Feb 26, 2018 7:37 AM
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IainG101
Tiny warhead; think the shoulder nukes from Starship Troopers (the film, not the book) rather than bomber-deployed WMDs
VinerialBlumpkin11
Do most people not realize that just because it says nuclear doesn't mean it has to be catastrophically huge.
ArandomDane
I remember a lesson from basic training. "So... Our ally have these small nukes meant to be tossed so we only get slightly radiated...."
caassapaba
I'm still in a dream, SNAKE EATUUUUUHHH! [whispers]*snake eater*
andrefezzik
Davy, Davy Crockett King of the Wild Frontier; Davy, Davy Crockett, tipped with a warhead nuclear.
floatationman
To be fair, it was a wee tiny nuclear device.
AustralopithecusBoisei
The point is target elimination, not shooter survival...
liana77
Did not know this was real.
DocZero
That's nothing. Look up the SLAM missile. The real world makes Fallout look kinda sane.
ImgurDemonym
Pretty sure those were on Starship Troopers
MalePatternBlackness
They needed them since it took 1000 rifle rounds to kill a single bug and they still got in one last kill after they were dead.
Same crap in Alien, Halo, Destiny and every sci-fi shooter ever made. Have to reload after every kill.
WhoPutWhatInTheWhereNow
The "Davey Crocket" was used in 1963 by colonel Volgin of GRU to destroy the Granin research facility. Know your history
Danivuk
Nuke shell for the cone rifle, citizen, courtesy of friend computer.
karateninjazombie
Where the blast range IS bigger than the launch distance such a great game!
Bart1952
The Davy Crockett fired a Sub-Kiloton warhead, the Yield was somewhere between 10-20 tons the minimum practical size for a fission warhead.
DougDeNasty
Go here: https://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/ on the right, pick spot(1), you can choose the Davy Crockett warhead (2) and then hit detonate.
EnderW1gg1n
Man, I just heard about his on Stuff You Should Know... Like 20 minutes ago. Neat!
BigAdam
The standard deployment of the Davey Crockett was to drive away from what you wanted to hit, fire, and fucking floor it.
Metronomicon
Would have made more sense if they just made a foxhole before shooting to hide in.
Fallout is the issue, not the blast.
Fallout is a delayed effect subject to weather. It is also mitigated by protective gear.
MadLogTheGr8
Kill radius only 430m ... and you better run fast ;)
StevieTheAussie
Xeans
Remember the Alimo
HelloToe
ny
sowillo
Deserves some more upvotes
Crazywelderguy
Let's mount it on a jeep that can barely go 60 mph.
NatsukiIsMyWaifu
At least it's pointed backwards. They will be able to get away faster.
CatOnTheRoof
The shockwave will speed it well above that limit.
jebstat59365
From the 50s through the 70s, we needed Russia to believe we would use all manner of tactical nukes if they invaded Western Europe...
Sentinal32
https://imgur.com/ke7J0P8
irlborat
I've played enough MGS3 to know where this going
TheWombatStrikesAgain
I've played enough Fallout to know this will be awesome.
Squeleton
It leads to a brave war hero being detested by her own country while her pupil takes her place and gets all the glory? ;_;7
*sad harry gregson-williams plays*
shonasof
All the way to Tselinoyarsk
iheartdonut
Remember the Alamo!
pre1989
Two odd facts ..The min safe range was beyond the max range so guess run..And the training heads were DU filled and they cause issues in HI
haaska
No it wasn't
close though max range was 2.4 miles ..Lethal range was quarter mile ... So assuming even at 2.4 miles out with good wind you still get dose
SOAKLOGSINWOODS
Legal in 14 states.
FBKatB3TAdotcom
but is concealed carry legal?
jeandolly
Yes yes, this may seem a bit strange, but they do have an age requirement. It's not like a 15 year old can just buy a nuclear warhead lol.
Capnrory
if only the teachers at sandy hook had these
M4rt1nV
Coming soon to a school near you!
proileri
These were designed to be used in numbers against massed Soviet armour in Europe. You need to hit within 500 yards to destroy a tank.
mormacil
Then we learned shielding mobile armor to keep them at least in fighting condition for over a week was easy enough. Ended all those projects
The question is, can the crew survive the shockwave and overpressure from a nearby blast. Contamination is not a problem for modern tanks.
Isn't something like a MOAB way more effective for that and without the fallout? Besides these days we take tanks out long range.
MOAB isn't a tank killer and is difficult to deploy, but yep, more precision weapons and submunition rockets nowadays for that.
