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(originally posted by @ItsJarJarBinks on 2017-02-17 16:05:18)
Feb 16, 2018 8:00 PM
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(originally posted by @ItsJarJarBinks on 2017-02-17 16:05:18)
demon627
I know more Christian assholes than I do any of the others
viciousbastard
Well this seems reasonab- annnd out comes the fedora.
Marz0008
So don't be an asshole.
AManWhoWasntThere
Totally.
tooomanystevesgotbanned
If you "hate god" then you are not an atheist. Atheists are those who have accepted truth into their lives; there are no gods.
Sturmgeschutz
Careful with that edge.
Skulties1
Hmm. Nice post
eastbayrae
As a man I can confirm I do in fact worship Satan.
DominusNox
Just because I worship Satan doesn't mean I'm an asshole. I'm an asshole for other reasons
ShamanOfHigh
No reason you can't be in more than one catagory
Davrem
+1
TheSkyOpenwide
Not a fan of Bill.
RoninKinX
Bill Nye is actually sort of an ass..
theyar
Bill Nye is an asshole.
WithPride
Yeah, I can agree with this. Good post, OP.
SaturnineCult
I still don't get what ninjas have to do with muslims.
BW85
lol my first thought as well
FlatPlutoSociety
The six pillars of Islam are faith, prayer, charity, fasting, pilgrimage to Mecca, and achieving mastery of the katana and shuriken.
baconandplagues
... I mean, I'm male and a Satanist so....
Camelspotting
Sacrificed any goats lately?
baconandplagues
Not today no, though I did eat some curried goat. So I guess that counts.
Flyndaran
No True Scotsman
ragekritz
Actually they're both of that group, just asshole versions of the thing don't pretend that they don't represent part of that ideology
ShamanOfHigh
Or they have an extremist version of that ideology which isn't in line with any of its core ideals
GoodEveningThisIsWhatAButtDoesPBBPPBBTT
I don't know... Imgur doesn't seem any different than 9gag sometimes.
AimlessSavant
"I have seen through the lies of the Giraffe."
PEWPEWMcGETREKT
Imgur doesn't watermark things as OC from the site, 9gag, FunnyJunk, and others do.
mimomisu
I think 9gag has stopped quite a while ago
Felman
It's like how religious sects hate each other. The more similar, the more hate. Just to stand out.
Wormbo2
"My god is better than your god" ugh. True fact: nobody else actually fucking cares mate.
TongueTiedLabourerfromtheLandoftheLittlePeople
The comments section is generally different to the posts. Eg a sexist post gets upvoted but the comments are mostly feminist and upvoted
Un0riginalComment
You just made an enemy for life!
EverythingElseIsJustABot
Stealing
NotOfImport
I've heard imgur described as "retard reddit." Tbh I'm not sure that description is terribly far off the mark.
IjustChangedMyNameToProveAPoint
What's reddit to 4chan then?
NotOfImport
Thin skinned meme thieves.
troublecliff
It's just another internet community. Granted, Imgur is the internet's bro culture answer to tumblr's feminism oriented culture, IMO.
IjustChangedMyNameToProveAPoint
The good balances out the evil?
DanielFromDenmark
Kodaxmax
its a circle of pointless hatred, 9gag hates reddit, reddit hates us, we hate 9gag. we are all shit
donorkort
Reddit doesn't give a shit about imgur.
Kodaxmax
this is just an example based on my own experience. Depends which part of reddit i guess
asdfertjryjre
No TRUE Scotsman!
WildDaft
WAIT so all christians are kkk members, all muslims are part of ISIS, all feminists hate men?
theincrediblebullshittingman
That's not what the fallacy means. Point is the assholes are members of their respective ideologies. The post is cherry picking.
WildDaft
But they don't represent everyone in the ideology. Which is what the OP was trying to say
scoundr3l
Again, that's not what no true Scotsman means. You can't disown the outliers in your group because they are outliers.
