I know this is a weird thing to fixate on, but didn't he only have one bullet wound? The blood fell onto his shirt, but that oughta look like a splatter, not a circle.
People are constructing a story where the shooter actually aimed for the chest, like a "properly trained sniper" and the bullet digned off his (non-existent) body armor, being redirected to this throat. It's pretty dumb.
I'm sad. I wish he'd be shot in the spine, and was paralysed for life and needing to eat from a straw, but still fully cognisant of how he brought this on himself. Instead, he was merely euthanised.
He's definitely in the bad place and he has to perpetually listen to the dead child victims of gun violence constantly ask him if it was worth it, and how they miss not having a chance at a life where they could grow up and enjoy life... robbed by a crazed far-right gunman.
He wakes up with a child's body in a bloody, dark, school. He's stalked through the halls by something twice his size. There's no escape, eventually it will find him and destroy him in ways he can only barely comprehend. Then, he has to wake up and do it again...
ok - honestly I don't even celebrate the death - only the end of his bad actions, and I'm not even sure it will be a net positive with the upcoming martyrdom
Why I hope the Christians are right; Bible says "repent and be saved", and not one of these assholes holds any remorse for their hatred. Saying "I believe in Jesus" isn't a magic spell, but they sure treat it like one. I'm not religious, but I'm happier imagining these assholes eventually get what's owed.
As tragic as it is to have anyone, especially kids being killed, you have to understand that what Charlie said is manipulated, no context. He was stating that it is an unfortunate price to pay to have some gun deaths every year, but necessary to be able to keep what rights we have. It isn't about keeping the right to guns, it's a bargaining chip to keep the government from overstepping. You people who believe the current government is turning tyrannical should actually be agreeing with Charlie.
Posting this because OP was a coward and deleted his comment in reply to my above comment. Posting it here so he can eternally be known for proving my point, and being an absolute degenerate of a human being.
Sure! What he actually demonstrated was how some people cherry-pick Biblical passages, and of course, was taken out of context which seems to happen a lot around here.
You're arguing that he didnt say it, and now i have to prove to you that he did? where's your proof that he was demonstrating bad faith christians? We can go back and forth with this or you can admit you liked the guy and agreed with his platform and i can start hating you
I got a screenshot of your last comment to me, but you were coward and deleted. Why did you delete it? Be proud of what you think, about how you think I should be shot for having a different opinion. Go ahead and be proud! I have the screenshot of it! Be proud of what you said! Because you said it and proved my point!
I’m gonna get downvoted for this but they are… just in the ground. No heaven or hell, no celestial gotcha or reckoning for all the dead. I get the sentiment, but I’m getting Christian carrot rather than Christian stick so it brings me no comfort. (In my defence ive been reading a lot of Christopher Hitchens) But you’re right something is broken.
They aren't. Notice the cloud beneath the children and not beneath Kirk. They're only making a momentary holographic visit to purgatory where Kirk awaits his final demise.
When you die you are put through the pain you’ve caused everyone through out your life or through residual pain (ie Charlie incites violence towards a group, someone goes out and tortures/harms/kills one of those people, Charlie pays for this in the afterlife by going through the pain he’s caused everyone that loved that person) until you have gone through it all and repented for it. Until you are truly sorry. Then your spirit can ascend. Be kind and love everyone and try not to cause pain.
If something is true, it remains true unless the conditions change, making it no longer true. In life Kirk had to answer these same questions. Now that he can't, judgment has been passed. Doesn't get much more brutal.
The trope has the freshly meat-free soul stand before the Pearly Gates to Heaven, where St Peter checks a big book of nice and naughty, and then kicks the bad ones down to Hell—not before they get a glimpse of what they're missing.
Don't hound people who believe in one either, you have as much proof as they do that it does or does not exist. Im not a believer either, however you can also let people have their beliefs as long as they are not shoving them into your face.
So does the other, again Im not a believer in the afterlife but someone believing in it isn't an innate bad thing unless they are forcing it at you. Some people need that to come to terms with things and there is no need to be abrasive with them about it. Save for Kirk here, I hope there is one just so he can suffer for what he has done.
