meanwhile doctors used fentanyl to knock me out for a colonoscopy... oddly enough i survived. weird... it's almost like fentanyl doesn't actually kill 700% of the people that use it.
Get fucked, trump I'm so happy the "bullet" didn't hit your skull, you deserve a much more attrotious means of being dead - sincerely, just about everybody
Welcome to the Republican Party - where the math is made up and the facts don't matter! Let's remind everyone about the millions of people who died during COVID, simply because admitting it was all happening "would make Donny look bad."
Imagine the hundreds of millions of cops whose lives were saved. They could have died just being in the vicinity of a single pill of illegal Mexican woke trans fentanyl.
When used correctly, fentanyl is a wonder drug that saves people a tremendous amount of pain during and after surgery. When doctors know that I am on my deathbed, if I am in great pain, I hope that they will prescribe fentanyl for me.
I think if you take all the fentanyl that was seized and carefully split it up so that you've got the minimum lethal dose, and administered it to people all at once, you could kill the 258 million people. Except that the lethal dose is probably listed as LD50, which means statistically half of the people would die, so they didn't even get that right. If instead all the seized fentanyl was taken in doses spread out over time, it is likely the death toll would be only in the hundreds.
The Right doesn't understand how numbers work, they only understand that educated people are impressed by them, so they throw numbers out DragonBall Z style in the hopes of wowing Leftists into submission. "What does the White House say about the lives saved by fentanyl seizures?" "They're over two hundred fifty eight million!!!1!one" *crushes MAGA hat*
"Next time on Magaballs Q, trump saves the universe by using all his power to swallow every fentanyl pill on the planet at once, to the envy of his VC, Vance Dicpickacouch".
The thing they're hiding behind all of this is that fentanyl seizures are DRAMATICALLY down under Trump. The DEA reports that the US was seizing roughly 10,000 kg of fentanyl a month up until December. Under Trump, that's fallen to 1,000 kg of fentanyl a month. Similarly, the border patrol's ability to stop migrant crossing dramatically fell. They were stopping tens of thousands of people a week but they've only stopped about 8,000 since Trump got elected. Redirecting the Feds to harass
Redhats will still proclaim this to be a victory because less drugs is better. Remember when increased volumes of border seizures under Biden was a bad thing apparently?
That's literally how the Trump Administration is presenting it and the media is breathlessly reporting it. "We're catching vastly less so there's less of it to catch, obviously, because Trump is so amazing that his mere presence stopped it!!!"
lawful immigrants, green card holders, and anti-Israeli protesters means that the Feds aren't stopping migrant crossings and aren't stopping fentanyl with both numbers down about 90% since Trump was elected.
In the past 100 days, Trump’s fascist and bigoted actions has saved the lives of ALL 8.062 BILLION people in the world. Did you people even say thank you?!
It's a well known fact that fentanyl pills are cluster munitions and will explode and fly into 11 or 12 people's mouths. That's how 22 million pills can kill 250 million people.
Worth reading - White house drug abuse during his last term: "In the first nine months of 2019, the medical unit—which is responsible for tending to the medical needs of the White House staff—made four separate orders of fentanyl, two orders of morphine and a further two of ketamine. In total, it received 34 packs of fentanyl over the period, records show."
Actually, just twice. They worked out they have been calculating global population wrong (apparently small rural villages where most humans live don't keep great records), they believe the population is probably around 11 billion right now
Study was published in Nature Communications, can't find a link. Obviously not exact, and there are issues with the way they use dam numbers, so rather than 11billion it's more accurately "up to 30% more than we thought", but countries like PNG have recently redone their census methods and realised their population was nearly double what they believed it to be
They believe it even while aware that their statements don't conform to reality. Fascists only engage with reality as a means of enforcing their will upon it. They're not interested in conveying information, they're stating what must be true to justify the actions they intend to take. Reality doesn't matter to fascists; there is a higher, grander Truth that exactly conforms to their expectations and reality must be forced to conform to the Truth.
Considering the only thing that stays consistent here is the facts, no, I really don't think they do. If they thought it was a fact he saved x amount of lives, they'd either be the same number or increase with the amount of oh so terrible horrible unnecessary drugs seized.
