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(originally posted by @Menace2Propriety on 2023-08-17 19:36:06)
Aug 16, 2024 10:15 PM
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(originally posted by @Menace2Propriety on 2023-08-17 19:36:06)
AyatollahBahloni
That is s. o. p. for America, but it's FUBAR.
Hercules99
Send help.
Urgalicity
Somewhere there are insurance executives that need boat paddle therapy.
notakaren
But even the Nobel prize is not enough, he still died. The medical bill he paid is not enough to save him still!!!!
jgrowley31337
vnqx
Nobel prize winners also get cash: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/much-money-nobel-prize-winners-232955555.html
Themaxdu1
Take a look on this. https://youtu.be/CeDOQpfaUc8?si=por1ABheMd-AI2BF
deltaforcain
Shithole country
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OliverOtter
Being 96 years old and having severe dementia is what killed him. People who are 96 years old die, it's a normal thing. It's not a thing to spend limitlessly to put off for a short period of time. A year of statins and blood pressure medications is worth it to live to 97. A year of full-time skilled nursing care so you can see the halls of a nursing home and little else another year, remembering none of it, is not.
LittleChickadee
It's in the proud tradition of our Olympians doing the same!
RalphH
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leon_M._Lederman
MasterChristopher
Wtf value does someone else's Nobel Prize have to literally anyone other than who it was awarded to? :|
zerogiven
Lederman's wife Ellen said she was amazed anyone wanted to buy the actual physical prize medal. "We used to let little kids play with it and have their picture taken."
Jewdakris
What I find interesting is that some jackass will buy someone else's award either to say they have that guy's award or say it was theirs.
SlowerDwightYouIgnorantSlut
Fuck for profit insurance.
genghiskhanit
So a Nobel prize for advancing the entire specie scientific knowledge is worth just a two bedroom apartment? Wow
Bowtie8bit
Our scientists should be our real celebrities. Not fucking entertainers. Popularity is so awful we depend on the scientists and should lavish upon them with luxury.
objectreborn
But billions and billions of money directly to Israel. Can't take care of things at home. Gotta murder Brown folk elsewhere instead. Can someone wake me up
YippeeKayakOB
What kind of person wants to buy someone else's Nobel prize anyway? That's just weird, like Musk or Trump weird
booklist
sooooo uh, what did he do with the million dollars you also get with that medal?
shooglyboogly
Ffs, the state of this 😂 🤣
zerogiven
Lederman won the Nobel Prize in 1988, when the cash prize was considerably less than it is today, and the Physics prize that year was shared (as it often is) among three winners. He probably got about $100k in cash; I hear he and his wife used it to buy a log cabin that they eventually retired to. He died of dementia in 2018 at age 96, and his wife outlived him. Exactly how many years of nursing home care do you imagine that prize money would have bought them?
beckerthorne
It's what Saint Reagan would have wanted.
berryforchick
To be honest as a citizen of civilized country, this is really hard for me to comprehend how US allowed it to become normal to enslave younglings with crippling student debt and subject themselves to bankruptcy every time they sneeze
pr3viso
D. Oct 3, 2018
fabibihabibi
It's not exactly like that: he had money, and used the sell to buy a vacation cabin. But he had dementia (died in 2018) and the money would have come in handy.
https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/physicist-leon-ledermans-nobel-prize-goes-auction-block-n365671
discotheque42
Experimental physics doesn't pay the bills. Once you stop having ideas, the grant money runs out.
zerogiven
Lederman said it himself: "Physics isn't a religion. If it were, we'd have a much easier time raising money."
rubypilgrim
Having patents can help but agreed. The more of this that I see, the more convinced I am that we need a universal income paid for by those who have benefitted from our system. So yeh, some taxes on us regular folk, but past time for the billionaires to stop getting a free ride.