No. Religion is inherently harmful and we should stop acting like it isn't a mass delusion. It normalizes belief without evidence, the consequences of such should be pretty fucking apparent in the US right now. You think you're making a point with "you have as much proof as they do that it does or does not exist" but you're not. That isn't how rational people form conclusions. I have no proof a teacup isn't orbiting Jupiter right now. Should I assume one is? Is the person claiming "look, I [1/2]
just feel like there's a teacup out there and you can't prove there isn't" on equal footing with the person claiming "there's no reason to believe that there is and therefore I don't believe it"? Why would you believe anything without evidence? [2/2]
Contrary to what the Christofascists interpret on the Bible, Jesus supposedly came to earth to forgive everyone. So if there is a heaven, Kirk is there. Because Christ's message is exactly the opposite to his.
This comment is fun because it misinterprets and misunderstands the bible EXACTLY as much as Christofascists do, but in the complete opposite direction.
That’s not what happened at all. At death you are sent to purgatory first. You must repent and the judge will determine if you truly believe are repentant. It’s a fucking retarded rule and I’m an atheist but this is how it’s written.
according to the bible Jesus only died for "the original sin" so that humans are born without sin.... everything we do after is oure own shit to deal with later at the gate
Eventually, but first you experience every second of pain you caused anyone through your actions whether directly or indirectly. Once you have truly repented and feel guilty and wash yourself clean of the darkness you perpetuated, then your soul can ascend. Hell comes first, then eventually heaven.
so everybody goes to heaven and there's no hell? Then why are there always assholes screaming about fire and brimstone to every same sex couple or trans person they see?
Because they really didn't understand the message of the middle eastern carpenter who befriended prostitutes, leppers and foreigners, and kicked the rich out of the temple
Roman Catholics believe pretty much the opposite - you and everyone else are still born with original sin from Adam and Eve eating the apple and the best thing you can do is get baptized, go to confessionals, get communions and get confirmation....and even then you still have to consistently live the life of a good person and continue confessionals and communion until you die because you still have to earn the salvation he gave, it's not a blank cheque.
TheButtInButterfly
He'd probably say yes .Can't admit wrong
idiotsonfire
Nazis never admit wrongdoing.
VodkaReindeer
Wasn't it only one shot?
lightfoot2
Guy was like Morton Downey Jr. To him it was just a job, feeding others to the lions. Good riddance, some jobs you just do not do.
Shawnofavitch
He lost that argument by a long shot...
GreenMnM
That guy went straight to hell. No doubt about it.
Unknownhost7
Charlie don't surf!
Neednoggle
I have to assume that this was just a brief stop on his way to The Bad Place.
FizzleBurger
I know this is a weird thing to fixate on, but didn't he only have one bullet wound? The blood fell onto his shirt, but that oughta look like a splatter, not a circle.
MadnerKami
People are constructing a story where the shooter actually aimed for the chest, like a "properly trained sniper" and the bullet digned off his (non-existent) body armor, being redirected to this throat. It's pretty dumb.
Sebastopol140
If there is a heaven there's no way he lands there.
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
he's not on the cloud
RyanH42
This implies he's in Heaven.
MrTimsel
You see the kids standing in the clouds - he isn't. A trapdoor opens up below him. He is only given some seconds time to realize what the kid said.
magus200342
Nah, he never made it thay far. Hope they didn't bury him in a sweater.
bobgunrunnersmith
https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1eTlwcW4xeG9peGh5OXFhcjJ1azUzZ3k0ODhnM2tndnIzYWZ2NTF0dyZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/hB5vNhUepvcek/200w.webp The actual greeting party.
DdCno1
Including these two things:
DeepThought42
DeepThought42
hfctom
If there is a Hell I like to imagine it's that for him for eternity.
Hexidimentional
He'd be speaking to the school shooters not their victims
TheDoomBear
was he shot twice?
RElGNMAN
No fucking way in HELL is that douche going to heaven.
GuyPilot
I'm sad. I wish he'd be shot in the spine, and was paralysed for life and needing to eat from a straw, but still fully cognisant of how he brought this on himself. Instead, he was merely euthanised.