It barely matters - Nobody in the GOP 100% believes any of this. Even the deepest red, most profoundly moronic among them know it's all rooted in money and power.
You have to consider that Trump hires two types of people: Those who know it's all a scam and lie professionally for money, and people who are so happy to be on the big stage they'll never ask questions.
Pam Bondi was a Trump lawyer AND a lobbyist for foreign powers. She's 100% on the "Just sign my name right on the check" train.
I disagree. I think the majority of the sycophants know everything they are saying is a lie. Many of them are well-educated, and those that aren't have a long history of saying and doing whatever benefits them the most. MAGA voters are a different story, but the politicians, influencers, and oligarchs know damn well that it's all lies.
The more ludicrous the lie you are willing to tell for Trump the more you prove your loyalty to him. It's a dick sucking contest and only those that can keep eye contact while gagging gets noticed.
Yeah, well, who are you to say otherwise? Get back to me after you've gotten specialized medical training for a couple hundred hours at one of America's finest police academies!
Which is beyond stupid because hospitals use fentanyl for patients during surgeries (I received it during mine). Clearly they wouldn't if it was that dangerous
Look, everyone with autism got it because their mother walked past someone who used fentanyl while pregnant, the toxin caused the autism, and then they die (eventually) from autism, which was because of fentanyl, so cause of death is fentanyl. Which is extra funny because those same whack jobs were going nuts in 2020 with "doctors can just make up the cause of death, you can't believe them"
Cops love this myth because it plays into their "our job is so very dangerous that we have to preemptively shoot everything that moves" narrative. Accidentally touched a fentanyl pill with your bare fingers? Instant death. No one knows how people to take this stuff as a prescription painkiller survive the skin contact. They should be dead before the pill reaches their lips.
If some madman refines 100% pure fentanyl isn’t that the case though? This basically never happens, but my understanding is the pure stuff is concentrated malevolence.
Sorry you got so downvoted by this. I understand your confusion when the stigma is made worse by the media. Don’t let downvotes stop you from asking questions and learning.
Yes, if a thing that never happens were to happen, then the other thing that never happens could also happen. But since the thing that never happens never happens, the other thing that never happens also never happens.
Even then, no. They wouldn't be pills in the first place if absorption through skin contact was possible. You don't have to be a chemist to think about this logically.
samanthadlcruz
meanwhile doctors used fentanyl to knock me out for a colonoscopy... oddly enough i survived. weird... it's almost like fentanyl doesn't actually kill 700% of the people that use it.
shibbytothelibby
Bigly if true.
themayorMcCheese
Get fucked, trump
I'm so happy the "bullet" didn't hit your skull, you deserve a much more attrotious means of being dead
- sincerely, just about everybody
dryeraser
IgnisInvictus
They are just so stupid.
Boppster
I remember when politicians were intelligent. The stupidity of this administration is overwhelming. WTF happened??? :o(
StraightOnThroughTheChompers
Welcome to the Republican Party - where the math is made up and the facts don't matter! Let's remind everyone about the millions of people who died during COVID, simply because admitting it was all happening "would make Donny look bad."
JohnSmithterms
Yeah and how many pills did biden get? The same ? Double? Its so fucking dumb.
thesameasyours
Biden saved 10394624153839 trillion lives
PTK74
So next week trump have saved everyone on the planet. Soon multiple times. Have you even said thank you?
Rips4w
"aRe YoU rEaDy FoR tHiS mEdIa?!?!"
What a fucking dumbass, performative, dishonest, ass kissing piece of shit bitch.
TheBreadTurtle
why can't being stupid ever hurt the people being stupid instead of the rest of us?
UndulatingTerrain
Imagine the hundreds of millions of cops whose lives were saved. They could have died just being in the vicinity of a single pill of illegal Mexican woke trans fentanyl.
oukid
When used correctly, fentanyl is a wonder drug that saves people a tremendous amount of pain during and after surgery. When doctors know that I am on my deathbed, if I am in great pain, I hope that they will prescribe fentanyl for me.
simplefishy
Sounds like the MPAA 1 downloaded song = 1,000,000 missed sales
simplefishy
MPAA is the film one so 1 downloaded film - can’t remember the music side as that’s what I meant above
charliethewizard
She's starting to add in all the forced birth lives from the ones who didn't die.