Ellis23
That doesn't seem fair. If any of your ideas were good enough to earn you a Nobel prize, you've had enough good ideas. You should be set even if you don't have any others. If Sir Mix-a-Lot gets a million a year for "baby got back," a Nobel idea should get some kind of residuals as well.
hungiepanda
I've seen a lot of folks on YouTube making videos about why they left academia. Academia is completely fucked and I'm glad I never went into it. It would have most certainly cost me my sanity (like literal psychotic loss of sanity)
Ellis23
I left academia before I ever really "joined." I was three years into a humanities PhD and I couldn't ignore how awful everything was, or that the highly unlikely "payoff" at the end didn't look all that great, either. Like, I could continue to work like a dog and earn below the poverty line until I earned the PhD, and then fight like a different dog for one of the very, very few academic positions available, and then work again like the first dog trying to earn tenure. For a point of comparison
Ellis23
...I made the lucrative decision to become a public high school teacher.
jalcantara88127001
To HELP pay... That means it didn't cover the entire bill...
vicvalour
Must have sprung for cable in his shared room,
NoGunsNoCats
Implies or suggests that ...
dobe0TieDancer
My cancer treatment is approaching $2 million. That $800 grand would barely put a dent in it. If I had a rare and highly prestigious award to sell.
cosonfused
holy shit...
QWTFODDBALL
That ain't nothing. Gene therapies are starting to hit the market and they are 1-3 million each. And they're supposed to permanently eliminate certain diseases but they're finding that the treatments are actually only effective for about 10 years so people end up having to do it multiple times.
QWTFODDBALL
Worse, gene therapy is generally only offered after conventional treatments have failed which means possibly years of high cost prescription drug treatments and possible surgery before they will let you try it.
rubypilgrim
Have you talked to your doc/hospital? Often they will slash debts that obviously cannot be repaid. There are also charities that through donations, buy medical debt in bulk and erase it. Here's one: https://unduemedicaldebt.org/medical-debt-resources/ It's bad enough to fight cancer, but to also have to fight medical debt - I hate this fucking system so much.
Wirefish
It’s really not that simple. Me: widow of cancer patient with rare orphan cancer.
cosonfused
orphan cancer?
NuclearMonk
Well it's not like he's a Medal of Honor winner...of course there's gonna be a copay.
vicvalour
vicvalour
Just saw this so I had to
WhatTheHellIsGoingOnBob
What a fucking shithead he is.
oakleaves
I heard there are better awards to get than the the MOH because you usually get hurt getting the MOH and the other award you can get just for being subjectively hot and donating a lot of money to the right scumbag politician.
oakleaves
Just to be clear… /s
LuLuPennyAndOdium44
Guys that died with MOH
truthader
That is one unlucky maid of honor.
CommentsThisTimeLastYear
i can't tell whats worse that he had to sell his nobel prize or that someone would buy a nobel prize from someone who was dying and keep it. like shit give that man his prize back if you have that much to spend on junk you dont need a nobel prize.
bekindtoanimals
Tru Dat
Sebastopol140
I think the "buying it" part would be completely aimed at helping the guy.
Hevach
No, there's a major collector market for Nobel medals. In this case the buyer chose to remain anonymous rather than return the medal, which is what the buyer did when James Watson sold his for medical bills.
Itslukus
Can't imagine anything lamer tbh... I'd talk the most shit if someone was showing me around their house and they had someone else's Nobel prize up on the wall. Even more so when I find out the back story of why he had to sell it off.
Hevach
Thankfully the vast majority of prizes are sold by family after the laureate dies, which I don't find nearly as distasteful - Francis Crick's probably meant little more to his grandchildren than it did to the guy who bought it, and there's no other way to fairly divide his estate when most of it's value was in a single item. Watson and Lederman are so far the only ones sold by laureates themselves while they're still alive.
mangoinparis
Shit I'd sell mine if I could get that much money for it. Not like you still aren't a nobel laureate.
GenshiV
A year later and this shit is still going. We need single payer healthcare & we need to get progressives in all 3 branches to do it.
MrWobblyHead
All other developed and some developing countries already have it.
Einstein9073
We could have had single-payer healthcare but your parents decided that Reagan was cool
vcgetdown
Obama also promised it then gave us a Republican health care plan that only is going to delay nationalized healthcare
Taalii
Oh get bent.