BlastyMcBlastblast
i can't imagine that prick is going 'upstairs', if you take my meaning
Fishkeeper
Maybe for like five minutes to get told exactly why he's not staying.
UristImiknorris
Only because the reception desk is up there.
KingRalf13
For the life of me, I can't imagine there even IS an upstairs. If you take my meaning.
cousteau
I like to think of it as a metaphorical "place", meaning how you are remembered in history. He is definitely in the downstairs place.
getadogupya
He's in the other place.
cytherians
He's definitely in the bad place and he has to perpetually listen to the dead child victims of gun violence constantly ask him if it was worth it, and how they miss not having a chance at a life where they could grow up and enjoy life... robbed by a crazed far-right gunman.

florpglorp
Notice he doesnt have a cloud to stand on
darkslyde
this is the bad place
Fengor
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
look at the cloud under the kids
cousteau
Oooh it's a Wile E. Coyote moment, isn't it?
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
hasn't looked down yet
wisher1977
The Good Place?
CreepyPhlox
This is his purgatory.
ironymus
That's a really good point.
johnvictor
He gets to listens to screams of children being shot and killed for all eternity.
justasuggesture
He wakes up with a child's body in a bloody, dark, school. He's stalked through the halls by something twice his size. There's no escape, eventually it will find him and destroy him in ways he can only barely comprehend. Then, he has to wake up and do it again...
cousteau
Nah, that might give him a hard on.
VitaminJay
He died as he lived.
Saying stupid, inflammatory shit with a smug look on his face.
cytherians
The right-wing is trying to canonize Charlie Kirk like Rush Limbaugh... ignoring all the horrible negativity he permeated through society.

smorsdoeuvres
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
he probably died in panic, feeling the blood pour out and realizing he was done for
VitaminJay
I saw the vid. He was gone before he knew it.
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
ok - honestly I don't even celebrate the death - only the end of his bad actions, and I'm not even sure it will be a net positive with the upcoming martyrdom
VitaminJay
They keep trying to martyr him, but people aren't buying it.
thedudeman519
"Not counting gang violence?"
*pop*
No I guess not.
BigDaddysMeatWagon
Dude would rather lose consciousness and bleed out than answer an actual question.
VitaminJay
The irony of that happening would be considered trite and hackneyed if written into a script.
SarcasticComment
this is why the Onion is struggling. Reality is an episode of Curb
Cilvaa
A pain in the neck
friendsofsandwiches
I hope before he answers, he suddenly realizes something, he's not on the cloud, starts to try and run for it, but then falls to hell.
Sticklebrickk
With scooby doo noises
DeepThought42
One of my family members said “well he was a Christian so at least he went to heaven” … not sure that is correct
Weavedaddy
Pretty sure Mat 7:21-23 says he's not making it into heaven
thejon
Why I hope the Christians are right; Bible says "repent and be saved", and not one of these assholes holds any remorse for their hatred. Saying "I believe in Jesus" isn't a magic spell, but they sure treat it like one. I'm not religious, but I'm happier imagining these assholes eventually get what's owed.
DeepThought42
Exactly. Wearing a cross while you torment strangers and starve children (or worse) doesn’t track towards a reward
grimmgaming
As tragic as it is to have anyone, especially kids being killed, you have to understand that what Charlie said is manipulated, no context. He was stating that it is an unfortunate price to pay to have some gun deaths every year, but necessary to be able to keep what rights we have. It isn't about keeping the right to guns, it's a bargaining chip to keep the government from overstepping. You people who believe the current government is turning tyrannical should actually be agreeing with Charlie.
DorkJedi
What charlie said is his own hate filled bigoted words. The difference is you agree with them.
grimmgaming
We can agree to disagree, I would hate to have too much of a different opinion, and get shot.
grimmgaming
Posting this because OP was a coward and deleted his comment in reply to my above comment. Posting it here so he can eternally be known for proving my point, and being an absolute degenerate of a human being.
