
WHICH THEY KEEP CRASHING.
Ravenbreaker
Swear to god when I first started it took me like 30 minutes to get off the road because trucks kept coming from both directions..
TanithRosenbaum
Florida?
SecretaryNotSure
False: there are no counties in Louisiana
MyFrontPorchInMississippi
Because Louisiana never got the French beaten out of it like it should have. Jefferson should be ashamed.
AxelYamanaka
We should sell Louisiana to Quebec and they can be a soveriegn french abomination together
MyFrontPorchInMississippi
We could sell it for like a penny an acre and make a profit
GreedyWildcard
Toe-may-toe poe-tah-toe.
qyrriqat
Parish the thought!
Dantastic1993
This is why we still have the electoral college
IWasInThePool
No it isn't.
Skywatcher16
no. its why the EC needs a SERIOUS update. while it is important that everyone see representation, one MUST admit that such representation 1
FuzzieLumpkins
WROOOOOONG. The electoral college isnt an exact representation of population. it is meant to give each state a voice in how it is goverened
Skywatcher16
should, at least to a certain degree, reflect population density, and not by giving areas with less people more power than those with more
Dantastic1993
Most of those states have the most electoral votes anyways what are you talking about
Dantastic1993
Try telling that to middle America haha
Skywatcher16
oh i know. the worst part is, im not in one of the shaded areas either. but come on. why should 10 people get 1 representative cause 1/2
Skywatcher16
they live rural aqnd only for that reason, when 1000 city folk are forced to share that same single representative? its insanity!
PianoMan2112
Doesn’t that mean half the population gets way less than half the vote?
FuzzieLumpkins
No, it means that this country is a union of states who each get a vote in how they are governed. Instead of 1-2 cities deciding for all
RavensX1X
Except that voting districts are based off of population, so, not really.
batosai33
Yes, but then the leadership country isn't selected by and policy only written for, people who only live in densely packed urban centers.
AxelBeingCivil
It'd be more a case of equal representation. That is, if people in the country are 15% of the population, they get 15% of the seats.
VesselOfHate
So the leadership is selected by and policy is written for people who live in less densely packed areas. As though that's better.
vodkayou
Exactly. It gives the little counties a fighting chance
IZ42
So we're tossing the idea of equality out the window here? Country folks are worth more than city folks?
batosai33
As opposed to city folks are all that matter because there are more of them? 4 wolves and a sheep voting on dinner isn't fair either.
VesselOfHate
Yeah but you keep acting like if city people's votes counted evenly there'd be tyranny but if rural people's votes count more it's fair.
IZ42
Nah, it's more like 3 sheep at a dinner table and two are in agreement that grass is for dinner while 3 is clutching a shotgun and the
sahdad
I'm surprised Phoenix doesnt get a shaded area, it's in the top 10 largest cities in the nation.
justgivemeaminute
Not sure what’s going on in northern Utah either. I don’t think it even matches up with SLC
JustSayingYouHaventSeenMeAndBatmanInTheSameRoomBefore
The shaded counties are Salt Lake county and Davis county.
justgivemeaminute
Ah you’re right.
axiomatik
it might be because Maricopa County is very large (also Clarke County for Vegas) and author wanted to show smallest area possible.
previoustopcomment
thank gerrymandering, its split up into numerous less populous counties.
sahdad
The whole metropolis is in the Maricopa county.
SandboxMagician
Phoenix is #5 i believe. They just kicked Philly to #6.
SandboxMagician
https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/2017/05/26/philadelphia-residents-upset-phoenix-population/347589001/
yourmotherandIthinkyoushouldmoveout
AZ or NV doesn’t have a dark county but NM does.. NM.
sahdad
Right, and apparently El Paso Texas... bollocks.
sahdad
And apparently somebody doesnt like that we are thinking critically.
axiomatik
I’m guessing it would tip over 150%, so the map creator decided what stayed and what didn’t. Interesting choices though.
sahdad
There was certainly some picking and choosing with this map, which is weird, it's a sound idea but poor execution.
Lissyb
it's from the US census bureau so I don't think so
FrancisFulloffrenchpeople
This isn't a map of the most popular counties in the US, just a selection of counties until population = 50%
FrancisFulloffrenchpeople
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_most_populous_counties_in_the_United_States
Andalite
It's almost like the electoral college exists to make sure everyone across the board is represented as fairly as possible
Ginkawa
thats just blasphemy.