Beldie
I think if you take all the fentanyl that was seized and carefully split it up so that you've got the minimum lethal dose, and administered it to people all at once, you could kill the 258 million people. Except that the lethal dose is probably listed as LD50, which means statistically half of the people would die, so they didn't even get that right. If instead all the seized fentanyl was taken in doses spread out over time, it is likely the death toll would be only in the hundreds.
TomBrokaw
That's exactly what it is. NBC has the "logic" as well as a very gentle suggestion that the administration should not exaggerate.
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/fentanyl-seizures-ag-bondi-credits-trump-saving-three-quarters-us-popu-rcna204091
SleepyHollowAppleTree
UsernameMayBeSubjectToChange
They're really diligently sharing that fentanyl, so that everyone can have some
reverendbonobo
It's been almost 24 hours. That number should be at half a billion by now.
PirateArrrgument
The Right doesn't understand how numbers work, they only understand that educated people are impressed by them, so they throw numbers out DragonBall Z style in the hopes of wowing Leftists into submission. "What does the White House say about the lives saved by fentanyl seizures?" "They're over two hundred fifty eight million!!!1!one" *crushes MAGA hat*
TheVampireDante
"Next time on Magaballs Q, trump saves the universe by using all his power to swallow every fentanyl pill on the planet at once, to the envy of his VC, Vance Dicpickacouch".
FlyingButtPliers
There's only 340 million people in US. We should all be saved by summer.
Well Shit... was I suppose to be taking enough fentanyl to kill me and sharing it with others?
SomeDetroitGuy
The thing they're hiding behind all of this is that fentanyl seizures are DRAMATICALLY down under Trump. The DEA reports that the US was seizing roughly 10,000 kg of fentanyl a month up until December. Under Trump, that's fallen to 1,000 kg of fentanyl a month. Similarly, the border patrol's ability to stop migrant crossing dramatically fell. They were stopping tens of thousands of people a week but they've only stopped about 8,000 since Trump got elected. Redirecting the Feds to harass
JimboTCB
Redhats will still proclaim this to be a victory because less drugs is better. Remember when increased volumes of border seizures under Biden was a bad thing apparently?
SomeDetroitGuy
That's literally how the Trump Administration is presenting it and the media is breathlessly reporting it. "We're catching vastly less so there's less of it to catch, obviously, because Trump is so amazing that his mere presence stopped it!!!"
SomeDetroitGuy
lawful immigrants, green card holders, and anti-Israeli protesters means that the Feds aren't stopping migrant crossings and aren't stopping fentanyl with both numbers down about 90% since Trump was elected.
amp99
How many actual (i.e. non-hypothetical) people have been killed due to gun violence since he took office?
RetiredLaserMan
I wish it was just one...
stayingalive4life
In the past 100 days, Trump’s fascist and bigoted actions has saved the lives of ALL 8.062 BILLION people in the world. Did you people even say thank you?!
Frenchgeek
Well, we can thank him with a complimentary royal haircut if he wants...
stayingalive4life
Everything above the neck must go?
Frenchgeek
He's all about removing unnecessary fluff from the government after all...
afambelafonte
It's a well known fact that fentanyl pills are cluster munitions and will explode and fly into 11 or 12 people's mouths. That's how 22 million pills can kill 250 million people.
RoutemasterFlash
It's just as well they took this action, or the entire population of the USA would have been dead within the year!
personwhoisaperson
After all, look at how many hundreds of millions of people died from fentanyl pills in the previous four month period when Biden was president smh.
personwhoisaperson
Oh my mistake I looked into it and it's about the same.
moreSaucePlease
Meanwhile… https://www.newsweek.com/white-house-medical-unit-order-fentanyl-raises-questions-dod-report-1864788
AncientArtefact
Worth reading - White house drug abuse during his last term: "In the first nine months of 2019, the medical unit—which is responsible for tending to the medical needs of the White House staff—made four separate orders of fentanyl, two orders of morphine and a further two of ketamine. In total, it received 34 packs of fentanyl over the period, records show."