Hexidimentional
Educate me, what was the context of him stating that i should be stoned to death?
grimmgaming
Sure! What he actually demonstrated was how some people cherry-pick Biblical passages, and of course, was taken out of context which seems to happen a lot around here.
Hexidimentional
He said it many times without the prompting a statement like that would require. But sure, try to sanewash his hatred.
grimmgaming
Can you pull it up for me? I'm genuinely curious
Hexidimentional
You're arguing that he didnt say it, and now i have to prove to you that he did? where's your proof that he was demonstrating bad faith christians? We can go back and forth with this or you can admit you liked the guy and agreed with his platform and i can start hating you
RecoveringIntrovert
Sybau clown
grimmgaming
I got a screenshot of your last comment to me, but you were coward and deleted. Why did you delete it? Be proud of what you think, about how you think I should be shot for having a different opinion. Go ahead and be proud! I have the screenshot of it! Be proud of what you said! Because you said it and proved my point!
RecoveringIntrovert
I am proud of it. Imgur deleted it pussy
DodgyMerchant
If they are in the same place, something is really broken
nothingunused
Maybe those kids were all the bullies and assholes? He'd still go to some lower plane of hell, though.
thatsbadmmkay
If god exists, he is a monster
arthurvanhoudt
This!!
CreepyPhlox
This is his purgatory. Before he gets sent to the final place.
myfirstandlastpostever
I’m gonna get downvoted for this but they are… just in the ground. No heaven or hell, no celestial gotcha or reckoning for all the dead. I get the sentiment, but I’m getting Christian carrot rather than Christian stick so it brings me no comfort. (In my defence ive been reading a lot of Christopher Hitchens) But you’re right something is broken.
GeorgeCostabaplaps
He's facing the avatars of his destruction, imho. Bon chance avec Yabuta's paradise
GeorgeCostabaplaps
Sorry Yamarahj's abode
JoylessGreyhound
It's metaphor innit mate. There is no afterlife anyway.
porphyre1e00
Being condemned to Hell should involve periodic field trips to Heaven to be reminded what you're missing.
cytherians
They aren't. Notice the cloud beneath the children and not beneath Kirk. They're only making a momentary holographic visit to purgatory where Kirk awaits his final demise.
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Greypuppy
For once I'm being serious, that is some The Jaunt level nightmare stuff right there.
tidepool
When you die you are put through the pain you’ve caused everyone through out your life or through residual pain (ie Charlie incites violence towards a group, someone goes out and tortures/harms/kills one of those people, Charlie pays for this in the afterlife by going through the pain he’s caused everyone that loved that person) until you have gone through it all and repented for it. Until you are truly sorry. Then your spirit can ascend. Be kind and love everyone and try not to cause pain.
qwertdeep
Maybe it doesn’t have to represent an abrahamic version of the afterlife
MageEpic
Dog heaven is squirrel hell
invaderjak
They are who he faces for judgement
Yosser
That's a belief I could get behind.
InnerBushman
I'm an atheist but I like the idea.
Elsoyyo
That's brutal.
invaderjak
If what they believe is true, he and others like him deserve no less
Elsoyyo
If something is true, it remains true unless the conditions change, making it no longer true. In life Kirk had to answer these same questions. Now that he can't, judgment has been passed. Doesn't get much more brutal.
DWandRFaremyspiritbeings
He's not on the clouds. He's just getting a little judgement before being rocketed into the lowest levels of hell at the speed of light.
LicensedAdHominem
The trope has the freshly meat-free soul stand before the Pearly Gates to Heaven, where St Peter checks a big book of nice and naughty, and then kicks the bad ones down to Hell—not before they get a glimpse of what they're missing.
IhopeUgetwhatUvoted4
Dead is dead.
SpikedDoggos
The earth takes us all
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
until we start yeeting meatbags into the Sun, but that's an actual waste of energy and organic matter
SpikedDoggos
User name checks out
Can I go into low orbit? Then I can burn up on re-entry, maybe a momentary light show and my atoms eventually get reclaimed?