GadenKerensky
While this application is rather impractical, that kind of warhead on an air-portable missile would be terrifying indeed.
Curii
Actually it made a lot of sense.
Heavygunner96
That's why it exists.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIR-2_Genie
That's exactly it. Easily transportable, and though not nearly as destructive as larger nukes, far more tactical.
Foxhound621
https://j.gifs.com/RoXLYV.gif
maliciousGman
Username outchecks
TheAngryDodo
LeftHandPanda
Never forget
KAPTAINKAMIKAZEE
CoxAnbals
Remember the Alamo.
NickBlight
That is one fat boy right there
manulofdoom
This thing is the inspiration for the Fat Man, afaik.
ProfessorDumbass
Same style and everything. But given the size...you should be safe at 2 miles. But your first mistake will stop you making a second one
Zkaletus
here comes fat boi
ElbowdeepinElmo
Best I can do is 150 caps.
TheSpeakerOfTheHouse
Throw in 150 tin cans and you've got a deal.
Hawkhead
I see what you did there. Lol
NotSoArtzie
Keep your little man in your pants.
AzgarOgly
That's Davy Crockett. He's a grown ass man, not a boy. And he ain't that fat. Got much more slender since an H-day.
oldarchive
Ivy Mike will settle this
DrSharkbite
Ianmcmat
Rip camera man
FiveJews1Penny
You can see the camera drop a little at the end. I'm betting it's on a tripod and he ran for the hills with everyone else.
Gegelwiis
I like how there's obviously a person holding the camera and doesn't give a fuck
Howitgumstochewfivefeels
*ploop* *thunk* AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
dethntaxes
HomelessJesus
asiankanyewest
A-aron
idropbombs
Mortar rounds have an arming distance typically 60-100m's after launched. They are perfectly safe. Source: I'm a Marine.
youeatpiecesofshitforbreakfast
Fuck yea!
soejmud
So how do they arm? Timer after firing? Aka, will the one they just fired definitely be a dud now?
SkypeOfCthulhu
Simplest design: Weighted arming pins inside the grenade, being moved by the centrifugal force as it spins in flight.
Bingo, or for smooth bore the G Forces from being fired aligns the primer and firing pin.
And if I don't recall entirely wrong, old designs simply used a propeller. Enough air spins it, pins holding impact fuze are pulled out.
ComradeZoidberg
So this is where Fallout got the idea of the Fat Man.
TheManInTheWall
Then again, it isnt particularly original
AntiCircleJerker
Actually "Fat Man" and "Little Boy" were two nuclear bombs developed by the US (nothing to do with the silly post above).
Getting downvoted because other idiots want to spread ignorance? Rock on, lemmings.
ExecutorHideo
The name from the bombs, the concept of the Davy Crockett, and the functionality of the Canadian PIAT.
True, but also http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fat_Man_(Fallout_4)
Treblaine
Also, a little bit from this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PIAT very underrated, Canadian Officers rated it the best infantry weapon of WW2
drtyrttnhkr
I'm not sure why, every report I've ever seen about them was that they were unreliable and heavy compared to the Bazooka and Panzerschreck
The unreliability is exaggerated by how if you use it wrong it won't cycle well, a glock will consistently jam if you don't hold it right.
What's so valuable about PIAT for infantry is it can be used stealthily, from prone and in tight spaces without any big flash or smoke.
They were heavy, about 14kg, but not too heavy. Even belt-fed machine guns used by the US today weigh as much.
The heaviest Bazooka was 8kg, with most variants at 6, and by the end of the War the US was deploying Super Bazookas that could pierce 1/2
3 times the armor at 3 times the effective range.
Look, the BAR was lighter than the MG42... also 8kg to 14kg, that doesn't mean the BAR was a better machine gun, it's not ALL down to weight
A worthless stat compared to the need to fire the Bazooka standing in the open after a long & tedious priming process.
Prebez
Those were discontinued, I believe :)
ThePenisEnthusiast
Couldn't imagine why...
initialdave
Yeah, some kid poked his eye out with one.
PaulTomblin
Yeah, they didn’t want to give every 2LT the ability to start a nuclear war.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ibnHGWR9pU
cashew3655
Ya cause they couldn't shoot the nuke far enough so when you fired you would die
Leeloothedog
One life seems like a really small price to pay for that kind of delivery though
RayMar1
Not if that life belongs to you it sure doest
oh 100%. i would have no issue taking one for the team under the right circumstances.
You missing my point
You were supposed to dig a slit trench before firing.
BattloidKouji
I believe they allocated funds to restart the program in the last budget. or at least attempted to.