KhalFrodo
Then it does a shit job.
heynongman4pres
Quite the opposite actually...
Fedotia
Fair representation is one man - one vote. Not give extra power to a regional minority.
Nero12353245
Why does empty land get to vote
chiefs86
Cause it ain't empty.
Red2791
Thank you for understanding
IDoAllMyOwnStunts
This is why Hilary lost
IDoAllMyOwnStunts
...well there's a LOT of reasons why she lost
HandsomeSwede
Isn’t that the main one, though? She got the majority vote and still lost.
Sitzungen
but the president represents every American, no matter where you live, unlike congressmen or senators. The el. college kinda fucks that up.
Antclift
The president represents the nation, not the people, that's what the legislative branch is for.
Sitzungen
okay, you could look at it that way. Again, the nation as a whole, not subdivisions of electoral colleges.
Sitzungen
You do see the rationale behind electing a congressman based on districts vs a president that everyone votes for, yes? Congressmen...
Sitzungen
...represent their voters from their district, while the president represents us all. It shouldn't matter if you're in a city or not.
oddmog
That's actually a pretty decent spread 85% of people live in urban areas down here in Aus and we really only have a city every 1000km's
BottlelessGet
Yeah sounds the same as the UK really. Maybe every 1500km
lilcrabs
Damn son, that's 1 megameter
FailedCrate
That's cuz you barely have shade.
TheSensualLettuce
One day will reclaim the land we lost to the emus and reunify our country
Djmachale1
I wish the us used metric because I'm tired of being confused when others use it
oddmog
Well, you can still travel to Liberia and Burma/Myanmar unfortunately though the rest of the world went French instead of Roman.
SteerableWizard
Get off the drugs....there are multiple cities within 200 kms in rural areas...
oddmog
Town Vs City. I like Albury and Orange but they're not exactly full fledged cities.
SteerableWizard
Based on the definition of them being a City, I guess they are, and they beat living in the shithole that is Sydney, speaking from exp.
oddmog
I've just got my ties here in Sydney and the SO doesn't want to move. Country town living doesn't mean everything is correspondence.
SteerableWizard
Its a shithole. I flew down for work and its stinks, like literally reeks. Dirty, filthy shithole. Everywhere except the CBD is a dump.
ifuckinglovesquirrels
I love Orange, it’s got everything you need to live a simple yet comfortable life.
SometimesIUseAllOfMyCharactersAtOnceAndDontCareAboutTheConsequ
Can we get a map like this for aus?
igotalittlewilly
There totally is one! I don’t have it on me, so aren’t really helping you at all, but I promise it exists!
DemiLopez
But there animals try to kill you, in murica people try to kill you
RackhamTheRed
"try"... he says...
oddmog
And bears, bobcats and cougars. Australia is really bad due to our spiders and snakes but getting mauled to death bar crocs is REALLY rare.
BillNyeTh3NaziSpy
The heck are km's that some new gen x thing
dogmatix
fucking americans
ThickKaela
A kilometre. 1km = about 0.62 miles
ledious
It's also interesting that around 43% of this 50% that lives In the blue areas are progressives rather than conservative while only a measly
ledious
11% of the rest of the American population that lives in rural areas are progressives. I wonder why this is? Could it be because people who
ledious
Live in cities are more exposed to different cultures, races, and ideas while people In rural America are secluded In small communities that
ledious
Have not statistically changed In customs, race, and religion for over 50 years?
poopfarts666
WTF is a km?
lilcrabs
1000 m
youbigstupididiot
That thing that the rest of the world uses
Aliasname
Killer mammals.
Whyareyoudoingthis
Kim Meters are The Peoples Measurement.
ThickKaela
A kilometre. 1km = about 0.62 miles
poopfarts666
WTF is a metre?
ThickKaela
100 centimeters
poopfarts666
Ill take 10
krakau
He is either a retard or a troll. No need to answer him either way...
oddmog
Nah, it's just jibbing these guys are used to measuring things in cubits and fleece measurements the new fangled stuff they ridicule.
poopfarts666
My car gets 4 rods to a hogs head, and that's the way I likes it!
dirtmarker
Thats because everything in your country is trying to kill you. You have to huddle together for safety.