516ox
It's really cute when people try to be edgy and use the Cross of Saint Peter as a form of anti-christian symbolism.
TangyStar
I learned about the Cross of Saint Peter from X Files
AnotherImgurian14
Different meanings my man. Still fun to tell edgelords that though.
ReplyingToTopCommentsIsHowIGetPeopleToReadMyComments
It's cute when Christians use the cross as a symbol of Jesus's sacrifice when it's really just a pagan adaptation of the cross ofthe zodiac.
hahadix
but man that St Peter sure was edgy for insisting on being crucified upside down because he wasnt worthy. Edgy as fuck in my book
ArtArchive
Symbols gain meaning based on what people generally accept them to mean.
IMakeArtAndStuff
Also the pentagram vs the inverted pentagram
Felman
In their defense, a lot of Christians don't recognize that as Peter's. They see opposite and assume it must be satanic.
TrueNorthernLights
True. The symbol for Venus somehow became a symbol of a goat, hence Satanism. I mean, huh?
ReplyingToTopCommentsIsHowIGetPeopleToReadMyComments
Yeah, anti-Christian always gotta mean Satanic for some ignorant reason...
Sh4dowWalker96
Just like people not knowing the *massive* difference between Bhuddist and Nazi Swastikas.
CommunCreator
Hating God doesn’t make one an atheist, but rather a Satanist. An atheist wouldn’t hate that which doesn’t exist.
HolyCringeLordBatman
Large swatches of Satanism literally is aesthetic.
LovecraftRaven
You're thinking of Laveyan Satanism, which took the name only to be adversarial and not due to any connection with the ->
LovecraftRaven
Judeo-Christian devil figure. It's an atheistic philosophy based around the idea that personal will and power is the only divinity.
HolyCringeLordBatman
And in reality that's the only "Satanism" practiced in any actual numbers
LovecraftRaven
Yep, but I find it amusing that it's literally Satanism in name only and has nothing to do with most people's perception of the title.
ForTheLoveOfGodLetMeSleep
You’d be surprised. But I also thought those who are satanists don’t hate God, but rather worship themselves instead of Satan?
HolyCringeLordBatman
Depends, the largest sect, Laveyan satanism are atheistic, don't' worship anything.
ForTheLoveOfGodLetMeSleep
Interesting, how two sects of the same “religion” believe two completely different things. I mean, Christianity’s sects have different
ForTheLoveOfGodLetMeSleep
Beliefs, but still worship the same thing, God.
HolyCringeLordBatman
are often the ones fighting ten commandments statues etc..
HolyCringeLordBatman
The word Satan, pronounced Suh Tan means the adversary. Sect was probably the wrong word for me to use
HolyCringeLordBatman
To be fair, "Satanism" in the "Hur durr worshipin the devil" doesn't really exist in any serous numbers.
HolyCringeLordBatman
But side-tracked, satanism in the present sense really just has to do with opposing fundamentalism. Which is why they
boognish115
Yes, the KKK are bad but so is a person in power such as our Vice President who pushes religious legislation when he can. Not black & white.
SarcasticBisexualDudeWithNoFilter
Not all Muslims are terrorists, but most terrorists are muslim
Individualsocksinthewashingmachine
An extremely small amount of Muslims are terrorists*
SarcasticBisexualDudeWithNoFilter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7TAAw3oQvg
Duxerto
Yea, I’m tired of those stupid Muslims shooting up American schools and churches on a regular basis.
dietderpsy
Terrorism requires a political agenda, you can't consider school shooters terrorists or the average criminal to be a terrorist.