Wow, sorry I had to go to work. I would have posted a source sooner.
Just one to poke out the door of Air Force One to scare every country he visits...just a little bit more
GoodGuyJamie
Source?
I was mistaken, it was an advisory panel, not the budget, but they are leaning towards it. (1)
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/09/trump-reviews-mini-nuke-242513 (2)
GrampaJack
"I believe".
Chols
“They”
1015512
Metal gear solid 3 i think, good source for accurate cold war happpenings.
MioriYamaguchi
Think the army stopped handling nuclear arms after someone wanted to test one of those too. Someone found out and got pissed I think.
scrim4
They retired the Davy Crockett because someone realized that giving nukes to junior officers barely capable of using maps was a bad idea.
Andrewleedragon
Nope they tested it, and the army still handles nukes. Every armed force has a few nukes or more.
AlphaKill
Not every. Just the big ones.
kingkongmfg
Pretty sure the coast guard doesn't have nukes
Allthegunsintheworld
It's on the evil twin of boaty mcboat face
Facey mcface boat?
sunfried
The Davy Crockett device continued as a man-portable nuke. Plan was to drop Green Berets into Russia and have them bury them near targets 1/
Cornflakes91
I used to wear a green beret. But we never got to do cool stuff :(
runswithscissorsprobablyshouldntdothat
Nope. They were used to slow down Warsaw pact forces in case of an invasion to buy time for NATO to organize.
/2 after which time they would hike away to escape, but they were not expected to be able to make it.
MealeaYing
I fully expect them to make it. In fact I will keep dinner waiting.
minepagan
You're thinking of the W54 'Backpack Nuke,' the one pictuted is the M-28/29 Davy Crockett, which was used by units along the (1/2)
bulldogmurph
I giggled like an asshole at "pictuted"
fuck.
Iron Curtain to destroy Soviet trooop formations & (specifically) armored columns, in the event of an invasion. (2/2)
AbigailLongbottom
Yeah, it was pretty much a, “we’re gonna die anyway,” device.
IainG101
Tiny warhead; think the shoulder nukes from Starship Troopers (the film, not the book) rather than bomber-deployed WMDs
VinerialBlumpkin11
Do most people not realize that just because it says nuclear doesn't mean it has to be catastrophically huge.
ArandomDane
I remember a lesson from basic training. "So... Our ally have these small nukes meant to be tossed so we only get slightly radiated...."
caassapaba
I'm still in a dream, SNAKE EATUUUUUHHH! [whispers]*snake eater*
andrefezzik
Davy, Davy Crockett King of the Wild Frontier; Davy, Davy Crockett, tipped with a warhead nuclear.
floatationman
To be fair, it was a wee tiny nuclear device.
AustralopithecusBoisei
The point is target elimination, not shooter survival...
liana77
Did not know this was real.
DocZero
That's nothing. Look up the SLAM missile. The real world makes Fallout look kinda sane.
ImgurDemonym
Pretty sure those were on Starship Troopers
MalePatternBlackness
They needed them since it took 1000 rifle rounds to kill a single bug and they still got in one last kill after they were dead.
MalePatternBlackness
Same crap in Alien, Halo, Destiny and every sci-fi shooter ever made. Have to reload after every kill.
WhoPutWhatInTheWhereNow
The "Davey Crocket" was used in 1963 by colonel Volgin of GRU to destroy the Granin research facility. Know your history
Danivuk
Nuke shell for the cone rifle, citizen, courtesy of friend computer.
karateninjazombie
Where the blast range IS bigger than the launch distance such a great game!
Bart1952
The Davy Crockett fired a Sub-Kiloton warhead, the Yield was somewhere between 10-20 tons the minimum practical size for a fission warhead.
DougDeNasty
Go here: https://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/ on the right, pick spot(1), you can choose the Davy Crockett warhead (2) and then hit detonate.
EnderW1gg1n
Man, I just heard about his on Stuff You Should Know... Like 20 minutes ago. Neat!
BigAdam
The standard deployment of the Davey Crockett was to drive away from what you wanted to hit, fire, and fucking floor it.
Metronomicon
Would have made more sense if they just made a foxhole before shooting to hide in.
BigAdam
Fallout is the issue, not the blast.
Metronomicon
Fallout is a delayed effect subject to weather. It is also mitigated by protective gear.
MadLogTheGr8
Kill radius only 430m ... and you better run fast ;)
StevieTheAussie
Xeans
Remember the Alimo
HelloToe
ny
sowillo
Deserves some more upvotes
Crazywelderguy
Let's mount it on a jeep that can barely go 60 mph.