ItWasMeIWasTheTurkeyAllAlong
In the past 100 days he has saved 604 million American lives from some little brown girl with cancer who he heroically deported just in time!
Sonicschilidogs
She was like the fentanyl Heisenberg
SkittishLittleToaster
Miraculous, given America's population of 350 million.
YuckFuMaga
Just when you thought maga couldn’t get any dumber…. They do things like that…. And comically lower the bar on stupidity.
Literally we could elect a kindergartener over Trump and have them seem incredibly smart in comparison.
Leithoa
*Child who is an American citizen with cancer.
sen69er
O…M….G…
michiyl
Are you ready for this, user?
tlotig
Becky! Look at that ass
AnAverageBoxEnthusiast
STOP GIVING HIM IDEAS!!!
Leithoa
It already happened. https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/ice-deports-3-u-s-citizen-children-held-incommunicado-prior-to-the-deportation
AnAverageBoxEnthusiast
FUCK....
smax410
In the ast hundred days, Trump has saved 25 BILLION lives. That’s right. He’s saved the entire world.
THRICE!
Forensickle
Actually, just twice. They worked out they have been calculating global population wrong (apparently small rural villages where most humans live don't keep great records), they believe the population is probably around 11 billion right now
Forensickle
Study was published in Nature Communications, can't find a link. Obviously not exact, and there are issues with the way they use dam numbers, so rather than 11billion it's more accurately "up to 30% more than we thought", but countries like PNG have recently redone their census methods and realised their population was nearly double what they believed it to be
cloudstrife046583000
So he basically stopped the apocalypse and fall of humanity? I WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT! just another thing to hate him for.
RadioFloyd
Are you ready for this, media?!
Targe0
Just today, he's saved the entire solar system from fentanyl.
Vungor
In the last minute, life was saved.
AeonQuasars
I've heard he saved the entire milky-way!
PerthAussieMike
Do these sycophants actually believe this stuff they spew out, themselves?
AlterSack
I sincerely hope so. If it wasn't, such statements would be even more pathetic than they already are.
AlwaysDownvotesDogs
That lying sack of shit knows that there are only 348 million people in the US, but she also knows that 77 million of those people LOVE being lied to.
LtRooney
They believe it even while aware that their statements don't conform to reality. Fascists only engage with reality as a means of enforcing their will upon it. They're not interested in conveying information, they're stating what must be true to justify the actions they intend to take. Reality doesn't matter to fascists; there is a higher, grander Truth that exactly conforms to their expectations and reality must be forced to conform to the Truth.
Thorketil
They double-think. 2 + 2 = 5
TheWeebleWobler
That look just screams, I dare you to call me out on it.
Wuz314159
They just read whatever the paper says. I love lamp.
reverendbonobo
No, but Trump does, and he loves having his ass kissed.
TatsuyaSuou
Considering the only thing that stays consistent here is the facts, no, I really don't think they do. If they thought it was a fact he saved x amount of lives, they'd either be the same number or increase with the amount of oh so terrible horrible unnecessary drugs seized.
Ircy
If you repeat a lie long enough people just accept it as the truth.
SavageDrums
The truth is irrelevant to them, they don't even consider the facts, they just say whatever is convenient.
crossingdynasty
It barely matters - Nobody in the GOP 100% believes any of this. Even the deepest red, most profoundly moronic among them know it's all rooted in money and power.
You have to consider that Trump hires two types of people: Those who know it's all a scam and lie professionally for money, and people who are so happy to be on the big stage they'll never ask questions.
Pam Bondi was a Trump lawyer AND a lobbyist for foreign powers. She's 100% on the "Just sign my name right on the check" train.
suiseiseki
Not all. Definitely most though.
loedout
I disagree. I think the majority of the sycophants know everything they are saying is a lie. Many of them are well-educated, and those that aren't have a long history of saying and doing whatever benefits them the most. MAGA voters are a different story, but the politicians, influencers, and oligarchs know damn well that it's all lies.
AnOceanOfStars
No. They are stupid, but they're the specific subset of stupid called evil.