Loser37
Well sure, if your definition of “terrorist” is “murderer/criminal who is Muslim”
DaringSteel
Actually, most acts of terrorism (at least in the US) are perpetrated by white Christians.
greetingsfromparadise
I hate those assholes with fists coming out of their chins
CoolerHeadsPrevail
The confusion results from these groups failing to denounce their assholes. If you don't denounce them, your group becomes them.
rocketturttle
The problem comes from the modern echo chamber - no one ever hears the opposition denouncing anymore
TehGrimReaper
The more extreme ones - like the KKK and Muslim terrorists - get denounced pretty regularly by their non-asshole counterparts.
Individualsocksinthewashingmachine
The problem comes when people assume they don't denounce them and then judge them based on preconceptions and prejudice.
DawnofAzazel
How can you hate god and be Atheist?
dietderpsy
I've know Atheists who have hated God, hated The Pope, hated The Church, hate doesn't have to be logical.
BW85
It would be more about hating the idea of God and people's reliance on him, not believing in God's existence.
LarryFine
Atheist assholes are those who hate and denigrate Christians, Jews, Muslims, etc. Secure atheists don't bother.
DawnofAzazel
Hating Christian, Jews, Muslims, etc isn't really the same as hating something you believe doesn't exist.
zachtidmore
I don't believe that Christians, Muslims, or Jews e,ist.
LarryFine
You cleverly omitted "denigrate". I don't really give a shit what atheists think about religion, but no need to denigrate believers.
DawnofAzazel
I cleverly omitted something irrelevant? My point was you can't really hate something you don't think exists, believers obviously exist.
LarryFine
I can't even tell what your point is or if you have one, so we are done.
Individualsocksinthewashingmachine
He's pointing out the example here where it says "keep calm and hate god". That couldn't possibly be by an atheist.
worldsokayestspeler
Whats wrong with being a satan worshipper? Thats awefully intolerant
Mikanojo
in simple terms, Satanism is specifically an anti-religion hedonistic ideology whose major contributors were charlatans in costumes.
Mikanojo
calling Satanism a religion is a lot like calling cosplayers living anime characters.. it just isn't so.
valen00
The satanists seem to be pretty nice people. Like "do not rape" as one of their commandments, it's a pretty good start.
TheCeilingIsLava
We have those rules, but our commandments are condensed.
Callistan
Most Satanists are atheists or agnostics who use Satanism as a way to satirize the Church's involvement in legislation (in the US, at least)
Dyslexicbirch
The rules of how to treat women in satanism are pretty good
nsjsnenrndns
Where does it say it's wrong to be a Satan worshipper?
worldsokayestspeler
Bottom left implies it.
altfiction
exactly, worship satan all you want. but you don't gotta hate god to do it
KiAdiMundi66
to be fair bill nye is a bit of an asshole
Magisterial
No Bill Nye is a fucking savage! A huge difference.
DangerMous
I can't fucking stand him. Him and his bowtie.
AnorocTastic
More than a bit I'd say.
kaldren
Its sad, i used to love his show as a kid, now he seems to use his celebrity to spout a bunch of bullshit :/
railgap
He's been a huge disappointment to me. So had NDGT
Mitchz95
https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/bill_nye.png
chip700r
Going into the Wayback machine. One of my highschool teachers said she met him at some teachercon and that he was also a dick.
shimmernshine
Look up his first divorce. He basically destroyed her.
TraitorousTrump3
A lot less than Black Science Guy
braaaiiiiinnnnsss
Aww... You a little upset because he said humans cause climate change?
dotnetbeast
Damn near Gervais level
nickelbackrocks
Only to dumb people
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GmorkHeraldOfTheNothing
Maybe he's just jaded because we grew up to be tide pod eating crybaby science deniers after he spent his life trying to educate us...
SlowerDwightYouIgnorantSlut
FartyMcDumpstein
BellsTheorem
That meaty bite of lettuce.
Squittles
What happened to the guy who we watched in school and taught about how stuff worked? Who hurt him? The Netflix special just made me sad.