NatsukiIsMyWaifu
At least it's pointed backwards. They will be able to get away faster.
CatOnTheRoof
The shockwave will speed it well above that limit.
jebstat59365
From the 50s through the 70s, we needed Russia to believe we would use all manner of tactical nukes if they invaded Western Europe...
Sentinal32
https://imgur.com/ke7J0P8
irlborat
I've played enough MGS3 to know where this going
TheWombatStrikesAgain
I've played enough Fallout to know this will be awesome.
Squeleton
It leads to a brave war hero being detested by her own country while her pupil takes her place and gets all the glory? ;_;7
irlborat
*sad harry gregson-williams plays*
shonasof
All the way to Tselinoyarsk
iheartdonut
Remember the Alamo!
pre1989
Two odd facts ..The min safe range was beyond the max range so guess run..And the training heads were DU filled and they cause issues in HI
haaska
No it wasn't
pre1989
close though max range was 2.4 miles ..Lethal range was quarter mile ... So assuming even at 2.4 miles out with good wind you still get dose
SOAKLOGSINWOODS
Legal in 14 states.
FBKatB3TAdotcom
but is concealed carry legal?
jeandolly
Yes yes, this may seem a bit strange, but they do have an age requirement. It's not like a 15 year old can just buy a nuclear warhead lol.
Capnrory
if only the teachers at sandy hook had these
M4rt1nV
Coming soon to a school near you!
proileri
These were designed to be used in numbers against massed Soviet armour in Europe. You need to hit within 500 yards to destroy a tank.
mormacil
Then we learned shielding mobile armor to keep them at least in fighting condition for over a week was easy enough. Ended all those projects
proileri
The question is, can the crew survive the shockwave and overpressure from a nearby blast. Contamination is not a problem for modern tanks.
mormacil
Isn't something like a MOAB way more effective for that and without the fallout? Besides these days we take tanks out long range.
proileri
MOAB isn't a tank killer and is difficult to deploy, but yep, more precision weapons and submunition rockets nowadays for that.
GadenKerensky
While this application is rather impractical, that kind of warhead on an air-portable missile would be terrifying indeed.
Curii
Actually it made a lot of sense.
Heavygunner96
That's why it exists.
Heavygunner96
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIR-2_Genie
GadenKerensky
That's exactly it. Easily transportable, and though not nearly as destructive as larger nukes, far more tactical.
Foxhound621
https://j.gifs.com/RoXLYV.gif
maliciousGman
Username outchecks
TheAngryDodo
LeftHandPanda
Never forget
KAPTAINKAMIKAZEE
CoxAnbals
Remember the Alamo.
NickBlight
That is one fat boy right there
manulofdoom
This thing is the inspiration for the Fat Man, afaik.
ProfessorDumbass
Same style and everything. But given the size...you should be safe at 2 miles. But your first mistake will stop you making a second one
Zkaletus
here comes fat boi
ElbowdeepinElmo
Best I can do is 150 caps.
TheSpeakerOfTheHouse
Throw in 150 tin cans and you've got a deal.
Hawkhead
I see what you did there. Lol
NotSoArtzie
Keep your little man in your pants.
AzgarOgly
That's Davy Crockett. He's a grown ass man, not a boy. And he ain't that fat. Got much more slender since an H-day.
oldarchive
Ivy Mike will settle this
DrSharkbite
Ianmcmat
Rip camera man
FiveJews1Penny
You can see the camera drop a little at the end. I'm betting it's on a tripod and he ran for the hills with everyone else.
Gegelwiis
I like how there's obviously a person holding the camera and doesn't give a fuck
Howitgumstochewfivefeels
*ploop* *thunk* AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
dethntaxes
HomelessJesus
asiankanyewest
A-aron
idropbombs
Mortar rounds have an arming distance typically 60-100m's after launched. They are perfectly safe. Source: I'm a Marine.
youeatpiecesofshitforbreakfast
Fuck yea!
soejmud
So how do they arm? Timer after firing? Aka, will the one they just fired definitely be a dud now?
SkypeOfCthulhu
Simplest design: Weighted arming pins inside the grenade, being moved by the centrifugal force as it spins in flight.
idropbombs
Bingo, or for smooth bore the G Forces from being fired aligns the primer and firing pin.
SkypeOfCthulhu
And if I don't recall entirely wrong, old designs simply used a propeller. Enough air spins it, pins holding impact fuze are pulled out.
ComradeZoidberg
So this is where Fallout got the idea of the Fat Man.