RhinoNaut
The more ludicrous the lie you are willing to tell for Trump the more you prove your loyalty to him. It's a dick sucking contest and only those that can keep eye contact while gagging gets noticed.
mothmam
Rubio has no gag reflex
pfunk81
That is a damn good take.
stayingalive4life
I don’t think it’s limited to just believing it but rather believe it’s credible.
sofako41404
Only has to be credible to the target audiance.
SpartaWolf117
these are the people that generally think you can OD from being in the vicinity of fentanyl alone
GRaffted
He’s got an expert in his family when it comes to narcotics. That 100% product is cut down, mix it with fillers then 1 = 228.
afatality
the same morons whod call the cops because of a contact high...
stayingalive4life
A lot of times, those are the cops themselves that believe that.
afatality
so they lied their way out of the taser test then
FortifiedWhine
Remember when the bad liberal people were putting their drugs on car door handles to kill white americans?
sleepinggreenidea
Yeah, well, who are you to say otherwise? Get back to me after you've gotten specialized medical training for a couple hundred hours at one of America's finest police academies!
ChunkySmoothie
Which is beyond stupid because hospitals use fentanyl for patients during surgeries (I received it during mine). Clearly they wouldn't if it was that dangerous
chiefrunswithscissors
Paramedics give fentanyl because it's safer than morphine... If you give the correct dose.
myotheralt
Poison is in the dosage.
RoutemasterFlash
But, even regardless of that, how many people do they think are dying in the US from *any* drug or drug combination in a three-month period?
Forensickle
Look, everyone with autism got it because their mother walked past someone who used fentanyl while pregnant, the toxin caused the autism, and then they die (eventually) from autism, which was because of fentanyl, so cause of death is fentanyl. Which is extra funny because those same whack jobs were going nuts in 2020 with "doctors can just make up the cause of death, you can't believe them"
whereismymind86
Probably less than 66% of the us population, that’s for sure
Thorketil
Trumpillions
OnyxTurret
Betcha there's a way people could find out if they wanted to. But it's easier to just take her word for it.
ThM1ck
Even regardless of that, the number she gave was 2/3 of the entire American population, man, woman and child.
myotheralt
Every man, woman, person, camera, TV.....
RoutemasterFlash
Well that's exactly my point, it's just absurd on every level.
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
Cops love this myth because it plays into their "our job is so very dangerous that we have to preemptively shoot everything that moves" narrative. Accidentally touched a fentanyl pill with your bare fingers? Instant death. No one knows how people to take this stuff as a prescription painkiller survive the skin contact. They should be dead before the pill reaches their lips.
Cinammontoastcrunch
That was just the lie to cover the fact that lots of cops were stealing fentanyl and ODing on it
labyrinthconvention
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8810663/
"[J]ust...accidentally inhaling the substance…is one of the biggest dangers with fentanyl." - 2016, (DEA) released an advisory and training video
HAHAHAHA you aren't kidding
Cinammontoastcrunch
An executive for the san Jose police union was caught smuggling fentanyl, cops love the stuff
BreakerSwitch
And, as a reminder, police officer is a less lethal job than, say, pizza delivery driver.
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
Yep. Farmers, garbage collectors, and a hundred other professions all live more dangerously than police officers do.
Delathi
Not even in the top 10 most dangerous jobs. And if you remove auto accidents by cops, they don’t even crack the top 30.
Thornaxe
If some madman refines 100% pure fentanyl isn’t that the case though? This basically never happens, but my understanding is the pure stuff is concentrated malevolence.
alittleglassvial
Sorry you got so downvoted by this. I understand your confusion when the stigma is made worse by the media. Don’t let downvotes stop you from asking questions and learning.
labyrinthconvention
no.
https://health.ucdavis.edu/news/headlines/can-fentanyl-be-absorbed-through-your-skin/2022/10
reverendbonobo
Yes, if a thing that never happens were to happen, then the other thing that never happens could also happen. But since the thing that never happens never happens, the other thing that never happens also never happens.
BayazTheBenevolent
Even then, no. They wouldn't be pills in the first place if absorption through skin contact was possible. You don't have to be a chemist to think about this logically.
BonafideHomicide
A small dose can be lethal, but the whole skin contact thing is bullshit. It must be administered internally to have any effect.
myotheralt
Powder on your fingers could get ingested, but I don't think any cop has officially ODd on fent.