Felman
How do we know that isn't the real Nye? I mean, we know what he's like because of social media. Before, it was just the show
Squittles
I'm not big on social media so I didn't have much of an idea before I turned it on. But If it is that's unfortunate, he's so bitter now.
cancerriddenlung
Rumor has it he was at a bar and instead of drinking the Manhattan he ordered he drank a full glass of gender fluid instead.
itsjustabeaver
Gender liquid****
PrfctDrk
Yes! I agree, he used to be just a scientist, now he actively goes after people for not believing like he does. Like calm down Bill
XenoCore
Money. They payed him off. He's an actor, he acts out whatever you want if you have the money.
XenoCore
Why am I being downvoted? You pay an actor and they act.. I don't understand what I said that could warrant being downvoted.
Orionsdick
Watch him on Hannity, that should answer your question
TimTheScifiGuy
I feel like it's humanity's solemn duty to not watch anything on Hannity.
LostHonour
Same. He's just gotten old and cranky and narrow minded. A scientist with a closed mind is a sad thing. He really was cranky though...
GasBandit
Pretty much most of the scientists over 50 have their minds snap shut like a bear trap. "Anything that came after I turned 35 is bad!"
AnorocTastic
He's an engineer not a scientist
RanchoCucamonga
Engineers can be scientists too, but being a career 'scientist' today probably requires a PhD, not a B.S.E. like Bill Nye.
ObliqueRay
So the "moderate" christians putting their gay kids in for conversion therapy are not assholes then?
ObliqueRay
You know, every time I criticize religion I get downvotes and very little response. What a bunch of butthurt little weasels those ppl are.
Individualsocksinthewashingmachine
because you're doing a Cathy Newman here
Decitron
They're assholes, but those sorts don't really have a particular mode of dress that's associate with those views.
ObliqueRay
Wait, where does their clothing come into this?
Decitron
The first couple of these (including the one for Christians) use clothing as shorthand for the most violent version of an ideology.
Sloppydrunkcatlady
Who claimed they weren't assholes? Those sorts of people are cunts and don't practice what their religion preaches of love and acceptance.
ObliqueRay
As much I despise those people they are at least biblically correct. You need only google the bible's stance on homosexuality. Feel the love
Sloppydrunkcatlady
No they are not. Yes the bible says homosexuality is a sin. However according to the bible, it is not man's place to judge your fellow man.
Sloppydrunkcatlady
2. It is their place to show them love and tolerance, treat thy neighbor as thyself. Feed the hungry, take care of the poor, the destitute,
Sloppydrunkcatlady
3. your fellow sinners. Forcing people to go through physical torture to "not be gay" is absolutely not in keeping with what the bible says.
ObliqueRay
Yeah, when the Bible says "they shall surely be put to death" I have to tell you, it doesn't sound a lot like live and let live.
Sloppydrunkcatlady
Like I said. The bible teaches that it's a sin. It also says that we are to treat everyone with love and acceptance because God is the only
Sloppydrunkcatlady
4. Also Romans 14:1-4, "As for the one who is weak in faith, welcome him, but not to quarrel over opinions."
Sloppydrunkcatlady
3. Why do you treat them with contempt? For we all stand before God's judgement seat." Again. Saying it's not our place to judge.
Sloppydrunkcatlady
2. thing that can judge sin, it's not man's place. Go read Romans 14:10-19. Starts off by saying, "Why do you judge your brother or sister?
GeekTherapyRadioPodcast
Except Nye takes every opportunity to inject religious sucker-punches into his new "science" show.
wetfart92
When it comes down to debating religion he absolutely sucks though. He had the easiest job with nutjob Ken Ham and still couldn't manage
RetConMan
NDT does it a lot in the new Cosmos, too. Seems pretty unnecessary
wetfart92
The show cosmos isn't written by NDT. He's just the dude who presents and narrates it.
BanesOnAPlane
"God isn't real but genders are on a spectrum." I miss the old Bill Nye
Crowlands
I don't mind that he said gender is on a spectrum so much as him claiming SEX is on a spectrum. XX. or XY. That's not a spectrum.
boffinofwhitfurrows
XXY, XXXY, XXX...