BillMolyneux
are you literally brain dead?
oddmog
Well, brown snakes are more deadly here than anywhere else but I'd also say it's because the majority of Aus is desert.
joderme
Box jellies, bull sharks, funnel web spiders, eastern browns, crocs, taipans, death adders...
BillMolyneux
i heard driving on roads is pretty dangerous too... /s
jakiskod10
Don't forget vegemite sandiches
IGaveYouDepression
Yeah, the desert surprise surprise is relatively unhabitable. Northern Territory manages to go well but that's about it.
joderme
Tell that to the aboriginals amirite?
ToothpasteInspector
I was waiting for a comment like this....
doinglordswork
unhabitable
ImgurIsPrettyNeat
Let’s start a poll. Who all lives in the shaded area?
Insomnia297
I didn't, and still don't. I fucking bailed on that dumpster fire of a nation.
iWillReverseIt
amathadroy
davise
Jabb4theHUTT
gowiththeflo
PlebofEarth
Lynne22
I used to live in one and then I moved to another
steelimus
cdownhour1
Kuhmeister
I don't!
Sea253
baddesthombre
UltraBooster
JudgeDeadpool
FallenAngelOne
TigerThief
tacocat
Yup. SF Bay Area here.
JayPeacock
Not me
CatsAndCoffeeAndCats
DixieLandDelight
Ekime187
Johnson county here
matt692007
hppyhppyhppy
Threads like this is why I fucking love this site..
MostLikelyNotWearingPants
NeVeRsCuRd
ForKnitsAndGiggles
KNIVESY
therealpopkiller
Cravanicus
thetastiestpastry
DoYouHaveYourTowel
Lavie154
Typicalcat
Ekime187
WaffleDestroyer
Chaltordin
MalePerson
TanithRosenbaum
I would live in one of the shaded areas if the map was of Germany.
tinytimbeckybright
Tampa here
Dyslexicbirch
I dont even live in that country
werewolffbarmitzvah
TheNameOfThisUserIsRelevant
blooregardqkazoo
SmellingThePsychosphere
Nope. Up in the not-represented-nearly-to-scale Alaska.
MarsBarsDM
Texas for the win
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ThatOtherMacAvoyWoman
I do. LA.
DoYouHaveYourTowel
LA or L.A.
ThatOtherMacAvoyWoman
Los Angeles.
MorrighanWolf
Anyone who lives in the US lives in one shaded area or the other. The map is bs cause they used NJ. NJ isn't that big
Ranmachan
Me
chiefs86
I actually live in one of the rare shaded areas that went red in 2016.
tristenislame
TheZacAttack
Partytor
Nope, Swedish
torsj
I always upvote swedes. Dansk her!
milofrank2
I do
Yookie
shaded area, shaded area~ I happened to read it in the melody of Yellow Submarine, works perfectly.
GameMakr24
... Many more of them... Live next door...
2short2tripIclimb0vershit
I dont know how to gif.....
prettierandyoungerbutnotanybetteroff
I just wonder how Albuquerque got a shaded area when Tucson and Las Vegas didn't o_O.
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Redbulloth
It's the most densely-populated state, so yeah it's gonna show up on this list.
summer18
I would say Las Vegas is more tourist-focused, aka not as many legal full-time residents?
Redbulloth
Las Vegas, IIRC is divided into multiple counties. Tucson may be as well, while Albuquerque may be all one county
Themuricanpole
Tucson is just pima county
klikklik1236
Surprisingly, I never have
dangerousDoc
Yo
StarrSmasherr
No
jordankothe9
https://strawpoll.com/54fbfz52
triplegay
Montana. Absolutely not.
mikekearn
I do.
PteBubblegum
No thanks Russia ;)
PteBubblegum
Y'all are way lose with your personal info. Didn't your parents teach you not to talk too strangers let alone tell them where you live.
DormantGolem
Theres atleast a few million in each of those areas good luck finding them
magoichi75
I do not thankfully
QuietGiant
SPONGEBOB SQUAREPANTS
FreakinFork
marifromky
Me.
fartharder
I do not, but I live right next to one.
GameMakr24
Me too. Makes for a long commute.
jofo97
I don't. I'm Dutch.