TheManInTheWall
Then again, it isnt particularly original
AntiCircleJerker
Actually "Fat Man" and "Little Boy" were two nuclear bombs developed by the US (nothing to do with the silly post above).
AntiCircleJerker
Getting downvoted because other idiots want to spread ignorance? Rock on, lemmings.
ExecutorHideo
The name from the bombs, the concept of the Davy Crockett, and the functionality of the Canadian PIAT.
ComradeZoidberg
True, but also http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fat_Man_(Fallout_4)
Treblaine
Also, a little bit from this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PIAT very underrated, Canadian Officers rated it the best infantry weapon of WW2
drtyrttnhkr
I'm not sure why, every report I've ever seen about them was that they were unreliable and heavy compared to the Bazooka and Panzerschreck
Treblaine
The unreliability is exaggerated by how if you use it wrong it won't cycle well, a glock will consistently jam if you don't hold it right.
Treblaine
What's so valuable about PIAT for infantry is it can be used stealthily, from prone and in tight spaces without any big flash or smoke.
Treblaine
They were heavy, about 14kg, but not too heavy. Even belt-fed machine guns used by the US today weigh as much.
drtyrttnhkr
The heaviest Bazooka was 8kg, with most variants at 6, and by the end of the War the US was deploying Super Bazookas that could pierce 1/2
drtyrttnhkr
3 times the armor at 3 times the effective range.
Treblaine
Look, the BAR was lighter than the MG42... also 8kg to 14kg, that doesn't mean the BAR was a better machine gun, it's not ALL down to weight
Treblaine
A worthless stat compared to the need to fire the Bazooka standing in the open after a long & tedious priming process.
Prebez
Those were discontinued, I believe :)
ThePenisEnthusiast
Couldn't imagine why...
initialdave
Yeah, some kid poked his eye out with one.
PaulTomblin
Yeah, they didn’t want to give every 2LT the ability to start a nuclear war.
AzgarOgly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ibnHGWR9pU
cashew3655
Ya cause they couldn't shoot the nuke far enough so when you fired you would die
Leeloothedog
One life seems like a really small price to pay for that kind of delivery though
RayMar1
Not if that life belongs to you it sure doest
Leeloothedog
oh 100%. i would have no issue taking one for the team under the right circumstances.
RayMar1
You missing my point
PaulTomblin
You were supposed to dig a slit trench before firing.
BattloidKouji
I believe they allocated funds to restart the program in the last budget. or at least attempted to.
BattloidKouji
Wow, sorry I had to go to work. I would have posted a source sooner.
ProfessorDumbass
Just one to poke out the door of Air Force One to scare every country he visits...just a little bit more
GoodGuyJamie
Source?
BattloidKouji
I was mistaken, it was an advisory panel, not the budget, but they are leaning towards it. (1)
BattloidKouji
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/09/trump-reviews-mini-nuke-242513 (2)
GrampaJack
"I believe".
Chols
“They”
1015512
Metal gear solid 3 i think, good source for accurate cold war happpenings.
MioriYamaguchi
Think the army stopped handling nuclear arms after someone wanted to test one of those too. Someone found out and got pissed I think.
scrim4
They retired the Davy Crockett because someone realized that giving nukes to junior officers barely capable of using maps was a bad idea.
Andrewleedragon
Nope they tested it, and the army still handles nukes. Every armed force has a few nukes or more.
AlphaKill
Not every. Just the big ones.
kingkongmfg
Pretty sure the coast guard doesn't have nukes
Allthegunsintheworld
It's on the evil twin of boaty mcboat face
kingkongmfg
Facey mcface boat?
sunfried
The Davy Crockett device continued as a man-portable nuke. Plan was to drop Green Berets into Russia and have them bury them near targets 1/
Cornflakes91
I used to wear a green beret. But we never got to do cool stuff :(
runswithscissorsprobablyshouldntdothat
Nope. They were used to slow down Warsaw pact forces in case of an invasion to buy time for NATO to organize.
sunfried
/2 after which time they would hike away to escape, but they were not expected to be able to make it.
MealeaYing
I fully expect them to make it. In fact I will keep dinner waiting.
minepagan
You're thinking of the W54 'Backpack Nuke,' the one pictuted is the M-28/29 Davy Crockett, which was used by units along the (1/2)
bulldogmurph
I giggled like an asshole at "pictuted"
minepagan
fuck.
minepagan
Iron Curtain to destroy Soviet trooop formations & (specifically) armored columns, in the event of an invasion. (2/2)
AbigailLongbottom
Yeah, it was pretty much a, “we’re gonna die anyway,” device.