Crowlands
I've mentioned Kleinfelter syndrome below. it's 1 in 500-1000. It's a very rare mutation, and it wasn't what he was discussing.
Crowlands
It's possible to be more or less "male" or "female". Testosterone levels in the womb affects your psychology, for example. But you're 1/2
Crowlands
(Note: When I say "male" or "female" here, I mean gender, not a sex. Limit of the English language and 140 characters, sorry for confusion.)
Crowlands
going to be, genetically, XX or XY, outside of some extremely rare genetic mutations (EG: Kleinfelter syndrome, XXY, is 1 in 500-1000). 2/2
ChosenChaos
Yes, combos other than XX/XY are rare, but they do exist
Crowlands
Dear downvoters: Can we have a conversation? I'm curious as to what you disagree with on this matter. I enjoy discussion.
mrnighthawksi
Swtich Bill Nye with Carl Sagan please
rdh57451
No.
Vivificus
Put Neil Tyson on the asshole side...
Tredgy
Yeah we don't need a "Man of science" forwarding as scientific fact that or sex junk is so Oh Oh Oh
ReplyingToTopCommentsIsHowIGetPeopleToReadMyComments
Hooooooold the fuck up. Hating God does NOT make you an asshole. What the fuckity fuck dood! What if we hate God because HE'S the asshole?
Individualsocksinthewashingmachine
Well it wouldn't be atheism for starters.
ReplyingToTopCommentsIsHowIGetPeopleToReadMyComments
I'm sure they were just trying to find some sort of negative contrast to atheism and really couldn't think of anything..but w/e gets upvotes
Chpgmr
well what would you recommend?
ReplyingToTopCommentsIsHowIGetPeopleToReadMyComments
I recommend people stop posting ignorant shit on Imgur.
Individualsocksinthewashingmachine
All about them green arrows
ASlamDunk
Idk, they're BOTH kind of hypocritical when it comes to cult mentality and religion. There are better examples of atheists.
texabilly71
Richard Dawkins (evolutionary biologist) Daniel Dennett (cognitive scientist) Sam Harris (neuroscientist) Christopher Hitchens (journalist)
BishlamekGurpgork
And, you know, there were questions about which Rosie was the real Rosie the Riveter. Let's take her down. And I don't even know who that
BishlamekGurpgork
Christian dude is. And shouldn't the Muslim one be more terrorist-y?
ASlamDunk
Haha fair enouh. I guess I just don't see atheist and pop culture scientist as synonyms. Rosie the Riveter and Pew-kneeling, cross-wearing
ASlamDunk
praying folk just seem much more obvious to me, since those are very literal symbols of feminism and Christianity, respectively.
BishlamekGurpgork
No, there's a point to it, I just got tired of seeing people nominating 'the perfect candidate' for the atheist picture.
AsAnItalianItsDifficultTalkingOnTheWebCauseIcantUseMyHands
You swtiched the letters in the word switch
KhalEezee
Wooooooo
d1g1t4l3ntr0py
I once swapped the p’s, in the word swapped.
Magpiebones
According to reddit gossip Nye is apparently quite a prick in real life.
TheCeilingIsLava
He bought like 12 pages in Popular Science to rant about how Christians were ruining the world, and it was monumentally uninspiring.
SephiRothIRA
And an alleged coke fiend as well. I just made that up but it seems like it fits.
Bystandr
I think its subjective. I met someone who had a lengthy convo with him and thought he was really nice.
EveryonesCousin
Second - known a couple of people who worked with him and loved it. His show was just cringy as all fuck.
Magpiebones
Could be. It was askreddit about disappointing celeb meetings and he pretty much took the cake.
IconicM
And reddit is truly the source of record for everything...