IDontReallyKnowAnything
WickedWay13
Los Angeles here
Gingersnap2369
I do. Omaha.
leevabug8888
I live in northwest South Carolina. It is shaded , but not heavily populated
sociallyparanoidadultchild
I live 20 minutes north of the Bronx...so probably
flippywizgig
Me.
Dartmuthia
I do not. Which is weird, because I live in a relatively big city
marifromky
Our metro area is somewhere around 425k last time I checked. Our area is shaded. What is your metro population?
Dartmuthia
2.2 million. I'm in Las Vegas
marifromky
Well damn. Census Bureau slipped! :(
turdpanther
about tree fiddy
marifromky
I'm laughing a lot harder than I should be
taxiandrotate
As someone who lives in one of those shaded areas, we musn't forget there's life outside our "progressive" bubble.
MjolnirCat
Kalliefornia
I’m in one of the shaded areas and it seems all the people around me only live in a bubble and refuse to come out.
skylin05
Lol my shaded area is conservative. I hate this place.
flippywizgig
I've lived in towns with less than 500 people and in large west coast cities, and places in between. Some viewpoints are just ill-informed.
RavensX1X
*most viewpoints
ApolloTheSpaceFox
I'm a dark purple and it's definitely not progressive here lmao
Nero12353245
Who lives in a bubble, the guy who lives in a city with a million other people or the guy that talks to the same five people every week?
squireltactics
Don't be rediculous, a place where everyone is the same is obviously the best nursery for new and interesting ideas.
dhulqarnayn
Probably both, because size doesn't effect how he's defining "bubble"?
Hashbrown123
The guy with the five people probably actually interacts with them other than just living in the same place as them.
iexist
They’re both bubbles. Silicon Valley here speaking from a rural upbringing
Catharthesis
Implying a million people telling you you’re right somehow makes you less biased than 5.
MorrighanWolf
A million people in a single city agreeing perfectly on politics? Lmafo.
Catharthesis
95% of Washington D.C. votes were blue. 4,556,124 people voted blue in NYC. 96% of Mesa Arizona votes red. People agree all the time.
IwishIwereKeithDavid
The place with all the port cities and other cultures doesn't seem like a bubble, place with only one culture would be a bubble
RanchoCucamonga
What bubble? Most of the country's population, educated folk, and economic output is in the cities, but we get the least say in elections.
CopperLeagueGaming
Nah enjoy your echo chamber leading you down to despair due to bad governance, and silly liberal ideologies.
datphone777365
Like proper standard education and healthcare right? Your right we just need armed under payed unsupported teachers and less billy on bob.
TheSexiestRaccoonEver
Hah, that’s a bold statement.
storebrandproductmascot
This needs to work both ways, though. I'm tired of being told that the people in cities are "libtards" who aren't "real Americans."
Catharthesis
Except liberals dominate the media.
Catharthesis
Not sure why this is downvoted. A vast majority of reporters SELF identify as liberal.
shinagami091
Merely calling someone unAmerican because they dont share your views is actually unAmerican.
CP3oh
Agree completely. I pay taxes, I vote, and fuck anyone who says I'm less "American" than them because I live and work in the city.
Vaanhalen
So you wear a pink hat and yell "no blood for oil" but also "trump needs to bomb Assad"?
SlurpGod
And our votes actually being worth less so that GOP keeps control of seats even when they get less votes.
Vaanhalen
Well don't be retarded. Theres plenty of great smart compelling people in every party and plenty of absolute idiots
heynongman4pres
Yeah but one party elected one of those idiots to be the President. It's not fucking equal.
Vaanhalen
Youre right someone won an election. But America saw greater incomptetence and corruption with Hillary than Trump, period. You gotta accept
heynongman4pres
Well HRC was never president so... ??? Also Trump and his cabinet have embroiled by corruption scandals since day 1 of his administration.
heynongman4pres
Moreover, Trump appears to be using the powers of the presidency to go after personal enemies, like Jeff Bezos... so no, man, I don't agree
heynongman4pres
Trump himself uses the presidency to promote his own businesses and enrich himself (see the rent the gov't pays in Trump Tower & Mar a Lago)
Vaanhalen
That. Before u give me that Hillary was a persecuted woman crap read "How I Lost" by Hillary Clinton, annotated & edited by a left wing
heynongman4pres
His cabinet appointees take bribes from industry in exchange for relaxed regulations; they abuse public funds for personal expenses, etc.