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Fedotia
Roger, I'll come by and break all of your windows to create jobs.
PastureofMuppets
No with everyone being covered MORE people would get healthcare including preventative, so jobs in the health admin fields would INCREASE. Jobs at the morgue and bankruptcy lawyers might decrease. Plus private healthcare would still exist
BDBottom
Destroy thousands of jobs denying claims & increasing paperwork? Yeaaaaah, put those people in the orphan-crushing machine _first_.
Narf9900
I have no problem with you being homeless if it means my mother didn't have to die because insurance denied her care
vcgetdown
We can't stop the orphan crusher because the people working it would lose their job!! You realize the government would have to hire new positions to handle it and would be looking for people with your expertise right?
Sticklebrickk
If something can be destroyed by the truth then it deserves to be destroyed by the truth.
thinkstopthink
Thaaaat's a bald faced lie. There is never a downside to ridding a society of its parasites and predators. Many of those people would be put back to work more efficiently into the single payer system. And, we wouldn't have the incompetent shitshow that we do now.
Kiares
Guess they will need to get another job in the machine 💁
ArgentXero
I think everyone would rather have Healthcare than a fake job.
drone6040
Completely agree. But not sure everyone else would. Only reason I took this job is so I could get better coverage.
Taalii
Piss off. Find new work. Quit justifying ghoulish extraction of wealth by a pointless middleman as ‘but jobs’. Go work manufacturing. Quit profiting off the suffering of others you utter scumbag.
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Taalii
Nope. There is no justification. You work for the orphan crusher machine and don’t get to try to ‘but it employs people!’
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LokiShade
What percentage of them make decisions like making my wife try two different damn-near useless migraine medications for FOUR FUCKING YEARS before approving coverage for the one her doctor prescribed FOUR FUCKING YEARS AGO? Fire those cocksuckers first and don't let them anywhere near healthcare again.
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LokiShade
Well, there you go. CEO's, the most useless but destructive member of any business.
TheHolyFatman
Shareholder primacy is the rot that festers in this country. The pursuit of priots for a select few....
TheHolyFatman
*profits. It's late. My fingers are dumb.
kingbudo101
he was diagnosed with dementia and he sold it to cover nursing home and medical costs for both him and his wife
ObiHaiv
That was very noble of him.
adickurig
Yeah
Sonorum
Doesn't cost anything in Sweden
bekindtoanimals
Tragic
tallyhoho
People don't realize how expensive full time care is, which is what you need with dementia. Many people will use their entire life savings for this or nursing home care
adiving
I don't quite think that is the case. I think practically everyone understands just fine but considers that just another example of that famous orphan crushing machine.
tallyhoho
I had no idea until my grandfather hired round the clock care for his last years. He could afford it but I think it was around 250k a year
FestusMA
That’s terrifying
tallyhoho
It is. The other option is for their kids to take them in but that's a terrible burden to take care of a parent like that
Merky600
Yup. With my father it was all cash out the door. He never looked at long term care insurance. Used up most savings just to slowly die.
trialrunner1520
Dealing with that now with my dad. 14k / month. This isn’t sustainable for my mother. I might try gofundme, but I have never done that and I’m uncomfortable.
Merky600
Jeeeez…
StubbDubya
I'm there now with my Dad. $15K+ / Month. Living' the dream in the USA.
ButterflyBuddha
My dad has dementia, and it's cheaper for my mom to move halfway across the country with him than to pay the monthly cost here for memory care. Sixty percent cheaper per month in OKC than SEA. My husband and I are driving him across the country in a week without my mom (she's staying behind to deal with the movers and will fly down and meet us). I'm scared to death that I won't be able to handle him on my own for 4 days in a car, but it is what it is.
trialrunner1520
What’s okc and sea?
StubbDubya
Sorry to hear that. We are same. Trying to find a happy place for him to be. Fortunately, he is still a fairly happy guy, and not too difficult, but just awake at all hours, really hard to get good sleep around him. Good luck to you!