😁
(I dunno, maybe that doesn't work, I'm not a scientist)
invaderjak
My plan is human composting
Greypuppy
I want them to yeet me DIRECTLY into a woodchipper at the funeral, turn me into the best goddamn vegetable patch this state has ever seen
invaderjak
Only if the first 3 rows get rain coats, like at a Gallagher show
SergeantMajorSpoiler
They are - in the ground. Don't kid yourselves with fairytales of afterlife.
IncognitoEnthusiast
Don't hound people who believe in one either, you have as much proof as they do that it does or does not exist. Im not a believer either, however you can also let people have their beliefs as long as they are not shoving them into your face.
SergeantMajorSpoiler
Burden of proof is a thing, you might wanna look it up. "Prove that Voldemort *isn't* real!"
kerms
Supernatural claims carry a pretty heavy burden of proof, just for the record.
IncognitoEnthusiast
So does the other, again Im not a believer in the afterlife but someone believing in it isn't an innate bad thing unless they are forcing it at you. Some people need that to come to terms with things and there is no need to be abrasive with them about it. Save for Kirk here, I hope there is one just so he can suffer for what he has done.
itwasababyox
https://media1.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1a21tdm94b3g2OXczYmNpcjF3a3Q0aHB0YjVxZjRyY2hyaDJqMjVubCZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/kd9BlRovbPOykLBMqX/200w.webp
Virus331
No. Religion is inherently harmful and we should stop acting like it isn't a mass delusion. It normalizes belief without evidence, the consequences of such should be pretty fucking apparent in the US right now. You think you're making a point with "you have as much proof as they do that it does or does not exist" but you're not. That isn't how rational people form conclusions. I have no proof a teacup isn't orbiting Jupiter right now. Should I assume one is? Is the person claiming "look, I [1/2]
AranaDiscoteca
Stop. Trying. To. Burn. Witches.
Virus331
just feel like there's a teacup out there and you can't prove there isn't" on equal footing with the person claiming "there's no reason to believe that there is and therefore I don't believe it"? Why would you believe anything without evidence? [2/2]
SergeantMajorSpoiler
No pun intended using an angel gif...
procrastinatorman
Contrary to what the Christofascists interpret on the Bible, Jesus supposedly came to earth to forgive everyone. So if there is a heaven, Kirk is there. Because Christ's message is exactly the opposite to his.
Psychonaught01
Yeah if heaven is real I don't want to be in a heaven where Hitler and his Nazi regime are along with countless other monsters throughout history
Badprenup
This comment is fun because it misinterprets and misunderstands the bible EXACTLY as much as Christofascists do, but in the complete opposite direction.
CreepyPhlox
That’s not what happened at all. At death you are sent to purgatory first. You must repent and the judge will determine if you truly believe are repentant. It’s a fucking retarded rule and I’m an atheist but this is how it’s written.
Stefnos
according to the bible Jesus only died for "the original sin" so that humans are born without sin.... everything we do after is oure own shit to deal with later at the gate
thedudeman519
So everyone goes to heaven? Awesome!
tidepool
Eventually, but first you experience every second of pain you caused anyone through your actions whether directly or indirectly. Once you have truly repented and feel guilty and wash yourself clean of the darkness you perpetuated, then your soul can ascend. Hell comes first, then eventually heaven.
invaderjak
so everybody goes to heaven and there's no hell? Then why are there always assholes screaming about fire and brimstone to every same sex couple or trans person they see?
procrastinatorman
Because they really didn't understand the message of the middle eastern carpenter who befriended prostitutes, leppers and foreigners, and kicked the rich out of the temple
invaderjak
Its all sunshine and roses when you only look at the parts you like
Dustorn
But what happened to the rich, then?
MostAwesomeDan
Roman Catholics believe pretty much the opposite - you and everyone else are still born with original sin from Adam and Eve eating the apple and the best thing you can do is get baptized, go to confessionals, get communions and get confirmation....and even then you still have to consistently live the life of a good person and continue confessionals and communion until you die because you still have to earn the salvation he gave, it's not a blank cheque.
RootMeanSqr
I wonder how many people lie or don't tell everything at confession?
ArchaeoEejit
Usually just pick 3 sins and say them every time.
RootMeanSqr
I knew there had to be trick. Is this taught an early age?