OnlyWantToSayOneThing
The problem comes if/when liberals living in cities outnumber conservatives in the rest of the state and therefor dominate every vote. 1/?
Fedotia
That's called one man - one vote, aka democracy.
OnlyWantToSayOneThing
"Each state sends two Senators to represent their state in the U.S. Senate." We have systems where "one man - one vote" isnt followed.
Abfallkonto
I don’t see a problem here.
OnlyWantToSayOneThing
Let me guess, if it was a conservative city dominating a liberal rural area then you would have a huge problem with it?
Abfallkonto
Nope. Majority rules mate. Texas is predominately conservative and cities like Austin are liberal. The knife cuts both ways.
SlurpGod
Whoever gets the most votes should win, regards of where the votes come from. Gerrymandering is cheating, and how GOP maintains control.
OnlyWantToSayOneThing
A city should not be able to vote a sheriff in for a city 60 miles away though. Nor should they be able to vote in laws for that other city.
OnlyWantToSayOneThing
Im not talking about a governor, or a president. I'm talking about laws within specific counties which can get overwritten. /end
wailiniazzarnelo
Your poor grasp of how democracy functions is frightening.
eggmuffin
That's not a problem, that's democracy. Majority rule.
OnlyWantToSayOneThing
Thats a dismal way of thinking of things. Im sure racists in early america said that to people who were against slavery all the time.
OnlyWantToSayOneThing
But I digress, majority where? If we just talked about rural areas then Majority would rule completely differently.
onlyawfulnamesleft
Uh, no. Representative parliamentary democracy should actually represent the makeup of the whole population, not just the majority.
eggmuffin
Obviously. Proportional representation is the only way democracy can work.
Chaimgoldbergenstein
The needs of rural folk differ wildly from those of city folk. Letting one control the other 24/7 is absurd; there's no universal solution.
eggmuffin
The solution is proportional representation.
OnlyWantToSayOneThing
And I can see smaller liberal cities being overvoted by the rest of the state being rural conservatives but that happens less often. 2/?
shinagami091
Anyone who lives in Texas as a Liberal can say this is true
storebrandproductmascot
Seems to happen a lot. Happened in PA, OH, and FL this past election.
dhulqarnayn
I think a lot of those cities in PA and OH had dead or dying industries and high unemployement and went R ...
OnlyWantToSayOneThing
And this is where I point to the later half of my comment chain, where this is a complicated issue. Thanks for bringing up examples!
OnlyWantToSayOneThing
Something like "the city makes 90% of the tax, but uses 98% of the tax money" sort of thing is more likely to happen an piss off rurals 3/?
OnlyWantToSayOneThing
and I agree, melting it down to "those damn libtards" simplifies a very complex issue that needs to be talked about. 4/4
heynongman4pres
No, cities generate far more in revenue than rural areas, generally. And account for less public spending. You have it backwards.
DamnedAustin
How could we forget them? We subsidize them so much!
Catharthesis
That’s because taxes are intrinsically higher in blue areas.
FilthyRapscallions
Do you enjoy going to the grocery store? I live out of a shaded area and am left, but it isn’t lost on me that we rely heavily on farmers.
DamnedAustin
I never said anything about farmers.
JayDubs11211
Most of our food comes from corporate owned farms just FYI, not too many family farms making a lot of money these days.
GeorgeHWBushsGhost
Don't belittle farmers, they play a big part to play in the biggest economy in the world.
DamnedAustin
Where did I say anything about farmers?
GeorgeHWBushsGhost
What other industry in rural areas is subsidized?
DamnedAustin
It's not just industries. Tax revenue from the shaded areas goes to fund government programs in the non-shaded areas.
JayDubs11211
Mining, tourism in national parks, certain other energy related extraction (oil wells, fracking, etc.). A lot of it is subsidized.
Catharthesis
This is why Trump won.
TZO2k15
Exactly this, I've spent my years outside the gentrified enclaves to have seen it coming since dubya's 2nd term!