Magpiebones
Thus I called it gossip.
snicklefritzmcgiggletits
Then why bring up this point as potentially credible at all if you are just going to throw it under the bus a moment later?
Magpiebones
I said it's gossip right from the get-go? Internet strangers talking with one another. No more credible than what your coworker tells you.
Magpiebones
As in, they don't come up with documentation regarding their stories either. So take it with grain of salt.
GregoryFire
I feel Bill Nye is a braggart, he gets into those twitter debates with other cunts like Neil DT.
Squidwardsnose
Cunts like Neil DT? what did he do to deserve cunt status??
DaringSteel
He talked about science in an age when science is so politicized that the President told the CDC to stop using the phrase "evidence-based".
dcs1326
Bill Nye is the real life Howard Wolowitz. He's a pretentious asshole of a mechanical engineer.
GozerTheGozerian
A braggart, you say?! Mmmm-well, my good man, perhaps a romping thumping bout of fisticuffs will set the ol' scallywag good and proper, eh?
atnair
one of the better comments I’ve seen on imgur
GregoryFire
I say old bean, t'was that a challenge? I shall see you on the fields at noon tomorrow, bring your second. And don't forget the whiskey.
mac821
But you've forgotten about your fighting trousers, dear sir! Worry not, I'll have Jeffrey fetch them for you, post haste.
BusFarts
I can't bear to wait to such a time to see a peculiar kerfuffle next evening!
maskedhobo
Except NDT at least has the title to argue even if he is an ass about it. Bill Nye got his science from writers on a TV show.
Mammot27
Bill Nye went to Cornell University and was a mechanical engineer. Eh even refers to himself as an engineer. Thats not really from writers.
thegreatcnut
I don't know about that...the man has a degree in mechanical engineering. You don't get that without a decent amount of science and math
barf1189
You actually have to have a fairly high IQ like me to understand Nye without feeling threatened.
dpidcoe
I think the sarcasm tags fell off your post and now people are downvoting it :(
barf1189
You actually have to have a fairly high IQ to understand sarcasm
Wolfmanwolf
You actually have a fairly high IQ to expect the Spanish Inquisition, but as we all know:
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BishlamekGurpgork
That's twice you've offended me, scoundrel.
ifandonlyif
Sagan was agnostic I believe.
ScottAukerman
Ur moms agnostic
sprinckletitties
and an atheist
BellsTheorem
One can be both atheist and agnostic. One is a position of belief, the other a position of knowledge.
irlborat
I think Nye is as well.
VigoTheCarpathian
I believe I have a cream for that.
PermenantlyBannedClubMember
Did... Did you whhhip it uo yourself?
Hybris51129
ordomalleus61337
Hah noice
TotalInternalReflection
saturnscape
"HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!"
MidLifeChrysler
Deal with it.
faptasticvoyage
Then Hitchens. Nye is an asshole now.
Palfrost
Really? How so?
murderousbudgie
Hitchens was always an asshole though.
irlborat
I was thinking Fry, since Hitchens was also an asshole
applemnki
Agnosticism is atheism.
Lucky246
The way I understand it is agnostic = don't care, atheist = there is no god
sprinckletitties
Nope. Agnostic is I don't know x, atheist is I don't believe god(s) exist.
applemnki
Atheism is simply a life without god. Agnostic- Firm I don’t know. Because I CANT know. Therefore. Agnostics are living lives without god.
applemnki
Atheism is simply a life with out God. Agnostic-A FIRM I don’t know. Because I CANT know. Not “I dont care”Agnostics live lives without God.
TrueNorthernLights
Nope
applemnki
Atheism is simply a life with out God. Agnostic-A FIRM I don’t know. Because I CANT know. Agnostics live lives without God.