IwishIwereKeithDavid
Almost replied all mad till I realized it was a bit
HandsomeSwede
I’m sure that’s the entirety of the situation
Catharthesis
Obvs it was a fully complete political analysis and not a comment on liberal elitism. Way to show me by talking down to me about politics.
RanchoCucamonga
Fuck the electoral college. It's crazy that the least educated people have the votes that are the most powerful.
heynongman4pres
Eh, or there's just as equally a "Trump bubble" of mostly rural, talk radio listening, Fox News watching Americans. They're disconnected too
AgnesMcGillicuddy
Gerrymandering and superior election strategy is why Trump won. Headcount matters more than square footage.
Varimothras
The right headcount, apparently
Catharthesis
I’m sure it had nothing to do with Hillary Clinton being one of the most unelectable dems in years. once again discount rural areas... folly
storebrandproductmascot
Hillary told rural areas they'd have to retrain for new jobs. Trump told them he'd bring back the coal mines. Guess what they'd rather hear?
Millerah
Correct me if I'm wrong, but gerrymandering isn't a thing in the electoral college, as its a statewide popular vote for most states.
kojenk
Nope. the Electroral college has OTHER major issues
Millerah
Most indeededly. https://youtu.be/7wC42HgLA4k
kojenk
that was an "indeed nope" not a "deny nope"
MostLikelyNotWearingPants
You ain’t wrong.
blairmichod
Not per se. If the Constitution didn't make imaginary lines have more voting power than voters themselves, Clinton would have won.
blairmichod
Guys, I was being snide, not suggesting that we should do whatever California wants.
Southpaws7
Correct, because we are not a democracy and never were meant to be. The United States is a constitutional republic
blairmichod
If one person equaled one vote, we would still be a constitutional republic due to elected officials voting on actual policy.
Southpaws7
They equal 1, when it comes to electing legislatures, just not the President.
AxelBeingCivil
Progressive folks not remembering life existed outside cities in some way forced folks in the country to vote for a bigoted asshole?
GeorgeHWBushsGhost
The majority of people are bigots. Go educate yourself before you toss around buzzwords.
AxelBeingCivil
Someone who says there's fine people on "both sides" of a conflict where one side is Neo-Nazis seems to earn the title.
GeorgeHWBushsGhost
Can Neo-Nazis be be misunderstood? Or does that only apply to feminists?
Catharthesis
Whereas people in the city were perfectly fine to vote for someone equally corrupt in different ways.
AxelBeingCivil
She wasn't, there really is a lesser evil here, but... That wasn't really my question. In what way were people forced to vote for Trump?
Catharthesis
Obviously people weren’t forced to vote for him, many voted him because they felt victimized by liberals. Agree or disagree that’s true.
SlurpGod
There's life in the regressive bubble alright, but not so much brain activity.
LebleuBenobi
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DoTheFandango86
It seems fitting that your upvote/downvote is 50 50. UK here.
SlurpGod
In th U.S. a lot of vote counts come down to a razor thin margin near the 50/50 line.
DoTheFandango86
I know, but not alot of votes on Imgur do.
Andalite
Here's a jokefor you: what do you get when, for decades, one group labels itself as the intellectual superior group, continually belittles
SlurpGod
HandsomeSwede
So they voted for Trump because their feelings were hurt? (And yes, I read your other comments)
CigaretteMan
Here's a joke for you: what do you get when, for decades, one group labels itself as the morally superior group, continually belittles
CigaretteMan
the other group as being weak, poor, immoral, and lazy? A Cheeto in the White House.
CigaretteMan
See how that goes? At best, the right is as guilty of that sin as the left.
Chaimgoldbergenstein
But the group that did this--blue-collar white people--voted democrat up until recently. Your point doesn't stand.
Andalite
the other group as being dumb, poor, uneducated, and lazy? A Cheeto in the White House. Now, me, personally, I'd rather not have to go
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
I mean, when that group continually forces bronze age morality on others at the expense of constitutional rights, I dont know why it would
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
expect anything but disdain.
Andalite
through another four years of this guy, plus however many more terms they give to someone who DOESN'T belittle them at every fucking turn,
Andalite
so maybe, just goddamn maybe, we could all cool it with the holier-than-thou attitude, and build some fatherfucking bridges instead of
storebrandproductmascot
So if you call people dumb and uneducated, they end up proving you right and then blaming you for it?