TrueNorthernLights
Not exactly. Atheism is a spectrum from atheistic agnostic to spiritual agnostic, like myself.
forAGrandTotalOf
I don't know why people downvote you.
applemnki
Lol thanks :)
khora
Gnosticism and theism are two different, independent axis.
applemnki
Atheism is simply a life with out God. Agnostic-A FIRM I don’t know. Because I CANT know. Agnostics live lives without God.
scoundr3l
Not wrong, but "atheist" is an ancient word and "agnostic" is a neologism constructed specifically to modify the idea of atheism.
applemnki
Yep. True agnostics live lives “without God” Atheism. The rest is semantics.
theyar
It's the same thing. I know lots of snowflakes insist it isn't, but it really is.
BishlamekGurpgork
It's really not, though. An agnostic can believe in a higher power.
theyar
Not exactly.
BishlamekGurpgork
An agnostic believes that a higher truth is unknowable. Not that it doesn't exist.
forAGrandTotalOf
More like a subcategory.
theyar
If you want to be super picky maybe. But really not.
frogglesmash
1. Technically atheism addresses belief in gods, whereas agnosticism addresses knowledge of gods which
theyar
Knowledge and belief are kinda the same thing though.
frogglesmash
Though they are often used interchangeably, they are distinct, but 140 characters is not enough for me to properly explain it.
theyar
I'm certain I could explain why they are the same even more successfully.
TrueNorthernLights
Knowledge can usually be proven through tests. Belief is based on faith, which is something one "knows" but cannot be proven through science
theyar
I believe I'm on imgur right now. It's not exactly faith but I don't need to test it either.
frogglesmash
2. means most atheists could more accurately be described as agnostic atheists.
TrueNorthernLights
Yes. Agnosticism has a spectrum. I'm spiritual agnostic. I believe in a higher being, but no one alive can know him/her therefore no -
TrueNorthernLights
- religion is right or wrong.
ChosenChaos
Gnostic Atheists are usually the arsehole ones, too
frogglesmash
Love me some cognitive dissonance.
Bystandr
Change out 'knowledge' for 'Belief that no one (so far) can claim knowledge of God'. Agnostics believe nothing is known or can be known
frogglesmash
That's what I said, but less concise. Agnosticism addresses knowledge claims.
Bystandr
about the existence and nature of God, and that only that proven with material means can be considered.
TiniestFox
My argument against that is that nobody knows factually that God exists, therefore it's on stance on belief regardless. Religion claims to /
TiniestFox
know God exists, atheists claim the belief that there is no God, while agnosticism claims neither on the grounds that you can not know. /
ifandonlyif
Why are you an athiest if you don't feel theres enough information to take a stance?
Geistbar
Atheist means you don't believe; agnosticism means you don't know 100%. If you don't feel you know 100%, why would you believe?
frogglesmash
Atheism is the lack of belief in gods, the the belief that there are no gods.
OutoftheDarknessIntotheLight
He's been quoted stating he was at a convention in the 80s before his death. His wife also confirmed this.
SirRogers
I can confirm that he was at a convention in the 80s and that it was before his death.
Arbitrarynamehere
Agnostic doesn't mean what most people think it means. Technically everyone is agnostic since nothing can be proven or disproven.
YharnamsFinest
Yeah not quite. People think they know what God is like. Agnostics believe no one can know what God is like.
BishlamekGurpgork
They don't necessarily hold that there is a god to know, just that any such higher truth is unknowable.
BishlamekGurpgork
2) You may or may not have meant that, so it's a clarification, not a correction.
BishlamekGurpgork
Agnostic is the BELIEF that a truth (such as god) is unknowable. If you believe god exists or does not, you're not agnostic.
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Arbitrarynamehere
And atheism isn't "I believe there are no gods" it's "I don't believe in any gods" and the reasons for the latter vary.
OutoftheDarknessIntotheLight
I'm fully aware. Its still the most reasoned belief system, as atheism implies the same blind certainty as any religion, if not more.
Orzbek
Atheism is flat out "There are no god/s." There is no belief in there whatsoever. No proof = no existence. Point in Case: I tried saying 1/2